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DECEMBER 10, 2008 9:34AM

It's Time For Christians To Rethink Homosexuality

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In the noisy and bitter aftermath of Proposition 8’s failure in California, national protests by gay and straight groups are sweeping the country.  Today is Day Without A Gay Day and gays are being encouraged to call in sick and donate the time to help in the battle for gay marriage.

Their efforts might gain even more traction if the issue were exclusively political.  But it isn't.  The gay marriage issue isn’t really about marriage, it’s about homosexuality which, like abortion, is viewed by Christians as a moral issue and not a political one.

Morality, however, is a fruitless avenue of debate because morality implies choice.  Morality implies that gays have chosen their particular “lifestyle,” no different from choosing what car to buy or where to invest one’s money.  Discussion these days about homosexuality and, by extension, gay marriage, needs to be re-framed in scientific terms.  With all due respect to The Bible, what would it mean for Christians to realize that homosexuality is genetic, no different from being born with cerebral palsy or six toes, blue eyes or black hair, gifted with genius or athleticism, burdened with low intelligence, blessed with great beauty or distressed by homeliness?  

Since Christianity preaches that God loves all his creations, from the slow to the swift, doesn’t it follow that we Christians must accept the homosexual in the same spirit?  It becomes not a matter of morality, which is inherently and correctly judgmental, but rather a matter of faith in the very God who made them…and us.

Genetics renders morality irrelevant.  We can’t be judgmental about biology.  As God’s creatures, we are given what He gives us, case closed.  The real immorality occurs when we marginalize or discard those creatures born not to our liking or convenience despite the biology.  We don’t judge a child with Down Syndrome, for instance, so why do we judge the homosexual!

If homosexuality is genetically hardwired, then it is not a “lifestyle,” which is generally freely and consciously chosen.  Genetics gives homosexuals no choice at all.  If it did, that would mean that an otherwise intelligent, often very artistic and talented person deliberately selects a pattern of behavior that is guaranteed to bring him vilification, ridicule and contempt.  Who in his right mind would invite this rebuke for their entire lives? Our natural survival instincts, indeed, common sense, would eliminate homosexuality as a deliberate lifestyle choice.  

My (first) wife and I numbered many gay men as dear friends in our lives as performers for fifteen years in musical theater in New York, an end point for many gays.  We lived, worked and partied with them.  Our bond was our talent and love of the stage.  No open-minded person could come away from these associations and declare that their homosexuality was a “lifestyle.”  No, clearly it was their essence.   

Each knew from an early age that they were somehow different or “strange,” “unlike the rest,” or whatever label others had attached to them.   (To my pals and me on the streets of South Philly and New York in the ’50’s, such boys simply were “sissies.”) As kids, their demeanor was different from others, as were their interests, toys and friends.  Further, they all felt the same unique personality characteristics whether they had come from a big city, a mid-Western farm town or the deep south.   Such startling similarities don’t suggest lifestyle, they suggest genetics.  Granted, my “evidence” is anecdotal, but close to a hundred gays were part of my circle in those fifteen years, which is a fairly substantial sample.

The elephant in the room in any discussion of homosexuality is, of course, sex.  Gay sex is clearly abhorrent to straights (unless they indulge in it).  But if genetics is what has determined those desires, if God-given, randomly selected genes have made gays who they are, then their sexual activity is part of the package God created.  Not that we need to like it, condone it, or take a peek, but it goes with the territory and as Christians we are compelled to accept it.  Otherwise it would be like accepting someone to whom God gave great strength, but expressing disapproval when he wants to lift something.

To be sure, some in our increasingly coarsened culture hedonistically pursue sex with men and/or women for pleasure.  Others are truly confused or in denial about their own identities.  There have even been articles about college students experimenting with bi-sexuality, as if it were a purchasable item selected off the moral shelf.  And some women consciously choose the love and affection of another woman because they think, rightly or wrongly, that only someone of the same gender can understand their emotional needs.  

These are not the people I’m talking about.  For them, their lifestyle seems to be a deliberate choice.  I’m talking about (mostly) men and women who are helpless to change what they were born with.As a thought experiment, I’d like to see concerned Christians temporarily jettison the notion of morality to reflect upon what it would mean to them if homosexuality was genetic.  What would it mean to their faith if God had deliberately chosen to create a category of human beings known as homosexuals?  What becomes of their moral argument against homosexuality if it is genetic, i.e., part of God’s plan.

This is how I believe the discussion on homosexuality should be framed.  In any event, until the biology of gays is researched and understood fully, this issue will never be resolved to anyone’s satisfaction.  And gay marriage protests will continue.

