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AUGUST 18, 2009 9:55AM

Colossal Fail: When Good Food Goes Bad

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When I was four, my mother made Beef Stroganoff with Brussel sprouts. I’m not sure if it was the sprouts or the Stroganoff, but all of us got sick. It’s been thirty years and I have never gotten sick again from anything my mother prepared, but I could not stomach either dish for thirty years.

This summer, my mother-in-law made Brussel sprouts. I was suddenly in a corner – do I refuse to eat them in front of my children and The Man’s family – or do I suck it up and try them again after three decades? I chose to eat them. They were very well made, crisp and sweet without a hint of the stinky-feet bitterness I had come to associate with the dish. I really enjoyed them.

I’m not sure if I’ll be attempting Beef Stroganoff any time soon, but I did learn an important lesson – keep trying to make and eat foods. Even if you got sick eating them, even if you “hate them.” I believe my mother made a (rare) mistake. After she “messed up” that meal, she never made it again. She created a person who “didn’t eat” certain foods. (Though, those foods were very few.) It’s rare to meet someone that doesn’t have extreme food preferences based on what I call The Colossal Food Fail.

I had one of these recently. I spent 4 hours baking a “Mile-High Lemon Meringue Pie” from Cook’s Illustrated’s American Classics. I was meticulous. I followed each instruction closely. I didn’t just measure, I weighed each ingredient. When the time came to make the Italian Meringue (meringue that is cooked by pouring boiling sugar syrup into stiff peak egg whites – the most difficult kind, in my opinion) I even hand washed my electric mixer bowl and balloon whisk. (Twice.)   

I placed the finished pie into the refrigerator just after midnight. It was beautiful.

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There are no photos of the pie after that one - it was all just too painful. I had made other, less difficult lemon meringue pies before, so I thought after the meringue came out so nicely, I was home-free. So, when I cut into it after dinner the next day, I had my camera in hand. I was ready to get a photo like this:

Proper Pie
  

Instead, I pulled the pie server spatula back and water with gobs of what may have once been lemon curd dripped back down into the pool in the bottom of the pan. The meringue (the part that I was so amazed I did right the first time) was perfection. All else was lemon water. I am unashamed to say that I cried.

I could have given up. I could have dumped it in the trash and said, “Oh, lemon curd is HARD. Maybe I put it in the fridge too long. I’ll never try that again. It’s too HARD.” Instead, I fed it to my family anyway. The Man and The Spawn said it was good, even though they had to eat it with a spoon. Then I started talking about it to everyone who would listen. How did this happen? Had this happened to them? My mother said the same thing had happened to her in 1968 and she never made another coconut cream pie. 

After that,  I started on my friends. Finally, I copied the recipe and sent it to my friend Barry. I talked with him about each step and ingredient - then it dawned on me. The curd called for 8 egg yolks and the meringue called for 4 egg whites.  Once I had pulled the 4 egg whites out and put the 4 resulting egg yolks into a bowl for the curd, I had stopped. I forgot to put in the rest of the egg yolks.

If I had allowed my shame at “failing” Lemon Meringue Pie keep me from talking about my mistake, I would have never figured it out. So, the next time you shoot for the moon and crash and burn, talk about it! Never give up!

Soon, I will post my successful pie here. I might even try Beef Stroganoff. If we don't talk about our failures, no one can learn from them. I'll bet you never forget to count your egg whites after this! Never surrender!


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Proper Pie: hickerphoto.com
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"This is essentially just rubbish, but, because I'm totally committed to it, it works."
~Eddie Izzard
I had the same problem with stuffed peppers. Just the smell made me wretch for years. No latin? How am I supposed to keep up my progress?
I think it important not to give up on anything! Especially food. And I've decided never to change an ingredient to "suit" a person's picky taste. On Sunday I made a gratin of potatoes with goat cheese and garlic that I LOVE to go with the butterflied leg of lamb I was doing on the grill. Well, many in this household can't and won't eat anything with cream. To accommodate them, I used a combo of evaporated milk, 2 percent milk (don't even go there) and fat-free half and half. It all curdled halfway through the baking and I threw it all out. Lesson: always cook for yourself first.
Bob - Try it again with colored peppers (red, orange, yellow) instead of green. They are sweeter, milder and they don't smell the same when they are cooking. Also, try stuffing them with Zatarain's Dirty Rice mix. My mom makes them that way and they are yummy.

I do occasionally bump with something other than Latin. It keeps you people on your toes.

FTM - I have found when it comes to dairy to always follow the recipe. The fat you save is never worth the results.
I have the same problem you have with Stroganoff, except mine is with gin.

