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Jodi Kasten

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FEBRUARY 22, 2009 12:54PM

The Real Housewives of OpenSalon

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Like comparing apples to oranges...  

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Forgive me, Lord - for I have gone meta.

This morning, over my frozen waffles and reheated coffee, I checked my email and dutifully read the Salon Newsletter. The above-the-fold article, which I don’t normally read because I don’t “know” those people over at the MotherShip, was about television shows. Particularly, it was about The Real Housewives of Orange County and New York.

I began by feeling superior, before ever reading the content, because when you click on MY blog, you don’t get a screensaver advertisement popup. This makes me classier than my financially compensated brethren over at BigSalon. I understand that this is our version of our mothers telling us the popular kids pick on us because they know we are prettier and smarter. Probably not true, but comforting nonetheless.

As I read the article, Heather Havrilesky (who I am quite aware is prettier and smarter than I am) postulated that the reason that the Real Housewives are entertaining is that they claim to be one thing then prove themselves to be the exact opposite. Examples of this include the Orange County housewives being leathery old bats while pretending to be teenage sex princesses and the New York wives being class-obsessed bitches who fight like they are on an extended version of Jerry Springer.

This brought me to the question: What about the Real Housewives of OS? Who are we? What do we believe? How does who we are and what we believe color what we write and how we interact with our peers?

The shocking thing about OpenSalon is that we have vanquished sexism. Well… sort of. The women here are held in such high regard that if a man came in here and told me I couldn’t be president because I had a vagina, that man would be drawn, quartered and fed to Lulu and Phoebe. All I would have to do is sit back and look precious. But, on the other hand, I think men and women here are hyper-vigilant about their words when it comes to sex roles. Some truth is inevitably lost in self-censorship.

Racism isn’t very popular around here, either. I don’t believe that we have a population proportional ratio of minorities, but posters like purpleinflorida and teendoc are loved and respected. We at least try to welcome everyone with open arms.

The –ism we do have here is partyism. This is a liberal site, MamaSalon is liberal, we were drawn here because we’re liberals and we’ve been roundly condemned at times for not wanting to hear “the other side”. There came a point around Halloween where if I heard the words “echo chamber” one more time I was going to run naked and screaming into the street. But, most of those among us who list a little to starboard understand that differences of opinion do not equal personal attacks.

Politics aside, I think we’re doing pretty well. Can OS survive? Of course! We have our little blips, but I think we’re a strong community.

But, what about the Housewives? It seems like only yesterday that I was accused of being “programmed” to want to be a housewife by a misogynistic and oppressive society. OpenSalon is the only place which raises its collective eyebrow at me when I state that I want to stay at home with my children and play house for a few years. That said, the folks around here also remind me daily that I am worth finishing my degree and being the Mistress of the Dark Library Arts at some point in the future.

The OS “MamaSquad” has a lot to contribute as well. When I was a young mother, I gleaned most of what guided me through bulletin boards and websites. I never wondered how to change a diaper or whether or not to boil my crib sheets because there were women out there who were sharing their own experiences. I was not alone. There are plenty of young women with new babies around OS that gain knowledge and strength from those of us who have been where they are now - and vice versa.

For example, I am a worrier. (You know this) The SmallBoyChild isn’t talking the way he is supposed to be. He doesn’t like to be touched often and he is very independent. The pediatrician says he’s fine, but like any mom, I’m worried it might be more than his personality. But I know, without a doubt, if Pudge is diagnosed as being on the autism spectrum, I am not alone.

Being a mother is not just another job. There are no sick days, vacation, hazard pay, insurance, seminars or union. There have been times that I have posted pieces here that I thought would condemn me as a bad mother. But instead, I was met with support and love beyond measure.

The Real Housewives of OS ARE better than their televised counterparts. Going back to what Ms. Havrilesky said this morning – we are exactly who we seem to be. We are defined by the convictions we hold that the world SHOULD be a better place, but it isn’t. We are willing to do the work to get it there. Part of that work has been bonding together and supporting each other, even when it isn’t easy.

An OS “Housewife” doesn’t have to be a mother, a wife or a homemaker. She’s a person with the desire to break out of society’s bad habits of judgment and disapproval amongst women. She’s a person of grace, humor and humility. She’s challenged and thinking rather than obedient and accepting. Above all, she is funny. Whether met with cancer or autism, death or divorce, she’s ready to twist life out of shape then laugh at the ridiculousness of it all. She’s learned what the ladies of Bravo have not… she who tells the joke laughs best and is transformed to fight another day.

