john guzlowski

john guzlowski
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Danville, Virginia, USA
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June 22
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I was born in a refugee camp in Germany after World War II, and came with my Polish Catholic parents Jan and Tekla and my sister Donna to the United States as Displaced Persons in 1951. My parents had been slave laborers in Nazi Germany. Growing up in the immigrant and DP neighborhoods around Humboldt Park in Chicago, I met Jewish hardware store clerks with Auschwitz tattoos on their wrists, Polish cavalry officers who still mourned for their dead horses, and women who walked from Siberia to Iran to escape the Russians. I write about these people.

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DECEMBER 23, 2009 10:19AM

The Nazis, Christmas, and Forgiveness: A Repost

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A while ago, I gave a talk to a high school class about my parents and their experiences under the Nazis.  I talked about my father’s four years in Buchenwald and my mother’s two and half years in various slave labor camps in Germany.

During the Q & A after my talk, a young man asked me a question. I’m sure it was in part sparked by the Christmas season, the talk that you hear at this time of year about “Peace on Earth and Good Will to all Men.” He asked me whether or not I forgave the Germans for what they did to my parents. 

The question stopped me. I haven’t thought about it before.

 Of course, I had thought about whether or not my parents forgave the Germans. My father never met a guard he would forgive. They were brutal men who beat him and killed his friends for no reason. One sub-zero winter night, these guards ran roll calls over and over. Hundreds of prisoners in pajama thin clothes stood outside in the cold and snow. By morning, about a hundred prisoners were dead.

My dad always felt anger toward all the Germans.

My mother seldom talked about her experiences during the war. If you asked her what they were like, most of the time she would just say, "If they give you bread, you eat it. If they beat you, you run away."

A lot of people say, forget it; it was all a long time ago. For my parents, it was never a long time ago.

My parents carried the pain and nightmares with them every day.

When my father was dying in a hospice, there were times when he was sure that the doctors and the nurses were the guards who beat him when he was a prisoner in the concentration camp. There were also times when he couldn’t recognize me. He looked at me and was frightened, as if I were one of the guards.

I don’t think he ever forgave the guards for what they did to him.

I remember asking my mom once toward the end of her life if she forgave the Germans. She thought for a while. I’m sure she was thinking about her mother and her sister and her sister’s baby. They were killed by Germans who came to her farm house in eastern Poland. My mother saw this and escaped for a while by jumping through a broken window and making her way to a forest.  Eventually, the Germans caught her and took to the slave camps in Germany.

What my mother finally said in response to my question about whether she forgave the Germans surprised me. I thought she was going to say what I had heard my father say over and over--that all the Germans were evil. But that’s not what she said. She told me a story about when she first was brought to Germany. She was taken to a camp where they worked the women just like they were men, making the women work sixteen, eighteen, twenty hour shifts, six days a week. She said that she knew she couldn’t survive that for long.  She figured she’d be dead in a couple of day, maybe a week.

She was saved by a German, a guard in a concentration camp.

For some reason, this German guard took pity on her. Who knows what his motives were? My mother often said that Germans thought she looked like a German, a niemka in Polish. Maybe this was what got her saved. Maybe not. Whatever it was that motivated this guard, he succeeded in getting her transferred to a different work area where the work was not killing work. She survived the war.

After telling me this story, she said, “Some Germans were good. Some bad. I forgive the good ones.”

All of this went through my head when the student asked me if I forgave the Germans, and here’s what I said to him, “I don’t forgive the stupid ones, the ones who think that what happened to my parents didn’t happen or it wasn’t as bad as people say.”

And I told this student why I was saying this. I told him how I had gone to an academic conference in Paderborn, Germany, in 1989, and I met a woman, a professor, there. We were chatting, and she asked me if I had ever been in Germany before. I said, “Yes, I have. I was born in Germany in fact, in Vinnenberg.”

She was surprised and asked me about this. I told her my parents had been kidnapped by the Germans and brought to work in the slave labor and concentration camps in Germany, and that I was born in a refugee camp after the war.

She said, “Your parents were lucky they were brought to Germany during the war. It was better for them here than in Poland. Here they got good food, shelter. Here they got to escape the chaos of the war.”

I looked at her and couldn’t believe that she could say such a thing. I thought about my father and mother and what they lost and suffered during the war, and I thought about how their lives after the war never shook the scars of the war. I thought about my father’s nightmares and his dead eye, the one blinded by a guard; and I thought about my mother’s coldness, her inability to feel much beyond grief and anger and hatred. I thought about how she directed that coldness and anger and hatred toward my father, my sister, and me.

I didn’t know what to say to this German professor, and didn’t say anything.

She was not the kind of person I could forgive. She was one of the stupid ones.