What happened to your pie is a tragedy.
oh yes, this is SOOoo rated!

I've done this one. Okay, here's my theory because it's been too hot to get into the LMP prep the last month or so. And you know this is a lot of hot work.

You have to let the curd set because it has set itself without the heat and dampness of the meringue. My next attempt : let the curd settle overnight in the crust in the frig. carefully covered so that it's not entirely encased and air can circulate. THEN create the meringue. It's the only way. I'm convinced of it!
I have a great stroganoff recipe when you are ready.
and ps...we ate my last one, sort of like a lemon floating island and yes, the mile high meringue was spectacular.
I had an unfortunate incident with Colossal Food Fail; unfortunate because the food was chocolate chip cookies! Apparently, I had the flu the day I brought the cookies to school. I got to eat some of the leftovers, but it was just before the, uh, symptoms of the flu began in earnest. When you're a kid, it's not hard to explain dislike of Beef Stroganoff and/or Brussel Sprouts - much harder to explain dislike of chocolate chip cookies! I'm happy to report, though, that I've recovered from the incident.
I hate kitchen failure! I take it so personally.
Procopius - You get the spit-take for the morning! Yes, my soul was bruised for several days.

nofrillsmonkey - That's the real kicker! I made the curd in the morning with just that thought. It was in the fridge for 12 hours before I topped it with the meringue. But, I'm afraid half the yolks missing was just too much for it. I am waiting until the heat lets up - sometime around Christmas.

Liz - I think I'm going to do it in the fall. (That would be the week before Christmas.) When you have a moment, send it to me please. I'll save it for when I'm feelin' saucy. I even promise to post photos here when I do it!

Owl - That could have been serious! I'm glad you're feeling better about the cookies.

Jeanette - I feel the same way. I'm a PROFESSIONAL, dang it! Well... not a professional cook, but a professional food writer. I should know better. I think I would have been quite happy to part with my pie plate if I had gotten the satisfaction of backing over that pie in the driveway with my van.
Oh, what a heartbreak. I hate when that happens. I find it so easy to miss and ingredient when I am making something new and complicated. But good for the family for sucking it up...literally. Lemon meringue soup pie. I like it. Sometimes when we are lucky, a mistake leads to a great new version, but rarely. ~sigh~

And beautiful meringue. Picture perfect.
Julia, ever unapologetic, would be proud. I've finished my sixth cobbler in four weeks and am getting it close to edible. If you try stroganoff, send recipe.... I love the stuff... :-)
Jody: oh shit. that theory is shot. on to the next. but you need to know I made mine with eight egg yolks...I wanted to make a deep dish lemon meringue pie because this and cream pies are my favorite pie desserts.

my son suggested that this pie cannot be made deep dish. he said to make less of the curd, which does not suggest less yolk, only less curd. make two pies with the custard. then top it with the meringue.
This is proof positive that a professional chef has one of the hardest jobs in the world. EVERY dish has to come out right. If you're operating at less than 100% focus and success, a career can crash and burn, especially if the person who gets the failed dish happens to be a food critic. Sorry about your pie..... xoxo
oh I want to add, this crazy meringue pie passion came from going to Greek diners back when and having insanely huge meringues on pie.

but I think they cheated with a LOT of weird ingredients because the flavor of the pudding wasn't exactly sublime. just the meringue was.

lately I noted that some of them put a layer of sponge cake between the meringue and the pudding..maybe to sop up the weep. I'm not sure but I didn't like it.

I'm going to shoot for it again as soon as the heat lets up. I love making this particular pie. the floating island thing doesn't bother anyone and I get to work on my crusts anyway. I shall blog this!
You can't use crescent roll strips of dough as a sub in chicken pastry.

The result, while delicious, has the consistency of lumpy cream of chicken soup. It is inedible.
We've all had specatacular failures. One of the reasons why I'm not that into baking is the absolute precision that is so often required in the ingredients. Success is wonderful and the failure can be devastating. But like all things you learned and discovered that rather than some major fault it was a small thing. Ahhhhh, there's that allegory to life again.
I really liked this story--especially serving it up anyway. Someday I'll have to write the story of a spectacular failure of mine with an overdone pecan pie!
re: pie--Ouch! But you figured out the problem, so you're in the driver's seat, Jodi.

re: brussels sprouts--I read in an anthropology book once that there's a gene that controls how we taste brussels sprouts. Some people taste them as bitter and others do not. "The fault, dear Brutus, lies not in our sprouts, but in our cells."
I love this one Jodi! I do that kind of stuff all the time and it does take detective work to figure it out. I've made that pie before. It was way too much work. I like the Tyler Florence thing about meringue - add a melted marshmallow to the egg whites as you are beating them. Works every time.

