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jimmymac1025
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January 18
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Married father of two girls. Was a writer in a previous life. Drove a truck for 20 years. Trudging the road of happy destiny since 1987.

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NOVEMBER 2, 2009 11:52AM

A Day in Court (Updated)

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     It was an arraignment. The defendant officially enters a plea. I was there so she could see me, that's all. Let her know someone in this world cares where she is.
 
     She's brought in a few minutes before her case is called. She wears the orange jumper with Lake County Jail stenciled on the back. Her eyes are red. There's a wide leather belt around her hips. Her handcuffs are chained to the belt.
 
     She huddles with her attorney, a youngish public defender named Mike. She has to turn away from me to talk to PD Mike. I can't read his lips. Sometimes he shakes his head yes, other times no. Seems he does a lot of explaining to her. He does this from a half-squat position so she doesn't have to look up at him. I find this considerate. The other lawyers didn't do it when their defendants were brought in. Mike's okay, I think.
 
     The case number is called. She stands behind a line on the floor in front of the judge. Assistant State's Attorney to her right in a dark suit, PD Mike to her left in a lighter one, grey. I wonder if they do that on purpose. 
 
     I can't hear much. Charges are such and such, trial date set for so and so, pretrial a week or so sooner. You understand these charges? Yes, sir.
 
     Then Mike asks about bond. He and the ASA talk. The judge asks where she will go. Mike says she's homeless. Her parents put her out a year or so ago. She's been with her boyfriend, with his parents. But there were problems. She can't go there.
 
     The judge is puzzled. I don't think judges like to be puzzled after asking a question and getting an answer. He asks again, where will she go?
 
     Mike says her father is in the courtroom, but he hasn't had a chance to talk to me. The judge says get him up here and everyone looks at me. I spoke to PD Mike once. I told him why she doesn't live at home. I explained this to Rose on the phone. She thinks I'm trying to get her sent away for life and instructs Mike not to speak to me. Hence this awkward, unexpected moment.
 
     Well, the judge asks, can she go home with you? I feel my shoulders shake, then my knees. While they wait, I focus on breathing, deep in through the nose, then out, slowly. Okay. I won't fall down. I wonder how many blubbering parents the judge sees every day. I breathe again and catch a glimpse of Rose, her mouth moving without speaking.
 
     O please daddy.
 
     I close my eyes and start to shake. The judge is waiting for me but he's going to have to wait a minute longer. I close my eyes and breathe again. I decide speaking is not going to work. I open my eyes and look at the judge. I shake my head no.
 
     Everyone exhales. I close my eyes again. The judge slumps back in his chair. Mike asks to hold on until he can speak with me. Let's move everything up to Tuesday of next week. The judge appears exasperated. With me. He says he understands Rose was put out of the house. He asks why.
 
     He's going to make me talk. I breathe and it comes out.
 
     "Booze. Drugs. My home overrun with criminals. She steals from us even now when she visits. She crashed three cars. Her younger sister was traumatized growing up. My wife is a wreck. You can see what she does to me."
 
     The judge sighs. He agrees to continue until Tuesday.
 
*******
 
     Two months ago. The boyfriend's dad calls. She's gotta go. He got up to go to work. They were "partying" downstairs at 6 a.m. There was a row. The boyfriend shoved Mom, threw something through a window. I say okay, but it won't do any good unless you change the locks. With your son on the other side of the door. Otherwise, you and Mom go to work, Rose returns and we're all right back here tomorrow.
 
     He says he'll work something out. But he's very worried about her. I call next day. She's gone. I'll come down in a day or two to pick up her clothes and stuff. Okay. 
 
     Couple days later I go down and get stuff, talk to Mom, Dad, boyfriend. She'll come to me if she can't come here. Change the locks. Don't let her in. Let her call me. I'll come get her. On the way home, my cell buzzes. It's her. There are meds at Walgreens. Can you pick up and bring over? I pick up. Drive 20 minutes. Rose says a friend has allowed her to move in. She'll be fine. Just needs meds.
 
     I arrive. She's sitting in the yard on a hefty bag full of clothes. Whose house is this? I recognize the name. Mother of one of her high school pals. Things got a little messed up here, she says, I guess I can't stay. I call. (I never delete cell numbers. One never knows.) Mother of high school friend says get her to a hospital. However you have to do it.
 
     Rose says it's cool. She's got another place to stay. Few blocks away from boyfriend house. Coincidence? Hmmmmm. I drive north toward my house. Pull in circle of hospital emergency room. You are going in. Or you can sleep in the park. Fuck you I am. Asks to use my cell to call police to report the battery I am about to perpetrate upon her.
 
