jlsathre

jlsathre
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I'm a lawyer in my past life, who got the kids through college and decided to try something different and a little more fun. A used book store sounded like a good idea, so that's where I am for now. I just hadn't counted on a recession or E-readers and am a little afraid there's going to be a third act. In the meantime, I have plenty to read and a little time to write. Not a bad way to spend a day.

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AUGUST 3, 2012 11:34AM

Peeing In a Bookstore

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It's been a little lonely in the bookstore these days. Not because of the lack of customers, but because my landlord instituted a "no dog" rule and my store dog is now relegated to doing his reading at home.

I used to joke that more customers knew his name than  mine-- which wasn't really much of a joke since it was true. People brought him treats so often that I  got jealous and whined a bit. This turned out to be a good thing because pretty soon people were bringing in home grown tomatoes, peppers, corn, and the occasional home baked cookies right along with the dog biscuits. 

In the past month, however, I've had to watch the customers stop at the front door waiting for him to bound up and only reluctantly rounding the corner to ask me if he was sick. His absence has been noticed far more than the lack of any "Christian fiction" section.

 "He could bring fleas into the building." the landlord said.

"But he's treated religiously and has never had fleas."

"People might be allergic."

"But he has hair, not fur. He's hypoallegenic."

"He could have accidents in the store."

And that's where he got me. Because the truth is that he has had an acccident in the store.

But the bigger truth is that my customers have had more accidents than the dog. That was a fact I didn't want to share with the landlord. I was worried he might ban customers.

And I'm not talking about slip and falls or books falling on heads. I'm talking about people peeing in the store. In the head to head competition of people versus dog, the people are winning three to one.  

It's something I wasn't prepared for. Something that wasn't anywhere on my radar when opening. Something I hadn't considered in my business plan. Not that I really had a business plan. If I had, I might be selling something actually popular, like cupcakes, instead of books.

It's been a little surprising to have so many people pee in the store. In all my years (excluding swimming pools, of course, which apparently even Olympians do), I've peed in a public place only once--in first grade, sitting at my desk, too timid or too embarrassed to ask if I could go to the bathroom. And then, all of a sudden, too late. As well as too early to have had the critical thinking skills to realize that peeing on the floor might be a little more embarassing than asking permission.

I learned the pain of public humiliation that year right along with learning how to read. Both of which have served me well.  

When I saw the three people peeing in the bookstore, I knew what to do and did what I wish my teacher had done. I watched it happen, ignored it the best I could, and let them leave without the embarrassment of knowing I saw. Partly out of kindness, but also because it's not as if I could have yelled "Bad dog!" and gotten them to stop.  

My guess is that there were some health related reasons--colostomy bags overflowing or something. Still, three separate times seems unusual. 

I can't help but think I may hold some sort of record for the number of people peeing in a store. My own gold medal so to speak. Although I can't be sure.

Maybe this is just one of those things that they don't warn you about in business school and that shop owners don't talk about. Because up until now, I haven't shared the story with anyone other than my immediate family. It just seemed unlikely to be a hook that would bring people in. 

"Hey, let's go to the bookstore that holds the gold medal for....oh....yeah. Well, maybe not. Let's order it from Amazon."

I really don't need any more of that.

I even debated whether to post it here. But this is a circumspect group. And "Peeing In a Bookstore" is hardly a title likely to find its way onto Big Salon, or to go viral, so I feel pretty safe.

I'd just like a little recognition for my medal. 

 

 

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Oh, yeah, this one will go viral. Anything scatalogical in the title is a guarantee.

My sister shocked me one day when she told me how often BOTH functions occur in the dressing rooms of the department store she works in. She is of the opinion that it is done on purpose -- who knows why. Dealing with the public is not for sissies.

