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FEBRUARY 11, 2009 7:59PM

Anonymous Assholes on OS and Elsewhere - SPAM UPDATE

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Does the fact that your identity can be hidden make it okay to be an asshole, not just on OS, but anywhere? And what does this level of anger and aggression cost all of us? 


I’ve been pondering this for awhile, not just in relation to OS, but in relation to other avenues of my life. Do we have a moral responsibility to not direct our rage, ignorance, and anger at others? People talk about blowing off steam, getting it out of their system etc., but when it leaves us, where does “it” go? If you unload on some poor call centre operator, blow up at your spouse, or flame some poor blogger you don’t even know, haven’t you just shifted your crap on to them?  

As a former full blown road-rager, I think about this a lot when I am driving. Toronto’s highways are among the busiest in North America, and that means traffic jams, stress, and idiots with licenses. It used to be that I never made a car trip when I didn’t flip someone the bird, let out an endless string of expletives, or question someone’s competence to coexist with me on this planet. Of course, I did all this from inside the safety and anonymity of my car. It had no effect on them, and it let me blow off my steam. No harm, no foul, right? 

Before I reformed my ways, it seemed that every time I drove somewhere I was always amazed at how many complete assholes were on our roads. It was like they gave out licenses like bubble gum cards, and they were all on the road with ME, in front of ME, beside ME, blocking ME...ME…ME…ME. You may recognize your own driving style in this description. Or perhaps you’ve been on the receiving end of someone like ME, and you can appreciate how this interaction affects the poor sap on the receiving end. Imagine the domino effect of this.  

Poor stressed out, sleep deprived Mom manages to feed the kids, walk the dog and get out the door with just enough time to make it to work without being late. All things considered, she’s having an okay day, and then bang, the driver from hell comes up behind her with horns blaring and middle fingers waving from the safety and anonymity of the car, effectively blowing her OK mood out the window. So, she yells at him and then arrives at work and yells at someone else, who takes it out on someone else, who eventually goes home and beats his kids.  

Plausible?  

Entirely. 

The beginning of the end of my road rage days came partially thanks to a coworker. He was a real hard core road rage case. Listening to him rant and rave about other drivers every morning provided me with a horrifying look at myself.  

I continued evolving into a different kind of driver while driving through rush hour to get to my weekly meditation class. Over the years, my “driving” persona and my “meditation” persona were becoming more polarized to the point that I could no longer rationalize this behaviour. Thanks to the endless traffic, I had lots of time to observe and think about how my actions may be affecting others and my own state of mind. There finally came a point when I could no longer flip someone the bird one minute and then start chanting myself into a state of Zen when I arrived at my destination a few minutes later.  

Eventually, while travelling home from meditation and being all Zenned-out, I started to slow down and observe things more carefully. I stopped trying to be the fastest car on the road and driving in the left lane and I discovered something pretty fascinating. I found that life is very different in the centre lane. There are huge gaps in the otherwise dense traffic where you can hang out for miles, safely, with no other cars around you for hundreds of yards.  

More importantly, when I stopped being the aggressor, all the other aggressors disappeared instantly. In the calm of the centre lane exists mostly polite, courteous people who wave you through and brake a little to give you access to the exit ramp. It is a little piece of secret heaven that only some of us know about, but like a magic castle, it only appears when you slow down and are ready to see it. 

This is where the question of anonymity comes in. If, like the old me, you scream, swear, and gesture at other drivers on a regular basis, ask yourself this question: would you do the same if you were walking behind them in the mall, or if your name, address and phone number were prominently displayed on the outside of your car?  

It is the same question we can ask ourselves here on OS.  

We have a mix of bloggers; some choose full exposure by using their real name and photo, others choose to slightly disguise themselves behind false (ish) names and quirky avatars, and then there are the totally anonymous, some with unsettling avatars. In general, those who post as themselves (e.g., Monte Canfield, Lisa Kerns, Freaky Troll) all maintain a certain posture of decency and compassion. They read and craft careful, caring comments and tend to push the ensuing dialogue in a positive direction. Sure, they disagree with posts, but they assume the best of the person and act accordingly. These folks are the jewels of OS, and they will never need to be ashamed of anything they have written here.  

