It's not the dancing. I love the dancing. And I love the idea of this show, bringing dancers together from every culture and class, from hip hop to ballroom to ballet, forcing them to discover their weaknesses and stretch their skills.
It's not the judging. It's hard for newcomers to understand how a long time fan can endure Mary's screeching, Nigel's weirdly macho prissyness, or Mia's ongoing "I love you/I hate you other blond women" psycho drama.
But these judges have been on the other side. If they haven't come from dance competition backgrounds, like Nigel and Mary, they are choreographers, like Mia, who are also having their work judged on this show. This adds a level of professionalism and empathy I never see on the other shows.
Since the franchise has expanded to New Zealand, Turkey, Israel, Canada, Germany, Greece, Poland, Malaysia, Norway, The Netherlands, South Africa and Australia, they've been travelling the world guest judging. Sure they have some personality ticks, but there's not a lot of self-indulgence. They don't waste our time creating faux rivalries. This show is about dance. Everyone here is about dance.
Everyone that is, except the technical crew. I HATE the camera work on this show.
What camera work? you ask.
Exactly.
Good camera work is to dance what good sound is to singing. How do I know? Because I'm from Canada, a magical land filled with camera crews who have cut their teeth on non-stop hockey and figure skating. It took me a while to figure out why SYTYCD Canada had such a different vibe---and then I started looking at clips of the best routines of the season from both shows.
And come, let me show you.....
The Case Of The Amputated Ballerina
Let's take a look at one of the best performances last year on SYTYCD U.S. A breathtaking pas de deux choreographed by ballet and broadway star Desmond Richardson and danced to David Archuleta's cover of Imagine.
If you haven't seen this yet, maybe enjoy it first with a naive eye. But if you're a regular fan, a year's gone by. Time to put on your critic's glasses. Why? You wouldn't watch American Idol with fuzzy sound. So why should we have to settle for B-list camera work? Especially since ratings seem to be decreasing every year.
Watch for the following things:
Nothing too bad happens in the first 30 seconds. The dancers are staying within a pretty small area on the stage, so getting this right isn't exactly rocket science. The lighting is, let's be nice and call it minimalist. The dancers seem a little blanched, but let's be fair and chalk this up to faded youtube video.
Then the dancers mess up. This could have been minimized by a quick change of camera angle. But the static camera is unmoving and unforgiving as Will not only fails to properly twirl Katee, but then seems to tumble halfway out of the frame. That part's not his fault, but the camera mistake adds to the awkward blunder.
Notice how often these dancers are dancing at the periphery of the frame, how often feet, arms, even a head, accidently slip outside the edge of the frame. If you watch closely, at one point you'll see the camera jerk to the side to catch up with a dancer. Watch how the camera loses Katee, twice. In a PAS DE DEUX. (Hello Hollywood camera crew. Deux means two...two dancers.)
One thing you'll rarely see on SYTYCD is any attempt at interesting shadow work. But look, some shadow! Problem is these are shadows of the audience, swaying their hands to the song. Is this a sophisticated piece of contemporary dance, or a David Archuleta concert video?
There are two climactic lifts. Watch how both times the camera cuts Katee off at the knee. It's one thing to cut a dancer off at the knee in a static pose where the drama is in the upper body. But, mother of god, you don't cut off the female dancer's legs in a lift! Not unless it's a story about a boy and his amputee girlfriend. Pay special attention to the last lift. It's gruesome.
And then the final insult. These are both two of the most talented dancers on the show. They've just completed the most challenging piece of choreography this season. They've done a beautiful job except for the one little f-up. You want to see their faces. Are they happy, are they disappointed? Hard to tell because the camera decides this would be a good time to retreat into the ceiling. It would be so interesting, apparently, to have a birdseye view of two dancers walking along the stage.
(Unless you're a nostalgic fan, fast forward past Kerrington's solo performance to about minute 2:30.)