     I go in hospital and explain. They send a counselor out. Just let us check you out. If you're okay, we can't force you to stay. No. I call cops. Two squads show up. I explain. They talk to her. One comes over to me. Walks me away from car across hospital entrance. She smiles, thinking maybe they're going to give me what for. Cop says they can't force her in. Did she threaten you? Does she appear suicidal? I consider lying, but don't.
 
     This goes on for an hour. I wake up her doctor. (It's about 10 p.m.) Can he tell cops to force admittance? He talks to cops. Then tells me cops don't need him to sign off on it. They can do it. Cops say doc refused to sign off on it, they can't do it. These laws are designed to protect adults from being hospitalized against their will, a good thing. Except now. So here we are.
 
     Cops tell me to go home. They'll let me know what happens. They won't let her just walk the streets. She says all she wants is a ride to the train station. There's a friend in Skokie who will let her stay there. She has money. Everything's fine. I go home. Gotta work the next day. Fuck it.
 
*******
 
     Get a call at work from boyfriend's dad next morning. How did she get back down here? Long story. He wants me to know he dropped her off at my house on his way to work this morning. She won't get in there, I say. I changed the locks.
 
     She walks across town to my brother-in-law's house. No one home. But she knows where they hide a key. She lets herself in. Gramma shows up. Hi gramma! Just looking for cousin but she's not here. Oh, how nice to see you, dearie. I'm just dropping off casserole. Say hi to cousin for me.
 
     She now helps herself to anything of value in the house. Laptop. Cameras. X-Box. Playstation. Watches. Heirloom jewelry from Italy. Brother-in-law calls that night. Stuff is missing. Rose was here.
 
     I don't know where she is. Three days pass. I tell brother-in-law to file police report. I call cop and give him phone number of boyfriend's house in Skokie. Fill him in on her history. 
 
     We get a call from Evanston Hospital, a psychiatrist. There was a car accident. She seems okay physically, but said she needed meds and gave us your number. We fill him in. Mom goes to hospital. She's dazed, but uninjured from the crash. She flipped an SUV on the Edens Expressway. Crashed into concrete median, and flipped. Remarkably, no other cars were hit. (I tell a guy at work the next day and he says he saw it on the TV news. Highway was shut down while they pried her out.)
 
     Me and Mom go back next day. Docs say she is okay from the crash. Can probably release her soon. Release her? To where? I ask them to admit her to psyche unit, per her doctor. They'll call us back. I tell her she needs to authorize admission to psychiatric unit, just for a few days. Get stable, back on your meds. She turns into exorcist child. Tries to go outside for a cigarette. There are IV's and heart monitors attached. Two aides are called to hold her down while nurse pumps something strong into IV. In ten minutes she's asleep.
 
     Mom calls me next day. Hospital called. They're releasing her. Someone has to go pick her up. I call the cop. The car she crashed was stolen. He's picking her up. I go to cop shop later. He comes out and talks to me. I can't see her, but I deliver her meds. I'm good at that.
 
     They know she did it. Some of the stolen stuff is in her purse. But she's being cagey. Not admitting anything except stuff she knows they know. They won't let me see her. I write her a note. I'm not posting bond. I'm not hiring a lawyer. Your best bet is to tell these guys everything. They'll know if you lie. 
     
     *******
 
     She calls next day. It cuts off in a minute. A recording tells me I have to set up a pre-pay account to receive calls from the jail. Four dollars per call. They waive the six dollar processing fee if you put in fifty. What a deal! She calls back. I tell her I won't post bond of $5,000 cash. I won't hire a lawyer. She robbed a house and stole a car and crashed it and she's in jail and I don't know what's going to happen next.
 
     I drive 30 minutes to the jail in Waukegan. I don't know what I'm going to say. Doesn't matter. Boyfriend visited. She's allowed only one visitor a week. I can't see her. I call boyfriend. Next week's visit is mine. Okay. I return next week after refilling phone card with another $50. My phone is the only one she can call. She asks me to pay for boyfriend's phone. So she can talk to him. No.
 
     Next week I visit. I wonder what I'm going to say to her. Going in I say a quick prayer. I ask God to take my anger. There is a lot to learn about jails. Like phone cards. And lockers. And waiting. I enter a waiting room get in line to check in. Twenty or so people. Lockers on one wall. What are they for? I check in before 6:30. Girl tells me I'll be in the 7:15 group. Only so many can go at once. Okay. Another woman/guard comes and gets the first group.
 
