When did you know? When life smacks you in the face, do you realize that you saw it coming all along?
I spent five years in an on-again/off-again relationship with a very successful lawyer. We lived 3000 miles apart most of the time, so it was good that he could afford to fly my poor student self around the country and world pretty much at whim. It also helped him as he was a pathological liar. He led many lives, and it took me years to unravel the truth.
But I was not surprised. You see from almost day one, I knew.
I knew the afternoon he came to the restaurant where I was working to ask me out for a dinner date. I was a cocky 19 year-old art student out on my own for the first time and he’d sat in my section a few weeks earlier. He asked me to dinner. I responded that lunch would be preferable because I knew. But then he picked me up in his white Porsche 911 and took me to Umberto’s. I knew, but I wavered.
We had five more dates before I packed in art school in disappointment and headed back home to face my mother’s interminable, “You can’t be a waitress all your life. When are you going pick something and stick with it?” He never did anything beyond kissing me goodnight; he was a perfect gentleman. I left in the mid-fall after six solid weeks of soul sucking west coast rain. I was in the middle of making new plans when I received his Christmas card a couple of months later. He wrote, “I fell in love with you the first time I saw you. I am doing business in New York these days, and I’d love to show you the city if you are interested.”
I was flattered, but I knew. I called to thank him for the lovely card, and I mostly declined the offer. I kept the door open a tad, but I knew.
While waiting for another school year to start, I worked in a new hotel. The young restaurant manager took a shine to me. We started dating, and he moved me from wait staff to bartender. There were lots of reasons for this move, but I knew. It became a 24/7 relationship—not at all my style. He coordinated our schedules to maximize our time together, and even when he was off shift, he sat at the end of my bar and watched, not at all pleased, at how I interacted with customers. I knew, but I didn’t have anything else to do while I was waiting for September to roll around. I let it pass, but I knew.
The first day back at school, I took the train in and expected to take it home. It was exhilarating to be back in school. At the end of the first day, my new friend Mike and I walked through the front doors of the Business building into the sunshine laughing and talking. He was waiting to drive me home. He walked rapidly towards us, and the look on his face told me what I already knew. He was following in his daddy’s footsteps.
I ended it that weekend. In a dramatic flourish, he left his car outside my parent’s house that evening and disappeared until the next morning. I knew. When he returned obviously unscathed, my father who had barely met him more than once went out to speak to him. I never spoke to him again. I knew.
Later that year, even though I knew, I took up the lawyer on his offer to go to New York. I was feeling pressure to have a relationship; to tick another item off the list; not to be alone at Christmas. But I knew. This started years of lies and deceptions of staggering magnitude. An elegant room in the Grand Hyatt and a week of enjoying the high-life around the Big Apple can be pretty blinding to young eyes. I knew, but the waver became a full scale stumble into self-delusion.
That summer, I moved to Vancouver to live with the lawyer until school started again. I was there maybe three weeks before he was called out of town one weekend. I didn’t know he had a race horse that he co-owned with his ex-girlfriend’s brother. And I didn’t know what could make it so suddenly ill and near death. I knew that he had never mentioned horses before in any way shape or form. I knew that Yakima, Washington was not that far away, and I pretended to know why I couldn’t go.
When he returned, I don’t know why he left the motel receipt paid for with his ex-girlfriend’s MasterCard in the suitcase he left on our bedroom floor; the bag I dumped when I was looking to add clothes to my laundry loads. I called a friend and emptied out my side of the closet into the back of her TR6 with the promise not to return. But I knew.
This was just the beginning and far from the worst of the tangles he wove, and I knew; always I knew.
After finally extricating myself from that mess, I found myself still with that list full of life items. (liftems?) You know the ones; the one’s that start from childhood—education, job, car, spouse, house, children in some sort of order. I had the education, the car and the job. I had a decent apartment in Vancouver’s West end. I needed a guy, so I picked one with a good job, his desk was 10 feet from mine, and a good sense of humour. That he had a live in girlfriend was of no more importance to me than it seemed to be to him. I knew, but he was attainable, so I wavered. I convinced myself I loved him.
