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NOVEMBER 10, 2009 9:12AM

What a Bunch of Tripe! (Foodie Tuesday)

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In July, I wrote a post that involved pho. I was asked by EatJax.com (my “real” job) to review a pho place called “Bowl of Pho” this past week. There had been a great deal of confusion on that past post about exactly what pho is and how it is prepared, so I decided it would be a good time to bring all of you along with me. 
 

Pho
 

If you're unfamiliar with pho, pronounced "fuh," it is a beef broth soup commonly served with various beef cuts, rice noodles and vegetables. Pho originated in Northern Vietnam during the mid-1880s. The dish was heavily influenced by both Chinese and French cooking. Rice noodles and spices were brought in from China and the French made the eating of red meat more popular. It is believed that the word "pho" is derived from "pot au feu," a French soup. Vietnamese cooks merged the Chinese, French and native influences to make a dish that is uniquely Vietnamese.

Normally, I have had rare beef pho. This is the pho broth, rice noodles, vegetables and slices of rare beef. Often, the beef is cooked solely by pouring the scalding broth over the beef pieces. Well-done beef is available for those who prefer it.

I ordered my pho with all of the possible meats - rare beef, beef flank, brisket, tendon, tripe (cow stomach) and meatballs. Pho is served in some places using other meats, but beef is most common.

First, there are quite a few condiments involved in eating pho.

Accoutrements
 

Hoisin, Sriracha, ground chilies, salt and pepper are most common and are often on the table when you are seated.


Usually after any appetizers, your server will bring a plate of greenery which you may add to the pho according to your tastes.

Not THAT kind of greenery!
 

This particular plate of garnishes includes lime wedges, sliced jalapeno, saw-leaf herb, sweet Thai basil and bean sprouts, which are all very common. Add these herbs and vegetables to the pho according to your taste. Some of these, especially the basil and saw-leaf, are strong flavors, so take a little nip of them before adding them to be sure what you’d like.

The heart of all pho is the slow-simmered broth. The broth should be fragrant, as many spices are used in the preparation. It should also contain just enough fat to make it tasty. The aromas of five-spice and beef are powerful and pleasing. The vegetables should be crisp and fresh while the noodles should be firm but not crunchy or mushy.

Tripey Tripey Goodness!



I do realize that not everyone is going to be willing to try tripe on their first trip to a pho purveyor.

Honestly, other than a chewy texture, I wouldn't have even noticed the tripe or tendon. But, for less daring folks, most restaurants offer various combinations of pho meats as well as other soup offerings. There are numerous salad, rice, noodle and dessert dishes as well as extensive soft drink menus at many Vietnamese restaurants.

I had a beautiful glass of limeade that was unlike any other I’ve had. It tasted like real lime rather than RealLime©!

LIMEADE!
 

Pho is yet another example of the worldly cuisine quickly making its way into the repertoires of American palates. Of course, your experiences with pho may vary from mine, but as our world expands, we owe it to ourselves to step out of our comfort zones and try the delicious menus showing up in every corner of our country. Remember, it wasn't so long ago that the majority of Americans refused to eat sushi!

Happy eating!






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Fac me cocleario vomere!
Pho's good. Lots of good places on New Orleans Westbank (where the biggest Vietnamese population is) to get it.
I never thought I'd say his, but you made tripe sound and look good!
Leeandra - That's actually the first place I ever tried pho when I was about 15. I grew up in Pensacola (decidedly non-ethnic at the time), so New Orleans was a wonderland of food for me.

I didn't know what was in it at the time and I didn't care. ::SLURP!::
alexis - YAY! That makes me happy!
I like my pho on the less-spicy side. Next time I'll do the tripe trip. Looks delicious. ~R~
last summer when visiting CA I tried menudo, which is a tripe soup. no, it wasn't for me. I can't say why. it had the oddest flavor. I would try pho though, because I think the addition of other meats might mellow and enhance the flavor of the tripe. besides, I'd love to try it.

very nice but what does "vomere" mean? "for mother"? "vomit"? "mother's vomited"? hmmm...I'm only on my first cup of coffee so forgive me.
Chuck - The place I went to was kind of "choose your own adventure." The broth was spiced with a lot of five-spice but didn't have any heat. That's what the Sriracha was for. Personally, if my nose isn't running and I don't have "noodle slurp" all over my chin, I feel incomplete in the pho-eating process.

monkey - The tripe really didn't taste like anything. Plus, the chewiest, most "offally" bit was surprisingly the meatball. Hmmm...