     No hats, no jackets, no pens or sharp objects. No phones. If we find you bring any of these things in, you will be ejected and barred from further visits. Someone hurries to the lockers. Everyone else knows and has already stowed prohibited items. I have time. I walk to the lockers. I don't have a quarter. I go back to my car and find some change under the seat, then return and place stuff in locker.
 
     I wait. At 7:30 the first group comes out and the second group is called. I notice there is only one other white guy in the room. The rest are black and hispanic. Everyone is cordial.  No one seems terribly upset, besides me. I ponder the things we get used to.
 
     We are let into another holding area with small plastic chairs. The guard calls names. People get up and get on the elevator. I wait. I am called for the next group. The guard says something about where to go off the elevator and I miss it. Everyone exits but me and a few others going to another floor. I don't know what floor I'm going to. Five, she says. Women are on five. Get out and to your right. Just go in any room. 
 
     I enter a foyer of cinder block painted yellow. Everyone else is already in rooms, so I don't know if I open a steel door if someone will already be in there. Fuck it. I go in a room. No one there. I'm surprised and disoriented. I expected a common room with tables like I had seen on TV. I am reminded of porno booths from hazy decades ago in New Orleans. I chase the thought and try to figure out what happens next. There is a stool in the booth. About a foot off the ground. Too low for me. I figure I'll stand, but I can hardly shut the door behind me, so I sling my legs under a metal shelf and put my butt on the one-size-fits-all stool.
 
     The glass is an inch thick. I look for a phone or speaker, but there isn't one. There is metal grate at the bottom of the glass window. Small holes, and something like steel wool in the middle so nothing can pass through but voices. The door on the other side is open. Women peer in curiously from a common room on the other side. Rose enters and sees me shaking. Says if I cry she's leaving. I ask her to hold on a sec. Just give me a minute. She sits. I listen.
 
     "You know I don't belong here," she says. "I made a mistake. I'm sorry. You have to get me out."
 
     It goes on for a while. I say maybe some good will come of this. You aren't doing drugs. You are taking your meds. You are safer in here than you were last week.
 
    But you have to get me out. You are my father.
 
    I didn't put you in here, I say, and I can't get you out.
 
     Won't get me out.
 
     Won't, can't. Whatever you prefer. 
 
     She tells me to leave. I take the elevator down and walk past the plastic chairs. A guard comes out of a room. She's mad. Why am I here? When visitors leave they are supposed to wait until the guard comes for them in the elevator. Visits are 30 minutes. Mine took only 15. So much to learn about jails. I call boyfriend, tell him he can visit next week.
 
     *******
 
     So this is how I came to be standing in front of a judge last Thursday telling him she can't come to my house.
 
     Public Defender Mike pulls me into a conference room. I had asked him last time we spoke if the judge would sentence her to in-house jail rehab. After that maybe she would be stable enough to come home. That's not going to work. It's complicated, but no, forget it.
 
     Also he explains there really is no trial. She wrote out a confession after getting my note at the police station. The facts of the case are not in dispute. She is pleading guilty. They just have to decide what to do with her.  Without an opportunity to serve her probation, she will be sentenced to four years in prison. I tell him I'll call. I speak to wife, younger daughter. We agree we will let her come home. We agree it is going to suck. We talk about how maybe it can suck a little less.
 
     So I will go back tomorrow and tell the judge she can come here, and she will be home for the first time in 18 months. She and the tornadoes she creates.
 
     One foot in front of the other, I tell myself. And remember to breathe.
 
     UPDATE: It's now close to 6 p.m. Chicago time. We got home a couple of hours ago. Court was 9 a.m. and she was the first case. Nothing about dealing with the criminal justice system is fast. I had some concerns about what I could stipulate regarding her release, but I'm happy to report the judge anticipated my concerns and took care of them for me. No visitors. No contact with anyone from her previous life. She is sad she can't see her boyfriend. But aside from that, she told me, she is happy not to see her old cohorts. The judge insisted she attend AA meetings, and she will start tonight. That is the only reason she can leave the house, unless she is with me. Twenty-four-hour curfew.
 
     In explaining her choices, the judge pointed out that due to funding cutbacks, inmates rioted at a prison in Illinois last week because there was no toilet paper. 
 
     We have a few weeks to see what type of treatment program she can get into. She has been extremely gracious and pleasant and has told me several times how much she missed us and appreciates us giving her this chance. She was in for 30 days.
 