The people that use their real name and picture almost without question are the people who not only garner the most respect here on OS, but who also work on maintaining an online image that they would be proud to show their mother. Of course, because this is the Internet, I don’t really know whether Lisa Kern is really Joe the Plumber and her avatar is a picture she snagged off Classmates.com. Same with Monte Canfield, for all I know, he is a 20-year old who is presently incarcerated for drug trafficking. But a certain amount of gut instinct tells me they are who they say they are. And Freaky Troll, well, if she’s real enough for Joan, then she’s real enough for me. 

In recent days, there has been a lot of discussion about whether this site is a community (what the users feel) or just a place to publish content (what the powers that be say). The beauty of the Web 2.0 world is that it is the users have the final say on how a site will evolve. We have the real power to morph this site into whatever we want it to be simply by how we act and interact. The Internet is evolving, and along with it, the way we choose to use it.

Yesterday’s tribute to Karen Novak really shone a very positive light on the power of a site like this to create a supportive community of like-minded individuals. It certainly made me want to stick around for awhile and get to know a few more people. 

In addition to the Montes, the Lisas and the Freakys, there are many of us who choose some level of anonymity for a variety of reasons, but who also choose to maintain a level of mutual respect. Even with a masked identity, we maintain a civil dialogue and treat others with respect. But there are those, and we know who they are, who hide behind the cloak their avatar provides and spew hatred and anger in all directions. Like an angry driver, they do this without any thought to how it affects others. Until Monday, I had not been on the receiving end of one of these attacks, but I always had a sense of what I would do when faced with it. 

Monday was one of the most difficult days I have faced in ten years. On Sunday night, I posted something about what I was facing the next day (the euthanizing of my beloved cat Max), and then went to bed because I was simply too upset to give a fuck about OS or the feed or comments or anything else.  

When I awoke, I realized that there had been a late night conversation raging on my post that was driven mostly by one person who chose to judge me most harshly. Fair enough, I put it out there and that is his right to be an asshole with an opinion. But, I was so upset by his words, that I immediately deleted the entire post along with an earlier Max post, closed my computer, and went on with the shitty day I was facing.  

His was only one voice, he knew absolutely nothing about me, and by his comments, he was completely uninterested in finding out more about me. He did something similar on another bloggers post the week before. (Yes, 'that' week here on OS.) This blogger chose to engage him and as things degraded, I sent her a private message and advised her to stop engaging and delete his comments. She did, and it seemed to take all the drama and steam out of the situation.  

Some on OS who noticed my brief post on Sunday night left comments that were kind and caring and gave me the benefit of the doubt for the tough decision I had made. Some sent me private messages of condolences. For all of this I am very grateful, but it didn’t take away the sting of one person’s callous comments. 

As I went through the agony the day held for me, it was this one person’s words that hung around me like a cloud, and each time I recalled them, it was like another kick in the gut. When I was doubled over sobbing on the floor, I didn’t recall all the kind, supportive words, all I could recall was the cruelty of one person. And for the record, I was much harder on me than that jerk could ever be.

So like the recipients of my driving rage, I was the recipient of this persons rage and the domino effect, well, I’ll never know how it affected Max in his last hours or my husband (who is still with me), but I do know that several days later, it is still affecting me. And I also know, that I never want to do that to someone else. 

So back to my original question:  

Does the fact that your identity can be hidden make it okay to be an asshole, not just on OS, but anywhere? 

I say NO!!!

I don’t want to be responsible for creating more hurt and anger in this world. I know that there will always be ugly people who say ugly things, but do we have to respond to them. Without the oxygen of a response, won’t these creeps cease to exist? I believe so.

Another site I visit frequently, http://www.chowhound.com/, is heavily moderated. It is a gentle oasis of discussion on all things foody. Flamers have come to visit, but they are quickly disciplined, and they quickly disappear. I haven’t seen anything unpleasant on that site for years thanks to quick acting moderators. 

I’m not saying that OS should be moderated. But I am saying that WE, the users, can self moderate. If we do not engage the pointless negativity and simply delete offensive comments, then these jerks will go looking for a new sandbox to play in.

Why should all the great writers here be driven out in disgust to find new sites when we have the power to self-regulate the atmosphere here?

Why should I let the negativity spewed by a few jerks live on by allowing it to remain on one of my posts?

Why should any of us?

This is my blog site, these are my posts, and I don’t want to reflect hurtful things on an already crappy world, so if these little creeps come by, I’m going to simply delete their unsavory comments (unless they are actually making some valid point).  