I like Cooks too, but sometimes they seem just like crazy Martha with all the "steps".

Your pie is beautiful anyway. And I bet it tasted great.
JK - It was *so* pretty! But, I refuse to be discouraged.

trudi - I've found cobbler to be more difficult than it looks. It's a rather complex issue. Keep at it!

Toochie - I think that's why I'll never be a "critic." I don't mind writing about food or even giving an opinion, but I have such a soft spot for chefs. I couldn't take that sort of stress! But, if I was a chef, I would hope that you'd be who I cooked for! (Then again, I'm probably biased about you!)

nofrillsmonkey - I'm hoping for an outbreak of meringue posts.

ePriddy - As The Man says, "It'll eat!"

Walter - I wonder how much better we could all be as cooks if we all shared our failures and put our heads together?

AHP - I have read about this "Super Tasters" theory. You would think that gene would enhance the food experience, but it seems that those folks really hate things, especially cruciferous veggies. I'm glad that one skipped me.

L&P - I'm one of those weird people who loves details and tedium. I don't mind super-complicated recipes, either. This one isn't the hardest I've done, but it was very involved. The longer it takes me to do something, the more emotionally invested I am in it. This is great when I succeed, but when I fail... not so much.
I don't care if it required a hacksaw. I would eat that entire pie by myself.
So many truths here! I have done the same...a failure caused me NOT to try again! You have given me courage! And I love pies! Never met a pie I didn't like. Do I bake them? HELL NO! Shall I perhaps start? I think so.........
At least the pie only looked funny.

I saw a repeat (I think it was a repeat) of the Food network show "Chopped" the other day.

Last 2 people duking it out. It is pretty close in score. Guy hands over his tasty dessert... and The judges take a bite... WHAM. They look like they are poisoned.

He used salt instead of sugar... on TV.

My mom was an awful cook when I was growing up. Nothing ever looked like the picture in the cookbook.

I can count 5 or 6 times in my life (eating out) where everyone else at the table got trashed with food poisoning and I was fine.

mmmm pie.
When making oatmeal cookies once, I actually forgot the oatmeal. I found myself retracing the recipe after I removed a cookie sheet of runny crap from the oven. One would think that mistake would have been caught pre-oven, but I was much younger then. And I'm still no fan of Brussel sprouts.
Actually there are family members in Mississippi who most likely have not eaten key lime pie when my flu-ridden self vomited it up in middle of a nice dinner right on top of the main dishes. Ruined a meal for about 10 people ;0) It was the really green kind of key lime to which food coloring had been added.
Yum, brussel sprouts. Sorry about the lemon water & thanks for the inspiration.

Years ago we all got sick from a beautiful restaurant meal my father treated us to for his annual bonus. I couldn't eat steak for years afterwards. Something about tag-team vomiting can put you off your feed.
i tried to make spaghetti while camping once.
Maybe it was the stove not getting hot enough.
Maybe it was the 10000’ altitude.
Maybe the noodles were defective.

i made strips of glue in what tasted like lukewarm catsup.

i served dry cereal, chips and jerkey.
-p-
You're a better woman than me, Gunga Din, to even try that pie recipe once, much less twice! But I'm glad you're back on Brussels sprouts. I hated them growing up, as I did most veggies, until (like most veggies) I finally experienced eating fresh ones as an adult. Now I love them.

Everyone I know has foods they won't eat -- or didn't for decades -- because they got sick on them once. It actually makes sense from a purely animal, survival instinct angle. If you can overcome the aversion, it's a small triumph.
So, a brand new stove, new recipe for a chocolate cake I was dying to try, my in-laws as dinner guests.... You can guess how it ended. A recipe for disaster from the very start some (like my husband) might say. Determined to get it right, I made it again the next day. Turns out, the new oven was to blame - sort of. OK, it was really my inexperience with the oven and my habit of not carefully reading instruction manuals before operating new equipment or assembling complicated pieces of furniture. Alas, my husband and I enjoyed the delicious, perfect cake alone. And he had the pleasure of giving me another lecture on the benefit of reading the manual first - everyone was happy.

Thank you for continuing to share your trials and your tribulations Jodi.

PS - I know so many people that practice a new recipe on their enduring significant other before springing it on their guests - that's just never been my schtick. There are far too many recipes to try and not enough time. Joie de vivre!
Have you ever tried Brussel sprouts in lemon water? It's to die for!
I used to hold a monthly dinner party for twelve in my tiny apartment. With rare exception, the menu consisted of dishes I was making for the first time. The secret to my success was to have my guests bring wine and appetizers. By the time the meal was served, everyone was happily buzzed and always raved about the meal and certain to attend the following month. Unfortunately this approach does not work well with minor children or recovering alcoholics.

