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JANUARY 26, 2010 10:08AM
Thank God for Tim Tebow - Right After These Messages
Tim Tebow is the second coming of the Christ child according to most Florida fans. If you ask them, he single-handedly delivered two BCS championships, won the 2007 Heisman Trophy and just one touch from Tebow can heal leprosy or rickets. There’s no doubt that Tebow is a magnificent ball player. He’s a great role model, a leader and a very public proponent of abstinence until marriage. I have to applaud the dude’s tenacity in that arena. I can only imagine the legions of women who have thrown themselves at Tim Tebow’s cleats.
Like any admirable young man, he loves his mother. He loves his mother so much that he’s going to appear with her in an ad during the Super Bowl on CBS. Evidently, while on a Christian mission trip to the Philippines in 1987, Pam Tebow got sick while pregnant with her fifth child. Doctors counseled her to have an abortion. She refused and Tim Tebow was born.
All abortion debate aside, that is a heartwarming story. Tebow is a fine young man with amazing prospects. His leadership and squeaky clean image are a welcome change in a world of sports stars who work games into their schedules between weapons arrests and affairs. We do need more Tim Tebows in the world.
But, in spite of the message, many believe that this anti-abortion ad has no place in the commercial line-up on Super Bowl Sunday. My first yellow flag was thrown when I saw who sponsored the ad. This isn’t Nike saying, “Just Do It.” This is Focus on the Family – a conservative Christian group. The funds for the ad, according to Focus on the Family spokesman Gary Schneeberger, came from “very generous friends” rather than the group’s general fund. One thirty second commercial during the Super Bowl is selling for $2.5 - $2.8 million.
Schneeberger was “a little surprised” that the proposed ad has caused a furor. The Women’s Media Center’s Jemhu Greene says, “An ad that uses sports to divide rather than to unite has no place in the biggest national sports event of the year – an event designed to bring Americans together.” She went on to say, “By offering one of the most coveted advertising spots of the year to an anti-equality, anti-choice, homophobic organization, CBS is aligning itself with a political stance that will damage its reputation, alienate viewers and discourage consumers from supporting its shows and advertisers.”
As election seasons stretch out to cover 90% of the year, it’s conceivable that instead of seeing flatulent horses selling Budweiser, we could soon be seeing many more ads bought by political action committees at the Super Bowl. Furthermore, with the recent Supreme Court ruling about corporate political funding, we could soon be seeing “Proposition 8 – Brought to you by Sarah Palin for President and Pepsi. Palin & Pepsi – two great tastes that taste great together!”
I’m sure that Focus on the Family believes that this is not an anti-abortion message on the surface. Instead, they are reminding every woman who is in the heartbreaking position of terminating a pregnancy for any reason that they could be “killing” a Heisman trophy winner. The worst of this for me is that Tebow’s mother is sending the message that women should ignore the advice of their doctors and continue any and all pregnancies, no matter what the peril may be to their own lives.
If Tebow and his mother were telling a different story, perhaps one where she thought she didn’t have the money for another child or she was pregnant out of wedlock, I’d shake my head and say, “There’s another anti-choice ad riding on the backs of someone’s fame and money.” But, this ad actually endangers the lives of women. How many women, just like me, who are told that they might die if they continue a pregnancy, will refuse abortions because they are reminded that the baby they have could be a star?
Football fame is powerful stuff in the south, as is religion and the Focus on the Family group. There is a distinct possibility that women will die because of this ad. It has no place in the Super Bowl or anywhere else. Considering Focus on the Family’s deep association with Rev. Ted Haggard's prostitution and drug scandal, it appears that they would do best to focus on their own families for once.
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littlewillie - I absolutely respect the story and what they are saying. However, I think it sends a dangerous message to women. This isn't about choice/anti-choice for me. This is about influencing women, even an iota, in the direction of endangering their lives for a dangerous pregnancy.
I think this is disingenuous at best, and an outright lie more likely, which is its own irony. It's interesting that CBS got played on this in that FoF gave CBS a Hobson's choice on whether or not to run the ad. It is not "pro", it is "anti" and as such a typical divisive tactic.
I think your point that it presents as an absolute, that it doesn't fit every situation, will be lost in all the hubbub about the ad. A 17 year old pregnant child abandoned by her family should not necessarily get this message from her doctor.