I’m pretty new to blogging, but I always felt that I was going to blog by the credo:  

MY SANDBOX, MY RULES! 

I hope that others here will also see that as tempting as it is to man up and take on these creeps, it is so much easier to just click delete. And in doing so, you cut off their supply of oxygen, and in the end they will get frustrated and find a new sandbox, and we all win. 

I don’t know about you, but after yesterday’s tributes, I want to be here when Karen Novak comes back, so I can get to know her by her writing.    

 

For a good, although long, discussion on Web 2.0, I recommend Tim O’Reilly’s article, “What is Web 2.0” http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/a/oreilly/tim/news/2005/09/30/what-is-web-20.html?page=1. myspace views counter


For those of you who were spammed last night, my apologies.

The troll in question knows nothing about me, my cat or my situation, but felt that a short essay gave him the right to diagnose my cat and judge me.

Apparently we now have a fake veterinarian on OS as well.

For obvious reasons, I won't be opening this post up for comments, but I do appreciate all the personal messages of support many of you have sent.

 

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I missed the whole brouhaha. I have gone through a lot of cyber- bullying and cyber-stalking and no matter what I've told myself otherwise, it hurts. In fact, there is something almost MORE emotionally upsetting when you don't know or can't see the person doing it, illogical as that sounds. I am glad you are feeling better today. There is one rule and one rule only when dealing with internet assholes: don't feed the trolls!!!!
Thanks emma. I kept my head low throughout, but one thing seemed clear, and you said it "don't feed the trolls!!!" Except cake for Freaky. :)
i'm with you on this JK. in fact i'm so confident that the trolls aren't a problem that i've decided to finally emerge as my true self, down to my winsome avatar and real hometown. take back the blogosphere i say. even that old boor the carpenter nanatehay has long since moved on beyond the whole troll thing. old nana or new though, i see that i've got a couple of your posts to read. forgive me for taking so long to get by and read.
I also, fortunately, missed out on the negative comments recently. My first thought was, as you said, just delete them and move on.
Intelligent debate and sharing of opinions is, I think, very healthy but there is never, ever a reason to be hurtful to another human being.
Please, don't let thoughts of that person's comments linger!! Let yourself heal.
First and foremost, condolences on your cat. I lost my dog a few months back and it was agonizing. Secondly, I got over my road rage much the same way you did ironically, by watching someone else vent there's on others. It has stuck. I no longer rage but empathize that maybe they are just having a bad day.

I fell into the quagmire of the cretin jackasses of which yous speak and although I feel I was right to stick up for friends, I regret the way I went about it publicly on here. I should have just done the work behind the scenes that I have worked on.

I agree with you totally and I'm one who feels this is a community. I'm also one who if I see my neighbor getting beat on or berated, I come to their defense. Sometimes I wish I weren't this way, but I am.

I can totally relate to what you're saying on every level.

All the best
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For what it's worth JK you have every bit of MY respect .
Great job tackling this issue that has been plaguing this ,
my temple of respite , called OS . And the road rage analogy
is perfect . So easy to be a brave asshole when you are masked
in anonymity .
The negative is something I just assume not deal with ...If I
liked that I would have stayed married .
I come here for people like you .
Kudos ...and yes , cut off the oxygen supply .
: )
huh? Tension? I was at the local Volvo mechanic's shop.
We veterans shot Cupid arrows at Harley gals on mules.
huh?
Draw the Zen bow taught. Let loose.
Hamartia. Aim for a bulls-eye. Boom.
Hum bluegrass in celebration of K.N.?
I don't even know Karen Novak. Maybe
she tend the goldfish in a backyard pool?
I hope no cat do a scat in the sandbox. huh.
JK, I worked as an F.A. for UBS Finanical Services for a couple of years and absolutely hated it. I'd love to know some of your thoughts on the entire financial industry sometime.
well said, JK, I'm an old road rager myself, but my wife forced me to take a good look at what I was doing, now I practice non-competition on the road and it's like you say, driving can be so pleasant when you're not road racing

I'm one of those who saw no reason to hide myself when I started on OS, but I hope I'd be decent even if I wasn't posting under my own identity

There are lots of powerless, thwarted, unhappy people out there, and I guess the power to hurt makes them feel important, and the power to hide makes them feel smart
I'm sorry someone was cruel when you were facing that awful day. Funny (no, not at all funny) how one bit of nastiness can get to us. But there's one thing worse, and that would be to be one of those trolls...