This is what I told the student who asked if I forgave the Germans. Some I forgave, the smart ones who recognized what had happened during the war. Some I didn't forgive, the ones who didn't recognize what had happened.

But later as I kept thinking about what the student had asked and what I had answered, I started thinking more and more about my mother. With all she had experienced in the war and with all of her coldness, anger, and hate, she was still able to find some human warmth in her heart. She was still able to forgive some Germans.

This makes me think that I should be able to do more than condemn the stupid ones and forgive the smart ones, that I should be able to feel more of the good will toward all of them than I do.

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(If you want to read other stories about my parents, please go to Lightning and Ashes, my blog about them at http://lightning-and-ashes.blogspot.com/

I've also written their story in my book Lightning and Ashes.

The photo of the Buchenwald prisoners above was taken by Margaret Bourke-White, one of the first photographers to come to this concentration camp after the liberation.)

 

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John,
I do remember this from last year and was attracted by the topic once again. It is an essential question, an evolving question and well articulated here. Forgiveness is perhaps the most complicated emotion to find and embrace.
my father and his mother came to America from Poland around 1929 to join my grandfather who had come to NYC a few years before to find his fortune. my grandmothers father was a rabbi and she had (I think) ten brothers and sisters who remained in Poland. I know little about my grandfather's family, but like my grandmothers, I believe it was a large family. Their entire families back home were murdered during the war by the Nazis AND the Poles. none remained. not one. except my grandparents and my grandmother's sister who were safe in NYC during the war.

my father hated Germans. and he hated Poles. he did not consider himself Polish. he considered himself a Jew, a Jewish aetheist - he was of the Jewish nomadic race. that's how he saw it. he said everyone wanted to murder Jews, all his life. he was not a part of any country. none of them. he forgave no one.

John, I do not hate Poles or the Germans. but in his honor and for the love of my family that is gone from this earth so cruely, and God only knows what cruelty, what horrors they endured before their final breath, I do not forgive them. I cannot. I do not wish them ill but whoever it was that did this to them, I do not, will not ever forgive.
Dear Very Frilly Christmas Monkey,

There is so much cruelty, and it comes from all directions.

Your family is killed by Nazis AND Poles. My grandmother and my aunt were raped and killed by Germans AND Ukrainians. My aunt's baby was kicked to death. I had two aunts (Polish Catholic girls) who were married to two Jewish boys. The four of them died in Auschwitz. Germans did it. Probably with the help of Italians, Austrians, Romanians, Poles, Ukrainians, and Hungarians.

I wish I could find some way of making the world a place where Jews and Poles and Ukrainians and Germans and Iraqis and Irans and Bosnians and Italians and every body else didn't hate everybody else.

But I can't -- nobody can. Jesus couldn't, Moses couldn't, Buddha couldn't, Mohammed couldn't. All religions have failed. All philosophies failed. All nations have failed.

As my father used to say as he shook his head, "What a world, what a world."
Even though we were never in the camps, all of us, in our generation, are survivors, all marked and marred by the events that transpired there. My grandparents were Russian, not German or Polish, but the story remains the same.

As the reality of the Holocaust fades into and blends in with the rest of the world's history, there's a tendency to forget exactly how unique and evil the Holocaust was, especially where the Jews were concerned. Others suffered, and I don't wish to diminish their suffering, but their survival as peoples, cultures, communities was never in doubt; but, for the most, part, Hitler succeeded: In many communities where Jews once thrived, none now survive.

The images of the camps have haunted us all our lives, but this is a good thing. Complacency kills.
Dear Sagemerlin,

As you say, "Complacencykills."

For years, I taught college literature courses, and when we read some novel about war, there were always students who said, "Oh I'm not interested in war. It's not something I'm into." And I always said to these students that even though they weren't interested in war, they or their sons or daughters would be touched by war and it would make them a way they wouldn't want to be or could ever imagine.
I remember reading this last Christmas too, and it struck me then no more than it strikes me now, as compelling a message of forgiveness and the brutal reality of man as I've ever heard. This renders the word 'mankind' as much an oxymoron as anything I might ever try to fathom. It is impossible for me to fully comprehend how you must feel, because it is impossible and God help us all I hope I shall never know such horror myself; but I am inspired by your words; and your peaceful spirit. I cried reading it last year; and I cried again this year; tears for humanity becoming. Thank you, John.
Forgiveness is necessary to find peace of mind. What the Nazis did was atrocious. But the tradition lives on, in the brutality practiced by Asians, Americans, and blacks throughout the world.
To forgive does not mean to forget.
We should never forget, and that is why it is impossible to "forgive" someone who, for example, denies what happened, or misrepresents it.
Thank you John for this repost - very much appreciated.