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MARCH 4, 2009 9:13AM

What IS too hot for Facebook? Evidently, ME!(Nudity Warning)

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Warning: Contains graphic nudity and blatant displays of lactation behavior 

Yesterday, MaryTKelly did a spectacular piece about young women being generally unladylike on Facebook. If Facebook is the new place to debase yourself as a woman and a repository for porn, it begs the question, what IS too offensive to post on Facebook?

I am.

Yes, I am too vulgar, too obscene and too nasty for Facebook.
Why?

Here’s one photo:

Pudge - 2009 

This one isn’t so bad. My face isn’t showing, my nipples aren’t showing, it’s tasteful.

Is it somehow more tasteful than this one?

Pudge and Me - 2009 

Here, I dare to show my face and, if you blow it up really large, you can see the tiniest trace of areola around the baby’s mouth. (!)

In the past, Facebook has accepted advertising from topless models, shown millions (I’m not exaggerating) of photos of young women topless in thongs and bikinis and you can see thousands of couples in various stages of… we’ll call it “lovemaking”.

From the UK Times Online:
Barry Schnitt, a Facebook spokesman, said the website takes no action over most breast-feeding photos because they follow the site's terms of use.

"We agree that breast-feeding is natural and beautiful and we're very glad to know that it is so important to some mothers to share this experience with others on Facebook.'' But, he added, some photos were removed to ensure the site remains safe and secure for all users, including children.

"Photos containing a fully exposed breast - as defined by showing the nipple or areola - do violate those terms on obscene, pornographic or sexually explicit material and may be removed," he said in a statement. "The photos we act upon are almost exclusively brought to our attention by other users who complain."

Let’s take a close look at the Facebook terms of service:

In addition, you agree not to use the Service or the Site to…upload, post, transmit, share, store or otherwise make available any content that we deem to be harmful, threatening, unlawful, defamatory, infringing, abusive, inflammatory, harassing, vulgar, obscene, fraudulent, invasive of privacy or publicity rights, hateful, or racially, ethnically or otherwise objectionable;

I didn’t see the words “nipple” or “areola” in there, did you?

Thousands of women are posting their nursing photos to Facebook right now, protesting the categorization of breastfeeding as vulgar. I’m one of them and I’m proud of it.

You may be asking yourself why I would WANT to show my breasts to the world. In short, I am proud. There isn’t much in this world I feel like I’ve done right. I’ve never been published, finished college or won a Pulitzer. But, I did this RIGHT. I nursed my baby for the two years recommended by the World Health Organization. I wasn't able to do that with my other three children, so I certainly don't judge anyone who doesn't breastfeed.

The time I’ve spent actually connected with my son will be a memory I cherish for the rest of my life. Why post a photo of yourself at Disney World or the Grand Canyon? Probably because you want to show your friends and family where you have been and the great memory you experienced.

Why should an innocent photo of me nursing my baby be any different?

I am not someone brave enough to sit down and nurse at the mall or the grocery store. But, on my personal Facebook profile, if you don’t want to see my breasts, you don’t have to do so. I’m not forcing you.

Perhaps this would be easier to take if I wore a thong?

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Ventis secundis, dude.

Bump!
now THAT'S what i call lactation behavior.
Just horrifying, isn't it?
LOL
I've never understood the whole brou ha ha attached to breast feeding. Maybe I'm missing a gene that makes any exposure to breawsts sexual. I like them, in the right circumstance I find them very arousing. Niether photo here is in any way more than simple feeding. Don't take this wrong, I'm sure that you have marvelous breasts. The whole thing with facebook is that some people can't see any part of the anatomy without being sexually aroused. There is also the unfortunate fact that a lot of people are so puritanical that they wwould love nothing more than to return to the days of Queen Victoria.
If the blond guy in the picture was 25 rather than 2, it would probably be way more appropriate for facebook.
My wife didn't breast feed, but we have some similar photos. :-D
RATED!!!
Favorable winds. Facebook sure has been drawing the bad press lately. They will crumble on this issue. monkey fingered.
I am shocked and dismayed. Imagine! A mother giving a child what it needs to be safe and healthy. I am appalled at the behavior. And to post it on Facebook to share your experience of motherhood with your friends and family? You are seriously sick, lady!
America is so fucked up about breasts. For god sakes, nursing is what they were designed by nature to do. I used to nurse at town hall meetings when I was a councilor--made for quiet peaceful meetings.
Good on you for posting with the other women. I think that some men just got weaned too soon or just got the bottle...
bobbot - It is as if people cannot intellectually handle the idea of CONTEXT.

Geoff - You made me snort coffee!

Blue - ::gigglesnort::

BBE - They can't delete them all. Mine are just a drop in the ocean.

AnnMarie - I'm such a rebel! I feel all dangerous and feminist!
Oh! btw, Your pictures are beautiful and make me remember those lovely days of closeness.
Bravo. I have thought of posting 25-35 year old pictures of my nursing on Facebook. When my first daughter was born in NYC in 1973, I realized learning to breastfeed in public was essential. I had no car to hide in. Five days after she was born, I talk her for a walk and nursed her in Riverside Park and Central Park. I was always excessively modest so this was difficult, but I made myself do it. It got much easier. I was very discreet and no one ever hassled me.
Gorgeous photos, Jodi, and adorable child. (And this is kind of unrelated, but oh my goodness you have the most beautiful hair! Oh what I would give for hair like yours!)