Now let's take a look at their Canadian counterparts dancing, ironically, to David Cook's Permanent. Canada has been waiting for this moment all season. The two frontrunners have never danced together: Nico, a gorgeous half-deaf Montreal street punk, and Allie a cute as a button Halifax ballerina.
The first thing you're going to notice is the extra dancers in the studio during rehearsal. For a while I thought the Canadian network was too cheap to pay for private studio time. Then I realized these were stand-ins so that the technical crew can run through the choreography to get it right and add some drama.
This explains the attention to lighting. If you can take your eyes of these dancers keep an eye out for the beautiful shadow work, how the shadows gradually multiply and amplify the dancers as the story builds.
Also, notice how often and fluidly the camera changes point of view. Every angle is planned out. You could never imagine this camera crew losing a foot, let alone a dancer.
And, finally, notice how the shot lingers on the dancers' faces, giving us plenty of time to absorb their feelings about this performance.
(A note to hardcore fans: Stick around for the judging and watch Jean Marc Genereux out do himself in the category of over the top judge crying. Watch how he takes an entire two minutes to link this to dance to all the suffering in the world. If I ever had any doubts about Nico deserving the SYTYCD Canada crown, he won my heart by not cracking up once.)
Angry Dance With Prop
So what? you say. The important thing is good dance, not camerawork. True enough. But the more I started re-watching the U.S. routines, the more I started to notice how the best American choreographers kind of limit the dancers to avoid making them vulnerable to lame camera work glitches. The queen of this is Mia Michaels. All of her best performances involve a prop that anchors the attention to the center of the stage. The challenge is to provide a choreography that doesn't sacrifice the momentum that dancers usually build by using the rest of the stage.
This contemporary routine with Katee and Twitch is a classic example of Mia condensing her choreography into one tiny invulnerable bundle of energy. (Fast forward past Comfort's solo until about minute 4.00:)
It was a great piece. But imagine a Mia Michael's piece if she were also able to use the entire stage and work with a technical crew engaged with the drama, and dancers who've obviously been learning over a season how to perform for the camera.
I wouldn't say that the dancing in this piece choreographed by Blake McGrath is much better. But you can see how a bit of interesting camera work adds a whole new level of energy to this scenario, as does the momentum the dancers build from fearlessly using the stage. Here the prop is a prop, not a crutch.
And it's not like the U.S. technical crew isn't up to the challenge of choreography that uses the entire stage. When Canadian choreographer (and judge) Jean Marc Genereux gives American competitiors Will & Courtney this Samba, the camera crew works it out well enough (except for the spots where they seem to be shining cop lights into our faces.) Fast forward to about minute 4, where you can see Genereux redeem himself from the waterworks of SYTYCD Canada.
But this ain't no Canadian camera crew:
(Some of you may have seen this samba already if you stopped by my SYTYCD Canada re-cap. You can fast forward past the intro to about minute 1. But don't miss the opening shots. And don't miss this classic Mary Murphy piece of judging.)
I hope this chance to re-visit the best performances of last season has been more fun than painful. I know it's hard to accept that the show you so love may be needlessly crappy.
If this keeps up on the fifth season, maybe we should consider a petitition. But there's always the possibility that someone over at SYTYCD U.S. noticed the difference and hired a Canadian camera crew this year.
In which case maybe this is more of a preview of your new and improved show!


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My Granddaughter has her practice dress recital this afternoon.
I'll miss pink dance ballerina. However, I see the real on stage show!
I promise to show these ballerina's. Later. She's gonna get a DVD too!
What a beauty to behold. The camera can't communicate real magic tho.
I'll also see the live dance performance. I am anticipating a great show!
Wonderful.
She'll love it.
Thank you.
But mostly I want to start a dialogue about why dance isn't more of an artform here, and I do think it's because it's expensive to do well. So, sadly, it's going to lose out to shows that you can do on the cheap like AGT.
Can't wait for your recap of this week's show. By the way, I loved your observation about "Nigel's weirdly macho prissyness" - perfectly said.
