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JANUARY 14, 2011 5:19PM

Why I Ignored My Own Advice

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The Westboro Baptist Church makes me sick. Sicker than most any group around right now. 

I tell people to ignore them. Don't give them the attention they are seeking.

So here is why I found myself at their latest protest today in Washington, D.C.

 I heard Edmund Burke in the shower.

"All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing."

Edmund Burke's words sprang into my consciousness as I got ready for the day. All week I had planned to ignore their hatred and idiotic antics when I learned they would be at American University this Friday. I held onto my belief that the counter protesters are just giving Fred Phelps and his ilk huge evil hard-ons. And I wasn't going to give them the satisfaction.

"All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing."

The thought would not leave my head.  

This afternoon, I ignored my own advice.

I joined the counter protest.

 

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I arrived on the American University campus to see a few hundred students listening to an acapella group singing and a speaker imploring the students to stand in solidarity, but with their backs to the WBC. 

I was teary-eyed as I listened to them.  So many people who believe that good will triumph over evil. 

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It is hard to see the words, but this girl's sign says she was expecting Michael Phelps.

DSC_0549 There were people watching from the roof.

DSC_0554 There were angels in the field

DSC_0556 And mere mortals in the snow...

DSC_0559 Just people, not allowing evil to win.

DSC_0562 At least for one day, evil doesn't win...

DSC_0561 At least for one day, good is funny too.

DSC_0560 And for one day,  good men and women gathered to do something.

The students at American University did a good thing today.

Edmund Burke would be proud. 

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go you. (and all the voices of sanity)
This was so cool and moving. Right on, American University students! Thanks for bringing us the story and the great photos - AND a protest poster referencing "Mean Girls" to boot! R!!!!
Good one Joan. (I know it was cold too...)
I saw this morning you were thinking about it.I am so glad you went.
HUGGGGGGGGGGGGG
Good for you "all" Joan
Gotta hate the figs, but gotta love em too!! Boohoohoo!!

What? :D

Great piece, great day.

Rated.
I'm proud of you. Our generation needs to take Burke's words to heart.
Our own angel that is Joan H. Good on you for going.

I just read a compelling piece by a lawyer who claims Phelps does not believe his own crappola, but is an opportunist, setting up ideal conditions for his assault and resulting lawsuits that earn him money. Apparently his entire family are lawyers, a fact that gets lost in the sensationalism. This writer's argument points made complete sense and I wonder if we will begin to hear more on this angle.
somehow, Joanie, I had a feeling you wouldn't be able to stay away.
You did a good thing too. Thanks for going and sharing it with us.
"The students at American University did a good thing today."
And so did you.
I almost wrote a comment to your FB status saying, "I vote for ignore." But then I erased it b/c I knew that *I* wouldn't ignore them, so what kind of a hypocrite was I to tell you to stay away? Thanks for the pictures. They are heartening.
"And for one day, good men and women gathered to do something."
joan... you give me hope. thank you.
Thanks for going, and for the good reporting, Joanie H...You rock!
Perfect. Ignoring doesn't work, so good for you and all the others.
Weren't you afraid the figs would get you? Brave woman!
Thanks for the photos from the front lines, and good on you for doing what is right. Ignoring evil will not make it go away.
This makes me cry. I'm SO glad you went. Putting on Facebook. RRRRRRRRRRR
"Ignoring evil will not make it go away." (nanatehay)
I have no words. You used them all. Magnificent.
You're the best, Joan. Thank you for doing this. Westboro's antics make me ill. We must continue to speak and act and live with a conscience and decency that defies what they stand for. Great story - great action. R
Good for you for showing up and supporting the sane side.
Phelps and his entourage came to Provincetown to protest the homosexual lifestyle. The town told us to completely ignore them. No one paid attention. It started to rain. They went home.
If only they would stay home.
R
Good for everyone who turned out! We've got to push back against the crazies and let them know they ARE crazy.

rated
Good go'n Joan. Proud of ya!
The sad thing is they probably have tax exempt status (which means we're subsidizing them.)
Good for you for going!
Edmund Burke could not possibly be as proud as I am of you, Joanie.
Atta girl!

Lezlie
Clever kids. Thanks for sharing!
That's awesome Joan! I do wish the media would agree to stop referring to them as a "church" -- they are not a church. Surely there's a better way to describe them as a group. Maybe just "the Westboro group."
"The Westboro Baptist Church makes me sick. Sicker than most any group around right now. I tell people to ignore them. Don't give them the attention they are seeking."