Lezlie
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Between this and Lezlie's comment I'm a little worried now ...
You had me at the title. "Oh, boy! Peeing! This should be good," I thought as I whizzed through your hilarious and intriguing piece. Urine a category by yourself, I should say. R
I've re-posted this to SmallBookShopUrinaryNews.com.

r.
Woah, Jilly. That certainly WAS a hard thing to write up, but also - Lezlie is right. I have no idea why folks flock to the aberrations of others -- but there it is. When I first opened Atlantis, a stranger (and no, I do NOT mean new-in-town) needed to hunker his bad self down to what must've been haunches to lift a bit of the old bark-cloth 40's drapes that separated the back area from the first dressing room - and -- whirl -- yes, I said whirl - his member into the void. Strange? Yes! Reaction, oooh, you bet. The cognition that he could not possibly have had any clue just WHAT was beyond those curtains that he was a-flaggin' into only came later. My immediate reaction was to back up to the office doorway, and frantically gesticulate to my clerk pal up front, and wildly wave toward the dressing room entrance, and make crazed hammerings in the air of this cat - doin' the deed on himself. Jesus. It's a laugh riot now, but it sure wasn't then. In the end, I actually KNEW four other women that got this most unwelcome eyeful, and within 24 hours. We trouped to the City Attorney's office together, only to be informed that each count only carried a maximum sentence of 30 days. 4 Months. Juuuust enough time to piss this guy off enough to likely do worse. But - when they picked him up on our charges, they found a loaded shotgun in his apartment, and that was a Parole violation, so our 4 Misdemeanors held no bearing anyway. He was returned to Federal prison, his Parole revoked, and, at least, leaving us out of harm's way. So, I guess the peeing is a bit more benign, but icky, nonetheless. There is a site to order a solution that will at least eliminate the odor and stain, it's called PoopOff, and is supposedly for pets. Sigh. I just wanted you to know you're not alone!
hi there - that is an alarming accolade you have there, jl.

totally off the subject - do you host open mics? ours is music and word, and it is the busiest night of the week in our store.

just a thought.
Lezlie--Does that mean I have to give up my medal?

Algis--I wouldn't let in the store dressed like that!

Kim--If anyone ever tells you that they spilled a little Mountain Dew, don't believe them.

Gerald--I know how to pull the little boys in. "Poop" would have gotten you here even faster.

Jonathan--Yay! A cross-post.

Songbird--Wow. You've got a story to write too. And you're right about the pet products. They all work just fine.
Okay, I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say that your store isn't equipped with a bathroom? If that is the case then you need to have a talk with your landlord. Having one of those will not only help keep foot traffic in your store longer, but it will cut down on your expense of cleaning materials.
daisyjane--The open mic idea is a good one. I just don't have the space.

David--Actually I do have a bathroom. Which makes it even stranger.
I saw You on the 'Most Recent' Post at the Top.

Urine smells after a few days. Never pee in pool.

Olympic Swimmers No Pee gold. No swim on toilet.

I hope Michael Phelps No Pee Off High Diving Board.

Some editors and children fear indoor Flushing Spring.
Are you kidding? You've already been in the "most viewed" feed longer than anybody except Velina with your "things I learned" post. This will not only go Big Salon but will get you a berth on Letterman, and who knows where from there. I guess it's safe to say your store does not a public lavatory.
I bet you thought Justice Byron "Whizzer" White got that nickname due to his football skills.
Our itinerant vegetable man peed off our front porch when I was a kid. My mom banned him after that.
recognized. your medal.
mettle.
ha: "I learned the pain of public humiliation
that year right along
with learning how to read.
Both of which have served me well. "

is there a conjunction therein?
maybe.


i used to pee in borders when they existed . i put my
merchandise outside the mens rm door
and let loose then let myself loose on
the books.

bygone days, peeing in bookstores, for me.
now, where is yrs? wh
I doubt this is accidental, there's a reason there are laws about public urination, I bet Lezlie is right. On the upside, it's probably less creepy to have people sneaking around peeing in public than those people who sneak around to peep at others when they pee. Bummer that you have to clean it up.
I came for the title and stayed for the story. Nicely done.
See? This is what I'm talking about. I totally visualized this as an HBO series installment. I heard your wry voice narrating your encounters with peeing customers (as opposed to paying), and saw the weirdos slipping out of your bookstore in shame. ... Peeing in bookstores? Who knew? I, for one, think you deserve a medal. :)
Oh my. But I did find myself laughing a bit. Poor souls, how embarrassing.
Art--I don't know for sure, but I think Phelps may be peeing gold.