I wish I could give this post two thumbs: one for each of the two kids that I breastfed for over two years.
What an incorrigible bad influence you are. Well, not you. That spectacular rack that's sadly obscured by a small boy.

This is an idiotic issue and FB would do well to back down pronto, as they did with their TOS.
steph - Thanks. The Man took these photos. I was very pleased with them.

Mary - I remember seeing one of your photos with your SmallGirlChild, first born if memory serves. I actually had that in mind when I did this.

Marple - That hair color doesn't occur naturally in nature. ;) You can see my natural (disturbingly blonde) hair color here.
Be careful snorting coffee, you wouldn't want to burn the little guy or his bodacious breakfast boob.
Beautiful pics, Jodi! I nursed my daughters, and I had some of the most profound feelings I've ever had. I would strongly recommend anyone at least trying it. Well, not anyone, but you know what I mean. And Facebook, well they have issues
Rated for areolas eveywhere!
Denise - I agree that the issue is childish and stupid. And ::blush::!

Geoff - All done until bedtime. We're actually trying to quit. Maybe this post would have been better for addiction week.
I would just LOVE to see this as an ad for "Got Milk?" . Not only the photo, but the entire piece. You are one beautiful (and smart) woman. I'll utter that 'till the cows come home. Rated.
Beautiful. Each day I am lucky. I get to see my West Virginia daughter-in-law breast feed. I don't gaze too long. It's such a pleasant peek. I remember when my first son was born. My infant offspring son, naturally went to feed. He loved the plump, and the squirting, Mother's breast nipple.

I got tears. The sense of my capability at participating in new Life so exhilarated me. I was overcome with unspeakable, Joy. The gentle wonder, warmth, the wet baby, the moisture ... Then, I feel I must say this:` Vietnam, Viet Nam, Vietnam, war's pain ... in my gut, with no warning: `In my depth of belly ... nausea began to interrupt the amazing Feast...
It's not easy to explain...
I later had to stroll away.
I wandered toward the outdoor and wept. O happy tears, and the memory of premature war carnage. Death mingled with my sense of happy joys. Death. Life!
Thanks for sharing images.
I am misty eyed. Darn. Beauty.
You are so darn lovely, O mommy.
My Granddaughter says:`Pa Pa, it's okay to look, but not to stare too long.
To be breast fed, must be comparable to enjoying a peach scone with raw goat, goo yummy, latte? Sativa.
I mean:`If Ya the goat-geezer elders, Calm.
wonderful pictures! and an excellent cause. :)
I agree, a thong would have made it more racy; but if anyone object to pics of mothers nursing, then they have a problem with more than lactation. Very tastefully done.
I love your breastfeeding pictures, Jodi. Can I "friend" you? (How language changes...) I too breast-fed my youngest until she was two and a half. It was a wonderful, close, intimate experience and I don't regret it one minute. She is my only kid, as an adult, who actually seems to fall asleep at night instead of sleeping all day and awake all night. (Thank God for night shifts!) I always wanted a picture of her breastfeeding, but never got one...this was twenty-three years ago. If I had one, I'd post it. I breast-fed my twins, sometimes both at the same time. And I fed tastefully in restaurants, parks, or where ever, with a baby blanket over me and the baby. Most people didn't know, and those who did gave me a sweet smile. Although it did mean I had to be the one to get up every feeding every night, it was the original "fast food," low emitions," green, locally manufactured, and cheap. No plastics used here, no cows fed, or boxes transported. Excellent choice, Jodi! I applaud you for your essay, and your courage.
Toochie - Oh, I can see THAT ad in Better Homes & Gardens!

Arthur - As always... puzzling.

Odette - I don't show the goods for anything but the most special of occasions.

dynomyte - I do think that this issue is about more than breastfeeding. It's about blind morality instead of ethics. It's somehow better to show your breasts at a frat party because "that's what they are for". I'm no Nursing Nazi, but I think I should have the right to do this.

C - You don't have to ASK! :) Of course you can! Maybe that is what I should have named this piece... "Reducing my carbon footprint with my ta-tas."
Silly Jodi.

Don't you know that tits aren't for kids?

(Lovely photos, gorgeous kid!)
Jodi, you should send that slogan to savethetatas.com. They have a whole array of t-shirts. (I have the oval bumper sticker, myself.)
Hey Jodi, I just "Facebook-ed" your post to my profile...with pictures. alet them try to delete that!
Jodi,
I salute your right to show you breastfeeding your child. I have similar photos. Hell, I got so used to breast-feeding in public that I could walk down a grocery store aisle, a babe attached to the boob, pushing a shopping cart and grabbing stuff with my one free hand.