     How quickly we go from big picture to smaller, immediate concerns. She has no shoes. No coat. Apparently she signed up for food stamps a while back, so I told her I'd trade her buying groceries for clothes. She had a dish of fettucini alfredo we got at costco. Bet it tasted pretty good.
 
     I had turned her room into my office. So I will move my computer into my bedroom for the time being. I saved the hospital tray tables from when I was taking care of the old guys and I can just fit my mac and keyboard on it.  I have a wi fi connection, so it should be no problem. If you don't hear from me for a while, you will know it was a bigger deal than I thought!
 
     Don't know how much day-to-day stuff I'm going to post, probably not much. I'd like her to write her own story. But I had to mention how overwhelmed I am at the response to this post. Perhaps part of our problem is the expectations that if we play it straight, we get to live in the land of "Father Knows Best" and "Leave it to Beaver." There never was such a place. It was just an entertainment people enjoyed watching for a while.
 
     Real life is a struggle. For food, for health, for love, for grace. There's just one alternative and I'm not prepared to go down that road just yet. We breathe, we live another day. And here on OS we scribble about our struggle and are comforted when someone says, "Hey, me too," or "So sorry. Hang in there."
 
     Never alone. What a remarkable gift. Thank you. 
 
 
 
      
 
      
 
      
 
      
 
      

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Wow.
Tough, tough decision.
I hope it turns out okay.
Holy shit.

First - this is so well written - I was hanging on EVERY word.
Second - you have nerves of steel.
Third - You are only human - you poor bastard.

Good luck.
jim--this is heavy stuff. My thoughts are with you bro.
spotted_mind--Thank you. We hope for the best. I may not be as pessimistic as I sound in this piece. Some people do turn around.
The toughest of all decisions is knowing when you can't "do" anymore. After reading this, your visits to jail, the hospitals, and the court appearance (even this post) tell me you are still willing to cope, hoping the good in your daughter reemerges. I wish you all the best. ~R~
Duaneart--Nerves of steel? Is that why I cried in front of the judge? On second thought, maybe I wanted HER to understand our reluctance to take her back. And now she knows. Thanks you.

MJ--Thanks. I haven't written about her in a while, but this is one of the ways I breathe, and I need to breathe.
Chuck--Thank you. The judge sort of scolded me, saying he's all for tough love, but.... If she is to have a chance, that time is now. He said he will back me up on terms of probation: House arrest, except for probation related activities, rehab, meetings, ect. She's been in more than 30 days. Maybe her eyes are open. It's time to find out.
This is so spare and so full of anguish, as if you are emitting as much as you can through gritted teeth. This deserves more than an EP and cover.
I am so, so sorry for you. I have been a little bit in your shoes.....I remember my brother and I debating if we should tell the doctors my mom was suicidal just so we could have relief. We were so desperate. We did what you did. We told the truth.

This was perfectly written, but what little comfort that is. I am so sorry.
Will Someone...--I can never dismiss the headlines. Most of them are on the back pages, the three-graf stories about idiot crimes. Someone lit a house on fire after an argument, killed an ex-lovers' dog, or neighbors report kids in a house with no adults around. They are out "partying." These are the lost among us. It was real dumb luck no one was killed when the car flipped on an expressway. No one seems to know where she was going. She doesn't remember, or so she says. This is the central question of tough love. What if she's out and does it again and someone does die? Because I got her out?
Delia--Thank you so much for stopping by. I know you have been here and worse. I have shaded the truth for her before, enabling, because after all she is mentally ill, and people don't understand, do they? My mother's advice still stands. Tell the truth. It's easier to remember.
Oh Jimmy - these decisions are never easy. I once had a boyfriend with a daughter who was something like yours - and at first, I was so puzzled by his detachment that I wondered if I could continue to love him. Then, later, I understood and thought he was the bravest soul I knew. So are you.
Dolly--It can certainly appear cruel to someone who hasn't been there. It certainly appears that way to Rose. Thank you for a very keen observation.
I don't know if they do electronic monitoring there, but that would seem to be a necessary requirement of "house arrest". On the other hand, I know, here, it's pretty darn expensive; and if the family has the means to pay for it, the courts require them to do so.

Gee, maybe get a GPS chip implanted. That sounds facetious, I know, but I'm really kinda serious.

I'm so so sorry for what you're going through. My cousin just got out of fed prison (for the second time). He's in his 50's now. Everybody's holding their breath, waiting to see if it sticks, if he sticks. It was drugs, just and only drugs, the scourge of his existence.