Matt--Letterman!? I get to go on Letterman!? And I don't even have to teach my dog a stupid dog trick?

And I do have a public lavatory.

Stim--Hmmm......

Con--I don't have enough customers to start banning them.

James--Oh, I think I like mettle even better.

l'Heure--Cleaning it up is kind of a test of your gag reflex.

Jeff--Glad you came by. You and Gerald, both pulled in by the pee word.

Deborah--And I say, start writing it, Deborah. Then Matt can get us both on Letterman.

sweetfeet--It would be embarrassing, but I'm still not convinced they knew they did it.
I really enjoyed this piece, except for the part of your poor dog getting banned from the store. Is there a petition I can sign? I think it all boils down to "people are strange". Anyone who has regular contact with the public gets a glimpse into bizarro world. My corollary is that "everyone has a story". You've been able to document this, too, of course. Keep your observations coming, please!
Sorry getting so late to this post but I was off to my local bookstore. I had to pee...

One hardly knows what to say...? Maybe I'll econsider my own thoughts about opening a bookstore sometime. Wow.
That is pretty amazing. I never heard of people doing that.
If you're lucky, this one will replace "25 Things I Learned..." in the most viewed column!
I've got it! -- The perfect retort -- "Excuuuse me, but this is MY turf. Please do not be marking it with your own scent." You might even add something about how it's makin' the dogs go crazy and all. (You know how they are...)
I had the same experience in first grade. Humiliation still in the memory banks. And this is a great story, but, but, you cleaned up stranger pee and possible colostomy overflow? I vote you a gold medal for that alone.

I am oddly fascinated trying to get a picture of these incidents. A man I could imagine peeing into a corner... Heaven forbid on any books! Women just stood there and left you a puddle? Did no one even ask for a bathroom? Okay, I'm skeeving myself out now, sorry. Just, why a bookstore??
My grandpa used to tell stories of the ladies in the long skirts leaving wet spots on the ground while they were waiting to cross the street in town, so if it helps you can tell yourself that public urination is a time honored tradition. :)
Eww for you and for them...I hope your right and it is done because they have no other option not out of spite.
Gonna have to call this "PEE WEEK"

A comedian (Arte somebody, used to be on Howard Stern's radio show) decided to pee on the floor in the radio station and then demand two interns clean it up. They refused. The janitor had to do it. The radio station sanctioned him 3 days off the air for this "joke" that wasn't funny to anyone but Arte.
P.S. That makes Arte a pee-brain.
Jennifer--I agree with all your observations. There are a lot of interesting stories out there.

Rob--Good one!

Shelia--I'm finding out it's apparently not all that unusual.

Mark--I think this one has a short shelf life. Hopefully, the other one will expire soon.

Songbird--Perfect! I'm going to remember that one.

Sally--My sympathies for your 1st grade experience. And, no, no requests for a bathroom. One guy pretty clearly was having some health issues. The others just seemed oblivious.

phyllis--I love that bit of history. Who knew.

lunchlady--I don't think it was spite. Two of them have been back and they all bought books.

Kate--Damn. I'm getting depressed. I may not hold a record after all.
I can see this post going viral right along with your other one and a movie deal. There must be so many avenues open for what happens in a book store that you could really spice it up. Woo.
Crazy. I'm trying to envision how this actually occurred ... but then again maybe it's better not to.
another reason to avoid Proust
All I have to say is your landlord is a dick!
I was listening to Michael Feldman's Whadya' Know this morning, and a girl in the audience said she volunteered at a gymnastics camp. He asked her what could be difficult at a gymnastics camp, and she told him cleaning up pee and other things she wouldn't mention. I think that, given that expelling of waste is a routine human function, and the great variety of people and bodily conditions and emergencies, that this likely happens more than we would care to imagine.