I did have a couple of problems. One guy asked me, "Can I be next?"
And I got kicked out of a museum in Washington DC by a security guard. I was breastfeeding my infant on a 100 degree day. I had stripped her down to her diaper, and we were walking around the coolness of the art museum, looking at artwork of nude women. The guard kicked me out. Why? I'm not making this up: BECAUSE MY INFANT WAS TOPLESS.
I knew what he was doing. I gave him an ass-whuppin' but I still got kicked out.
Yes. We have completely fucked up attitudes toward the female body.
Will we ever grow up?
C - SWEET! I didn't just add them to my profile, I put them on my WALL. (I actually didn't mean to do that, but now I'm all "Rebel Without a Clue" and stuff")

Lorraine - The BigBoyChild once got cited for a sexual offense at school when he was FIVE YEARS OLD. He left the bathroom and his pants fell down because he forgot to zip up. When the kids laughed, he did it again just to make them laugh harder. (I don't know where he gets that.)

He was suspended for three days and has a "sexual offense" in his permanent record(!). He never even dropped his undies. Love it.
We are messed up beyond control in this country.

Note to the ed's: Put it on the cover. Go ahead. I double dog dare you.
We have so far to go as a society---fascinating that Puritan behavior is perched on the "cutting edge" of technology.
I double dog dare too ... Put on Open Salon's front page.
Yes. Put also a dog-eared copy of 'Macbeth' ... huh ... Oy!
Puzzling? huh. My respect ... Life! ...
O. I visit used bookstore too... I eat peach scone there too?
And while I browse the cover of Lady Macbeth... I am happy.
Somewhere I have a photo of me nursing the twins in the football hold. David said it was too much to post and it is definitely a lot of boobage (twins, whatcha expect). But I may just have to dig it up and be bad, too (especially since it is my birthday and the man is going to be in meetings all day plus my truck is in the shop and I am stuck in a dirty house that I refuse to clean on principle).
I love you and your boobs.

Your little child is angelic. Breasts are how we fed our offspring for the entire history of mankind until about 50 years ago when a handful of envious doctors decided that they could make milk BETTER than the glands god gave us.

Idiots.
Lauren - Believe it or not, this IS the football hold. The little guy is so big he hardly fits anymore. :)

Elizabeth - Idiots, indeed.

new blog - If I wanted to simply show my breasts, I have plenty of other publishing options.
Sorry to hear the Facebook folks were such pricks about your pics. Facebook and Myspace are extraordinarily hypocritical in their approach and their enforcement of their rules, which is why Mary's post resonates so. I like both shots: you both have such lovely hair. But in answer to your rhetorical question, I'm also willing to take a look at you breastfeeding in a thong to, um, you know, compare.
Rich - I regret to inform you that a thong is not in my future. Trust me, it's better that way. ;)
Bravo, Jodi! Such a gorgeous child you have and beautiful photos. Am anxiously awaiting the birth of my second grandbaby, any day now.

Hey, got an idea for you and other interested mama's! "Nude Lactating Mamas.com!" Tastefully done, of course. Etu Facebook!
Maybe you should tell Facebook that MEN have nipples and areolas too, get 'em to take down all those shirtless pictures of guys.

Rated.
Leeandra - I agree, it's all about context. Then again, I also think men's legs are sexier than their chests. But, that's just me. ;)
Cathy - Congrats on the new baby! You'll have to show us pictures!
'Juggs' Kasten strikes again!

Sorry, I'll show myself out.
Grandjester - O.M.G. you get the prize for the most coffee snorted through my nose today! Kudos!
Jodi, your son is adorable! Beautiful boy...so this is what I don't get? Facebook is setting the standards for what "vulgar" is...what many people don't realize about my post are the pictures I didn't put in there. And there were literally hundreds I could have put in, but they were so graphic, some of the faces too recognizable, etc. etc. So, if those aren't vulgar, how in the world can a mother nursing her child be? Another thing I just don't get! I'm spending the week perplexed. Maybe if you nursed your baby while drinking from a beer bong it would be acceptable.
Oh, how I would love a beer.
A Guinness.
Dang near frozen.
Out of a GLASS.
Mmm.... I miss Guinness.

Ooh! You were saying?

Ah, Facebook. Yes.
There are a lot more disturbing things out there than my (or anyone else's) nursing photos.

Mommies Gone Wild!!!
Woo hoo!
Truly beautiful pictures and important post. I loved breast feeding. I whipped those babies (breasts) out anywhere and everywhere. If you didn't like seeing it, if you were squeamish, well, I thought, you should look away. Breast feeding was a part of my bond with my children. A start of a beautiful life together. A time when my heart felt happy and my mind was at ease.
MY EYES!!! MY EYES!!!! Seriously, you and all the other mothers have every right to be enraged at this right wing bulls**t. How dare these people take something as natural as breast feeding a baby and make it some how dirty. What is wrong with these folks? Get a fucking life people!
People are being raped and murdered and blown to bits all over the world and this is their contribution to make the world a better place? Give me a break. Breast of luck to you Jodi and breast feeding mothers everywhere. I'm 110% on your side.
you ... you, you, you ... LOL!!!

xoxo
Alex - I have to admit, I haven't been that brave. I know that seems counter-intuitive, considering the fact that I just plastered topless photos of myself all over the ether. But, I'm one of those people that can't take direct confrontation very well. Plus, I truly *wouldn't* want to make someone uncomfortable, even if it is their own hangup. I see that as something weak about myself, though.