Whether we are pro-choice or anti-abortion, a woman who has been told that her life is in danger should never, EVER have to feel like she's doing something evil by saving her own life.
Janie - I'm all for free speech, but this ad puts me right back at being 22 and scared to death I was going to hell, murdering my baby and killing the next genius. Their story is sweet, but it's being used as a weapon against women and I have a serious problem with that.
Now they're fucking with my football? I may have to write a letter.
*sigh*
I just want to watch some Saints, heckle the screen (because they CAN hear me), and spend a couple hours not worrying about any idiots other than the referees.
There should be.
If you're from the South and you think your unborn baby could become a Heisman Trophy winner, you'ld be crazy to put yourself in that kind of danger. But a NASCAR winner? All bets are off.
Julie - I'd rather see Janet Jackson's nipple.
Mrs. M. - At the risk of making Ann angry - WHO DAT?!?
D - I think women are smarter than to think their kid will be a star, but it's adding to the cultural pressure on women to give their lives for pregnancy. Now, if I thought the kid would win a Pulitzer...
Boanerges - I agree. FoF doesn't mind sticking their nose into people's lives about their sexuality and women's rights, too bad they aren't there when people's homes are foreclosed upon or the light bill doesn't get paid.
I can totally respect Mr. Tebow's story and beliefs - and FoF certainly is within their rights to purchase air time - my reaction is pretty much my own personal revulsion, which is why I'll stop rambling now.
Wow!
I have nothing against religion, I believe in all sorts of things, including Christianity. If they came out with a giant block ad saying, "Don't have an abortion" I would shake my head and keep my mouth shut, but this is just not okay with me. They have the right to their opinion but trying to influence women's medical decisions is not okay in my book.
Spin Doctor - I wonder how many little kids are going to be asking their parents what an abortion is?
Well, I would agree of course Jodi, that people are entitled to their opinions but am disgusted that CBS will allow this to air on superbeauxl Sunday. I was told that similar ads are being aired on FAUX news late at night, which didn't surprise me, but this is soooooo wrong!
In the interest of full disclosure, I am not a Florida fan. In spite of the fact that I live so close to the Jaguar stadium that I can hear the Jimmy Buffett wafting from the Gator Bowl tailgate party, I got burned out on sports in college playing in the band.
I could care less who plays for who, who wins or what the score was. I'll follow (if not watch) the Super Bowl to pull for the Saints because New Orleans needs that victory like they need their next breath. I grew up in Pensacola and the cult of football is a permanent fixture in my life, no matter my level of interest. For me, it's about pulling for a team that represents a city I love that is suffering.
David - My 7th grade math teacher actually got a divorce because they couldn't live with her being for Auburn and him being for Alabama. I suppose they couldn't square up their relgious differences.
Akopsa - This infuriates me. It's sending the message that every baby should be "wanted" because they might be the Golden Ticket. It's disgusting and feeds into the cultural idea that allows for deaths like Dr. Tiller's.
catnmus - Absolutely.
trig - Like I said, they can run what they like, but I don't have to be quiet about it and neither does anyone else.
Deborah - I'm sure they have an entire branch of the police force dedicated to Tebow stalkers.
1_Mom - You know what makes me cry? Curling. I love curling. Moves me to tears every time.
L&P - I think it will run. It's just a different package of the same bill of goods. Our health is a commodity and they are willing to sell it right along with beer and Viagra.
Sactogator - I am wondering how many people out there feel exactly the same way. I truly believe that the story could be inspirational in the right audience, but when blown up to a wider level, it's tawdry and can put lives in danger. They are using a commercial (and Tebow) to sell a bill of goods that can do nothing other than influence women to put their health on the line.
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I don't think this ad will cause women to take risks with their health anymore than fat people think Subway sandwiches will make them thin, that parents think Mcdonald's is good for their kids, or that the maritally challenged woman is just one FDS spray away from landing Prince Charming.
As for offensive: what about those who find consumption of alcohol offensive, or who are offended by the earlier mentioned Go Daddy ads?
I'm only a little surprised about how many are in favor of free speech only as long as they agree with the message.
Frankly , I feel the message as presented in writing is one that needs to be heard. You'll never hear from Planned Parenthood, which makes million from referrals to abortion Drs that abortion isn't always the best option.