When we moved in together, I knew. When we visited his family at Christmas, I knew. Four years later, when, after a year of his unemployment, we moved back to my hometown, I knew. Every Christmas, Valentine’s Day, and birthday that passed without a sparkling commitment, I knew, and I cried. When I finally came home from a business trip and announced that I felt we were done, I knew. Two years later, when the house was finally sold, and all the discussions avoided and the boxes packed, he finally admitted it. He’d known all along too. Ten years gone; we both knew.
It wasn’t just relationships. When I landed that first big job in sales, I knew. And with every new sales job I landed, I knew, but I wavered because I needed the money. When my future harasser called me about a job, I knew instantly. But I hated where I was so bad, I wavered. When he invited me to accompany him on a sales trip across the country, I knew. But I needed a break from routine, so I wavered. I paid a big price for ignoring that one, but it set me in a new direction.
When I finally had the courage to change course, I knew I’d always known. Strangely enough, this knowing wasn’t age related. When I was about eight, my mother sent me to the store alone. As I approached the store on my bike, there was a car parked nearby, and two men stood and watched me as I rode past, and I knew. They were still there when I came out, and I knew. I rode like the devil to avoid them because I knew. I think it surprised them more than a little that I knew.
Even when I ignored what I knew, I never wavered so long that I ended up bolting from the altar at the last minute, but I did throw more than a couple of job opportunities into the bin in the middle of the second or third interview because the knowing was too loud.
So, it is this knowing that makes me wonder. Am I special to know? Is knowing something you are taught? Or is it the opposite? Is the knowing something we are taught to suppress? I think it is the latter. Hindsight is 20-20, but do you ever realize you knew all along? And when you realize that, do you listen to that little voice harder the next time?
I read people’s life stories here on OS. Some have no problem taking full responsibility for their choices, and they learn and change. These people, I understand. But others seem to make the same choices over and over and still, they seem unable to take any responsibility for their choices. They seem to learn nothing about why they made the choices they did. I try not to judge, but I know. And then I waver.
When did you know?


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I finally accepted that I had to listen to what I knew when I realized there was nothing left of me anymore. That I couldn't even recognize myself. That my children deserved to know who I really am, not what their father allowed me be. I had to leave on my own or leave in an ambulance or in the back of a police car for something I'd regret the rest of my life.
I know better now.
good piece Janie, got me contemplating which is something. I'm usually on autopilot.
I think we are taught to suppress it, the knowing. We are taught to go along to get along. Sometimes it's to survive, sometimes it's to avoid a more painful reality.
::sigh:: It should be so simple.
But how do explain "the knowing," when to others it might look like a pretty stupid decision? Or to ourselves?
Damn it. I'm supposed to be working. But your post challenges me to think about what I know that I could be ignoring, and what I can do about it.
Did you read "Blink"? It's about knowing, and learning to know you know the moment you know.
I'm a "knower," but it has only been in the past few years that I know I know when I know. You know?
I loved this. Absolutely loved this. Your narrative was completely engaging - while pulling out nod after nod of agreement.
Perhaps the kindest service we can offer to others is hoping our stories will help them understand more about themselves. When this is done intentionally it’s beautiful work. When it’s unintentionally it’s masterful. I think you did both.
Rated and appreciated.
;-)
Halfway through my first semester of college I noticed this weird Goth chick around a lot. She was spooky as hell with her jet-black hair, kohled eyes and black clothing. When she started popping in to my classes, I started to wonder if she was stalking me.
We had never even talked until one day, after a lecture, I saw her sitting not far from me. I decided that I’d ignore her and would just sit there until she left. Did that work? Nope. Not so much… The next time I looked up the lecture hall was empty except for the two of us and she was taking the seat right beside me.
Trying to be a “cool college chick” I looked at her and said “ummm, Hi…. I’ve seen you around… you a Lit major too?”
She answered “Nope. Business…”
Like the completely naïve idiot I still am, I asked, “Oh, then why are you sitting through all of those literature lectures I see you in?”
Like the uber chill chick SHE still is, she didn’t say anything for a full minute while I squirmed in my chair, then she reached over and stroked my upper arm and said, “Mmmmm, I knew you’d have soft skin”…
Then the bitch got up and started walking away…
I sat frozen in my seat for what felt like hours, but was actually mere seconds. I had NEVER in my entire life felt anything like that. Amy is from Sicilian heritage so she called it “Colpo di fulmine” – the Thunderbolt – love at first sight.
When I finally got my few remaining wits together, I grabbed my stuff and dashed after her yelling, “Hey, wait a damn minute!”