Michael - Dude, I KNOW I'm pale, okay? Sheesh.
(thanks for the support;) (!)

Mom - Naw... YOU!!!
Did we stumble into some bizarre parallel universe? There is so much seductive crap on Facebook (from participants and from advertisers) yet breastfeeding photos are not allowed? Rage on, Jodi! (Your baby looks like a cherub in that photo. So precious!)
Lisa - Note that the photo is NOT on the cover.
That's okay.
I did a Snoopy Dance anyway.
I'm not proud.
I've got nothing on the Facebook thingie. But those pics make me oohh and ahh over the little baby faces drifted off in milk induced coma...
"Perhaps this would be easier to take if I wore a thong?"
That was going to be my suggestion lol.

I'm so tired of all the social networking site bullshit. I'm about to cancel every frakin account I've got.

Screw Em, honey. Lactate with pride! =)
I believe that the reason women have breasts is to provide sustenance to their children.

What could be more natural?
Hey, how about I video me doing a testicular self examination on Facialbook? Its for educational purposes so its all good.

Public breastfeeding makes me a little uncomfortable, but I don't think the police need to get involved. It irritates me that mom's have been arrested for breastfeeding.
I believe the thinking on this matter is misdirected. While there is ever a bit of silly and offensive Brouhaha regarding women breast-feeding in public, I am certain facebook's primary concern is the potential issue of children being shown in contact with what is an erogenous zone. Irrespective of what most people might think, this might serve as a form of porn to certain sorts out there. A friend posted some photos of her children bathing on facebook. Another friend and I were utter agog at the gall.
"Leeandra - I agree, it's all about context. Then again, I also think men's legs are sexier than their chests. But, that's just me. ;)"

That's it! Enough! Burquas for men...the only solution.

Oh, wait, isn't that what business suits are. Ties are their veils.
Hmm, I never saw the big deal myself. We are so repressed. I have three words for you: Page Three Girls.

America, get over it.

RATED
Lovely cherubic SmallBoyChild.

Happily, I never got harassed anywhere for breastfeeding, though I did make an effort to be discreet. Some people can be freaky-weird about this.

One of my children didn’t mind being weaned, the other cried for 2 days. I had a terrible cold at the time. Frankly, I think the fact that I didn’t want to give up the cold medicine gave me the strength to live with the crying... But after a couple of days she was fine. Good luck with the quittin!
Thanks, all!
Sorry the comments are getting away from me - I'm serving lunch.
SANDWICHES, people!
::sheesh!::
Hey, you get to post your pictures here and we enjoy the love.
Forget Facebook.
I didn't need to take pictures of me nursing my son. I just loved feeding him. You are sharing your wonder.
Nice boobs girlfriend. I also nursed for well over two years, and it was by far the best use I ever made of my tits, too. Love your sleeping kidling.

I was just today doing the dishes and having some sensation and having first a flash of 'yay!' and then some melancholy sense of loss, and then I realized: I had felt that sudden tension in my breasts you get when you think of your child, and milk rushes in, and you feel that sweet anticipation of nursing--until my body realized, no, he's seven years old now. It's in the past..

So enjoy every minute of it darling.. milk that rack for all it's worth!
I can see a woman being proud of her ability to feed her child.. it's a powerful thing and I think Facebook is obviously speaking from male domination syndrome..

A woman would have decided to let it stand on it own. (basically understood it spiritually).

Keep fighting the good fight.
Jodi:

15 years (my son turns 15 tomorrow!!!!) after the experience, you made me go back to the days when I felt pure, unadulterated joy. I would wonder: is it possible to feel any happier than when you're nursing your baby and he or she looks up from under the breast and gurgles at you in complete surrender, rapture and thankfulness.

Love it!
we are really whacked when it comes to the human body in this country. i just don't get it. aren't these the same bodies created by the god that all those whacko's are suppose to believe in?
I wish I could give this more thumbs.
It looks as though you are blessed like my wife was.....we opened a dairy.
A young woman named Gwenn Jacobs took on the Supreme Court of Canada and fought for the rights of Canadian Women to bare their breasts in public. Topless. Whenever they want.

Surely, a man with rippling pectoral muscles warrants some attraction but none we call profane. And the same should be said for women. We have puritanized the female breast, forced it behind a burka, turned it into a sought after voyeuristic pleasure.

We create this problem by continuing its mystere. I have glanced at bare breasts on the beach and found them attractive. I've done the same with faces, necklines, calves. When humans find others to be ugly, that's when we start having problems.
Here we go, thought I was to see a person naked on this site because of a "nudity warning".

As I recall my studies of the christian mythology, Adma and Eve were completely naked in the Garden of Eden.

Oh my god, Jodi has breasts and is using them as nature intended, to feed a child! Reminds me of all the shock and subsequent outrage at the superbowl halftime when we all saw and realized for the first time, I guess, that Janet Jackson had black nipples on the end of her breasts.

Naked people have to be confined to colonies, the nudist type while men can go anywhere topless and women can't. This repression of our sexuality has been out of control, or under control, for fat too long.

Get a grip America, all women have breasts, even some men, and most of us have male or female genitals.
wow, you do have pretty hair.