Really? are y'all in favor of choice or only ONE choice?
Furthermore, I don't think anyone believes that women aren't aware that they have the choice to not have an abortion. I also say they have the full right to run the message repeatedly. I said I don't like it, I think it's misleading and the message adds to the culture of fear that causes women to continue pregnancies that put their lives in danger.
I speak from experience on this one. When I was told by a hospital in Mississippi that I would have to actually have the inevitable stroke I was facing before they could perform an abortion to save my life, I went to the nearest clinic and saved the mother of the children that were already here.
Anyone who thinks abortion is easy should try it without anesthesia as I did by Mississippi State law.
I had to do that through masses of people screaming and threatening me because they believed what I was doing was wrong. I believe in choice on both sides. I'm not holding a gun to anyone's head and telling them they have to get an abortion, but the other side sure as hell threatened me EXACTLY because of messages like this one.
I don't like messages that add to that culture of pain and suffering for women making that heartbreaking choice. That may be "off the mark" to you, but these types of messages made the hardest, most painful thing I ever had to do a thousand times worse. I'll stand against that every single time. They have the right to do it, but it doesn't make it right.
Schneeberger is not the least bit surprised this is causing a "furor" or at least no more than the Pope would be surprised to hear there had been rampant praying at the latest Mass in support of Haiti.
Perhaps hotter babes on the commercials either side of their commercial would even things out. Anything's worth a try.
I see him getting drafted by a horrible team, being anointed the team's future, and then stinking up the joint and getting cut. I'm not sure if he'll be as bad of a bust as Ryan Leaf or Jamarcus Russell, but he'll be likely to rival at least Heath Schuler or Brian Bosworth.
It's hard to wrap my head around the whole thing - of course anyone who buys ad time is allowed free speech, etc. - but it all seems somewhat murkier than that to me.
I look forward to reading more comments!
It reminds me of a commercial I see on t.v., with a little boy who feeds his broccoli to the dog. Why, obviously he dosen't want to eat the broccoli. The announcer steps in and declares, "whos eating the broccoli in your house"? The dog whimpers and waits under the table, and the kid looks up towards the cieling as though to say, "not me". I find the add culpable in helping kids place two and two together, that rules can be broken, and if you don't like your greens feed them to the dog. Rather than face up to the fact, your kid dosen't like veggies. No crime, why can't we just digest one moresel at a time, and why be vacant about what we do like? When really on all aspects, we may like the idea of being abstinete, but the idea of problem pregancy is a whole other area of concern. The main point is that once people are pregant, they may not wish to play god, and may conclude there is a 50/50 chance the doctor may be wrong. Then what? in areas such as pregancy, there is no exact science, mother nature is fickel, sometimes the less known the better. Other times, if medical science can determine certain problems and can help, then that is different by all means. I am not bias here, but in other areas, that may be gray, people are going to be joyful of pregancy, stressful of preganacy, and worried, it is all par for the course.
Dr. Steve - Thanks for going back to that ancient relic. The story of losing my baby and the resulting experiences is one of the driving forces behind my views on abortion and a big reason why I came to Open Salon. It's important to know that not every abortion at a clinic is a choice and not every mother who loses their child is "irresponsible."
1. Florida is composed of an entire team. I didn't see him out on the field playing alone the past few years; and
2. The Super Bowl? I don't think this is a time or place where the message would be heard or appreciated. Send it to The Inspirational Network, or Trinity Broadcasting Network.
Oh by the way: As a southerner it's God, family, country, THEN football. So it's in the top 5! (Racing I believe might rank as #5, although I'm not a fan of that myself).
Smile and have a great day!
And maybe you should be proud of your abortion. That you lived to raise your two children and had two more. Thats about as pro life as you can get. I mean, real life. (based on your earlier abortion posts -- if I read them correctly).
The women that WERE irresponsible.
I would cut them some slack. Its a choice, and their body.
Lets face it, people make bad choices daily, hourly.....
They don't get a total do over, but they do the best that they can. I give them that much credit.
These fake christians did not see the homeless child Rachel and Her Children examined, it only saw abortion as a sin against their invented Christ. If Christ were alive today, they would not allow him in their holy places because he looked too much like an Arab and spoke with a Middle East accent.