You and your family are in my thoughts and prayers, Jim.
Jim,

My heart goes out to you. There is no greater emotional pull than the one with our children (at least for me). I pray this works out for you all. If Rose abuses this chance, maybe 4 yrs in prison is what's best.
Thanks for sharing this.
Connie--Hmmm. Hadn't thought about me being charged for the monitoring device. I'll have to ponder that. The criminal justice sytem is a racket of sorts, as I discovered setting up a phone account. Goodies can be delivered, shampoo, conditioner, cookies, all with exorbitant processing charges. I'm still trying to figure out how I am going to pay for my end of the hospital bill, $5,000. I kept her on my health insurance policy so she can get her meds, not crash cars. I hope your cousin does well.

grif--Best or otherwise, prison will be what happens. Thank you.
As I was reading this; I forgot I was reading. I was there.Wondering how you'd answer that judge---and then being awe struck by your courage.

We all grow up thinking our job is to solve problems. Then we hit the ones where there really is no "solution." There is just doing the best you can.

Which you are.
Jimmy. I am also a father and I do not know what I would do if I were in your shoes.

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CG--I was overwhelmed by my inability to breathe up there, so I decided to put that at the top of the story. Courage? If there were somewhere to run, I might consider it. But you are right. Some problems, we just deal with, manage, try to keep from getting worse.

willie--I imagine you would do the best you can, just like me. We get no guarantees our decisions will work, but we still have to make them.
Very well written. There are times when parenthood is terribly hard. Good luck. To you and your entire family.
Good God, I can't believe the nightmare that you are living through. I don't think I could be as patient as you, and I know just how much of a struggle dealing with a person bent on self-destruction can be. I will be thinking of you, and wishing you strength and compassion for what lies ahead. Good luck, my friend.
Jimmy,

I wish for you and yours Breath, Peace, and bits of joy in the process. You held me in every word, and between. Deep bows.
Oh my, Jimmy, what a situation; I hope your daughter can face her demons (slowly, one by one) and feel a bit better about herself and her life. That will make your attempts to help her more hopeful. Hold on there, and good luck.
Very well written, by the way.
Marcela
There are times when I think, "There are so many good people here on OS going through so much pain and heartache. I feel privileged to read their stories and share a part, however small, of their lives."

This is certainly one of those times. Wishing you peace.
Been there. Done that. How sad for both of us and for our children. Awful predicament. Still can't resolve it, can't accept it. Alternatively riddled with fear, resolve, doubt, sorrow, and knowing I am powerless in this situation. Saving comes only from within, so I've given up on thinking my 'save' means anything at all, and have come to understand (even if he doesn't yet), only he can save himself. The only thing I now know is true is that this was not my legacy to my son and not my example, my teaching, or my choice for his life. I am now focusing on living with knowing I can't save my child from himself. He is his own man and he has chosen to live in a world I can't enter. No matter how hard he may plead for me to follow. PM anytime.
Oh geeze Jimmy! I admire your ability to write this so clearly and I feel like shit about your family having to go through this. I will keep you all in my prayers.
Oh boy. Tough love is toughest. I have a friend who went through years of this kind of thing. I feel for you.

I do hope that you find comfort in the fact that you can write like you do and that you have readers who care. Words fail. I wish you all the best.
Duaneart said it all for me in his comment. You sir, have said the rest. My prayers to you and your family. This has heartbreak written all over it. O'Really Good.
Oh I am so sorry. You will have my prayers. I wish that I could offer more. This ef-ing disease! God bless.

Superb writing/reporting. I only wish for your sake that it could be fiction.
This is the line that floored me: "Everyone is cordial. No one seems terribly upset, besides me. I ponder the things we get used to."

I hug you.
Damn, Jimmy. I really don't know what to say because I've never had to deal with a situation that tough. I hope it all works out some how. People can and do change. I'm praying for a positive outcome for you and your entire family.
Sorry.
Hope it works out ...
Puny words, but heartfelt.
Please accept a group hug, as my wife will be home soon expecting dinner. Families with issues like these experience higher-than-normal divorce rates. My wife and I just celebrated our 23rd anniversary. We find it critical to make time for us, and personally I find looking out for her is a healthy pursuit for me. Plus I eat good.