(and glandular amplitude)

I'm amazed at why breastfeeding is such a contentious issue for so many.
Jodi; that was pretty funny. I didn't expect what I saw, but I must say it spoke volumes about me. After reading what you posted and discovering the issue, I must say, like all the women I know with children, you are taller than Picasso.
It would be bad enough if they had this rule and they also didn't allow all those other pix of people inflagrante delicto. But given what's on there, it's just insane.

As someone once said, why is it that when a breast is actually being used for what it was made for, it's obscene, but when it's simply a sexual ornament, it's a good thing?

Could it be because the latter appeals to men, and the former isn't considered sexy? Or even reminds people of what breasts are actually meant for?
Jodi's webernet is down and she has asked me to let you all know she is not ignoring you.
Excellent, well-reasoned, compact, funny.

Why the hell AERN'T you published?
Jumpin' Judas Priest. What kind of simpletons are they? How silly with all the real issues Facebook apparently refuses to address. (I wouldn't know -- never been there, never want to go there.)

Rated for exposure (of stupidity, that is).
One question. Why would you even want to publish this picture on the internet?

I don;t care that you published the picture. I just don't get it.
You just have to teach the kid to make the V sign while nursing and FB will be okay with your pics. (OS, not so much, at least cover-wise). Gorgeous kid, gorgeous you + two, wow, we're talking seriously artistic rackage.
It's not the nakedness, it's the child's age. He's *clearly* too old to breastfeed. That makes it child pornography.

/sarcasm

Rated *and* posted to FB. Take that, Barry Schnitt.

Signed, someone who wishes she wasn't always on the taking end of the camera, so maybe there would have been pictures of her nursing her 3 year olds to post to FB...
Well I think those photos are beautiful. Positively artistic. Facebook has no taste; we all know that!!
How shocking that someone would do with their breasts what they were designed to do!

I like your attitude about it. It reminds me of the end of the film "Untamed Heart", when following the death of the Christian Slater character, Marisa Tomei, who had some self-confidence problems, told her friend, "I was good at loving him." Sounds like you have been good at being a mother.
It's a beautiful picture, Jodi. And you are beautiful in it. I see that picture and it is the very epitome of a safe and secure child - so how can it send a message that is otherwise? It can't.

Breasts are first and foremost mammary glands. What the hell is the problem with people who want to reserve them strictly for porn movies, Maxim covers, and dress cleavage? I'll never get it.

(though once I flew 1st class next to a man who gallantly gave up his seat to his wife. He went back in coach (they were on the company dime.) She was a nursing mom, and I was deeply traumatized by the appearance of her nursing nipple. I had no idea that nursing could do that to a nipple! Of course I was only 24 at the time, and probably had seen only my own nipples at that point. I can still see it - I could draw it, it is so firmly etched in my memory. I'd choose charcoal as my medium. Definitely charcoal. And I'd make it 3D so you'd have to wear corny looking glasses to get the full effect. Then you'd look too stupid to be critical of a breast).
I wrote a post about this topic here on OS a short while ago, which you could probably find by clicking on my name, but my view is basically this:

"No nudity" is a pretty consistent position, and breasts = nudity. Facebook has been inconsistent about removing nudity from their advertising, as you point out, but they've also been inconsistent about removing breastfeeding photos. I have a friend who put a nursing photo as her profile pic and didn't get it taken down. My guess is Facebook just responds when someone complains or something, but can't monitor all pictures all the time. Consistent rule, inconsistently applied. If you want to say they should be more vigilant about enforcing their own rules, okay sure. But I don't think "no visible breasts" is a particularly heinous rule to apply, given that it's society's dominating standard. Fwiw, I have nothing against public displays of lactation behavior, but I think Facebook is within their rights and not guilty of anything more serious than inconstently enforcing their regulations.
Way to go!!! I enjoy you blog, and the comments on this one are super.
I've never understood the outrage over this either when there is so much other real crap to be worried about out there.
"...any content that we deem to be harmful...."

So it isn't defined by traces of areola. It is defined by a human being looking at a picture and using common sense. Or not, as in this case. Silly.
My family is Italian American. As is customary in such families,I was breast fed until, I was 4.5 years old. "No wonder," said an ex-girl friend, "Italians make such great lovers!"

I don't know about her claim, but I do know that breast feeding makes for healthier Children and is natural means of Birth Control.
When I was stricken with Polio, the doctors asked if I was Breast fed and until what age, and upon hearing the above, then said, "That may have saved his life and kept him from being permanently affected."
While I have often found women--especially my beloved Sami--who are post-partum very attractive (is it their amazing "I just gave birth!" glow? their swollen decolletage? who knows?), I haven't ever found a women actually *breastfeeding* particularly sexy. Warm, yes. Comforting. Motherly. Lots of other things. But sexy? Prurient? I mean, really.
This would only be considered objectionable if you were behind the wheel of a moving car or one parked at a fast food drive-thru.
uh... why exactly do you need facebook to support this endeavor?

please don't misunderstand what i'm saying: i am not grossed out by nursing. i support the idea that mothers should be able to feed their children at their convenience and they shouldn't have to feel like it is dirty or awful. your pics are really quite tasteful to boot.

