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Jodi Kasten

Jodi Kasten
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Jacksonville, Florida, USA
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October 27
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Professional Mommy, Professional Food Writer at EatJax.com, Freelance Writer, Non-committal Paranormal Investigator, Folklorist, All Around Nice Girl

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AUGUST 25, 2010 12:02AM

A Scandalous Confession...

Rate: 28 Flag

I have deleted this blog entry. Evidently, present actions are bringing up past hurt. I apologize for allowing my temper to get the best of me.

This place, which once brought me so much joy, has brought me nothing but pain for pretty much this whole year. My heart throbs around the black hole that used to be the family I had here.

I miss you, my OpenFamily. I stopped doing anything but mirroring my food posts long ago, but I desperately cling to the best of the friends I've made here.

Sadly, what caused this deleted post was an abortive attempt at making another one long ago. Sometimes, it just doesn't work out. That doesn't mean I should hold onto it for months then blame someone else when I lose my temper. For that I'm sorry. But, if you think for a moment that I don't believe people will get a charge out of that, you must be new. I hope that if nothing else, this brightened someone's day. Enjoy the hell out of that. You deserve it. My class and dignity tank is empty.

I just can't be here. What once brought out the best in me now brings out the worst. Watch out or it'll empty you too. You'll wake up one day and realize you've become what you hated.

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I'm rating this, even if it isn't about me.
It is about you, Surly.
I'm pretty sure you shot JFK, you old bag.
Nah. I was too busy banging Cary Grant in the back of a Buick.
This is why we can't have nice things.
Oh WE can have nice things.... THEY can't.
You are a cruel wench Jodi. What is this 'paid for writing' thing anyway?
I admit it. I am Greg Thomas.
Surl - Little do they know that the really important CoolKids are much meaner than CrazyDrawers.

Karin - I would like to reap clean dishes now. I've been providing them for so long.

Triglet - I paid you in deep satisfaction, didn't I?

Sandra - I KNEW IT!!!
Of course you did. No one is as perfect as I have been pretending to be.

p.s. are you talking about the secret writing group, or the double top secret writing group?
Sandra/Greg - This is just about the secret writing group. If we told them about the double top secret writing group, they'd hate us. Um... yeah... they already hate us. But, at least they are hating my real name. I can't say I get the pleasure with most of them.
For what it's worth, you've been on my milk carton for a while. Glad to see you around again. And I've been around long enough that I *get* the Greg Thomas joke. I feel special! LOL!
jenshrader - That definitely makes you a cool kid. Get in line for spankies.

I do have a bit of advice for everyone wanting to get into the Crazypantsers - go to platform 9 3/4 at King's Cross station in London - then ram yourself into a brick column. I don't know if you'll get in or not, but please post the results on YouTube.

Karin - I need to start sowing money. You're right.
I laugh at your posts, you are funny and creative, I really don't think about your writing groups too much, I hope they are productive, as they seem to be as some have gone forward to write in other venues. I personally am happy for you, I have my own life, friends and career that allow me to play around with OS. I am sorry this person has relayed this feeling to you, I don't think it is indicative of most people here. If you are making it work, more power to you and those that help you along the way.
rita - You know what the trouble is here? Not enough spliffs.

Emma - Have a spliff. There's no room here for honesty. One day I'll get REALLY honest and just post all the emails and pms I've saved over two years. Of course, the ones between the two of us have been delightful, but it would be an education in regard to most everyone else's communiques. Some days it pays to be a little OCD.
Ah, Jodi. It's always so nice to see another one of the hateful old timers around here. I remain pretty scarce here myself, particularly as I can (and do) earn real cash money for my writing and prefer not to give it away for free. (It is a little like your Mom warned you--if you are giving milk away for nothing, ain't nobody gonna want you, you old cow.)

But I am also really put off by the weird stuff going on behind the scenes here; it's like kids passing notes in class that say, "Jodi told me a secret. Wanna know what it is?" It seems to have subverted the purpose of the site--the "community" is now more important than the writing or other creative endeavors on offer.

I also think there is a tremendous amount of projecting going on. It's gotten to the point that every time someone throws out a veiled accusation I assume it is something that they are doing, so they assume everyone else must be doing it to.

Just be upfront and honest people, and let the chips fall where they may. Jodi has just given you a great example of how to do it. With a lot of class, no less.
And one other thing... can someone please tell me how to write a comment in under 500 words? Sheesh.
I remain confused by this uproar, but I DO remember Greg Thomas. Hahaha
Now I know. Thanks for the info, and good luck.
@Stellaa - What up? Am I not perfect too? I'm so not telling you how to find the club house now!
Does this cabal come with a secret decoder ring?
For the first time in my history here, I am deleting a comment. Emma used XYZ's name. This is her comment in its entirety, the name is only changed.

I don't know about anything! I didn't know there was a critique group of writers, I don't know who anybody's alters are, and I found XYZ's post a total mystery. I am very very tired of people who don't say what they mean yet attack others who are honest and open for being "mean" and "elitist."