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This is for MyGirls... you know who you are.

I'm off to the Getting Place to search for a swing set for The Spawn.
I'll comment in a few hours.

Much love, ya'll.
Oh, and The Man reminded me not to forget The Men who have been awarded their honorary Manginas. (His word, not mine)
tell The Man that Manginas just now entered the vernacular in my neck of the woods.
Can I join the Real Housewives of OS, even though I'm not married, have no children, and live in a rented apartment instead of a house?

You have four kids, two of whom are preschoolers. Nothing wrong with wanting to stay home and concentrate on raising them for a few years. The library and the college ain't going anywhere. They'll still be there when the kids are grown.
Thank you for the last paragraph, Jodi. I am single and childless, but I'd like to count myself in your posse.
Do you mind if I say the words "echo chamber" repeatedly for a while?
'ready to twist life out of shape and then laugh at the ridiculousness of it all'

a snot-ridden, diaper-stained, burping, kidproofed amen!
Mangina. Ha! I'm currently under-employed by choice and actually quite content for the moment. But no matter what my state of affairs, I'd be happy to be considered an HoOS (that's "hoos, not hos"). Here's my thumb.
I have nothing but respect and admiration for the mothers and all the women of OS. I think you all set a very fine standard that would make the world a better place if all women were to uses the women here as role models. I think the same can be said for most of the men. and Manginas......... that there is a keeper that one. I'm with the Squirrel. That one's gonna stick. I love words I can use. Even if they're not really words.
What a wonderful meta post. I really like it when someone can write about what's right about OS. I'll be halfway through a complaint and find myself thinking, so why are you still here? Oh, right, if you can't get attention for how great your work is, you'll get it for what a whiner you are. I like being here, and I think being here has been good for me.
Now if we could just get Bravo to pick it up! (Lots of close-up shots of people around the country tapping furiously at their keyboards.) To keep up with the Housewives, we're going to need a helluva wardrobe budget though. Also, red motorcycles, Rolexes, and tennis lessons. In the next episode, we all make soup! (Hmm, this actually might be a good idea. Don't steal it you Hollywooders!) ::scurrying off to write treatment::
Ah, the Mangina. A lost piece of equipment, always needed. ;)

A great piece. Thank you for it. I feel the same way. Good to have people here who I can talk to about things they've already seen.
Omigosh! What a coincidence...when you come to my blog there is no screensaver advertiser pop-up either! As a real housewife of OS, I say well stated analysis. Thank you & rated. P.S. what does going meta mean?
I would like nothing more than to be able to afford to be a housewife, and based on that impossible desire, I shall choose from this moment forward to be a Housewife of OS.
Jodi you did it again. Posting your extreme good sense. I've always had a bone to pick with feminism when it clumsily diminishes the role and choices made by stay-at-home Moms. What, raising our next generation to the best of our ability and giving it our nearly full attention is not worthy work?! Of course it is, and no one does it perfectly - thus the empathy and understanding any honest Mom receives when speaking of "flaws." I used to be a stay-at-home Mom until economics forced me back to work.

I totally enjoyed your fresh look here, Jodi. Rated!
I'm one of those rare brown women at OS. I favor the Atlanta girls. Ne Ne is so wrong, yet so right. At least two of them have charitable foundations, and they set the gold standard for being interesting.

The Atlanta girls make the rest of them look ugly, trashy and sadly dressed.

But what is it about New York women that they have such outstanding figures? It can't all be from plastic surgery. Is it the stress?

I suspect that Atlanta is why the White ones are having so much ridiculous drama this season. They were probably told to step it up after the Atlanta girls showed them how.

But they didn't pay attention.
I spent 15 years as a housewife (and school/library/church volunteer because you can't say no when the need is there). The "kids" are now 21 and 22 and I've been working full-time since 2002.

It was hard and I wish I'd had the Net-based connections available now, to help me feel less alone then. My kids are terrific adults and we have an excellent relationship. My time with them didn't necessarily make them who they are, but it helped.

Props to all who work at being good parents. You have my total respect, especially on the days when nothing goes right.
"...that man would be drawn, quartered and fed to Lulu and Phoebe."

That's the second time this morning I spit milk out my nose. I have got to stop eating breakfast when I'm on OS.