but facebook is a private website. why can't they make their own rules? as we can all see, you posted your pictures here, with an audience that seems to celebrate you.

why isn't that adequate? that seems more pleasant to me than forcing some third party to show them to people.

and i second pill bug's comment. i think they're more worried about being accused of purveying porn. you do say that they accepted advertising from topless models in the past, which implies they no longer do so.

are you saying your boobs are somehow more entitled to the real estate? and are you at all concerned about the pictures that will follow, if facebook suddenly says, "tits with kids on them are ok!"? i can't help but think you're paving the way for some truly bizarre porn.
Beautiful photos . . . Facebook needs to get real, seriously!
I'm just shaking my head at the irrationality of the face book "policy." And, I don't shake my head very often because it is so big!!!
Oh.
My.
GAWD.
I thought I was going to have to start taking hostages.
MY INTERNET IS BACK!!! YAY!!!
(Okay, I'll start replying now)
Bravo 4 U!
Why is is that people are attracted to seeing others debase themsleves (and think it's cool), yet when it comes to a mother performing one of the most natural acts possible they are repelled?
Rated
facebook is a business. the owners don't want to support actual porn, so they have to draw a line somewhere. you came down on the wrong side of it, bad luck.

this decision is not yours to make.
I just dropped by, I couldn't open this at work. Milk this rant for all it's worth.
Hmmm. This is a puzzling topic to me.

I don't necessarily have a problem with the photos, and yes, they are beautiful, but at the same time....I feel like it's such an intimate moment between mother and child. I don't understand the rationale behind wanting to post the photos on a networking website.

I know, you've answered that question, you're proud. But I do think there's a large disparity between the picture of you breast-feeding your child and a person posting a photo standing in front of the gates of Disney World.

As I said, I don't personally have a problem with it....but I just don't understand why one would want to share that with the world. It seems more like something one would show to family and the closest of friends. Not the however many hundreds of friends one might have on Facebook. Perhaps it's because I'm a man and will never have that actual connection, but it seems much to personal a thing to be displaying on the internet for all to see.
Interesting to see this article after this very similar (yet contrasting) one from yesterday --
http://open.salon.com/blog/marytkelly/2009/03/03/facebook_home_to_wanna_be_porn_stars

(Was your article by chance inspired/provoked by this one?)

But to answer your question --
YES!! IT IS MORE ACCEPTABLE for a drunk 14-year old girl with one arm laid across her otherwise topless chest, in a pair of fuzzy bunny ears and a bikini thong, to pretend to lick the neck of the equally drunk, equally nude underage girl next to her, and then post the pic on Facebook.

That's right!

(Our society... has got it all figured out.)

But if one pixel of said underage nipple might be showing, the pic would surely be deleted. It's all object, no subject, no common sense.

Sorry.
Thanks for this Jodi. Lovely pictures of you and your baby. Screw Facebook. Brought back some beautiful memories for me, and apparently for many others here. I miss being able to feed and comfort my children so simply.
Ugh! Lost internet again! Let's see how long this lasts. I can't respond to everyone (Thanks, Comcast!), but I do have a few things to say.

I am so thankful for everyone's comments!!! I was sitting on the floor of my closet bargaining with God and reading all the comments in liiiiiitle bitty print on my Instinct.

Yes, I have very curly hair. I keep it long so that it weighs itself down. I do occasionally find small children caught in it, however.

I am not taller than Picasso. In fact, I'm 4'11". I'm not taller than ANYONE.

As for the porn comments - there are some really bent people out there. I'll bet if you do a search on mailboxes you'll get porn. This is something that is happening in my world. I don't need Facebook to sanction me, I'm just doing my own little part to make breastfeeding at LEAST as socially acceptable as Girls Gone Wild. Don't like it? Don't look at it. I'm pretty sure no one clicking on this post was misled.

I didn't come down on the wrong side of anything. I made a statement which does not technically break the terms of service of Facebook OR OpenSalon.

Once again, don't like it? There are plenty of photos from Spring Break about to hit a Facebook page near you. It looks like I did make the decision and so did a quarter million other people who have joined the Facebook group supporting that decision.
Another part of the agreement:

"You understand and agree that the Company may, but is not obligated to, review the Site and may delete or remove (without notice) any Site Content or User Content in its sole discretion, for any reason or no reason"

This is because it's their site. Not yours. Get your own site and you can do what you like with it.

As someone who runs a site with user-generated content, it never ceases to amaze me at the stuff people complain about.
Excuse me whilst I run away and hide in shame, then.

I treat Facebook as I would any other business I patronize. If I don't like the business practices, I complain. I went through the proper channels and I will once again state for the record that not only did I not violate the terms of service, but my photos have NOT been sanctioned.

If you think the photos violate the terms of service, you're welcome to complain, I won't tell you that YOU don't have that right.

Amazing, indeed.
Mary T's piece inspired/provoked me as well. The post I wrote in reply seems to be having a similar effect. I'd be curious to hear what you think.

As for your maternal hotness, sexual hypocrisy is to American spirituality what defense spending is to our economy. We rely on what we don't dare acknowledge, even as it sucks the life out of life.