Much love,

Jim
jimmy: I'm so sorry...the suffering incurred by Addiction knows no end or no boundaries does it? And I was so inspired with your strength to say no to the judge. And now, it sounds like she's coming back home. My heart is with you and the child you love so much and feel so powerless about. And, your writing is excellent...I was with you in the court room...talking to the boyfriend's father, talking to your daughter. And I'm praying that perhaps this time, your daughter has finally hit bottom.
Wow. Not only is it power, but it shows the love and forgiveness of a father. Even though she had stolen and lied to him before, he lets her back into his house hold. Awesome. Great job.
Jimmy, this was perfectly written. I'm sorry you are going through so much trauma and I hope it turns out for the best. You are brave; you know what you are facing and you step up to face it every time, in spite of the fact that it causes you so much anguish.
This is so well written and completely haunting. I can't imagine how many times you were lied to and stolen from before you got to this point. I just hope that this visit turns out better than you expect, even though you probably have no reason to think that it will. I feel for you.
jimmie, let me add to the chorus of people who pray Rose gets better. Your life on these OS pages is a wonder of sorrow, but told with so much heart, it makes me proud that being human is such a tough job.
Oh, man, I am soooo sorry. If you remember, I know a little of this life but not to the degree of difficulty you know it. I am sending all the love and strength and positivity I can spare. I pray for peace for you and your family. You deserve that and more.
If this is a test, I'd hate to see anyone take... Loving our children yet wrapping your arms around this situation is impossible... I wish you well... Excellent Writing... RRR
Very well-written indeed. A labor of love and pain.
Wow, I didn't really how she had deteriorated. What a strain this is on you and your family. My thoughts and prayers are with you. May you survive this latest chapter Rose's self destructive life.
Good Christ. When I saw the title, I thought you got a traffic ticket. This is the most devastating situation imaginable. I hope your family gets through it without too much more pain. Hopefully, the restrictions that the judge imposed will mitigate the disruption to your home. The story itself is so searing, you almost don't notice how perfectly it's written. You really brought me along with you. I saw the grim institutional walls, felt your dread, even sensed the tension as you and your wife and daughter discussed the possibility of having this child come home. If it's any comfort, you're one hell of a writer.
god damn this sucks!! i have been on the other end one million times, trying to find someone to save these kids from themselves. no answers; nothing is right and nothing is wrong.

only your heart will know. may you have 10 million blessings for not giving up and not giving in, all while being firm about your limits. rated.
I've been struggling to comment. Your post gives us such an up-close look at a journey none of us would ever want to take.
As a parent, I ache for your impossible decisions. As someone who never had a father around, I'm in awe at your capacity to support and love your daughter, as hard as it is. As a writer, I'm blown away by the execution of this marvelous piece.
Hope pancakes will help, some, on Sunday.
And Happy Anniversary to you and Mrs. Mac. Hope she, and you, enjoyed dinner.
I am stunned by the outpouring of kindness here. Please forgive me not answering individually, as I have to be up early for court tomorrow. I got to spend a couple of quiet hours with my wife over dinner, then on the couch flipping back and forth between the World Series, when she took naps, and whatever the heck she was watching, when I took naps. As I mentioned above, these situations tear apart too many families, and if I have any wisdom to share, it is that we would have joined that crowd without the able assistance of a therapist who helped us see that we were blaming each other for something that neither of us caused. Sometimes being right just ain't worth much. I'm pretty confident my wife and I will be together regardless of how this next chapter of our lives plays out.

Jim
Jim, this saga, continuing, is so hard to read, and much harder to write. My prayers are with you. There are no good answers and no answer for one person is likely the right answer for another. I do hope that having Rose come home works out. I know that you have grave doubts about that, as do I. But for now it is what you have to work with and I know you will make the best of it that you can. Whatever happens you need to know that you have done your best. When the judge jumps in and basically tells you what you have to do, without saying so in so many words, your hands are really tied.

My heart goes out to all of you.

Monte
You and your family are in my heart and thoughts and prayers, Jimmy. Hang in there. We're here, listening, as needed.
So many emotions after reading. Speechless. Lump in throat. Wanting to just be human enough to say I am sorry. I think you will need an island.
Oh dear, a parent's worst nightmare, Jimmymac! I have maternal angst just reading this and the feeling a parent knows so well, that heavy sinking, like a bad meal stuck in the middle of your gut kind of feeling. She will need some help beyond your boundaries and a ton of support and tough love, I suppose. Likely you have known this for a while. I wish you all the best of luck and endurance through this transition and the ones to come.
I'm so sorry. Such grief and sadness. So much that is asked of your family.

I've been in the courtroom many times when the parents in similar situations were asked, "Can s/he come home?" Never did a parent leap at the opportunity. Never.