Blessed be.
Try not to beat yourself up about what the troll posted and how it affected you. Last year I had somebody spew insults on a post of mine. I warned them not to do it... They did it again and I deleted them.

They didn't take it well and decided to make a blog post of their own, throwing insults to me and about me.. I almost quit OS because of it then people PM'd me telling me not to go, that I was a respected member and screw that other person.. made me feel good and I have been here ever since.

You write a great blog, welcome to the OS.
I don't post under my own name for similar reasons to Emma Peel - two people in the world I don't want to find me... but that doesn't give me the right to be an asshole. Ever.

I'm so sorry about your kitty... that totally TOTALLY sucks.... I hope you're feeling better JK.
Coming from someone who uses his real name and real photo, you either have the nads, or you don't. I was inspired to drop the fake name along time ago by Lonnie and Sandra. And I'm about 80% of the asshole I was before hand; though I've had my share of scuffles since going "public" way before OS went public. So there!
I'm so sorry that someone here made your difficult time worse, JK. There's no excuse for meanness, and some of the Bush-like pre-emptive attacks almost feels worse because they've been perpetrated by people who know better. I firmly agree that refusing to engage is the best plan, but it's a lesson some people have yet to learn.

Take good care of yourself. It'll get better.
I'm sorry about your cat, and that in sharing you got nuked emotionally. I feel the site is deteriorating and doesn't want to spend the time or money to moderate responsibly...I also felt the Soprano cuss fest on the cover today was an insult to all of us. I made a formal, pubic, polite, contrite and sincere apology to three members yesterday and they still decided, with the exception of one, to kick me around the romper room that has become OS. I delete comments with a happy smile, and as you have delete posts that are to painful to revisit when they have been targets, not a thoughtful post to consider. Stay cool. I will add you as a friend and never kick you around the school yard.
Well, golly, I think I was there and I don't remember whom you're talking about. I sure hope that doesn't mean I'm the culprit! I remember reading your post and advising you to give yourself the day off to deal with the pain. Anyway, I sure am sorry. It's kind of weird if I actually read some of this jerk's stuff and didn't "see" it. That's instructive in some way, isn't it? I guess we have to practice not seeing it, but of course that's very hard. I think the person you're talking about is stalking someone else right now and I do wonder when I encounter those comments if I'd be able to ignore them if they were directed at me. I suppose not. Just to be clear, was this some idiotic, sophomoric person deliberately trying to rile you or was it someone who philosophically disagreed with your post and was arguing vehemently?
Nan, your new avatar is freaking me out. I want to believe the carpenter exists…kind of like Jesus right? Or was he a fisherman? Damn, I never get that story right.

LHL, thanks, I have found some healing today, and that helps. Writing this helped as well. Thanks for stopping by.

Greg, so sorry about your dog. Gah! These little creatures have so much power over us. I saw you falling into the abyss, but I didn’t really know you well enough to extend a hand. Now that I’ve read a few more of your posts, I won’t hesitate to send you a Namaste when needed.
Ah, but the FA industry…not sure I’m ready to go there. Not sure if there will be a there to go to soon. ;)

Trig, Thanks for your supportive comments as usual. You seem to get so much out of this place, it is good to see.

Arthur, I think you are too esoteric for me. But whatever, thanks for your comments. Maybe someday you’ll publish a guide to your comments.

Roy, if that is in fact your real name…: ) You are another one of those who stand out in the community and make it stronger for your presence.

Myriad, yes, I guess I was really naïve to be so unprepared for the onslaught of this person’s cruelty. I just have that silly belief that everyone is basically good. Silly me. Thanks for your kind thoughts.
Well, this is me and that is my real face and my hair is a bit darker now that I have taken to coloring it myself.

I am so sorry that you had the experience of insensitivity and cruelty that you experienced. One of the things that I decided a long time ago was to use my own name. But I can imagine why some might not, and I see that Emma has shared one of the reasons why.