It's shame that's vulgar, obscene, and nasty. Your breast is beautiful, your child is beautiful, and my God, woman, what a head of hair you've got!

As for FaceBook, we can paraphrase Dicken's Mr. Bumble, "If FaceBook supposes that… FaceBook is a ass - a idiot. If that’s the eye of FaceBook, FaceBook is a bachelor; and the worst I wish FaceBook is that his eye may be opened by experience - by experience."

Rated.
I read about this protest yesterday. Kudos to you for participating.

I remember the first time I ever saw a woman breastfeeding on our senior cruise to Mexico. She was just sitting on a bench outside her door, naked to the waist, breastfeeding. Neighbors passed by, waved, stopped to talk. It was 1986 and we American younguns were shocked. We've come a long way from 1986 but we still aren't to the point where nursing mothers can just pull their tops off in the middle of the street and no one will think anything of it. Hope a better day comes soon!
Oh, just had to add a comment about Facebook saying that they're doing this to make the site safe for children. Because it's not like breastfeeding is FOR children or anything.
I'd like to respond to Jason Jungbluth, and the idea that nursing is an intimate moment between child and mother.

I nursed my daughters two dozen times a day or more early on, and still several times a day when they were three. It may be a sacred relationship of a sort, but the act of breastfeeding is entirely mundane. It's a part of life. It's a particularly lovely mundane aspect of life - not unlike, say, holding hands with my husband or giving my mom a hug. But neither of those acts are "intimate" or sacred in any but the most poetic interpretation. I would not hesitate to post a photograph of myself holding hands with my husband or hugging my mom on FB, they're lovely little vignettes of our relationships and the way we spend our days. Same thing with a breastfeeding photo.

The idea that the breastfeeding relationship, yea, verily the breastfeeding *moment* is "intimate" is a throwback to the idea that it is something slightly distasteful. Like that other intimate act, sex, it's something you do behind closed doors. No one wants to see it. Because, deepening that association, those boobies are sexual, right?

Posting photos of ones self breastfeeding is no more extraordinary or invasive than the actual act of breastfeeding in public. It isn't necessarily a political act, either. Breastfeeding in public is merely going about the business of one's day with one's child. Posting photos of it is merely sharing memories of beautiful, mundane everyday moments with loved ones. There's no invasion of the intimate space involved.
Jodi, you son is adorable. It's a fact of life and a normal thing to do. You are doing it exactly right by bonding with him and giving him a good, healthy start in life. Nursing can be the best of times. The deal with Facebook is crazy. This country is ass-backwards with some issues. Good for you and your darling son.
It's perfectly natural, such a shame that there are so many prudes in this country. You should feel proud to be a mother breastfeeding her child, not someone who has to go into hiding to do it. It's not like you are doing anything wrong.

In my opinion it's people who smoke and things like that who should be made to do it in secret. I hate having to breathe their noxious fumes.
that child is not likely to go hungry
pertinent post - terrific tits - lactating's lovely - fuck facebook
Shocking. Horrifying. Embarrassing. You should be ashamed. Lurid. Shows the depravity of our society.

My mother said she did that to me, but I never believed her.

Excuse me:I have to go back and look again.
I agree that the photos are tastefully (no pun intended) done. I also agree that it's absurd about Facebook not allowing breastfeeding pictures. I also nursed my six children and loved every bit of it (except for the first couple of weeks when there was the excruciating pain.) And yet, there is something about your pictures that bothers me. Perhaps I associate nursing with intimacy. While there is nothing wrong with nursing discreetly in public, I'm not sure why you felt the need to post your nursing pictures. Perhaps those kind of pictures should be kept only for family and friends. Making love is also natural and beautiful, but would you post those kind of intimate pictures? Probably not. I am still curious what motivated you to want to post the nursing pictures.
Oh, for crying out loud. Patrica K, breastfeeding is not equivalent to making love. It's equivalent to giving your five year old a peanut butter sandwich. You wouldn't hesitate to do that in public, would you? Or to post a picture on Facebook of your kindergartener eating that sandwich at a picnic? Please reference my comment above about the danger of assigning mythical "intimacy" to the breastfeeding relationship. It is something that a mother and baby do hundreds of times in a given week. It is not something that needs to or should be done in a closet. And if it's a mundane act, sharing photos of it should be neither shameful nor political - it should be just as mundane (and just as lovely) as the picnic photo. It's jerks who insist on sexualizing the whole thing who turn it political.
Damn straight. Work those breasts.

You have such pretty, lush hair.

And those are lovely photographs.
For anyone who wonders how mundane some of my photos really are click here.

If I shared photos of my kids' hand turkeys with psychological analysis of their choices, perhaps this shouldn't be so shocking.
The reaction is the normal absurd American hypocritical response to things sexual or perceived sexual. The State that watches the most PORN is the most fundamentally religious State. So called Christian "morals" has been used as a bullwhip to keep the masses passive.

They want to watch, because they find it erotic, but they DONT want us to know they get aroused by simple physical contact below the neck.
You know there's a Facebbook group called "Hey Facebook! Breastfeeding is not a crime!" right?

I have a few completely discreet and very tender photos from my own bfeeding days, and I treasure them. It's such a warm and special time in your life as a mother.