For what it's worth, I've known many, many women in the prison system. Oftentimes, prison isn't really the worst thing for many women. Some women need the time and space of a prison term to really deal with and process what they've become. For lots of women, prison is the safest environment they've lived in in years. Some really start to thrive on the order and structure, the very rules that were so foreign to you, make them feel safe enough to really start to dig deep and change their patterns.

But, before all of that, please know, I am very sorry that this happened to you, your daughter, and your family.
oh my god, love!!!! i ahd no idea. the last i knew she was in your basement. how did i miss all of this?????? oh my lord, jimmy. shit, this is hideous and horrible. i'm so sorry. this is not the kind of bipolar that i have, obviously. i'm in an irritable mania and hate myself and everyone else, but i have no plan to steal anything or crash a car. my heart goes out to you.

this is stunningly written as everytihng you write is. i don't know how you do that matter of fact thing but you do it brilliantly. i love you, man. im' here for you. my heart aches that you haven't reached out to me. i am always here. i'm agoraphobic, where else would i be. i'm PMing you my email address and my phone number. i have free long distance and i'm up all night, PT. seriously, im' up all night. call me. let me help you through this horror show. i know some of this. i do. love love love and gratitude for the writing and prayers up the wazoo.
This is the first of your posts that I have read. Frankly, I hated it. BUT only because I can see me there in--when? soon. tomorrow? two weeks? My son is on this path and it causes tremendous pain and sorrow and anger and and and. I am having to take a harder and harder line with him. I hate it but I know it is the only way we can go right now. My best to you and your family...
Love and Light to you and your family's journey.

Alanon for 4 years now, in recovery myself. Totally hear/feel your pain. Blessings to you all. I hope this enough of a bottom for her to join us on the broad highway.
This was gut wrenching to read. I can't imagine how difficult it must be to live it.
Jimmy, I'm not reading any other comments here, I'm sure our great friends said all the right things. I just want to say, I admire you for taking her on again, and I wish I knew more about how to set limits. I know you will make clear that this is her last best chance to turn it all around, and that you love her and are rooting for her to do that -- but you're still capable of putting her out if she can't handle your love. Because she needs all of that. Keep us posted and reach out for what you need. I may be asking our help with some family stuff one of these days!
Jimmy...I don't know what to tell you except that my thoughts and prayers were with you. I can only imagine what you and your family are going through, and I hope for the best for all of you, including Rose. I had a very close family member come very close to where she is now, under similar circumstances, and she is turning her life around. There is hope. Be well.
I agree with the comment on how well this story is written and it brought tears to my eyes a couple times. My parents have had to deal with drugs and alcohol from dad to all four of us boys. We were able to beat this horrible disease but it was a long and insane road.
Great work
rated
I also agree with a post that asked, "Why in the hell is this not a front page story or a Featured Post or whatever these jerk-offs call it. This is a powerful and important piece of work. The idiot editors need to get their heads out of, well, I think my point has been made.
Just an amazing post.
rated again and again and again.
jimmymac,
Oh my god, my heart broke with every word you wrote. Every word I read brought me back to my daughters' and their trials and tribulations. Why do they make it so goddarn hard for all involved? Especially themselves?
Rated for your courage and kindness; and don't argue with me, jimmy, I know of which I speak!
I'm in nearly the same spot now. I sigh knowing every single detail you are recalling is from your firsthand knowledge and mine is too. We must remember to breathe, yes. Breathe and hang on...it's going to be a bumpy ride...but you already know, sadly.