Your landlord is probably paranoid about lawsuits. You might want to tell him he should start being paranoid about renting his building. If the dog brings in customers, he is wrecking your business.
Thanks for posting. I'll be thinking about this story all day now as I try to picture these three people peeing. I mean did they appear to know what they were doing? Were they blatantly posturing themselves so as not to get the pee on themselves? Or was it a case of them standing there, reading a book, totally unaware of the pee running down their legs?
This is a strange thing some people do. In the construction trades, I have seen both tradesmen and contractors do it in houses being built...right onto the new wood. Perhaps its an inate human need to mark territory and is an urge that some people cannot resist. In many cases, I think there is a physical urgency that is justified in their minds. Very good piece.
zanelle--The cast of characters on OS could make an even better movie.

Manhattan--Probably better to just move on and be a little more leery of puddles.

Daman--Everybody always finds a reason to avoid Proust....

jmac--I second that nomination.

John--At least the gymnastics lady was probably dealing with kids. And, yeah, I'm sure you're right about the fear of lawsuits (along with his dickishness).

Andy--They really seemed unaware, which is why I blame health issues.

lschmopie--My thoughts exactly as I was cleaning up.

Gary--"Kilroy was here" just doesn't do it, I guess.
Zanelle is right. Get that deal and then use the money to be a crusading lawyer/bookstore owning mega writer.
Fascinating.... As someone with psychosomatic bowel and bladder issues, peeing anywhere besides a private, isolated toilet is hellacious for me, unthinkable unless the unthinkable happens. This is like visiting some bizarro world - you have blown my mind. All my respect for you not saying anything, just in case these people aren't doing it on purpose, which of course, maybe they're not....Odd.

Also odd is the fact that you can't have a pet in your store. So many bookstores seem to have pets, who often serve as mascots. Cats seem especially popular. I feel like a loving animal and books go so perfectly together - two simple pleasures of life. I'm sorry you can't share your dog's company with your clients. Maybe you could get them to sign a petition and show it to your landlord?
OK, I am worldly...so to speak. But this is a new one. So it was adults right? Not babies. Ok, you made that clear, sorry. It just so...

I had to ask.
Thanks for this bit of "golden" light on a day that has me feeling anything but happy. And thank you for your comment on my piece regarding today's shooting.
Could it mean that people are so wrapped up in reading they can't tear themselves away for a bathroom break? Personally I can't think of a public place I'd rather pee in, other than the library.

And look on the bright side - at least they're not pooping. If they were doing that, they'd probably be ripping pages out of the books to wipe themselves with.
'"Peeing In a Bookstore" is hardly a title likely to find its way onto Big Salon, or' ....get an editor's pick?

HHmmm

The things we talk about LOL

Had relative once that said if she had a dog that peed on the carpet she would get rid of the dog; I was shocked and thought we should get rid of her.
I think peeing in a bookstore is outrageous!

I save my pee for the hardware store.

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Oh man, if I could single-handedly make this go viral, I would! But maybe "viral" is the wrong word. Maybe this could be the first blog post to go "urinal."
fernsy--I've already walked away from that lawyer bit.

Alysa--You've given me an great idea for a name change--Bizarro Books.

Dianne--Well...the store is in the Midwest. Not exactly the most worldly place.

Mary--You're very welcome.

Margaret--OH! The visuals you've given me....

Zachery--Some people don't deserve dogs.

Spumey--Because of the buckets?

Cranky--"I've gone urinal!" I like the sound of it.
I am truly shocked.

In the Netherlands we call these people "wild pissers". Mostly they target the outside walls of medieval churches (like in 'sHertogenbosch), mostly after a pub crawl. The chuches of 'sHertogenbosch are now equipped with plastic siding at pee level. I can't believe these people just pee in your store. Is there no back alley or convenient bush? The mind boggles. My scheeve-o-meter is on tilt.


I salute your gold medal in micturition tolerance.

R
Your landlord is missing the boat - I'd be much more inclined to shop at a store with a nice, friendly dog than one without one. Boo! And of all the stores to pee in.... why the bookstore? Anyway, congrats on handling it with grace.