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OCTOBER 27, 2011 6:46AM

"JESUS H. CHRIST!" -- "H." ? -- Where'd THAT Come From?

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Christ with Arms Folded (Rembrandt)     

 

     You weren't likely around in the years just prior and subsequent to Jesus' murder at Jerusalem. The deal is that for years before and after, under the thumb of the most oppressive Western regime until the Nazis, Roman-occupied Jews knew of dozens, hundreds, thousands of would-be saviors, momentary-mystics rushing out to the Judean desert, starving themselves silly and into hallucenogenic ecstasies, then rushing back to the city walls crying, weeping, moaning, WOE TO JERUSALEM! and the like (see Josephus, for one reliable report). In most cases, those trying to get some sleep hurled rocks and stones and garbage over the walls. Some, maddened themselves by the nearly continuous howling, went outside the walls and beat hell out of the self-annointed. These fellas' spiritual-urgency just couldn't match the typical pressed-for-restful nights-Judean's need for sound sleep and routinely got themselves pummelled, thrashed, and, on occasions, killed.

     The Galileean Wisdom-Teacher, of course, got it worse than most, and sadly, too, for the man had a great deal of Good to teach. (As if we'd listen.)

Road by the Walls of ancient Jerusalem

     Fast-forward to the modern Israeli State.

     The Self-Made-Messiah Phenomenon never really went away. Rome was brutal but never brutal enough---nor is any vicious government--to quell that in the human spirit that makes some believe they're God's Answer.

     Shortly after the founding of modern Jerusalem's first comprehensive psychiatric hospital, its staff realized that the ancient act never really ended--people still flung themselves out into the wilderness, and lacking food and proper fluids and for days, stumbled back to the city's gates proclaiming they, each of them, was One with The One, and that All Israel Had Better Repent.

The Judean Desert

     A ward for these benighted fellows was begun, but when asked their names--they were often found sans anything remotely like valid IDs (nor with families willing to own up to them)--and they were hustled, moaning and pointing and admonitioning, indoors...they, most of them, gave over that their names were...what else? Jesus Christ.

     That, of course, wouldn't do. Patients must be identified at least within a range of accuracy. The hospital decided to call them all Jesus Christ (if only to gain a foothold on cooperation) and then, to distinguish among them with anything that would make paper-work and medicating less nightmarish, labeled their doors, intially, in this manner:

          Jesus A. Christ...Jesus B. Christ....through Z...and the scheme has been multiplied upon in the decades since. AA. BB. CC. DD.... ... ... A1. A1a...you can see their charts now, yes?

     Now, why the "H." stuck, had such enduring, universal appeal, no one appears to know. It's one of those ageless questions wrapped in Mystery. No one in Rome or at Jerusalem seems to know. At least no one's saying.

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Of course, the net's replete w Jesus H. Christ provenance explanations/tales. Mine is the very best anywhere and has the advantage of being true.
I take your word for it.-R-
Actually, I've always wondered about this! ~r
As my grandson would say, "You're just telling a story, right?" I think the "H" stands for Heathen.
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Holly The best historians tell us that between the year of his birth and the year 50 (27 yrs after Jesus' murder, Romans crucified 50,000 in Judea (southern Israel) alone. That's 9 per week. It was as routine as drinking water.
Fay I don't typically accept heathen comments here but we're friends... ... ... :)
Joanie Oh Dear! You...YOU are a J.H. ... ... ... :)
I thought it was Jesus Fucking Christ--that's what I hear at Home Depot whenever a guy drops something on his foot.
Con yet another H.eathen, of course.
First I've heard of this explanation JW. I'll stick with it until a better one comes along.
Abra you'll thank me when the question's asked in heaven... ... ... ;)
Doesn't the H stand for Harold? But I don't know why either. Let's not forget that Canadians and Jesus Murphy. -R-
Christine or sacred H.eart...I've heard that one, too. But I like mine best. :)
Matt OHH now I have to put on Leonard Cohen!
I've always thought that the H stood for Horatio, probably because it has a nice ring to it. I mean, what if it stood for something like Herman? That just wouldn't work at all.
Kosh Hortense, tho, might be worse.
Very interesting. I have heard the before, obviously, but your fire in the telling was well, quite compelling. I was drawn to this post by the title. My mother used to exclaim "Jesus H Chrsit!" when really vexed by something. If it was esp. bad, it was "Jesus H $%^&* Christ!" So, amused I was to read your title, then less so when reading the content. Good piece. Thanks for the history. I have always wondered about the H. My husband and I were just discussing it a few days ago, oddly.
I am a minister in the Church of Jesus H. Christ. I could explain everything to you...but if you did not join the church for life, I would have to search you out and smite you.