There is a whole lot of jealousy and mistrust and bitchery in these parts lately (probably always was but I went through an extended honeymoon period) and it's exhausting. For me, the old Groucho Marx quote applies: I wouldn't want to be a part of a club that would have me for a member. :)


Emma Peel
There are secret writers here? And you talk to each other psychically or with body language? I'm gonna go light some candles and see what the wind blows in. Or maybe not...... And I'm really pissed that surly was doing Cary Grant and I was not!!
While everybody is dropping turds in the punchbowl, I would like to take this opportunity to say ...

T H U N D E R C U N T

that is all.
I am impressed that people are using OS as a catalyst to ACTUALLY IMPROVE THEIR WRITING, ETC. The comment format here is a bit limited for any serious feedback.

I am an amateur, doing it for fun, and have mixed feelings about really working at improving as a writer. Being exposed to professionals has been interesting/educational and enough to convince me to stick to my day job.

As far as women being pissed off. As a male, I am quite accustomed to it and suggest that it is inevitable as well as not surprising or especially upsetting.

Further, the REASON for this expression of anger is the notion that someone thinks that there is some sort of exclusionary clique. A "dog bites man" bit of information.

I would advise everyone to just let it go, except that no one is taking it all that seriously, minus a tad bit of venting.

But, seriously, those that are approaching writing in a professional manner have my admiration and I hope that OS can be at least a small positive.
I am impressed that people are using OS as a catalyst to ACTUALLY IMPROVE THEIR WRITING, ETC. The comment format here is a bit limited for any serious feedback.

I am an amateur, doing it for fun, and have mixed feelings about really working at improving as a writer. Being exposed to professionals has been interesting/educational and enough to convince me to stick to my day job.

As far as women being pissed off. As a male, I am quite accustomed to it and suggest that it is inevitable as well as not surprising or especially upsetting.

Further, the REASON for this expression of anger is the notion that someone thinks that there is some sort of exclusionary clique. A "dog bites man" bit of information.

I would advise everyone to just let it go, except that no one is taking it all that seriously, minus a tad bit of venting.

But, seriously, those that are approaching writing in a professional manner have my admiration and I hope that OS can be at least a small positive.
I am impressed that people are using OS as a catalyst to ACTUALLY IMPROVE THEIR WRITING, ETC. The comment format here is a bit limited for any serious feedback.

I am an amateur, doing it for fun, and have mixed feelings about really working at improving as a writer. Being exposed to professionals has been interesting/educational and enough to convince me to stick to my day job.

As far as women being pissed off. As a male, I am quite accustomed to it and suggest that it is inevitable as well as not surprising or especially upsetting.

Further, the REASON for this expression of anger is the notion that someone thinks that there is some sort of exclusionary clique. A "dog bites man" bit of information.

I would advise everyone to just let it go, except that no one is taking it all that seriously, minus a tad bit of venting.

But, seriously, those that are approaching writing in a professional manner have my admiration and I hope that OS can be at least a small positive.
Jesus.... this place eats my comments, and then triple posts them when they are barely intelligible.
i need some spliffs or as Zuma says spleefs....
@Irrritated: Referring to the Bieber/Kardashian hook up? Hot dogs down hallways...Just saying.
Jodi I have always enjoyed your writing and appreciate that you live in "Bubbaville" I mean Jacksonville where I endured my childhood. You are always a clear voice and stand proudly behind your opinions.
I have no doubt you are a "good" witch here, so carry on and pass that spliff!
"the brutally abused semicolon"

I've been accused of loving my semicolons too much.
Sorry about all those PMs. I get a little sendy when I'm drunk.
I rated this cause there is too much chickes%^t going on around here and because you're an all around nice girl.
So let me get this straight: people can form a group in order to perfect their writing and not just to gang up on others? What a great idea. Maybe if all of us put more effort into our writing, whether professional or not, this place could once again become the smart, quality writing forum it used to be.
I wish I had any idea who any of these players are! ;-)

I spent the last year WRITING poetry, not getting paid for it, and ignoring bullshit. SO for my efforts, I now am out of the loop, know nothing, and am still not getting paid.

Can I come to your next meeting? I would bring cake.
THEREFORE: I am obviously not XY or Z .
AND: I do not actually know anything about any of this.
BUT: I have a plate in your house and you could eat a CLUB sandwich off of it; that makes me a player!

NOTE: semi colon accurately and appropriately applied while using alternate formats to keep and sustain interest in comment that if one rather than two, would have easily topped 500 words

Consider this my writing sample for admission in your group. I am funny and can aquire and bring cake to aforementioned meetings. Thank you for your consideration, My Queen.
First, nice to see you again, Jodi. You've been missed.

Second, I suppose I'm one of those "elitist" assholes on OS who got paid for writing (and editing) for 40 years. Because I went through an intensive -- and necessary -- learning period back in the day, I recognize that not everyone is a gifted writer right out of the box. It takes work and encouragement. The people on my friends list are those in whom I saw a spark of something. Often, they've improved their skills; sometimes they haven't. Ca va.