I have had enough of public religion and Family Values in the past 8 years to last me two lifetimes. Maybe after they finish convincing the Africans to kill all the gays in the name of some freak god of hate and bigotry, they'll come back and get the rest of US.
One year before Tim Tebow was born, my daughter was born, three months prematurely after considerable distress in utero. Not knowing about the advances medicine had made in treating prematurity, we expected to lose the baby and had warned both of our families that we might have to terminate the pregnancy. Fortunately, my wife’s ob/gyn sent us to the nearest Neonatal Intensive Care Unit, where our little “miracle baby” was born at 1 pound 14 ounces. Today she is a healthy 23-year-old whose wedding I posted about last year. I can’t imagine our life without her being a major part of it.
However, I take a different lesson from this than do the Tebows. Our situation was unique. My wife’s health was not at issue. We wanted a child and were prepared for the financial consequences of bringing her into the world, which is not always the case with troubled pregnancies. In fact, we were able to withstand a troublesome and somewhat expensive first year of our life. We had family in place for assistance. At each step of the decision-making, it was “our choice” in consultation with medical experts. I can’t imagine having had the government looking over our shoulders as we made some of the most difficult decisions in our lives.
That said, not having seen Tebow’s ad, I have no objection to it, though I agree it has no place on Super Bowl Sunday. It’s refreshing that an athlete stands up for a principle, even one I disagree with, without considering the bottom line or his public reputation. And as long as the ad does not push to criminalize abortion, but rather pushes a “choose life” message, I’ll even welcome it – because it will inadvertently agree with a “pro-choice” message. Because Mrs. Tebow made a “choice” (however medically ill-advised), just as my wife and I made a choice. Just as every pregnant woman should be allowed to make a choice.
Yeah, Tim Tebow's "squeaky clean image" is refreshing in contrast with thug jocks.... but, so was Tiger's. Could be just sour grapes on my part, but the way he wears his jeebus on his sleeve irks me.
(wow, pardon my potty mouth)
CBS sucks. In fact it is rapidly getting to the point where television as a whole sucks. I long for the days where the news was real and not manufactured and spun, and when "entertainment" television actually, uh, entertained us.
So, I guess not being a football fan I have to ask - does he play for a college team? Or is he a pro? See, if he's still in college I question how much he is being PAID to be in this ad and how that jibes with his status.
2.5 mil for a 30-second spot. Wonder how much good that would do in Haiti.
Oh well, reports from practices have been that Tebow isn't very impressive thus far and has seemingly started the journey to H-back/Wildcat star/box office device for which he is destined.
@ SherritheWriter- My experience in the South has been that "God, family, country, THEN football" is in error. It's God, family, football, state, region THEN country." Tea Baggers have revealed a lot.
I know how I feel about abortion. I know how important it is to protect women's right to choose. I feel, however, this is not the forum to bring up debate, enlightened or otherwise.
I hadn't thought of the statement you make above, though I was aware of Mrs. Tebow's diagnosis many years ago and the resulting miracle baby. And I do like Tim Tebow, he's a great guy. But you couldn't be more right, and I am ashamed I didn't catch that part: if this commercial basically counsels that it's not only acceptable but preferable and appopriate to ignore your doctor's directions, then I cannot in any way, shape or form condone this ad. Thanks for enlightening me.
As for giving women credit, I think we should go even further than that. Even if not a single woman is swayed by the ad, I make my patented "Disapproving Jodi Face" in the general direction of this ad for other reasons. It adds to the divisive climate facing women at the clinic door.
I've been on both sides of that clinic door for most of my life and I can tell you, they will put ANYTHING on a sign. They will say ANYTHING to women to stop them. The last thing we need is #15 on a sign outside Florida abortion clinics that already have weekly bomb threats.
That's why I say, I don't care IF they run the ad. I can't stop them and I wouldn't try. I care about the sentiment. Women facing agonizing health issues who are trying to decide whether or not to gamble their lives on a child that may or may not survive should not have to face this too. But, they do. So, I'm adding my voice to those in support of women making health choices.
Tebow's story is what is at issue here. I support the complete right to safe and legal abortion and a woman's private right to make that choice for any reason. But, the story at hand is about a woman counseled by her doctor to terminate a pregnancy for health reasons who chose to do otherwise and had a good outcome. We all know that miracles happen. We all have heard or even experienced stories where people live against horrifying odds.