Mangina would've done it too, but fortunately I'd given up on my cereal by that point. :D

As for Motherhood--let me put it this way: I have too much respect for all the responsibilities of motherhood to have ever tried it. I know I couldn't work that hard, which is just reinforced every day by the OS Moms.
I really like this positive post and the shout-out to the HWoOS.
One question: If the OS man has a Mangina does the OS woman have a Venis?
I agree....nothing was messier than the Real Housewives of Atlanta. I confess, I enjoyed the drama and can't wait for them to return for a second season. I heard that DeShawn wasn't invited back because she shows signs of lucidity and good mental health.
At the very least, the televised "Real Housewives" series whether in NY, Orange County or Altanta, offers significant comical relief from a bad work day. Thank God for small favors.
This was a delightful post, and if you read mine from yesterday you know it is very welcome and timely. Thank you so much. I've been mothering for more than 30 years and am ready to try something new.
Jodi - I love this. I especially appreciate your very real take on life, expectations, and judging others. I'm not a big fan or watcher of the Real Housewives series, but I saw enough of the first one to get a flavor of it.

I'd be proud to be counted as one of the Real Housewives of OS. I was going to quibble with your phrase "playing house" because, ya' know, raising the kids, cooking a decent meal, etc. is NOT "playing house" but then, again, sometimes I feel like Meredith in Grey's Anatomy - we're adults. when did that happen and how do we make it stop? - so I won't quibble, because I know what you mean.

I didn't leave my brain at 1801 K St. when I decided to stay home with my kids. And I'm no better or worse now that I'm working some. I think it takes a few years on either side of the fence to get perspective. I wish there weren't "sides," but having been on both and in-between, I think some of the "judging" is rooted in our (women's) insecurities sometimes about the choices we make.

ok, well that got long and deep. sorry. I just love OS in that one day I can write about politics, another about technology, and yet another about being a good-enough parent or dealing with my quite dysfunctional extended family and there is an audience who not only reads and gives feedback, but actually gets it and (seems to) appreciate that it is all a part of me.

thanks for a timely and wise post!

Lisa
You rock Jodi.

I have to admit to sometimes sneaking a peek at the Bravo Housewives of NY, OC, and ATL. On one hand, it's comforting to know that they're not all that much different than the rest of us. On the other hand--since they're not so different--it's kinda hard to figure out why they're all so much wealthier. What ev---HWoATL is the bomb.

I have no kids, though plenty of housework. Can I join HWoOS too?
Excellent post! I wish I had had the web and OS when I chose to work part-time and stay home with my children. For the shared wisdom and for the jokes, of course! Seriously, motherhood is not a phenomenon or a task, it's a desire and a joy (mostly!). So enjoy the Spawn and continue to share with us your Continuing Tales of Modern Maternal Artitude (sic) - please!
Great post, Jodi. Since I'm not married and do not have any spawn, can I at least be the "other woman" on OS (in a good way)? Marvelous, dahling.
Well I just flat out love this.
A beautiful post Jodi, I'm glad and honored to count you as a friend, as in, real life friend in spite of it all being 1s and 0s.

I know a little of what you're saying. I'm neither an exemplary father or a very good mother, though I have both of those titles and roles as imperfect as the implementation might have been. Though I say I'm an artist, and have made a little money over the years in doing custom millwork and cabinetry, artwork and photography, it's never been my job to bring home the bacon. That was the bride's job, as the CEO of a large multi million dollar national association. My job was to raise three kids and take care of hearth and home (much like lpsrocks describes) after giving up my position as vp of an architectural millwork firm here in Dallas. And the Dallas thing is not inconsequential as it was extraordinary, anomalous, in this place where it was all about making boatloads of money and how you looked and what expensive bangles, baubles and toys you displayed. But we made the decision, in some early painful compromises to income and lifestyle, that one of us had to stay home with the kids, volunteer in the schools and have dinner on the table. Some things worked out well, some not, but we made the right decision--for ourselves and for the kids. So far.

Beautiful post friend.
Jodi, I loved this post. I confess in the 15 years I stayed at home full-time with my 4 daughters, I always identified myself as a mother/educator. I never had the audacity to claim to be a housewife. My sister-in-law offered a fair evaluation--"your idea of domesticity is putting your books in alphabetical order."

I promise you that motherhood was a superb initiation into the dark arts of librarianship.
Speaking as a leathery old teenage sex princess, haunting the halls of OS, I have to say KUDO's my dear. Your writing is superb, and fun, and I so enjoyed this post.