If they're making you sick, you should ignore them, too. Yeah, I know what Edmund Burke said, but give it some thought. According to him, if good men didn't fight evil, we'd all be evil and there'd be no fight. Edmund Burke was a warmonger. And a moral authoritarian. If he was my guide, I'd be sick, too.
I wonder where they'll go when they croak - they won't even be welcome in hell.
thanks for going, joanie, and taking pics to show us.

oh, and jeff said it best, which you obviously caught before i got here. good on you both.
What was your advice? I forget.
Yay for ALL of you!!!!
Awesome!

They can be beaten.

With Reason
With Love.
Ya did good, miss joanie
Did you dress for warmth?


`R
"I hate sin too!
And cosine
And tangent!"

So cool that you went against your own advice to be there, witness and report!
Excellent. That's a great quote for all of us to put up on our refrigerators to see every day.
He would be proud. As I am proud of you.
So happy you were there to support them.
rated with love
Brought tears to my very, very cynical eyes. Thank you, dear.
R
I loved this. Sometimes you just can't stand silently by.
Yes, sometimes you do need to stand up and say something. It is hard to continue to hear the spouting of the hate and vitriol. What I like best is that they said it with love. Thank you for sharing with us.
Hurray! Great post and thank you very much for going!
Good for you for going. I love the signs and the good people who showed up. I especially like, "Standing on the side of love."
Thank you for sharing your pictures.
Good on ya, Joan.

I watched an interesting BBC documentary on the WBC (you can find it on YouTube; the title is "The Most Hated Family in America"), but the most revealing thing I've seen about the church/family is a surrealist/absurdist counter-protest where the counter-protestors out-media'd the WBC by attracting attention away from the church members, rather than arguing with them.

It looks as though the group you joined did something similar.

Brava!

R
You deserve to be proud of yourself. Giant HUG!
Thank you for going, reporting, and bringing us pictures! Our local news did an investigative report last night on Westboro, complete with interviews. Most of the congregation is related if not by blood, by marriage and children. The "congregation" is small and the sermons are hate-filled. They call the deaths of soldiers and this recent tragedy love letters from God and quotes something Biblical from the Old Testament. They are insane! I was disgusted by the report, both content and that they did it. However, what those kids did today was the way to go! Good on you!
Glad you attended and left this witness. Loved the youngsters and their signs...sins. Good juju prevails. My baby worked long hours at the Katzen for 2 yrs. This was a wonderful end to a long day. I hope that more people will be standing up and speaking out for reason. ;}
Thanks Joanie!
Good on you Joan. But something troubles me about the Westies. Not the obvious, I mean, how deranged must you be to protest a funeral? Of a serviceman? And to do so NOT because you oppose the war? It's like they're too obvious and easy a target.

News to me they're a family of lawyers and thanks to greenheron for the info.
Thank you for being there.
Good on you Joan. Words to be remembered.
I like the smattering of angels throughout...The ones with wings and the ones without.

Thank you for reporting on the goodness there.
Awesome awesome awesome..... Very nice...
You did good too, joanie. Bless you.
We took a vote Joanie... you're now an honorary dyke. :~D

Thanks for being there for the rest of us.

BTW, a pretty smart dude had something to say about what you did, too:

History will have to record that the greatest tragedy of this period of social transition was not the strident clamor of the bad people, but the appalling silence of the good people.
Martin Luther King, Jr.
@ Amy~ I am honored.
And what perfect words for today...MLK's birthday.

Thank you to everyone who took the time to read this and comment. Epiphanies can come to anyone, anywhere. Even in the shower. :)
and math was funny!
terrific stuff
Joan, this is great photo essay on contemporary politics and it was wonderful to see how many showed up for the counter protest!
Go team! A step at a time toward the light.
Awesome!
You did the right thing and are leading by example.
Thank you Joan, you are inspiring.
Glad they stayed with you instead of showing up at the funeral of that beautiful 9-year-old girl who was killed here last weekend. They were supposed to show up here with signs saying that the shooting proved that God was angry with us for our sins, and had taken her life to get our attention. Seriously.

It's kind of a good thing he didn't show up, because there were hundreds of people lined up on the street by the church, some wearing huge angel wings designed to shield the family from seeing those signs, others...well, this ID Arizona, so they were ready to rumble if necessary. Big old bikers were there, waiting to make sure there were no signs, and to clear a path for the family if necessary.

Wasn't necessary. I guess they stayed over your way. And I'm glad you were there--we're going to have to start being more visible at these things, so that it's not quite so easy for people like this to keep spewing hate and thinking the whole country agrees with them.
adding your voice to the counter protest
no photo coverage or description of the wackos in your post
very well played, joan
thank you!
Good move, Joan.
And, what the tall green bird had to say about phony phelps is interesting.
Wanna hear more on that.
Your post about your action inspired me to write this stanza, then I wrote a story around it about evil and justice.