And if Facebook has a problem with nipples, a whole lot of guys and their vacation photos are in trouble.
Bravo. Well done, Jodi. And BTW, your son is gor-juuuuuuussssss!
I've never understood the prudishness behind offense at displays of breastfeeding. It's not that breastfeeding is all that sexual. Can you think of pictures of people, that while beautiful, are that far from sexual?

People who complain must have one of two issues with breastfeeding. (1) They do find it highly sexually enticing and don't think it should tempt their weak wills. (2) They are offended over the mere fact that breasts represent anything but visual stimuli for sexual satisfaction of the viewer.
wow look at the size of those baby bottles. Junior is eating well...:)

The market will decide what facebook ends up doing. If you want to market yourself to a broader audience to include corporate america then you have to clean it up. Whether or not their venture pays off only time will tell.
Well, what can you expect from an outfit that was basically founded to enrich itself by taking advantage of adolescent insecurity and angst? And what can you expect from a company that hires a spokesman named Schnitt?
By the way, the kid is beautiful -- good job, Momma!
You go, girl. What a ridiculous rule.
You should get a job marketing for Facebook. Full frontal nudity? What the hell am I doing on MySpace?
WHAT!! ha- facebook is ridiculous, those are beautiful pictures
Each day, I firmly believe, Facebook gets a little more insane. Then again, so do I. Here's a piece written by a friend of mine, I think you'll enjoy it. http://ironkyle.wordpress.com/2009/07/17/kyle-art-vs-facebook-terms-of-use/
Oh well, since things are the way they currently are I guess you could form a group and advertise "Young Men and Women Sucking Tits" pics and videos. Once you charge money everything will be OK with our overlords again.
This is old, Jodi. This was all over the internet awhile back about breast-feeding mothers filing a lawsuit against Facebook after their groups and their accounts were disabled for offensive content. Considering all the other hate groups on there, I was surprised too breast-feeding got the squeeze.
It is indeed old.
If you check the date, I wrote it back at the beginning of March.
::wink::
I don't know what spurred the new interest, though.
Jodi, I saw this on the “most read” feed, and noted the date as well. Since I missed it the 1st time around, I will throw in my two cents.

Americans are overly infatuated with the female breast. If we were in Europe, or Africa, this would be a non-issue. When I worked at Toys R Us, we had to develop a policy to address customers who breast fed their babies in the store, due to complaints by other customers who were “grossed out”.

We see pictures of animals breast feeding their young all of the time, and think nothing of it. It’s unfortunate we are unable to get beyond our puritanical hang ups.
BTW, my wife breast fed all three of our children. It’s much healthier and less expensive than that supermarket crap.
Worse, how many times have you seen on TV or in the movies someone being killed? Yet somehow a naked female with... with... MAMMARY GLANDS can NEVER be shown.

This planet is insane. Well, maybe just the humans...
I love the pictures.

I've just marked my sixth straight year of being either pregnant or nursing, with no end in sight (youngest and last will be 2 in September). You and I resemble each other with your 4'11" frames, curly hair and well endowed curves. I have to sincerely thank you for posting these, because seeing how beautiful you and your son are gives me a boost, too.
The AD! What a hoot! "Bar Hunger, Feeding America, Join the Cause on Facebook". Hooo-hooooo. Have you thought about donating to a milk bank? Wish I had photos, don't recall that kind of amplitude, all I remember was that if I didn't have a tall glass of something to drink in my hand when we sat down and started, I would juggle all involved into the kitchen from any comfy place we were just to get a drink. It makes ya thirsty. The 'Got Milk' people are missing out on a great campaign.
I find nothing offensive here.

It's the glares I get from women in the restaurant with their breasts out...

I can't help but look, it's the way men are wired. I'm sorry for myself and the rest of us.

Damn you women have superpowers...
This is so crazy. Breastfeeding is not only beautiful but the most natural thing in the world. The other crap they post on Facebook is an abomination to women. Plastic surgery, the sexy things you mentioned above...grrrrrrrr rated.
Seems like this is the type of behavior that should be promoted! I breast fed all three of my children and was glad to be able to do so. I also have nothing against people who don't breast feed. I do however, have a lot against Facebook for deeming photos like yours offensive. They are beautiful photos of you being a loving mother to your baby. Thanks for sharing.
This reminds me of the naked kid issue a couple of days back. I think it's sweet when I see a mother feeding her baby (breast or otherwise) but then again I'm a straight women who doesn't fetishize breasts. If someone finds those photos obscene, it says a lot more about them than about you.
I breast-fed my youngest until she was nine months old. I was working from the time she was five weeks old and went to her sitters' to feed her at lunchtime. It was amazing and I cried when I stopped and new I would never have that experience again. I was very shy and am extremely self-conscious but I actually DID nurse her at the mall (discreetly).

Strange that anyone considers it inappropriate, especially on Facebook!
Jodi, Jodi, Jodi, Facebook is simply acknowledging what our society believes, that breasts are for sexual stimulation of males and not for what nature intended them for, feeding children. (And incidentally, I found that a mixture of sawdust and motor oil was far healthier for my children than breast milk.) Put those things away, woman; you're going to put someone's eye out.