I had someone be incredibly insensitive on my blog recently when I shared something that I felt a little sensitive about. I deleted the post too, and I wrote to the troublesome writer and asked that he stay off of my blog and I would stay off of his. It seems to have worked. But, this was one of those people who I don't think mean to be cruel so much as are graceless and inadvertently rude because they don't have the social skills to turn a phrase in a less than hurtful way.
JK, Sorry you had to go this crap. I support you all the way.
I like how you have said point. MY SAND MY RULES!
I am like Trig I am ignoring the negative. I stayed for the good people here on OS, like and many more.
But you have respect and my support.
Take care Sweetie
I missed the whole thing too. But I am so disturbed to hear that anyone would rag on you when you were making that very difficult decision to let your cat go. I've made that same decision several times, and I know most people do not come to that decision lightly. I hope you are comfortable knowing you made the decision out of love. On OS, I hope you're right, I hope we can moderate ourselves and make this the creative community we all (well, most of us) want it to be. But I do disagree with one thing you said -- I DON"T THINK IT'S A CRAPPY WORLD. It does have some crap in it, but it also has compassion and beauty. I'm sorry for your loss.
Although I missed your original post about your cat, I feel your pain. That decision was one I had to make three years ago and I still haven't recovered fully. Whenever I see a dog that resembles mine, I feel a bit nostalgia.

as it relates to the assholes, they've been that way their entire life and there is nothing we can do about it. I say screw them, they aren't worth the air they breath.
I didn't see this. I'm so sorry it happened on your blog.

I'm pretty much like I am in real life, actually, although I'm a bit slower to start a conversation at the onset. I have some fairly sharp conversations here. Sometimes, I'm sorry later. This compels an apology. Sometimes, I'm not. Then, I don't apologize.

Sometimes, I make mistakes. I think that's true for all of us, real identities or not.

I can't give my real name until I have tenure. That's all there is to it.

As for your cat, I am so, so sorry! How terrible. I believe I said something before, but the loss of a family member is so difficult. You have my complete sympathy.
Ric, Thank you for your comments. I beat myself up all the time, so I really don’t need help from any buttheads out on the web. It was more about timing.

SC, I’m glad you are back on the feed. I love your stuff because I can connect to it, and you are always respectful of others. Thanks also for the good thoughts.

Blake, I always admire those who post under their own name. Nads are good, but not all of us have them.

High Lonesome, thank you for you kind thoughts. The bad is really minimal compared to all the “good” around here.

Snap, don’t think I didn’t hesitate to post this for the same reasons you are mentioning. I don’t mind the risk of the jerks showing up, but some days you just aren’t prepared for the crap. Thanks for friending me, I’ll do the same.

Lainey, I remember your comments, and no, you weren’t the one. I didn’t even get a chance to respond to everyone because I was in such a hurry to erase the whole thing. I appreciated what you said on Sunday night, and I appreciate it now. Thanks.
Esoteric? okay. I read to three local eccentrics.
1. She frowns
2. He sneezed
3. All confused
Mjay…thanks for reading and rating.

Susan, I always appreciate the people who use their real identities. I’m a big girl, and I can handle the heat, but that was just a shitty day and a shitty way to start it. I think I remember some of the exchange you referred to. I think you handled it well. Thanks.

Fireeyes, thanks for your support oh you with the brass ovaries! I want you and your bat in my court any day.

Faith, …I have to agree with you…I DON"T THINK IT'S A CRAPPY WORLD either. I think that was reflective of what I’m going through today. I’m usually very positive. I also was trying to make a point that adding to the current crap does no one any good. Thanks.

Olga, sorry about your pet. The hurt does tend to hang around for awhile, especially when you have to be the one to make the decision. I’m with you on the ain’t worth the breath!!

Odetteroulette, thanks. I’m not trying to dissuade constructive criticism or even all out disagreement, but I’m really against useless crap posted for no reason other than to get a reaction. The ability to admit when we are wrong and apologize is an important part of keeping the community vibrant.
Re: the financial industry, even though leaving a very good paying job to become a low paid F.A. at UBS (to start) was what I thought to be a great decision (since I scored so high on all the tests) and finishing in the top of my class in Weehawken, it seemed to be a perfect fit. But I loathed it. I worked with 12 sociopaths in that job. 11 men and one woman who didn't care if their clients lived or died. I lived and died by every loss. Had I been there during this economic meltdown, I don't believe I would have had people as aggressively invested that they would lose their behinds anyway, but that is why I left. UBS demands unbelievable amounts of assets to even take on a client (which meant I couldn't really effectively manage my own family's money) and most of them, even in the bear market wanted to be aggressive. Well, I believed in safe, asset allocation models and I was in the minority. So I am so thankful each day I left. I regret leaving a high paying job where I worked no more hours than at UBS, but traveled more. It was a learning experience. I know FIRST HAND why the economy has melted down. Merrill Lynch will have a butt load of law suits against them coming for their mortgage brokering. Mark my word and I bet you know about it. Thank God UBS didn't allow that.