But, the truth is that doctors don't tell you to get an abortion because it's fun or profitable. They do it to save as many lives as possible. Almost 11 years later, I am here today to torture myself wondering if I could have beaten the odds only because I chose not to try.
I suggest everyone who feels this way to do the same, and to encourage their friends to do the same. I suggest listening to the Superbowl over ESPN radio over the internet.
I can't say I think this ad is a good idea, mostly because it seems like a lot of money that could be spent in better ways, but I am a firm believer in the First Amendment - especially for ideas I disagree with. In any case, I won't see it, because nobody in our house cares about football. (Tragedy, I know.)
One comment you made struck me:
"It adds to the divisive climate facing women at the clinic door. "
This is the heart of the matter for me, and why I can never join the anti brigade. They have taken an extremely personal medical decision which affects people they don't even know and turned it into a political issue (I almost wrote 'football'). Worst of all, (apart from actual crimes committed in the name of this "movement"), they seem totally oblivious, each and every one, to the phrase: "Mind your own business."
This makes them fanatics, and they have poisoned the entire discussion with their fanaticism.
No one ever died from a Television commercial.
My opinion is that there are way to make sure you can't get pregnant, none fully guaranteed, but if they want to be sexually active then they should do something about it. Same if a man doesn't want children at all, then he also should have it taken care of.
I almost died and almost lost my oldest daughter during child birth. When I was pregnant with my youngest, and they are 13 months apart. The doctors told me I wouldn't be able to carry her, it would be my life or the babies life or both. They had an abortion scheduled, I went to the clinic- I can still see it in my mind and smell it when it crosses my mind. I couldn't do it and told the doctors "There is Science and then there is God. I will leave it up to God." Got dressed and walked out the door. Doctors, 1st husband(their father) and family was so pissed off at me for making that choice, because I could have lost my life and I still had a baby at home to take care of.
I almost lost her several times and bed ridden for the last 4 months. But she was born and looked like a beautiful angel laying in my arms. She is now 24 yrs old , married and a mother herself.
After she was born the doctors forced me to have my tubes tied,even if I was divorced, only 20, because they said the next one would kill me.
Since I had my tubes tied 24 yrs ago, since then I only had one pregnancy and miscarried the baby. It broke my heart into and It tore me up inside, I cried for days, I now understand the describe as the "feeling of emptiness". It was something I have never had to deal with in my life, and I think the hardest.
I just think there are reasons to have them and reasons not to have them. Medical reasons and rape is the two I would agree with, but the others, there are steps they can take to make sure they don't get pregnant.
Sorry I have rambled on here, it is a subject I hold very dear to my heart and I am very passionate about. If I listened to my doctors 25 years ago I would not have my amazing, beautiful, talent and intelligent daughter now.
Thank you for a great post..
If this group really wants to follow the teachings of the Prophet they claim, they would use that energy and that money to feed and educate the poor and advocate for universal healthcare. Sadly, fundamentalists are too often as ignorant of their own religion as they are of politics.
The Tebow story is reminds me of the anti-abortion spam-mail that circulates with a mother pregnant with her eighth child who will be become deaf. Should she abort? The email intones that if you say yes, you have just murdered Beethoven.
This scenario relies on a false premise in that the determinant comes after the fact, but if one wants to construct a hypothetical to justify their position, how about this one: The wife of a rabbi is pregnant and the child in her womb is Hitler -- tell me, absolutists, should she abort?
There is a much greater possibility that babies will live because of this ad. In any event, I'll go with free speech.
I'm rather surprised that after all this time organized religion is still sp powerful in this country when it is clearly being used to coordinate more effective thievery by groups like Focus on the Family (you don't really think this is about anything but making more money, do you? Really?).
Tebow is another cynical athlete calling attention to himself. The gimmick he uses is just easier to swallow for all of those white Christians.
Personally, I preferred the football player who changed his name to "He hate me"
I'm astonished that what passes for hate-speech from the pro-abortionists is when someone says that they are glad they chose to have their son rather than abort him.
Really? That's what y'all consider "hateful" . Have you been so indoctrinated that you believe it is hateful to say your glad your child was born? And those who would say how great it was that they aborted their child is praticing peaceful, kind, loving speech???