The Latin is "Gag me with a spoon." I posted the pho goodies photo on Facebook a few days ago and everyone went "EWWWW!"
Jodi Kasten. tripe? Great post.
Guess who reads OS? Jane Black.
She's as lucky as you. Except this:`
Jane B., is a food eater based in NYC.
I'll give her nasturtiums in her salad.
What a great job. Go eat all day long.
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Pho is just not Pho unless a Vietnamese makes Pho. I can't ever make Pho as delicious as those Vietnamese eateries. I try to visit Miss Saigon in Georgetown, DC. It use to cost in Vietnamese 'dong' currency exchange rates - dollar to dong - In 1990, only 11- cents. I'd feel guilty. I buy a 333 bier. bali bali bali. Your in a sorta heaven on Earth.
Vietnamese know the perfect mix of fresh herbs. I notice you have a bottle of:`Sriracha Hot chilli sauce.
or,
TU'O'NG OT' -
It has a rooster crowing on the bottle. I use Nuc Man - squid brand fish sauce.

tease. Yea fish sauce,
it's good on gelato?
Ice creams?
feta cheese?
Ya marinate?
A good meal!
Pho makes Ya nose run. No eat Pho and drip on the keyboard. Jane Black may see this? I hope she stopped reading my comments. Jane?
Howdy. I read your Washington Post articles. The 'piece' about veal was sad to read.

Ay, Jodi and Jane.
You should e-mail?
You can eat all day?
Go to Miss Saigon?
Looks delicious! I've heard about pho a lot recently and am anxious to try it. Thank for all the info!
Art - I agree about the fish sauce. They didn't set it out. Normally, I would ask for it, but when I'm reviewing I try to do the restaurant exactly as someone would who would be trying the food for the first time.

I also would NEVER try to make this. There are some things that are best left to the experts!

Karin - I have seen it mentioned often on cooking and travel shows. Tony Bourdain comes to mind. It is unique and definitely worth a try!
You are way more adventurous than I could ever be.
surly - Perhaps if I added Velveeta...

Loved your tiara by the way!
Jodi. You got me slobbering for Pho.
I'm in DC tomorrow. I'll get two bowls.
Ya have secure gmail and email address?
The snoops eat Ya Pho and holy macaroni.
They come from Little Italy mafia villages.
They are released from psychiatric wards.
They eat @ K- Street with paranoid cops.
Lobby creeps.
They smoke cigars.
They smell like goats.
Goat meat cost more than beef.
Next life (karma) they ear rats.
Rats eat cold garbage pizza pie.
Ya see them in DC with crust.
They were former politicos.
They are a rat's carnivore.
They will see post-croak.
Reap what we sow, huh?
So, Visit DC? I'll buy Pho.
I got to scram- so, chatty.
Fascinating post. I was raised by a British mother and thus chicken wings are a big gastronomic step for me. One of my favourite places to eat though, is at any of the Mongolian kitchens that are popping up. So pho is next.

Look at me go, Mom.
I would skip the limeade and wash it down with a gulp of Pepto Bismol.
JK - I think that "saw-leaf herb" is probably more of a description than an actual English name for it.

I'm in the bunker too. I don't want to get my tendons blown off.

Art - Now I have a mental picture of John Boener eating pizza out of a garbage can! HA!

Chris - I'm of British descent as well. If it couldn't be topped with mashed potatoes, my mother didn't make it. Now there's a conveyor belt sushi bar in Paddington Station! What a beautiful world...

aka - Aw, c'mon! Be a sport!
Yummy, I love Pho! We are lucky in Cleveland that we have several Pho providers in our "Asia town." I had a similar soup last summer in Mexico with tripe and tendon, and I have to say, I couldn't eat it. Too chewy. One thing you didn't mention-- Pho usually comes in HUGE bowls and is very inexpensive. A "small" bowl (under $10) is plenty for a meal.
We have countless Pho places here in Hawaii, as you can imagine. I love that you have combined something from my scottish heritage - tripe! - with the local foods here. I'll have to give it a try. Hagis anyone?
Sounds delicious Jodi. I'll have to seek out a good Vietnamese restaraunt here and give it a try. Probably pay a fortune Foh it though. This is Las Vegas and anything beyond steak and eggs cost a week's pay.
Cool. Armed with a little background, I'm now curious to try it . . . we'll see about the tripe . . .
Folks, if you've eaten link sausage, you've eaten tripe already. No need to get all squeamish about it.
voicegal - Yes! I had a shrimp appetizer, the "small" bowl of pho(!) and the magnificent limeade for $15!

Deborah - Have you see haggis in a CAN?!?

Bob gets the cookie for the first PhoJoke.

Owl - It can't hurt!

Leeandra - Absolutely. For pete's sake, yesterday was National Scrapple Day. It's just another part of the MooCow.

moooooooo
I am all for using up every part of an animal that's been slaughtered. But, as I say in my post today, if it's part of the reproductive, digestive or endocrine system, I'm not touching it, so someone else will have to eat it!
This was a faux pho tripe piece: it was more about pho than tripe. But I still enjoyed it.
That looks so healthy!! I love it! I'm even going to try it! Thanks!
you have managed to make me crave cow intestines...NICE!
and i put Sriracha on e-v-e-r-y-t-h-i-n-g!
Oh, dear - pho is wonderful (so is most Vietnamese cooking!) but I could never get behind tripe. I tried to cook it in a batch of menudo once, from scratch, and had to give it up because it smelt too horrible and entrail-y. They tell me that it helps to soak it in beer, first - but I've never dared try it again. And I like menudo, too...
I can't imagine anyone not loving tripe. But since I have been living in Iowa, I find the majority of people don't like lamb, veal, or fish or for that matter any seafood except samon. Being from Philly where there is such a variety of foods and tastes available, I find the Iowa menu very bland. Corn Dogs are not my thing.
I live in a heavily Vietnamese neighborhood in Montreal. There are, seriously, at least two soup restaurants per block, usually four. Although people tend to call it Tonkinoise instead of pho (emphasizing the northern vietnamese origins.) But it's the same thing.

