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AUGUST 28, 2008 3:23AM

Buyer's Remorse?

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Denver, August 27, 2008

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Biden's speech tonight was good, but not great.  It was clear the speech was not entirely his (welcome to Obama World, Joe!) as the senator did not deliver consistently throughout his monologue, stumbling most when the words were not describing his life or his own world view.  Watch the replay, concentrate on the listener's faces immediately after the speech ended and you will see clear evidence of the first let-down of this DNC.  Admittedly, Biden's time slot following Bill Clinton was certainly not ideal.  No question, this was a challenge for the newly minted VP candidate.  

Still, I have to wonder whether Barack Obama's "unscripted and unexpected" appearance on stage after Biden's speech would have happened at all (or at least for as long) had Biden "hit it out of the park" as all of the previous prime-time speakers had done.  Did Obama cash in a chip here?  I think so.  And to cover the marker, watch Biden become party pit bull starting Thursday on the morning gabfests.

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Well - it was better than John Edwards' and Joe Lieberman's from the past two conventions.

Plus...he could have just said 'gobbledeegobbledeegooobygoobygoo" after his mom was featured. JOE BIDEN'S MOM FOR PRESIDENT!
Oh please--we've all become body-language/speech detective/teleprompter reading/experts like the non-stop critic-pundits who are, by and large, IMHO, a huge pain in the ear. Biden, as you say, was good and that's all he needed to be. The big, knockem outta the park (yes, I'm sick of that metaphor) oration will be/must be Obama's!
I didn't think he was all that bad, though clearly "speechifying" is not his strength. However, he's very down to earth and people like that about him. His "story" is compelling and folks can relate to him, because he's not so polished. I look forward to the debates, because I think he will do well.
Joe,

I completely agree with you. I said to my husband last night, "He's really screwing up a bunch of words."

I'm not a picky person, but I've seen enough of Joe Biden's speeches that he is usually impeccable.

I think the way he is able to speak so forcefully and forthrightly is one of the many reasons he was picked.

Whether or not he was cashing in his chip, I think Obama appearing was a great choice and a great moment.
I would suggest that Biden probably didn't have as much time to prepare and rehearse this speech as he probably usually does. Despite a few word stumblings, it was a darn good speech. His pivot to criticize John McCain was particularly skillful.
ST,

I agree. He got much better as the speech went on. And the criticism of McCain was powerful.
(1) Biden often has speaking problems.
(2) apparently, the medias had word of Obama's impending appearance about halfway through the speech. With that kind of timing, I'm gonna wager that OBama's appearance was arranged before Biden even began speaking.
He lost me with his story about bloodying another's nose so that he could walk down the street proudly. He just going with what he was taught growing up. My heroes are those who have taken a punch and do not hit back. They can hold their heads up around here any time.
He's. I wish we could edit these comments!
Joe did fine. A bit lackluster at times, but admirable, likeable, trustworthy, statesmanlike, experienced, tested, everything they need him to be for the ticket. All the better he lulls the McCain team now and builds momentum as the campaign gears up.

I wonder that no one has mentioned Beau. His speech was almost pitch perfect, for the convention, for the viewers, for Middle America, Barack, for his dad, for Jill. How touching and poignant when he said, "my brothers and my dad married Jill." And then, when talked about his father always taking care of him, and, re leaving for a tour in Iraq, said, "I won't be here in the Fall, so please, take care of my father." Whew.

And I have to wonder why, considering the country's anti-war sentiments, Rep Patrick Murphy (D, PA), young Iraq war vet, surrounded by other Iraq war vets wasn't given more air play. The media would rather listen to themselves and each other than cover the real convention.

SSDD
Somewhere I read a comment in which someone interpreted Biden's bloody nose remark to be emblematic of his approach to foreign policy.

I had a different take... that he was just about to start bloodying John McCain's nose (metaphorically speaking). And then he did.

No one can honestly say that the Democrats have purposefully picked these last electoral fights with the GOP. Nor can we say that the nominee (or any surrogates, for that matter) have fought back. This time, I hope we'll see something different.

It won't be like having a Tom DeLay-style (no-holds-barred) knockdown, drag-out fight, where it's all about the Power. This will be about the issues. Given Biden's long friendship with McCain, he's perfectly positioned to do the job.
I think you've missed the point regarding message that Barack Obama wants to send with the Democrat's convention and the selection of Joe Biden as the vice presidential candidate.

The message is a heart-felt concern for the struggle's of the American family, and Joe Biden's speech was perfect in delivering that message.

Biden has never been seen as a "slick" politician. His charm, and his benefit to the ticket, is his ability to connect heart-to-heart with voters. Most of morning-after commentary on Biden's speech gives him high marks for being real, and for sharing his deep love for his family and his country. That was his and Barack's goal, and he accomplished it.