We went for coffee, then dinner, then…
For more than a decade now, she has been my best friend, my passionate lover, the person our twin daughters call “Poppi” and now my spouse (screw you, California!).
Yeah, I knew from that first moment.
I was just thinking the other day that since I always know the right path, why don't I simply trust that all will work out for me? How many times do I have to continue to test it, in order to be reallyreallyreallyreallyreallyreallyreally sure that it works, before I can simply have faith and stop worrying?
It's nice to know that knowing is such a universal feeling.
I didn't like the taste, but I knew.
Enough to keep away for a long time, but then ...
Same old story, isn't it ? Moths and long lost flames and what spotted mind said. Things could be worse though, jk - those two guys in the car .... yeesh ...
Thanks for writing this. I've always thought I knew you knew.
I read a book evey year called women who run with wolves. It's a great book about our intuitive natures told in short stories. Incredible stuff. Every time I read it, at different stages in my life, (I've been reading it for about 10 years now I think) I get new insights. It reinforces what I rediscovered about myself in my early 20s.
You always know. We all do. Whether we listen or not is correlates to our degree of societal conditioning(IMO) .
Yes, we know.
Absolutely awesome post - but you knew that, didn't you! ;-)
*R*
for me, i almost always knew. the hardest part is taking the step to change once the knowing is pounding in your head.
i love that your pieces always make me think, even if it's not one of the hilarious ones. :-D
Rated.
Knowing is a lot about trusting yourself and knowing yourself.
I love it when you write from the heart like this.
I have often pondered this question. I almost always 'know' as well. Yet, often, I continue forward, swayed either by circumstance or by the whims of another. I have made several forays out of this. The first was when I went to graduate school. That decision was the right one. I knew, but in a good way. Then, the decision to have the Kid. I knew it was right. I just knew, but in a good way.
The rest ... why did I continue forward with so many things? I know, but I hate to admit it. I'm a drifter by nature. It was so easy to simply move along. I resolved never, ever to be involved with another man if I knew from the beginning it wasn't going to happen. I resolved to follow my instincts on business as well. Right now, my instinct is niggling me about something, and I'm on the verge of ignoring it. Just reading this has strengthened my resolve. I know. It's time to admit it.
Rated highly.
Now that's out of the way ---
"But others seem to make the same choices over and over and still, they seem unable to take any responsibility for their choices. "
I know, but you're like my poisoned candy General, I know, I shouldn't eat, but I do!! OH GOD, WHEN WILL I EVER LEARN!!
Now that's out of the way....:)
I don't think some folks ever know, or they know, but they think things will change or they can change the other person for the better.
It becomes this sick little game.....
Rated.
I spent a lot of years dealing financial risk and decision making under conditions of uncertainty. Hindsight is always so 20/20.
It is also a way of feeling like we have more control over life than we ever do. A lot of this has to do with giving up on people sooner than we do. But a lot of that is loyalty and hope and love mixed with wishful thinking. And the idea that people never change and can't grow, etc. -- maybe so, but people do change. What about Jerry Maguire, "...I love him for the man he wants to be. And I love him for the man he almost is." ? Is that total bullshit? Maybe mostly, but not entirely.
And what about the times when things work out and we didn't know? I mean, you take a chance on someone and it works out. One of the best hires I ever made had a horrible interview. He also had excellent references, so it was a risk, but it worked out. Exceptionally well.
People have to take chances.
The one area that you can't compromise on is character, though. I mean, I suppose I have been lucky in this regard.
And then there is the notion of forgiving yourself. How can you really forgive yourself regarding a bad decision if you believe that you "knew"? People make non optimal decisions all the time, live with the consequences, and then, at some point, move on. The fact that you -- and others -- suffered from that decision doesn't negate the fact that you probably had the best intentions, and tried incredibly hard, and the experience included some good stuff also. Part of owning your past is not confusing the fact that you SHOULD have known, or COULD have known, or MIGHT have known -- with the fiction that you ACTUALLY KNEW.
That love's a game for beauty queens
Who rip out hearts from lonely men
And flattened them with boots, and then
Chew up the flattened arteries
And fry the rest in deep fry grease
Discard the corpses, start once more
That is the lover's losing war.
Yeah, it's crappy doggerel verse, but it's better and more true than any of the bilgewater verse I've read on Salon.