Smiting is such a pain in the ass, I just don't want to do it.
Frank your's a genuine H.umanist. :)
Whoa dude, I need another cuppa before I re-read this. I always thought it was Heloise...
Jesus Murphy is right Christine..:)
HUGGGGGG
this was hugely illuminationg. now, I'm wondering whether we invoke "h" or "aitch"? but it doesn't really matter for now the mystery is solved. kind of . maybe.
Methinks perhaps Jon W has tongue firmly planted in cheek.
Linda You and Christine are the Three Wise Women all in Two!
Walter I am serious. And Drop-Dead Heavenly Cute.
Interesting thing is that there is absolutely no reliable historical proof that the first jesus ever lived. Josephus' passage about him has been questioned since it's a single paragraph and seems to have been added by the church later on to add a non-biblical source for the existence of the guy. There's two good works on this: Nailed, which is by a former fundamentalist who set out to find the historical jesus and found that there was nobody there; and "the god who never was," which also shows that there is no evidence for the man from Galilee.
Lovely blog and lovely comments,Jonathan.I come back later if the OS lets me in.It is difficult at times like last night,
The "H" really surprises me .I can't remember seeing it anywhere.To me,it does not matter.I do not fit into the category of Christianity.
Tommi I think there's ample evidence for the man's existence, The Jesus Seminar scholars in particular. They are well worth reading. Also see John Dominic Crossan, JESUS: A REVOLUTIONARY BIOGRAPHY. It's a very important work.
Heidi while I am not a Christian, I have always found that ancient Jewish Wisdom Teacher fascinating.
Could it be that the "H" is to be seen in English text?In that case it could simply mean "Holy";but I like your comment for Frank,coming from a liberal humanist passing it on to one.
Hell if I know. ;) Jesus was a martyr.
Heidi The "H." appears in no religious text I know of.
Always thought the H stood for Holy.

Jesus was the name of the man
Christ was the title appelled to him, pre and post crucifixion.

Looking for records to "prove" Jesus of Nazareth's birth, life and death is about as useful as looking for records of Doctor Hosiah Elias Mennebaum in that time. Many people had children and the only records kept were actuarial head counts of the population in thier cities, so that the Kings could collect the "appropriate" level in human taxation.

Seriously doubt you'll find records of Joseph of Arimathea, or of John the Baptist, either if you're looking for "official" records of birth, death or activity beyond what's in the New Testament for the most part.

March 14, AD 12 records indicate:
17 Jews hung
4 Jews Crucified
27 Palestinian Suicides
54 Cows taken in taxes
87 Sheep taken in taxes
34 Goats taken in taxes
134 Prisoners sent to Salt Mines

I seriously doubt any government official was concerned with the names of anyone that wasn't already well known -- or a citizen of Pax Romana.

Jesus H. Christ, what a mess I bet it was.

-r-
I have to run,but your blog is like glue.
Yes,I agree with you:Jesus is a very fascinating figure,as well as Elijah and others.-R-:16
Dun well, yes: Crucifixion was as common in the empire as breathing. I agree there was No Trial, No Betrayal. Just a routine Roman picking up of a yet another Judean, this one a good man, who, against Roman law, may have caused a disturbance in the Temple Precinct at a Festival (Passover, in this case) and was routinely hung on a tree.
His love for mankind was His gift. What's not to like about a man sacrificing himself for others' betterment.
B. I've no idea if his death was a willful sacrifice on his part or no; I do know that he was a brilliant, charismatic wisdom teacher whose basic message(s) deserve a hearing.
Jiminy Crikets. You just learn so much coming here.
Cred I'm just a cornacopia of vital wisdom... ... ...
Boy, those Romans - 9 crucifixions a week average. Not to mention human torches for dinner parties and lots of other wonderful stuff. We (Oakland police notwithstanding) live in much better times.

P.S. - some of the reputed Jesus's teachings were good, but some were a little questionable - like denouncing your family and following him (sounds kinda cultish...)
Myriad best evidence is that he did not advise families to split over devotion to him that was a later add-on by writers ([laced in his mouth) well after he died.

And that 9 crucifixions per week...that was in Judea alone.
It stands for Harold, as in the Lord's Prayer, Our Father who art in heaven, Harold be thy name....

Actually, since Latin class when I was 13, I've known it is the Middle initial of his "monogram in Greek"- Iota- eta- sigma (Ιησούς) ) - that is I. (J) H. C. (S)
(Iesus Hominum Salvator) as often given in Latin

This symbol IHS or IHC is a very common Christian Icon
Also seen as JHS or JHC by different denominations. If his "initials" are JHC of course he's Jesus H Christ.