Anyway, enough said, I can see you know the industry OH so well..
Peace
I was thinking a similar thing the other day, JK. It seems like the people who are the most vicious are those that hide behind screen names and fake avatars. I am the person you see, for good or bad. Even though I have chosen to use my real name, I can understand why others would not want to do this (and after last week, I was questioning my choice!) Still, I hope that all of us, whether using a screen name or a real name, would attempt to treat everyone as if we were seeing them face to face in real life while using our real names. As you've experienced with your unfortunate experience the other night, words can wound deeply and are impossible to take back. We would all do well to choose ours carefully.

Thanks for this excellent reminder.
Agree with your post, JK. rated.
First up: I want to say I am sorry about the cat and the whole entire mess. I do love this site and have only been reading a few posts of the folks I always read anyway.
I have to hide myself from some who want cause me grief.
I just totally ignore anyone I dont like.
"Blake, I always admire those who post under their own name. Nads are good, but not all of us have them. "

I was afraid that comment might get taken the wrong way. It was aimed at the "folks" who make the biggest noise around here, yet hide behind masks. And each one of them claims to have nads one way or the other. Either through tough guy stances, or extreme, boastful self-importance.
Evening JK,
I missed your post with the rude commenter; however, I saw enough this past week that was downright rude and ridiculous. Humor and sarcasm okay, but just meanness for the point of being mean is nothing but pure sadism. And, it sure did hook some of the regulars here too, and that was as bad as the anonymous posters. Life is way too short and way too valuable to engage these morons. I agree with you – let’s all just delete and ignore. The occasional persistent troll can be dealt with privately with the eds. I trust that you are doing okay tonight. Peace.
Greg, I did my degree in Finance, but never worked directly in it for many of the reasons you mention here. Soulless greed. GAH! I spend my time with the technology geeks, and they are much easier to take. Easier on my liver for sure. But I ride the elevator with the 20-somethings in their $2K suits….and I laugh and laugh and laugh. But not to their face. Money means nothing if you are miserable.

Lisa, so glad to hear you are really you. But I didn’t doubt it for a minute. You really are one of the best things about this place. We should call you the Duchess. Always kind and funny without ever being mean. I’m happy to have you drop into my sandbox any day. : )
JK, I can't believe it. I was so concerned about the assholes, I forgot to give you condolences for your cat. That kind of thing never gets any easier, and I've done it 4 times now. Hugs.
I very much understand. I posted a very sensitive post about a situation at home and the NASTIEST comment, that came from a total stranger no less felt literally, like a kick to the face.

I'm too much of a softy, and it sounds like you are too....but I want to make something clear..

You are not, really, "too" anything. You are right and understandably upset and hurt, and while many will tell you to toughen up..thats hard.

So...fuck the fuckers...delete at will, don't feed the trolls, and take good care of yourself, however you see fit.
I saw what the jerk wrote and, at the time, thought it was incredibly insensitive. I'm so sorry that all the supportive comments were negated by the comments of one very sadistic person.
Janie ...forgot to say sorry about your poor cat .
A while back we had a miniature female black poodle
that was obnoxious but I grew to love . Took it with me
one day on work related stuff . Lost track while I was
absorbed in ME , and then found it crushed on the street .
Had to scoop her up and bring her home to bury .
I have never ever cried that much as an adult .
Poor Leah ...oh that just killed me .
Obviously I have some sort of comma problem this evening. Imagine them in all the right places, and none of the wrong ones.

And I forgot to say how sorry I am about your furry friend....sigh...I suck.

I'm so sorry about your loss..
OSSheepdog…thanks for your support.

Mission, I don’t judge anyone for choosing anonymity except when they do it as a way to be needlessly cruel for their own cheap thrills. Thanks for stopping by the sandbox.