Third, the current brouhaha will, like its predecessors, die away.

Fourth, I do think the "rules" as laid out by the Crazypants cabal were in part mean-spirited (but only in part). I know of at least one person on here who felt targeted -- although I personally don't think that person was -- and, I fear, may now be absent. That's wrong.
Personally, I prefer my children braised with just a dollop of mint jelly. Just the way mom used to make it.

And for the record, Surly wasn't banging Cary Grant in a Buick. It was Gil Gerard in the back of a Chevy Nova.
I've responded on my blog Jodi.
You know what - never even mind. Never mind at all. I am... what? Silly. I'm silly. That business with her post had nothing to do with me. Just keep on truckin'. I wasn't here before and I'm not here now.

I'm not going to be the one calling people out by name.

I'll leave all the calling out and hatred to others.
I'll toast to better days right along with you, Jodi. You probably know by now that I dig your writing, and your general attitude and take on things . . . this is no different. Be good to yourself, Spartacus, and rock on.
I've said it before and I'll say it again:

Wait--people went to Vegas?

Rated.
OK, here's my own scandalous confession: I don't get the point of 99% of the meta that pops up here. I generally have absolutely NO idea what people are referring to that is supposedly common knowledge and I can't figure out why people are so worked up. Yes, that other 1% of meta has sucked me in a few times. But I'll testify again from personal experience that it actually is possible to be here and simply write, read, rate, be friends with people and avoid virtually all meta (or would that be all virtual meta)? And I don't think I'm alone. I think lots of folks here don't even notice stuff that seems obvious to the people who are involved.
Ah well Jodi, to use the cliched "high school" analogy:

There are the A students and then there is everyone else. The difference now is, the B, C, and D students were not smart enough to be envious of us back then. Now they are both envious and bitter. Just about anyone who has ever been accused of being one of the OS "big kids", "mean girls" or whatever negative connotation is their flavor of the day, is one of the A students.

You and your group of professional writers represent the literary and artistic A+ superstars of the Class of OS (and the classiness of OS for that matter). OS is (was?) very fortunate to have you. I'm glad you can still feel fondness for this Place :-)
Jodi, I am saddened to see this....

"I'm not going to be the one calling people out by name.

I'll leave all the calling out and hatred to others."


That's just not right Jodi. You DID call me out...and you DID call my name and you ARE being a little hateful. I'm still in the dark as to why you felt the need.
I haz big love for you.
This is really kind of painful to read and makes me think that sometimes history is best left in the past rather than refuel the pain and increase the confusion. I truly hope you can work things out.

Besides, it is no fun to read because is isn't all about 'me' :)
Good luck to you both......seriously.
Noli me vocare, ego te vocabo.
I was going to send Nelle a PM saying how thoroughly I agree with her, but then, well, I'd be part of the behind-the-scenes cabal, so:

Ditto Nelle.

Particularly this: But I'll testify again from personal experience that it actually is possible to be here and simply write, read, rate, be friends with people and avoid virtually all meta (or would that be all virtual meta)? And I don't think I'm alone. I think lots of folks here don't even notice stuff that seems obvious to the people who are involved.

I also wanted to say that there are some wonderful, talented new writers here and I hate the suggestion that all the "good ones" have gone. For sure many have, and I miss them like crazy. But for goodness sakes, look at 2SB, and Persistent Muse, and Ann Nichols, among many others.

Oh, and CINDY ROSS.
You said it, Nelle.

I mean, I always get the feeling that there's something going on around here just under the surface, but this place is much too big to really get a handle on it if you're not directly involved in it.

So, I persist as an outsider. But, I have to say that I sense the undercurrents, and I feel like there's some big mysterious thing going on that I'm just too stupid to get.
I have a confession too. I never read your writing I just stop by occasionally to look at your gorgeous eyes.

Well, maybe I read too :-)
I didn't see the original post but I get what you're saying here: you have no heart. And whose fault is that? OS is the mirror, not the cause; don't invert things. Let us know when you lose your taste for self-pity, it's a taste no one ever likes.
I just wanted to say, I miss the good old days, when we had nice things, what happened?

Oh yeah, I showed up.

Sorry, I won't say I didn't mean to piddle on the carpet though, it wouldn't be the truth.

**Wanders off into the bushes**
"I'll leave all the calling out and hatred to others." Would that include me, lady? You and I have been on this site for a long time. I have never had any contact or interaction with you ever until you used the comment section on your Crazedpanties friends post to mock me to get attention from your cabal of friends. You attacked Gabby Abby for no reason in your mean, unwarranted post. Now this confessional and as is to be forgiven? Sure, why not? Everyone deserves forgiveness if sincere. Excuse me for being a bit dubious. Very clever- are there only 33 Sirens now that you have left?
I post here when I think I have something to say; when I don't, I don't. Sometimes, people get bent out of shape about something I post--I pissed off digby once, for example--but I don't have enough people who read my nonsense for it to rise to the level of obsessing me. So it doesn't.

For what it's worth.