PS My dad did not utter his first words until he was four. They were: "Stop that noise!" said to his mom as she was engaged in a futile attempt to sing him to sleep whilst on a train. When his astounded parents asked him why he didn't speak before, his reply was: "I didn't have anything to say."

Of course, he probably was somewhere on the autism spectrum (as I suspect am I). Never the less, he was a great dad who designed and built puppets and toys and filled my childhood with magic.
hee hee Sandra, if we want a Venus, does it mean we have, wait for it, wait for it, Venus envy?

groooannnn!
Great post Jodi! When I was young and stupid, I told my mother (who became an official house-wife once she had my oldest sister) that I wanted to be something more than just somebody's mother. How's that for a slap in her face? Yes, I've long since apologized. I've never had the opportunity to be a stay at home mom, nor do I think I have the patience for it. But I do love my daughter very much, and I think she's turning out very well despite my dreadful lack of domesticity. Being a mom/house-wife is one hell of a lot harder than being a good scientist, and one hell of a lot more rewarding! Thanks for spreading the word.
It would be nice if child care and housewife got the respect and money commiserate with the skill and focus the job requires. I don't know if I ever was a "housewife," but I worked from home, and I used to have a husband. Maybe if I were more of a wife, he would have stayed...naw, not worth it. Nice to be in the OS Women.
Great title. Great content. Great post, Jodi!
Love that you can write about women who choose to stay home with the kiddies for a few years, like a sabatical from work and school, a more normal view of this choice for mama warriors. It's enviable and such a gift to both the children and the mama. Works well for most daddy's, too. And that you qualified that we all do not need to necessarily be mothers, homemakers, etc...well, that entire last paragraph really sums it up perfectly for me, along with the necessary element of finding humor in all adversity. I relate to this most of all as I find myself saying things to people, like, "You'll have to forgive my sick sense of humor.." or the mantra I live by, while working, raising kids, now grandkids, the husband and the aging animals, "If I don't find humor in something everyday, I'd go freaking insane!" And, "Laughter keeps you young and healthy."
I have an 88 year old uncle who is the funniest, happiest and healthiest man I know. God bless him, he calls me about every 6 months and tells me jokes for about half an hour, which reminds me how precious a good sense of humor is in keeping you young.
Forgive the long tangent here. Loved your post!!!
Oh, man.
I don't even know what to say...
I normally respond to everyone individually, but I think that would be too gargantuan a task while trying to make dinner! I thought this would get lost in the Sunday doldrums!

I fully agree that "Mangina" needs to be integrated into our OSpeak! It is an honorary organ bestowed upon those of our male friends who patiently participate in conversations that other men would not. (We all know what hides beneath those giant squirrel nuts!)

This was inspired by the plain fact that if I needed something - and I mean TRULY needed something - I would come to my OpenFamily first. My world with The Man and Spawn is small. People scare me. I fear anyone ever being angry with me.

But, I'm getting better. I can "practice" being "normal" here with you fine people. Someday, I hope to meet most of you and that is a rare and precious feeling for me.

Women are frightening, even for other women. Having a group of people so open-minded, intelligent, charitable and confident has helped me in ways I never imagined. OS means more to me than any school, church or group of arbitrary friends I've ever had in my life. There are people here who are my REAL friends - not just 1's and 0's. ::ahem!::

Damn... I should get out more. When are we going to Vegas, people?!?

Thanks for your comments, everyone. It made my day!
I love you Jodi, just the way you are. "Normal" is way overrated in my opinion. And I love this special blend of folks that we hang out with here. Now I have to go find a way to use "Mangina" and "Venis" in a sentence as often as possible. :)
Well, I ain't no housefrau, but loved your article. Great job!
Thank you for this post. I'm still trying to wrap my head around the fact that I'm an adult woman now. (I'll be 21 in a month, when did that happen?) And I know I'm growing into the sort of angry, liberal feminist that my mother raised me to be, so it would seem I'm in good company here at OS!

My mother was also a housewife, and I'm constantly in awe of how she managed everything while I was growing up, and still developed such strong relationships with my brother and me. My hope is that the word "housewife" will stop being associated with the ladies of Bravo, and start being associated with intelligent, committed people like my mother. And maybe me one day, if that's what I decide to do.

(Said mother, by the way, is Floridagirl595, who commented up there. Hopefully she will not scroll down, because that would just be embarrassing.)