Blake, it is so easy to misread something in an email or a post or a comment. I don’t think I fully got your meaning, but I didn’t take it the wrong way. I just figured it was me. : )

Grif, “let’s all just delete and ignore” Very fine advice. I wish I’d thought of that. : ) Yes, I’m beginning to heal, it is a slow process, but it is just another learning experience. I made a decision today that brought me much peace. Thanks for all your support.
Thank you for your zen/road-rage story.
Hey, good post, good observations. Glad you decided to delete offensive, insulting comments, etc. If they bugged you, you have a right to do it. It's YOUR blog. Good for you JK.
Emma, thanks for stopping back with condolences. I am at the stage where I am swearing that I’ll never have another pet (except for the one I have left), but that never lasts long enough. Sorry to hear about your four. It doesn’t ever get easier, that is for sure.

P13, commas keep me awake at night. Hate those things. Thanks for your support, and sorry to hear that someone kicked you when you were down. We should expect it here in cyberspace, but it does feel like it comes from left field.

Stewie, I wish I hadn’t deleted the post so quickly, because I lost the opportunity to reply personally to the other comments. I just acted on the fly. Thanks for your support and kind thoughts.

Trig, oh God, that is an awful way to lose a beloved friend. I’m so sorry for your loss. Pets really have the power to bring us to our knees. Peace.
Kit and Kat…you are most welcome.

SK, thanks for adding your voice to the chorus. Always appreciated.
I missed what happened to you and I am sorry both for that and what happened to your cat. I have a fourteen year old cat who is so beloved that when she goes I don't even think I could write about it. You were brave to do it. I post under my own name and photo and have been lucky to have not experienced awfulness. I do not send it out either because I am me and I am not awful. I also agree with you re road rage. So when you read my posts or comments this is the real me. I hope you stay here and things go better....
I use my grandma's last name because I have grown daughters who don't particularly want their facebook friends finding out about me.
I plan to write almost nothing about them as adults. Blogging and mothering are such incompatible activities. I am using my own first name.
I only saw your post when it first went up, and didn't realize the nature of the comments had deteriorated. These people--sure, they're anonymous in the sense that we can't track them to their homes--but we know what kind of jerks they are. And probably the people who do know their real names know what kind of jerks they are too. I don't think you can compartmentalize that kind of vitriol.

And again, I'm so sorry. And I'm glad this didn't turn into a "why I'm leaving" post.
I am so sorry about your cat Max. What a great cat name. I was desolated when my 21 year old cat died a year ago; I would have been hypersensitive to anything negative. Your post is superb. I wish every newcomer had to read it.
JK, I'm pretty new here and don't understand a lot of what's going on, or who is posting the nasty stuff. Just wanted to say that having to deal with that while also dealing with saying good-bye to your cat must have been truly awful. We've said good-bye to many furry friends, including my horse Cisco who passed last December at nearly 32 years of age. He's who I use as my avatar. Once again, I'm so very sorry for your loss.
Good questions and points--- no real answers or advice---but perhaps this can help (below)-- you have a really good reason to want to stick around. I hope you do. Roger

http://open.salon.com/content.php?cid=101641
Lisa, welcome to my sandbox. I was reading your post today, but I’m a little short on concentration. I’ll revisit and comment tomorrow.

Mary, a completely understandable position to take as a Mom with kids on facebook. I appreciate your support.

Mrs. Michaels, I appreciated your comments on my previous post and on this one…and I’m not planning on flouncing out of my sandbox anytime soon.

Bluesurly, so sorry about Cisco. I’ve been thinking about getting back into horses of late, but I’m not sure if I can handle the heartache. I’m pretty new here also. I ducked through most of what went on, but this particular incident was personal. Thanks.

Chicago Guy, I’ll be sure to check this out. Thanks.
Well said JK. Sorry about your cat. It would be good to have nothing but civilised debate. I agree with what you say about anonymity not being an issue if a consistent persona is maintained and anonymity is not a shield for a coward to bully. Some can bully under their real names. It can be difficult to cope with anonymous unpleasantness even though one tries to tell oneself that it isn’t really important. “Manning up” doesn’t seem to help. There have been a lot of posts and comments defending by attacking which descend to the creeps’ own levels and merely fan the flames. Some get angry just because someone disagrees with them. Action begets reaction, anger begets anger.

Rated.
thanks everyone. It's been a long couple of days, so I'm closing this down because I can't keep deleting the trolls all night.

g-nite.
So sorry for the loss of Max and the awful cloud of hurtful comments. The trolls who aim to hurt are the worst.
This is a fine community full of very kind people as you have seen. We are in the majority. As OS becomes more open, we are going through some growing pains here.
Thank you for your excellent post.
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