R
I am sorry, Jim. The pain must be extraordinary. It takes great bravery to make this kind of stand. Breathing is good.
To Everyone--I don't have much time, but have added another group hug to the update at the end of the post. Thank you all.
Thanks for the update, and for the "group hug".
You're a good person.
:-)
Oh Jim. I can't believe what you and your family have been through and yet you endure. I cannot imagine how you must have felt in that courtroom, being asked to take your daughter back again, and having to say no. Is that a small bit of optimism I detect in your words, though? With Rose now home and on curfew and on her meds, maybe things will smooth out for all of you. I certainly will pray that they do. Best wishes, my friend.
Good for you Jim. I know it couldn't have been easy.
Thanks for sharing the update, it´s hopeful and desolating at the same time... I do wish the best for your Rose, you, and your family; and I hope she can take her rehab to the full with suitable professionals. She already has the love of her family.
Hang on and best of lucks,
Marcela
You confront this most complicated and painful of situations with incredible courage, dignity, and love. Your writing is searingly powerful and deeply eloquent. I have seen people descend into an abyss like your daughter's; I have seen them come back. I pray for her sake and the rest of your sakes that it happens with her. And soon. Bless you, your wife, and both of your daughters.
((Jimmy)) - this is gutwrenching. So very sorry for what you and your family are going through. I'm watching several extended family members coping with similar situations and there is no relief or support to be had anywhere. They are at their breaking point, as I can sense you feel you are also. Will keep you in my thoughts and prayers and hope the best for Rose.
Jimmy, your Rose could be my sister Tina. She did the same stuff, and put my mom through much of what your family has been going through--never knowing where she was, crashing cars, stealing, making money doing god-knows what so she could afford to use. She broke her parole on a drug possession violation by testing positive for drug use when she was 8 months pregnant. This cost her a year in a locked facility, and of course, the first year of time with her son. I am happy to say she is now 5 years sober, living on her own after several years with my mother, holding down a respectable job, and she and my nephew are both doing better than anyone ever expected. I am hoping fervently for you that the jail time will be the eye-opener that your Rose needed, like it was for my sister.
Jim: I just read the update and was very glad you wrote it. The earlier part of the post sounded like perfect hell. I've always had the feeling that for you, writing helps heal. I hope that's true. I can only add that -- and repeat myself -- your posts are often a balm for me. Even when they document painful struggles like these, I find myself cheered by your effort to bring your feelings and understandings into focus for the rest of us. After reading the update, I wanted to cheer for you and Rose. Her return is the best possible news.
Whoa. I can't even imagine and don't have adequate words here...

Hang in there.
Oh my heart just so goes out to your family! We've been through this as well. You don't mention your daughter's age, mine was 41 when she returned home, so she does have some maturity we were able to get to work in our favor. It does seem like 1 step forward and 2 back sometimes. I hold you in my thoughts and prayers for a healthy outcome.
Patie--Rose turned 21 while in custody. I was trying to work in a Johnny Cash reference, but guess I forgot about it.

(I turned 21 in prison
doin' life without parole,
no one could steer me right,
but Mama tried, Mama tried...)
as the mother of a mentally ill teen-aged daughter who regularly makes bad decisions all i can do is nod & say i "feel" this. i hope if the time ever comes when i need to, i can be as strong as you were in this situation. life is a struggle, but you struggle with grace. well done.
Jim, I know you must really be emotionally spent. I am hoping and praying things change for the better from this point on.
But buckle up, just in case, life is bumpy as you have already said.
Parents have the hardest jobs. Wishing you the all the best.
I am so so sorry. Have been there and my son now is on a wonderful road. I wish the same for you. What a hard, hard road to have to walk. You can only do what you can do. Sounds like you have made the right choices. My thoughts and prayers are with you.
Jimmy, sorry I'm coming to this so late. My heart goes out to you and your family. Thirty days on remand, that's a long time; I hope it's been long enough for Rose to conceive a better life for herself. While I'm glad she is coming home, I appreciate your lack of illusion about what it means. It seems the judge has laid down clear conditions on her release and I imagine you will have your own strict rules within the household. Hopefully, these will offer you all a structure that contains, psychologically as well as physically. Your beguilingly spare style drew me into the horror of that court day and the prison visit so that it was as if I were there with you, another automaton in an inhuman system. It's never easy being a parent but this will be a difficult time for all of you and I'll keep you all in my prayers.
My heart goes out to you and yours. I have no other words... Drugs are devastating to everyone involved. I just posted tonight about what happened to my son's friend who got involved with drugs..... reading this gives me an insight into what the parents have been dealing with for the last few years..... God, my heart hurts.
This is so heart wrenching. And so beautifully conveyed, although I suppose that is cold comfort. I really, really, really, really hope and pray that this works out for everyone. Please, Rose, take this last chance to be with us in the world.
I was your daughter to the tee at one very sad and lonely point in my life. It wasn't until I spent a year in prison that my life began to change for the better. I regret all the pain I put my family through. These things haunt me at times in my life and I'm stuck building a new life around a horrid past and reputation that people will not forget. Your doing a really good job. My heart goes out to you. I'm not sure wear your daughter stands now; but I pray that she's realized this is not the life she wants for herself and time goes by so fast. Never stop having faith that God will pull you and your family through. You and your familys character have been made stronger because of this.
By all these accounts, you are a very brave man.
Incredible piece Jimmy......
I can relate to this post. Feeling need to turn your back on a family member...
This, my friend, is highly rated.