Also, I see you're from Jacksonville! I am, as well. Hope you don't mind if I add you - you're a great writer.
Thanks, Jodi! I've never been designated a housewife before. The road less travelled appealed to me in contrast to what I saw Mother and Grammy and Grandmother tethered to. I blamed myself for having a hormonal deficiency. I never had children because I consider all the children of the world to be mine.
this is great. there are so many outstanding women on here. thank you for this. i'm a widow with stepkids who live far away, but i too would love to be included with the Housewives. love love love
(1) I like the Atlanta gals best ... they may not have a countess, but they ring as really authentic ... I bet NeNe would beat your ass just for not mentioning her in this post by name ... in real life ... (I hope she doesn't read this ...)

(2) Mangina ... hahahahah!!! Venis ... hahahahaha!!!

(3) This is absolutely wonderful. I'm a stay-at-homer, you know ... but only with the last two. I never thought I'd be able to do it because I like working ... I need to think about stuff, but I wouldn't trade the time I had with the twins for anything. I often wonder how different things would be if I could have stayed home with the first three ...

(4) Thanks Jodi :)
Jodi,
Very entertaining and true.

A mom recently announced to a group of us mothers, “If you cannot take a few years off from your ‘career’ when you have kids, then I am sorry, but you shouldn’t even have kids!” (She did air-quotes on the word career. Really.) I decided right then that I would not be friends with that woman, not because I agree or disagree with her, but because I don’t want to be friends with someone who is so judgmental.

Motherhood is hard enough without judgment by other mothers.
I'll take the mangina as long as I don't have to wear the manzier (or as Cosmo called it, the "Bro").

Thumbed.
Brava for sisterhood and support!

However, I'm struggling with the "housewife" name. If my house could talk, it would tell you I have very little loyalty to it at all. So I began to wonder why we couldn't just be the Real Women of OS, and then I began to wonder why we'd exclude the real men, and then I got really confused and had to go eat bonbons.
Loved it Jodi!

And like all housewives, I work from home.
I didn't mention Atlanta because I was responding to the Salon article which only mentioned the OC & NYC wives. A real oversight on my part, because the Atlanta women are a real trip. Plus, they are closer to me geographically. They are OUT of control, I love them! It's a real guilty pleasure.

Hey, I have Jacksonville peeps now! Woo hoo!
I just asked my husband if he had a Mangina. He threatened to take away my woman card!
OS is generally a tolerant place -- that is why those of us that want a more tolerant world are attracted to and continue to bond with other likeminded women and men here at OS. This is also why we get all crazy and out of balance when the naysayers come in to chip away at our happy world.

Recently, I was told I could not work in my office and continue to write on OS, well at least about things that are dear to my heart and soul. No more writing about racism or sexism -- only all real estate blogging all the time if I keep up my picture. Uhmmm -- what do I think of this -- not much but I am pretty much stick here due to my mortgage (out damned spot.)

So, I come here to read other people's thoughts and say "Yah, I am feelin' ya ". You have written about what is the best past of OS -- suppport of likeminded people for other souls wanting the best from ourselves and our world. What could possibly be better than that?
woohooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I am going to liveblog it at 10 pm, Tuesday, on Bravo.
Ladies and Gentlemen - the part of "Vicki" will be played by Ms. Elizabeth Priddy this evening.

Hee hee hee
Is there an OS PapaSquad? Quite a few of us OS men are professional daddies or the primary caregiver.

I guess I have a mangina by virtue of my daddying the hellspawn around. Is there a roadmap to my man-g-spot? Inquiring minds want to know.
Plus the REAL WOMEN of OS have not been lifted, tucked, smoothed, botoxed, and otherwised pummeled (sp?) into shapes not our own. Those women look awful. And we do not!!!!!!!!!
I am sorry it took me so long to get here because this is a perfect, uplifting, affirming post.

You are a good, brilliant, worthy woman who happens to be a fantastic writer. I believe in Hollywood, Orange County, or New York, that is referred to as the whole package.
I'm game for the O/S papa's. I know my kids are grown but that hasn't stopped me feeding them or even doing their laundry. Mangina? Dude what and where is that? The whole concept sounds a little sexist to me. We are who we are not just the class assigned by our genitals. We are who we are and that's all that we are. I call it the popeye philosophy. It lets me sneak past the stereotypes of gender and race and lets me be just me. Good stuff.
Can an homeless woman be an OS Housewife?
When I started hearing about the whole second workday issue, years ago, I kind of had to think, so if we make things equal, then that doesn't really solve the problem of the second workday for women, it just means that men and women both have one and a half workdays. That's kinda lame. Equality is not always the best policy.