Evil men will triumph through violence
only if good men do nothing to fight
for sometimes we must use violence
to protect people and ensure justice rules
from temple of Zeos on Mount Zion.
Yes! Sometimes out of control children need to be set down and made to suffer through a time out.

That group of train wrecks will only get more obnoxious until they get the attention that they seek. I am glad that they got some that they did not seek.
this was wonderful. thanks for sharing it. a peaceful protest full of love is a great antidote to Phelps and his kind.
Joan, how did I not know this was going on? I so would've been there. Glad you were and I'm proud of you for taking a stand. There comes a time when passivity doesn't accomplish anything and this really was a great thing.
Thank God for freedom of speech. That would have been interesting to witness. The beliefs from points of view. Good job!
I loved seeing all those beautiful people standing on the side of LOVE! Thank you.
Good for you, Joan. I had a similar experience recently and like you I refuse to sit quietly and do nothing to stop the spreading of hatred.
There are so many ways we can stand witness to the side of good. Have you ever noticed that just looking at someone speaking idiocy, not saying a word, just looking at them with a blank stare can make them self conscious and uncomfortable in their own idiocy? Like the mother smacking her kid at the market, the man berating his girlfriend. Glad you made it and renewed.
And you did a good thing by giving us this post, Joan, and by adding your voice to the chorus protesting the mongering of hate. The Westboro folks scare me and disappoint me: it is so easy, so very easy, to pitch one's tent in the doctrinal camp of some belief system or other; but it is so very hard, and therefore imperative, that we assess ourselves, honestly--honestly, about what we believe and why we believe it.
And to think I didn't believe in angels.
Good on ya'. They need to be shown that they are disagreed with and that they are outnumbered. Thank you for being a part of that.
I'm not a Baptist, but I'm guessing that Westboro Baptist Church is a huge source of embarrassment for most Baptists.

R
I think this kind of counter protest is necessary and important. Good for you Joan and I love that quote. Yes, ignoring trolls is a good thing, but this group is so beyond complete and total insanity, it's unfortunately harmful. The counter is a great idea. I see those young people with those hateful signs with big smiles on their faces, and I honestly would love to just sit down in a room with them and hear them out, despite my own inner angry reactions. They must feel completely and totally unloved.
They are a bunch of the craziest demonstrators out there. GOing to military funerals to protest gays in the military. Real sensitive to families whos children just died serving their country.
I love the angel photo.
This is terrific AND I took the rates to 100.

What I like best about it is that it or something like it seems to happen wherever these freaks go now. There are many, many good people out there. Most of us, I think.

My favorite was the one where the bikers gunned their loud engines whenever the freaks started their yelling, completely drowning them out.
Good job Joan. Great reporting and awesome photos. Thank you for attending.
Supporting a good rally is always cause for support.
I enjoy your photo journals. Seeing the woman w/wings and the other one with the joke placard made me think resistance should include more "theater" like that. if folks are laughing, they're not hating (hopefully)...
Thanks for going and posting the pics ... It is nice to now that some people well react with more then talk in express dislike of evil.
This was inspiring, Joan.
I'm glad you went!!!
PERFECT! He shouts. Watching is huge. And not celebrated enough.
Warms my heart to see so many young people fighting the good fight! WBC is a group of haters financed by the Right Wing. No small Baptist church has the money to send a busload all over the nation! They're financed by the Koch brothers or other Fascists of the Wealthy Ruling Class.

And here's another great bit of wisdom: "If you're not part of the solution, then you're part of the problem!"
You are and will always be one of my heros, Joan. Beautiful piece written and captured with a brave hand and heart.
@littlewillie: Actually, they are not associated with any of the Baptist denominations. They are their own freakshow.
you're one of my heroes joan, as is all who stand against hatred and ignorance. Thank you for listening to that quiet voice reaching out from ages past.
Thanks for going and sharing the photos. Every time I encounter the WBC I think of one of my very favorite quotes from Anne Lamott, "You can safely assume that you’ve created God in your own image when it turns out that God hates all the same people you do.

Read more: Anne Lamott observed, "You can safely assume that you’ve created God in your own image when it turns out that God hates all the same people you do."
A huge thank you for attending on behalf of so many of us . . . and for blogging it here.
I just want to say thank you again to everyone who read and commented on my post. I appreciate it so much. This "epiphany" I had about not ignoring evil was (at the risk of sounding really pretentious) life altering. I think it is up to each one of us to stand against evil no matter how small the act itself may seem. I know I did not change the minds or hearts of the evil Westboro people, but I didn't stay home either. I realized that my presence there was necessary, along with all the other good people that day in that city.
I keep remembering what nantehay said in his comment: "Ignoring evil will not make it go away."