I had to give it up for a while because my son didn't really like it when he was young. But now he loves steak. So we go and I give him half my meat and he gives me half his noodles.

But the broth sounds different. I've never had anything close to five spices in any of these restaurants (thank-god, I hate that stuff.) Maybe you have more of a southern vietnamese community? The greenery is pretty much the same, but we just get basil, not saw greens or Jalapeno.

But the condiments remain the same. Good ol' L.A. brewed Huy Fong sriracha sauce. Where would the world be without it?
i LOVE pho. it is all i want when i get sick.

i just want to add, pho is not pronounced exactly like fuh. i only know i can't pronounce it. i had a real vietnamese person try to teach me for half an hour, and eventually i just gave up. tonal languages are tough!

and they have the best drinks don't they?? try the lemon soda too, if you haven't yet! and the young coconut drink is fantastic.
I like pho, but tend to stay away from tripe and organ meats. I guess that makes me a weenie.
Thanks to all the commenters!

Juliet - I love the pleasant buzz from a good helping of Sriracha!

bstrangely - There are many ways I've heard people pronounce it. (Including three different ways at the same restaurant alone - all by Vietnamese people)

Foo
Pha
Phoh
etc.

But, the pronunciation I chose to use ("fuh") came from a Vietnamese pho fan site (say THAT three times really fast) where none of the people commenting took issue with it. That's the best I could do.

emma & others - There's no judgment from me about food preferences. Why should you ingest something that you wouldn't enjoy? I think it's much worse to order something on a personal dare like you're on Fear Factor then waste it than to know what you're into and stick with that. So, no stress!
vietnamese is probably my most favorite asian cuisine. Banh Xeo is my absolute favorite!

Thanks for posting!
Fee fie pho fum...

(I know, wrong pronunciation, but I've always pronounced it that way, and it'll take me a while to reconfigure.)

And of course, you can't always get what you want, but if you tripe sometime, you just might find, you get what you need.

Rated, because I'm offal.
Floyd - I still say "foe" - even though I know better. I feel like an ugly American.
The pho soup is actually what we call an 'old soup' in chinese. It's a pot of soup that has been cooking for years. They keep it in a huge pot on slow boil, continuously adding water and beef/pork bones to it.
Some Vietnamese serve pho with a side dish of raw green onion soaked in oil. You're suposed to put the onion into the soup and let the soup soften it up, and then you can eat it.
Tripe Good, try it Italian style: slow simmered for hours in tomato sauce until it melts in your mouth.. deliciosa
Now you're talking my language! I love pho. My Vietnamese friends introduced me to it. We'd go to Pho Hoa, my favorite Vietnamese restaurant in Oklahoma City. Thanks for the memories!
mmmm...I love Pho! I first had it in Seattle at a place called What the Pho, which has forever seared the proper pronunciation in my mind.
I have since tried more traditional versions with the tripe and tendon and liked it very much. If only I could master the art of eating a bowl of it gracefully! I took a co-worker out for some recently and not only could she not bring herself to order it, I think she was a bit embarassed to be at the same table with me.
When you said you were going to do a post about tripe, you scared me. Now I understand. Still not sure I have the stomach to try it, though. My palate is a cultural weenie.
I love Vietnamese food and we have many great places around here, but I confess I've actually never eaten pho. Hard to believe, as I love soup, too. But after watching Food Inc this week, I don't think I'll be eating any beef for a while. Do they have chicken or fish pho??
Thanks to everyone for commenting!

Sorry I haven't been able to individually comment on this one as much, I have a sick kiddo on my hands.

Silkstone - Yes, chicken and seafood pho does exist, but for the most part, beef is traditionally the meat. However, if you'd ever eaten dinner with my former father-in-law who was a USDA inspector at Tyson's, you'd feel differently about chicken, too.

The good news is that you're out on the west coast. You should be able to find a pho place that uses sustainable meats. It all depends on how much you're willing to spend to feel good about what you're eating.

If Americans were willing to eat things that were safe but outside of their comfort zones, we could cut WAY down on the packaging, shipping and abuse in the food production chain.

There's less beef in a regular-sized bowl of pho than there is in a quarter-pound hamburger. Yet, you get veggies, rice noodles and a beautiful soup that fills you up.

If all the parts of the cow didn't have to be shipped to a bazillion processing facilities, imagine the carbon reduction!

And don't even get me started on fish...

Ha!