But making women stay home just because they're women is obviously sexist and misogynistic.

So I'd like to say, I applaud your choice to stay at home and raise your children, just as I applaud BBD's choice to do the same. I really hope that if I am ever married and having kids, me or my spouse might be able to stay at home, and I hope we're smart enough to take a look at each of our careers and make a choice based on what's best for our family and not just do what people expect. I don't ever want to live a life where all I do is run myself ragged, with no time to enjoy the things I'm working so hard for.

I don't think that staying at home to take care of your family means you've been programmed by a misogynistic and oppressive society. I think it means you have good time and money management skills and understand what's most important to you and those you love.
I'm late on this. Jodi, you know where I'm at on it. I loved your line, "

"An OS “Housewife” doesn’t have to be a mother, a wife or a homemaker. She’s a person with the desire to break out of society’s bad habits of judgment and disapproval amongst women. She’s a person of grace, humor and humility. She’s challenged and thinking rather than obedient and accepting. Above all, she is funny. Whether met with cancer or autism, death or divorce, she’s ready to twist life out of shape then laugh at the ridiculousness of it all. She’s learned what the ladies of Bravo have not… she who tells the joke laughs best and is transformed to fight another day."

Quick question though: Do I get to join even though once/maybe twice a year, I use a teensyweensybitsybit of the marhvelous Botox that gets rid of my notso teensyweensybitsybit line that makes me look so angry? I really hope this doesn't disqualify me cuz I'm superficial enough to hate that line and I just can't quit my B fix.
Approved by this non-mother!

Funny, insightful and touching.
Oh my. I'm not sure the people close to me will be able to deal with the fact that I now know I have the power of a Mangina.
Mary - Just don't inject the ass fat of a clubbed baby seal into your lips like Kathie Lee Gifford. Yes, I'm going to keep using that line until I'm done laughing at it.

Lonnie - You, squirrel and Barry had Manginas before Manginas were cool. In fact, you may want to consider Maginal Lazar Rejuvination. ::ducking::
Great post - I had no idea there were so many stay-at-home parents on this site - it is actually perfect for us. I can stay "plugged in" a bit. OS during naps coupled with listening to NPR while the rug rats run around and I have an ok day. But you are also right about a bit too much liberalism on this site. At the end of the day sometimes I need a different perspective.
brilliant, Jodi! And just the sort of thing I needed to read this morning :).
Yah!

Time to take back the word "housewife" from Bravo's marketing department!

And about SmallBoyChild--if he's over age 2, call up your county's Early Intervention Program and request an evaluation. It's free, you don't need a referral from your pediatrician, and even if he's not on the spectrum, he may qualify for and benefit from services. My son didn't get an official diagnosis until age 6, but he's been getting special ed since age 3, which has been great.
Manginal Lazar Rejuvenation ... I hear there's a clinic in Jacksonville, right?
Back in the days when I had a blog in the old Salon Blog community, there were a few blogs that were about housekeeping, homemaking, etc., not entirely, but partly.

And, even though I had to go to work every day, I really enjoyed reading those blogs because they were like little vacations. I could virtually experience being at home. And best of all, I'd learn about things I would have missed entirely if left to my own devices.

I hope you post photos of the swing set.
Lonnie - Trust me, baby. Trust me.

ktm - Don't even get me started on the swing set. No one carries them anymore! You can't go BUY a swingset. You have to ORDER it. I hate that. Hate, hate, hate that. The Man and I are considering building one of our own. Now THAT will be one heckuva phlogging.
Does having 2 children in little cat suits qualify me as an OS hausfrau? And Freaky has CERTAINLY full of plastic enhancement! You cannot tell me she natural to you! Pah!
Very good..I don't like the cattiness of reality TV either. I'm not sure how I feel about manginas, though.
You tell 'em sister!
It is first of all a testament to you--our much loved Jodi--that so many of OS's finest and longest-standing members surfaced to comment on this. It also does a glorious job of illustrating what you are talking about--the support and thoughtfulness that can be found here and the lasting care we have for each other even when we are somewhat scarce around these parts.

Love you, too ;)