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I completely agree, although I would also argue that even if homosexuality were a choice, it would still be nobody else's business to criticize or condemn. From my understanding of the Bible, Jesus said to "love thy neighbor". This commandment was not followed by a list of exceptions. A Christian's job is to love and care for others. Period. Sexual orientation is, or should be, a non-issue.
Bonilogue: Gotta disagree on a few points. First off you're saying that Christians should accept those who were "born" gay but not those who may have chosen such a lifestlye. So what about bi-sexuals? What about those so-called College experimentation escapades?
Second, you say " Who in his right mind would invite this rebuke for their entire lives? Our natural survival instincts, indeed, common sense, would eliminate homosexuality as a deliberate lifestyle choice. "
The answer to that question is a whole sh** load of people choose lifestyle choices that are detremental to their survival. For example; cigarette smokers, users of various drugs, both legal and illegal, people who drive too fast, people who still have unprotected sex with people they don't know well. The litany continues. In fact "survival instinct", at least for the species, would seemingly preclude a genetic link to homosexuality.
It's not that I don't agree with you re: acceptance of pretty much everyone's lifestyle choices but I think attacking it through the Church is the wrong tack.
Homosexuality is no more a sin than adultery, sloth, greed, fornication and many others, yet you never hear preachers sermonizing against them. Why? Money. The pews are full of sinners yet few of them are homosexuals. The preachers a fearful of losing parishioners, and therby contributions, if they preach against the sins of the flock.
Gotta disagree completely with the notion that the Church should change its stand.

First of all…let me say that I think the Church is completely full of shit…and the best guess that I can make about the Bible is that it is a bunch of horse shit when talking about any gods…or about what any gods think to be moral or immoral.

But the Church is convinced that the Bible accurately describes the position of the god. It has to remain true to that position.

Here is what the Bible says about this issue:

“If a man lies with a male as with a woman, both of them shall be put to death for their abominable deed; they have forfeited their lives.” Leviticus 20-13

You cannot get much clearer than that!

And here is what Jesus had to say about Leviticus…which, of course, is “The Law.”

"Do not think that I have come to abolish the law and the prophets. I have come, not to abolish them, but to fulfill them. Of this much I assure you; UNTIL HEAVEN AND EARTH PASS AWAY, not the smallest letter of the law, not the smallest part of a letter shall be done away with until it all comes true." Matthew 5:17ff

You cannot get much clearer than that.

The law holds…either that, or Jesus was bullshitting.

The Church has to stick with the Bible…no matter that any reasonable person realizes that the book is filled with garbage.
Very well said. I have a friend who is trying to "recover" from his homosexuality and it is painful beyond words to see his struggle. It would be like me trying to recover from heterosexuality. He can not hear me as his Christian beliefs have convinced him his persuasion is wrong and can be healed with prayer. Pain, pain, pain.

I don't like thinking about gay sex, but then again I don't like thinking about any sex except the sex I'm having. I don't like excessive PDA in any way, shape, or form. A little hinting at sex, gay or straight, in the movies or in a book adds zest to a story, but too much is just icky.
I could not disagree more. In order for the Christians to do this they would have to disregard the Bible. In the Bible God calls homsexuality an "abomination". He does NOT mince words. If you decide as a Christian to ignore what the Bible says about homosexuality then why be a Christian? Why listen to or follow anything that the Bible teaches. Far too many Christians think they have a choice to follow SOME of the Bible but not all of it. I really don't think God sees it that way. In fact, Jesus re-inforced the marriage model extablished in Genesis when He said:
Mat 19:4 And He answered and said to them, "Have you not read that He who made [them] at the beginning 'made them male and female,'
Mat 19:5 and said, 'For this reason a man shall leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh'?
Mat 19:6 So then, they are no longer two but one flesh. Therefore what God has joined together, let not man separate."
Jesus clearly states that "marriage" is between one man and one woman. There is no gray area here.
However, what I think is the main problem with this issue is that Christians have a tendency to elevate the homosexual issue above all other sins. However, God does not see it that way. As you can see here, He speaks strongly against homosexuality but as you can also read he also despises all of these sins with the same condemnation:
Rom 1:25 Instead of believing what they knew was the truth about God, they deliberately chose to believe lies. So they worshiped the things God made but not the Creator himself, who is to be praised forever. Amen.
Rom 1:26 That is why God abandoned them to their shameful desires. Even the women turned against the natural way to have sex and instead indulged in sex with each other.
Rom 1:27 And the men, instead of having normal sexual relationships with women, burned with lust for each other. Men did shameful things with other men and, as a result, suffered within themselves the penalty they so richly deserved.
Rom 1:28 When they refused to acknowledge God, he abandoned them to their evil minds and let them do things that should never be done.
Rom 1:29 Their lives became full of every kind of wickedness, sin, greed, hate, envy, murder, fighting, deception, malicious behavior, and gossip.
Rom 1:30 They are backstabbers, haters of God, insolent, proud, and boastful. They are forever inventing new ways of sinning and are disobedient to their parents.
Rom 1:31 They refuse to understand, break their promises, and are heartless and unforgiving.
Rom 1:32 They are fully aware of God's death penalty for those who do these things, yet they go right ahead and do them anyway. And, worse yet, they encourage others to do them, too.

As for the genetics of the matter here is an interesting article tat addresses this question:
http://www.narth.com/docs/istheregene.html

In summary, we as Christians are to follow the teachings of The Bible or discard it completely. It's all or nothing. God speaks against homosexuality in very harsh language but He doesn't single out homsexuals more than he does other sinners. A sinner is a sinner in His eyes which is why we need Jesus for salvation.
Lastly, there is no creadible evidence that supports the theory that being gay is due to some "genetic pre-disposition." In fact, so far the opposite is true.
However, because we are all sinners we should not single out homsexuals any more than we should someone who commits adultery. As Jesus said"He among you who is without sin throw the first stone."