Thanks !
Thank you for confirming this for me.
And to this day, they still don't know.
I really enjoyed this piece.
Yes. Sometimes. And sometimes, I just can't help myself ...
Marvellous writing.
~R
Even though I subjected myself to years of turmoil, I believe that if I had not had that "knowing" lurking around in the background, it would never have turned out like this.
Thank you JK for writing this insightful piece.
Our life path is so often a slippery slope of our choices, known and unknown. There really is so little control over that as we are just as swayed by our present circumstances as we are our past accumulation of experiences andinfluences that surround us. We most often cannot choose our cirstances, however, we can choose how to navigate through them. Your story is so poignant and real.
This is a very impressive piece that you've written here, and I expect that it will show up as an EP in a few days ( and please don't anybody feel the need to make any "I don't care about EP's" comments). I say this a compliment to you on a fine piece of writing.
--- Lucy to the Judge in Stephen King's "The Stand"
Terrific essay - I've always known, too, except for one time but then it was from behind and I was wearing headphones, so it was more a case of not being in a position to know.
Well, we all know that saying. We know it very well.
That's why we do stupid things.
They say teaching kids to "finish their food" is actually unhealthy as it teaches them to override their natural stops and become overeaters.
The problem is when it comes to relationships--hormones and energy drives tend to override the gut...
pain and suffering seem to bring moments of clarity..but even then---who's to say.
All we can do is try and encourage each other to be careful, to remind each other to listen to our gut.
But--good luck with that!
But there are people who don't do this! Who don't know! Who have no idea that they are being so freaking inconsistent in their judgment of others even while they do practically the same thing.
That drives me crazy.
As you were.
:)
I know.
I really always know.
Can I use the words know and knew any more in a short comment?
For the most part I knew, but only from learning from what I didn't at the time. I hate when that happens, but I do always get another piece of the code from it, so all is not lost.
R
Walkaway, we all make decisions that counter our knowing for all sorts of reasons, but if we look hard enough, no matter how bad it seems, we can always find the silver lining. I bet you feel that when you look at your 3 beautiful boys.
Barry, I too have been lucky, but do know that some of that luck has to do with paying attention and taking advantage of the luck that is sent my way. If you make enough good decisions, I think autopilot is the reward…just look up every now and then.
Lunchlady, so you fall on the side of knowing. Thank you.
Owl, when the knowing points to something that seems outrageous, it takes real courage to go with it. I know. I’ve ignored it at those times. And there are plenty of circumstances where situations just don’t allow people to follow their gut, but I hope it doesn’t lead them to stop trusting in it so they can eventually take a new direction. Thanks.
m. a.h, I’ll check out that book. And I know. It took me years to know I know and still, I wonder if I really do. Sigh. Thank you.
Dennis, wow, thank you. As usual, you make me wish I could rate comments too.
Spot, me too. When I have nothing to lose, sometimes I just go against the grain. It’s part of the learning process I think…to test the hypothesis. Thx.
Julie, so true. Thank you, and please come get your mother now…she’s still singing. ;)
CK, a humble thank you.
Safe_bet, “Colpo di fulmine” I love it. Your name belies your courage. What a great love story. It is a post in itself. I hope you expand on it someday…or did you already?
Lisa, that trust is what I am still struggling with and yet I have lots of empirical evidence that says I need to trust more. Maybe the constant testing is what keeps us from going into autopilot. Thank you.
OM, I’ve had to ignore it out of necessity more than once too. It does seem to hurt more when you knew you knew, but you had to do it anyway.
MaddieP, I read Women Who Run With the Wolves as a lead up to leaving my last relationship. It took me about a year to get through it as each chapter resonated so beautifully that I had to let it sink in. I refer to it often still. And I agree, for women, “being nice” usually suppresses the knowing.
Kyle, I didn’t know all that you went through, but I’m glad you knew even if you couldn’t always act on it right away.
Femme, you were a bit of an inspiration as well. Eventually, the pounding gets too loud. This you know. :D
Chuck, knowing you don’t know is often just as powerful. Thx.
Walkaway, you came back. I knew you would. ;)
A~Muse, thank you. I think we are born knowing. Too many people are taught not to trust it or never given the chance to test it out in a safe environment.
