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Married to Joan. (of course, not the Joan thats often mentioned on here) The father of Faith Dawn Magee, who died as a baby in November 1977. In addition, father of 3 girls and 2 boys. Grandfather of 2 girls. this seems like a busy start! Currently, author, http://www.authorhouse.com/BookStore/ItemDetail~bookid~52437.aspx http://www.authorhouse.co.uk/BookStore/ItemDetail~bookid~52437.aspx Pastor, chaplain to 3 schools, chaplain to a factory, Community councillor. Previously, Son of a member of the Royal Air Force, then I also joined the RAF as an electronic Technician. consequently lived nomadic life in Singapore, Aden (Yemen), Kenya, Cyprus, Malta, Germany, as well as a variety of places through out the UK.

APRIL 4, 2009 5:25AM

"WE ARE NOT AMUSED", said Queen Victoria

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"We are not amused", probably one of the most well known quotes attributed to Queen Victoria. It is a quote that is meant to indicate her view of how seriously she treated the experiences of life, and what she expected of her subjects at that time. However, would it not be great to be able to get a glimpse into what was happening behind the public scenes. It would be an understatement to say that very few of us will know from personal experience what was happening in Victorian times, we can only rely upon what we read from other sources.

 

My grand parents lived during the reign of Queen Victoria and there were some interesting tales that they were able to leave behind. (There is a connection to that opening quote, please hang on while I digress a wee bit)

 

Grandad, Thomas Hill, was an orphan. He and his two brothers were raised in an orphanage in the South of England. He had two sisters who were fostered out, and they never met again. (It was easier to find a family to take on a pretty young  female.) Life in such an institution was clearly very rough and severe, and grandad would rarely speak of his experiences except that it was a very unhappy time. Charles Dickens probably gave us something of an indicator of that side of Victorian life.

 

Fast forward some years to when grandad was an adult, and met the love of his life, Eliza  Emily  Gunn, known as Emily Gunn. Emily came from a wealthy family who had good connections amongst the nobility of the day, including royalty. Shock and horror came, however, when she spoke of her intentions to marry, especially when her parents saw who her intended was. Thomas did not know anything of his ancestry, he was an orphan with little ability to discover where his family came from, but the Gunns knew about their own family history.

 

The maiden name of Mrs Gunn was ........... HILL!!!! This was something she was proud of, her family were related to Sir Roland Hill, who  initiated the "Penny black".  And their daughter wanted to marry a young man of the same name, Hill. They looked at him, and convinced themselves that he looked like relatives they knew. They must be related!  Imagine the shame that would come to the family name if their daughter was to marry within the family! This is not much better than incest, it seemed to them. This wedding could not happen, but it did, and the family disowned the young lovers immediately. The wedding photos showed the story well, not one family member was present, and the two young people were left to fend for themselves. Those were, it seems, hard tough times. There were little opportunities to imagine any humour within a Victorian world.

 

Now look back a few years to the childhood of Emily. Walking through the  Queens estate with her father Mr Gunn. Along the way they meet the Queen herself who greeted them warmly. "Good morning Mr. Gunn", she said, and then turning to the young child said "Good morning little miss Pistol!" Could this be the very same Queen who is remembered for her serious looking image. Is it possible that she really did have a sense of humour in private?

 

WE ARE NOT AMUSED!!!!

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The tails of the royalty in England. Princess Di, a sad case in point. She was a splendid lady, Prince Charles and the queen are not of fondness, as well as the mistress he married.
Thank you for your comment.

I am just remembering that I have another bit of insight into the life of Victoria. I will work onit and blog it in a few days.
Amusing story, jon. Glad your grandparents were strong enough to marry in spite of her family's objections. I have always been simultaneously fascinated and horrified by the Victorian period. Maybe I was exposed to too much Dickens as a child. I'm curious to hear about your other Queen Victoria insight.
Thank you for your comments once again.

For her it must have been quite a culture shock being isolated from the kind of life style she had become accustomed to as she grew up. In some ways I guess it must be like the mills and Boon stories that many ladies are drawn to. (You have them in your part of the world?)

I will try and get the other Victorian blog written up soon. I think you will appreciate it, and draws out an aspect of her ynger life that few would be aware of.
A very interesting little snapshot. I would like to read more like this.
Kathy, will bring some more on this within the next 24 hours. Thanks for your comment.
What a a fascinating story! And I do believe the queen must have had a sense of humor. Apparently the current one is supposed to be wickedly funny in private. I look forward to reading more.
Can you imagine how terrible life must be for folks who have no sense of humour at ny time.

Thanks for your comments
A fascinating glimpse into the past. I'd be interested to learn how your grandfather managed to even interact with Emily, let alone have the opportunity to fall in love. I would think that there was little opportunity for classes to mix much. I bet there was much sneaking about.
I am sure you are right. Is it not interesting to note that every generation of young people believe that they were the ones that invented love and romance. No one ever thought of it before.

Like it is with many young lovers, there will be a lot of secrets that would never be revealed to the outside world. I may compose a blog at some pont that revolves around their story, but not the next blog. The next blog will major on another Victorian story, and then maybe we can consider your "Mills andBoon" interest. (Incidentally, I refer to Mills andBoon but are they commonly bought by American ladies?)
Th next royal story ...... see http://open.salon.com/blog/jonmagee/2009/04/05/queen_is_dead_young_royal_steps_out
For those looking for the continuation of the romantic thread, look at the following:

http://open.salon.com/blog/jonmagee/2009/04/10/easter_love_and_romance_how_do_these_all_connect
I am glad that their love prevailed in spite of everything. How could a woman who clearly loved her prince -- and produced scads of children -- not have a sense of humour? I am sure that it was bawdy in private, just as Queen Elizabeth's mother's was. I remember a journalist friend of mine who covered one of the late Queen Mother's trips to the CN Tower in Toronto telling me that her "handlers" had a hell of a time getting her to stop drinking her beloved "g & t's" and telling dirty jokes to continue with her royal duties. Eventually they got her down the tower, but it wasn't easy.
...... and what an age the Queen mother lived to as well. From memory, I think it was some where in the region of 102 years old. Thanks for your comments Emma.