More theories:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesus_H._Christ
http://www.straightdope.com/columns/read/30/why-do-folks-say-jesus-h-christ
Token Thanks. I still love my explanation most! :)
A variation on the attempt to interpret church icons, in the same vein, is that I've often been told with utter assurance that IHS means "In His Service" .....
Token now THAT one I had not heard. Thanks!
B. I've no idea if his death was a willful sacrifice on his part or no; I do know that he was a brilliant, charismatic wisdom teacher whose basic message(s) deserve a hearing.
Jonathan Wolfman
October 27, 2011 11:04 AM
Jonathan,I love the way you said this.
Yes,he was brilliant,and that is always hard,very hard to accept by people who are average or less.
I don't think it was willful sacrifice.He saw himself as the son of G'd and behaved according to the belief of the time.He is quoted as saying: Matthew 26,39
Jesus is a imaginary icon created by early Christans canvassers.Without miraculous Icon how can thy manipulated mind of crudious people?.All founder of religion used varieties of tactics to win the mandate of people.
Heidi there's no evidence in the sense of what we call historical evidence that he saw himself as God's son.

The Gospels and the Torah are not history in any sense of how historians use the word.

Devotional works and works of religious instruction (as Torah is) is not hiatory as we use the term.
IHS can't mean "In his service"because the Bible was written in Aramaic,later Greek,much later into different translations.
Tell Frank Apisa he should listen to Alan Sherman:

"Oh! Wouldst I could kick the habit
And give up smoting for good."
Jonathan,no one really knows.
Jesus is supposed to have been in India.I heard this from poeple saying that he taught in the Himalaian Region.
I don't have the desire to prove anything,how could I.What I do believe is that there is a connection between Haven and Earth.Any one can experience this, and in this respect we are,each one of us,successors of Jesus Christ.
@Heidi

That's kind of the point- I can still remember when I was a child in the '50's in a German pert of Ohioi, my friend's grandmother would assure us that God was German, because the Bible is in German.
@Heidi

PS- You don't have to justify your beliefs to anyone, The Presidents of the United States are all largely mythological creatures. That you believe in what you view as truth is all that is necessary. God and Christianity are not of the past, but of current faith and feeling.
Hank. Jesus Hank Christ.

Jonathan, you inspired me to blog on this topic. Thank you.
Stim I look forward to it.
I know where H comes from...

"Our father who art in heaven... Howard by thy name..."..
What's the H. really stand for?

Rated/Buddy
Buddy no one appears to know.
(C)haim?, Hymie?, Henry?,Herschel?,Hy(as in "Lit")?Honore'(as in Balzac)?

Just being silly!

Good post!

Again,
Buddy
Clearly you took a far more historic and scholarly approach to this subject. For a giggle, revisit my August 11, 2009 post, "What does the "H" stand for in Jesus H Christ?"

http://open.salon.com/blog/just_cathy/2009/09/11/what_does_the_h_stand_for_in_jesus_h_christ

???

This post (this being, yours) is far superior and heck, what does an old Catholic girl know of these things! Great post, Jon...and wouldn't ya know...great and deranged minds think alike! ;)
Bless you, my child
- JW S.J.
H? In these parts of the south I often hear him referred to as Jesus F Christ. I think it's spelled Jesus Effin Christ. Must be a southern thing.
The H comes after centuries of bias by lesser creatures than the Irish. The real name is Jesus O'Nazareth.
I've always wondered about this. I mean, why not Jesus K. Christ? or Jesus X. Christ?

But as another person who's second initial is H. I think I can handle it.

rated!
I think the "H" is used to replace the "F" word, but what do I know I'm just a dumb Catholic. Btw, your responses to the comments sound pretty messiah-ish. R
This is such a funny post Jon! Where do you get your material???
I never knew that! Excellent!
Trudge Thank you, My son.
Susie I am a Student O' The Absurd.
These days Hussein seems fashionable.
Jan and it has the advantage of being a Near Eastern name!
Jonathan thank you for the fun party you initiated.

"Bless you, my child"
" Joanie Oh Dear! You...YOU are a J.H. ... ... ... :)"
"Trudge Thank you, My son."
"Susie I am a Student O' The Absurd."


"Hallelujah?"
Matt Paust

HALLELLUJAH

Thank you everyone.It was great fun!!!





"The H comes after centuries of bias by lesser creatures than the Irish. The real name is Jesus O'Nazareth."
Paul J. O'Rourke

"Paul O'Course!"

Paul I wish I had the Irish humor!!!First prize here at Jonathan's fun party.