Robin, I’m glad you found your sense of knowing again. It’s an easy thing to lose sometimes when too many changes happen at once. xox
Barking, as I said t a~muse, I think we need a safe environment to learn to trust that voice. Sort of like training wheels and Mom nearby with a box of bandages. Thank you.
Odette, I am a bit of a drifter too. I call it going with the flow. I try to trust the flow as well. Now about that niggling feeling of yours… ;) Thank you.
Gail, noise is a huge distraction for many people I believe. I know I do that too. Thank you.
But sometimes, we just know. Children have a magnificent radar attuned to all around them. I can't tell you how many times, wheeling my kids around in the supermarket, one of them would whisper to me about another customer who was "scary". One look convinced me they were harmless; after all, they were usually dressed nicely, had a cart loaded with items, seemed to be at the very least pleasant.
But I always listened to that child's statement. Because usually, they just know.
I found that there were times when things didn't turn out like I had planned when I started something, but seems like I knew even before I started - I just chose to brush that feeling aside and wade in.
"The objective of all dedicated product support employees should be to thoroughly analyze all situations, anticipate all problems prior to their occurrence, have answers for these problems, and move swiftly to solve these problems when called upon. However, when you are up to your ass in alligators, it is difficult to remind yourself that your initial objective was to drain the swamp. "
Yup - that's me all over. Pass the iodine and band-aids when you're done with them. :-D
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Gwool, Thank you.
Tink, you are right on about people thinking things or people will change. I’ve done it myself. Like right now, I’m hoping to change you and get you to give up all that porn and the Tbear and be mine exclusively, but I know I can’t. *wanders off* Wait, this is my blog…you wander off. ;)
Lea, your misogyny piece and a few others got me to finally put these thoughts down on paper. I’m so glad you finally know. Thank you.
Silk, I’m like you in that I usually knew and went ahead anyway. It does make it easier to live with it. And I often wonder about people who genuinely seem not to know. I try really hard not to judge. Thank you.
Nick…??? I try to leave money and finances out of this equation, but I bet there are clients of Bernie Maddoff who knew but fell prey to the hype and the pressure. Maybe not everyone has an inner voice, and that is part of the question I pose here. But I’d never call my knowing fiction because I’ve tested it too many times to count. Maybe luck is just another word for listening?
Tomreetoon, great song. I remember it well.
Scarlett, thank you. I knew you’d think that. ;)
Kathy, we underestimate it at our peril often, but fortunately, we usually just get a scraped knee.
Cartouche, I knew there were people on OS for whom this would resonate, and I knew you would be one of them. But that’s because I’ve read your stuff. Thank you.
Voicegal, wow, your dreams tell you things. I love that. We studied dream yoga at the ashram, and the dreams I had there were very prescient. It was like I opened a channel. And now it’s closed again. Sigh. I wish you would write on that more. Thank you.
Daniel, thank you. I’m so deep into these comments that I’m not sure who knew what and when either. ;)
HowSoon, thank you.
Brian, I think you know more than you admit. I know that.
1_Mum, I can’t help myself either often. It does keep life interesting though. Thx.
FusunA, I’m a good pretender too. Thank you.
Skeletnwmn, thank you for playing muse to this piece. Your misogyny post dragged this all up to the surface. That knowing served you well no matter how long it took you to listen to it.
JustCathy, thank you. We don’t get to choose our circumstances, but if we have the right supports in place we do learn to navigate. And I think it requires being brutally honest with ourselves no matter how harsh.
Jill, At least you know you have a bad picker, that’s a start. I know I was a bad, bad picker for far too long.
Momsacomic, I think our vulnerability is where we all stumble. I know it was for me. I was lucky I had some good supports to help me back on my feet so I could learn.
Grif, I imagine the divorce courts are full of people who knew before they hit the altar. The pressure to marry can be overwhelming when we are young. It is up to parents to help ease that pressure. I think divorces are easier when both parties can admit they knew and move on. Thank you for your kind words.
Sandra, one of the things martial arts teaches is to always be in a position to know. Awareness. It is a tough thing to master. I’m still trying. Thank you.
Rita, yeah, I kind of prefer knowing too. Thank you.
Joy, I’ve heard that saying too many times to count. Thx.
Sweet peony, my gut rules for the most part. And I totally agree with you on the food issue. I think society programs out a lot of the natural gut instincts – no pun intended. I’ll be interested to see your post on this topic when you do it.