BTW, I'm forwarding this to my step-daughter who is trying to cook after years of living on take-out.

Great story, rated for courage and honesty.
Oh, dear - how awful for you, a magnificent meringue and a soupy curd! Never happened to me, that way though - I prebake the crust, and cook the lemon filling in the top of the double-boiler - and assemble everything at the next to the last minute. That way, the crust is flaky, the filling is cooked to perfection, and the meringue is fresh. I also ran across a trick for keeping the bottom crust of a sweet or savory pie from getting all soggy which works incredibly well. When you have settled the bottom crust into the pan, brush it with plain egg white, and stick it in the freezer for a few minutes before filling it, and adding the top layer. The way it was explained to me, the egg white "seizes" in the first minutes of baking, and keeps the juice from the pie filling from seeping through.
Lemon meringue pie is my all-time favorite but I've never tried the mile high meringue. It sounds like a frosting which I make.
Brussel sprouts are delicious blanched, split in half and tossed with thinly sliced onion and an oil and white balsamic dressing. We'll talk!
Your pie photo was beautiful. I once spent a full day baking a Black Forest chocolate cake which tasted so-so, but it was one of the most beautiful photos I ever took.
Btw, I like my sprouts crisp, with balsamic vinegar.
Boy can I relate! Don't feel bad about it. Sometimes these things happen. Finally came to the conclusion that I will not cook anything that takes more time to prepare than it does to eat! Wrote a brief chronicle of some of the more memorable kitchen disasters a few months ago.....bon appetite!
Every time I read one of your foodie posts I feel like a totally unworthy mother - four hours on a pie? The last time I spent four hours making anything edible for my family was probably Thanksgiving and all I was doing was opening the oven to check the turkey! You are a pie star in my book just for being able to pull off that amazing meringue. My biggest pie disaster came when I attempted to make my first solo pie back in my grade school days and somehow substituted salt for sugar - I never loved my dad more than when he actually swallowed his first and only bite. I like your stick to it attitude - I will remember to apply that next time I get out my Easy Bake Oven.
Not a failure at all! It was still edible and delicious, AND it became part of your culinary education when you realized that you had neglected to add those egg yolks. It is so often that the final steps are most easily stumbled over.

Bravo!
Ugh.
Sorry I haven't been around to comment. I got to meet a fellow OSer this evening. I was reviewing a restaurant. Tomorrow I'll be posting something like "This Crappy Sushi Place: When Bad Food Gets Worse"

Pray that I am unscathed.

Go on!
Start praying!
Hope you have some Immodium handy, then again there is much wisdom in expelling poisons...
that is one serious looking pie...
Commiserations on the pie. Still, you did well with the meringue part. It looks spectacular. Next time use the other four egg yolks to make a Pavlova.

My food I couldn't eat for years was pakorah - Indian veggie fritter thingie you eat with a chili sauce. I know it wasn't the pakorah that did it. It was the norovirus going around my kid's preschool. But the pakora was the last thing I ate before the worst projectile vomiting of my life, so it was off the menu for more than a decade. BTW this is known as the "watermelon effect", from a paper published by a psychologist who poisoned her guests with chicken at a barbecue, and noticed how many of them ended up averse to the watermelon.

My most Colossal Food Fail was a pork in a wine and cream sauce, served over noodles. Added a generous dash of paprika. Curse those spice people making all their little tubs look so alike. The "paprika" was cayenne. It wasn't just hot. It was personal injury lawsuit hot, totally inedible. Fortunately my wife saw the funny side and there was enough bread and pate and salad so our Valentine's Day dinner didn't end with a trip to In 'n' Out.

Bobbot - a "wretch" is a person who can't spell "retch".
I have the "I've failed, so I can't bear to try again" issue with cooking fish. Most any fish. I like it at restaurants, and just can't get a good result in my house.
Great "if at first you don't succeed, fry, fry a hen!" post! (That's the running joke in my family...) Anyway, what a beautiful pie! Send me a piece when you make the successful version, okay? I think I may have eaten at the same sushi place the other day. Blegh!

On a side note, I had the same thing happen, got sick on eggplant parmigiana when a child, couldn't eat it again. Was invited to a boyfriend's house for din-din as a teen, guess what his thinly-veiled disapproving mother had made? I ate it. Her attitude toward me didn't improve so I told his sister later that week in school that their mother's cooking had made me sick to my stomach. He and I parted ways shortly thereafter.