I think some of you may need to really review your ideas and ideals.
Or maybe it's okay if we qualify our hate speech, ie I'm glad I had my baby but it's okay if you kill yours. Now that would be loving speech,,,, kinda. It would still be better if you left off the part about you being glad because you might cause someone to rethink their abortion decision.
If we remove heated opinion, everyone can agree that abortion is not a positive outcome to a pregnancy or a young woman's life. No woman who has ever had an abortion says, "Wow! That felt GREAT! Let's do that again!"
Whether any of us agree with Focus on the Family's policies, they are a political action group with the complete right to buy ad time on any program they wish. I say that repeatedly in spite of my disagreement politically with their stance.
No one here is saying that this woman's sharing of her miraculous story is hateful. We're saying that the use of that story to further a political agenda which directly counters the accepted pro-life stance of allowing for abortion in cases of the mother's life being endangered goes against medical advice, common sense and their own stated values.
It is reminding women that a roll of the dice in defiance of medical advice could result in a miracle. I think that's dangerous and I HAVE been in that situation.
If we could all take our political posturing out of it and truly HEAR the stories of women on both sides, the rhetoric would become much less shrill. Not long ago, you agreed that humanizing the debate through personal experience was key.
Using experiences to influence women to ignore medical advice is questionable at best for me. Her story should be told because it is inspiring for women who would never have an abortion in any case. Using it in a paid political advertisement is sick to me, though. They have the right, but I have the right to say it disgusts me, too. It's no less ridiculous than me saying that a woman's life could be improved if she purposely got pregnant to have the joy of an abortion.
I was never offended by Tebow's wearing of Bible quotes on his eye black, or his prison preaching or mission work, because that was his business. He never said anything outwardly intolerant of other religions or beliefs - he merely stated his own. Tebow was homeschooled and raised by extremely religious, conservative, evangelical parents who are professional missionaries. So his worldview is very skewed. As he went through college, he seemed to become more sophisticated in his public image, but he is still a product of his upbringing as we all are. Now he is an adult and a professional, and he is taking a more strident step - although we have not seen the actual ad.
I don't feel any ill will toward Tebow, as he is merely following his heart and standing by his beliefs, but I wish he was not going to the lengths of participating in a paid Super Bowl ad to project these beliefs, because those of us who have been fans of his football play now must consider whether we can be fans of someone we disagree with on a very important issue. I'm not sure how I feel about it. I wonder why CBS would accept this ad, but not the UCC ad a few years ago - because the UCC ad was more "liberal"?
Sometimes athletes or actors or musicians will say or do things that offend you - but you then feel, should I still root for them? See their movies? Buy their music? Should I still root for Tebow? I'll have to see the ad. He is who he is - he's a very religious, fundamentalist Christian. This stance should be no surprise to anyone. I've seen other famous people pop up on the "700 Club" and other shows that I find offensive personally - it always makes me uncomfortable to keep rooting for them.
I AM offended by the ad - and I haven't even seen it. Because I know the bullshit rhetoric and propaganda that it will spew. I AM offended by the totality of the message, including the one you have point with.
But mainly I'm offended by this never-ending and expansive ignorance that's replaced common sense and freedom of choice and always seem to screw over a woman in its blazing path of stupidity.
Your Palin Pepsi comparison is too scary - because it WILL BE THE SHAPE OF THINGS TO COME. It already is.
With any luck, he won't be drafted, and he can go into the ministry where he belongs, and fade away quietly
They offered counseling to Haggard, which he bailed on after a short time. That's it.
This is a real stretch at guilt-by-association.
And as anti -football fan , I wish Superbowl Sunday was STILL in January! It's my damn birthday weekend, and there's football all over the place!!! It's FEBRUARY for Pete's sake!
1) Let everyone who saw the ad know that in the Philippines abortion is illegal. Has been since 1930. Therefore, the doctors would have been risking their medical licenses - plus jail time - if they had "recommended" an abortion. Conclusion: Mommy is a big fat liar.
2) Little Timmy Tebow is eligible for the NFL draft. If you are a football fan, urge your local/favorite team to pass on him. They can't want protesters boycotting their football game, can they?
I cheer Tim Tebow and his choices. I wish more young people these days would exercise such restraint. But call it what it is...somehow FOTF is greasing his family's palms with tax free dollars.
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