Peppermint, I know that feeling. I just made a huge decision that affects the next 3 months of my life. It took months to make it because I couldn’t quite hear what my gut was telling me. Once I knew, it was a huge relief. Major changes are wonderful things when we follow our guts.
Leonde, I don’t know if it is any easier when we get older, because we get complacent and comfy and our risk taking impulses dull. Be nice to yourself.
ANFSCD, I think the two are inextricably linked. But wrong is always more dramatic.
Dragonlady, it is a good comment. And thank you.
Surly, I was knowing my knowing.
Frank, your blog is a perfect example of this because you know and you are deciding otherwise. As for the linear thing, I think I know that too. Merci.
Lonnie, I knew that about you. ;)
Joan H, exactly. I hate when I let it get so loud it drowns out everything else.
Aqwyyan5, I knew you would comment, I just knew, and could you please get a moniker that is easier to type.
Aspasia411, but you learned, and you had family to support you, and that is something to be thankful for.
Melissa, I think you know how many times you can know and knew in a comment. You always knew. ;)
Buffy, exactly. Each lesson, if we pay attention helps us know better the next time the voice niggles at us. Maybe we will have the whole code when we are old crones giving out sage advice. One can hope right? Thank you.
Boanerges, did the Redhead ask you to correct this comment, or did you know you should before she said anything? ;-)
Sheepie...sigh, this feeling I know. *passing more bandaids and iodine*
Enjoyable read.
There were a lot of people that actually did know that Maddoff was doing something wrong -- but assumed that he was "scalping" or somehow cheating in his trading operations (which were, to my knowledge legit).
So, I would say that on basic issues of personal integrity, you can't compromise -- without knowing that you are vulnerable.
And I didn't mean to imply -- in my last sentence -- that fiction applied to your knowledge.
Once again, a very thought provoking post.
I have made a huge number of mistakes in my life. I've been told repeatedly that I am "too smart for my own good," "too smart to be happy," and that I "think too much." Not sure about the smart part given my track record, but I definitely over-analyze a situation, then sometimes make the wrong decision anyway. I've written before about trusting my intuition and what happens when I don't. In relationships, yes, I sometimes knew that the bad boys were gonna make me cry and treat me badly, and I did it anyway. That had to do with a lack of self esteem and repeating old patterns I learned in childhood. In work situations I was more naive than knowing for a long, long time. I sometimes trusted and confided in the wrong people. I suck at politics. I'm too honest and outspoken, plus, get a few drinks in me and I become ridiculously sentimental.
Despite a tough facade, I am actually pretty trusting underneath. I WANT to believe that people are good and mean what they say, especially if I like them, and I don't always follow my gut even when it's wrenching with doubt. But as I've written before, my gut is rarely wrong. Following the knowing of that is a sign of maturity, as is stepping out of the fray and keeping quiet when to speak is only going to cause more pain. I clearly have a lot of growing up to do. This post brought a lot of that to the fore and I am grateful to you for writing it. Thank you.
nana, I always knew you knew. I did.
justme60, you don't have to know anything, but when you do know, how do you learn to trust the knowing?
Nick, I can tell this has provoked you into many thoughts. And I am most appreciative.
Emma, as Barry said, a beautiful heartfelt response. If my writing can evoke suck a visceral response in a writer such as yourself, then my work here is done...at least for today. Thank you for coming back to clarify.
It did get me to think a lot. rated ~
The dangerous men have always been full of intrigue and momentary delights, but I always knew. I took responsibility for my choices, but still repeated them. It's become a bad habit of sorts:)
For me, the answer is that I almost always know, about a great many things. I've scared people sometimes by acting confidently upon that knowledge, I guess because they expected me to struggle with something that was absolutely clear to me. To appease them, I've gone the other way and let their uncertainty overrule what I know but that always works out badly. And many times I've known but decided to do the opposite anyway, mainly because I didn't like the idea of whatever it was I truly knew, or because I was simply afraid to do it.
Sometimes though I get it right. For example, I've lived in three different cities since college, and each of those moves were a case of knowing it was the right location at the right time, although in none of those moves was it obvious to anyone, including me at the time, why I had to move to that city right then.
Truth is: on the wedding night, not long after the...festivities, I knew. And I wavered. But, I knew.
Here's yer sign.....Outstanding piece, JK.