Two questions:
1. As I was watching the clip how come we have the announcer with the Brit accent and you get that American accent?
2. And why oh why does the dancing seem like a High School, ok, College dance performance?
Quite excited for tonight - I have wine, bon-bons and a very large television to help my enjoyment.
One of the things I love about SYTYCD is that I always feel so much more graceful and fit and stretchy after watching it, even though I just sit/lie on the couch drinking wine and eating bon bons.
I'm sure there's a word for it, other than "delusional".
Knightwriter, I have a friend who actually did a M.A. thesis on American Idol...Obviously we take this shit way too seriously up here. As for Nigel. You'd think with that name he'd have learned not to cast too many stones.
Stellaa...That's a Toronto accent. And the U.S. host for the first season was unwatchable. Then they realized it was mostly twelve year old girls watching, so they brought in this British children's t.v. show star. She's great.
re level of choreograpphy. You got to keep in mind that these dancers having been dancing and learning non-stop for 9 weeks. They are learning two, sometimes four (as they get into the last weeks) different choreographys each week. They're suffering from injuries, exhaustion, and the stress of changing partners every week. So cut them a little slack. The skill level on this show is so much more demanding than AI. And so much less rewarding, financially and professionally. But I also think the camerawork limits the choreography. I find the Canadian choreography a little more challenging (which you can see over at my season recap post).
Thanks AIM. I'm still going to be enjoying it no matter what. This just gives me something to grumble about, since I mostly like everything about the show.
Viewers have been complaining about it for at least two years that I am aware of, I hope and have my fingers crossed that Nigel has heard about it and fixes the problem.
Camera work on dance is difficult. Plus, I would imagine the temptation to make the performances look more MTVish for the audience raised on quick frame changes plays a part in the director's decision. SYTYCD has gained a broader audience (myself included) of people who never really appreciated dance for the many styles and expressions. I think there has been more of an attempt to play to this new audience for fear they will not just appreciate dance for dance sake. It is TV and TV success is about numbers.
I like the show because it promotes something that seems to be lost in this country, good honest talent and the beauty of fluid motion and performance. The judging for the most part is honest and sure they get a little over the top with trying to generate "excitement" and Mia who is an excellent choreographer does make some of the more cryptic and creeper statements on the show. But, I can over look it all when you see the dance.
America Got Talent is sort of a mix of the Gong Show meets Jerry Springer. But, they are playing to another audience who would be just as happy watching a smack down cage match. And Dancing With the Stars is a joke and an insult to dance. It actually gains ratings when the performers fail or faint or break something. So look for more train wrecks in the future for that show.
I hope more shows like SYTYCD raise the level of appreciation for performing arts, because God knows TV has done its best to lower the collective IQ of America. I hope success does not kill the show.
And Mike. As you'll see from the Canadian clips, this can be done well without making it MTV. That said, there is a something kind of charming about the dance competition texture of the show. But SYTYCD can't compete with the gong show shame level. So it's got to compete with what it has, a higher skill level.
I don't think they've made a conscious choice to keep it quirky. This feels more to me like FOX doing it on the cheap. They have so much talent on this show. They should do it a little more justice.
peece!
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You da girl!
This is one of the best, most professional, threads I've ever read.
Haven't viewed all the video yet. Will do so as soon as I finish repairing the fish pond which decided to spring a leak right after all the greenery around the pond finally sprang to life.
This IS one hell of a post!
Cheers
In fact, bad camera work inspired my very first Open Salon post during the opening ceremonies of the 2008 Olympics. I just wish Busby Berkeley was still around to talk some sense into these people...
I'll never watch that show with the same level of ignorance again, (and you can't put a price on being the smartest TV watcher in the room!)
More importantly, I am now going to start watching the Canadian version of SYTYCD. Whoopeee!!! And it's all because of you, Juliet.
Well done, and as mentioned before, I can't imagine the time it took to get all of those clips coordinated.
Excellent!
Great critique!
Well stated post. But don't get your hopes up about the Canadian camera crew unless they're union. ;-D
Thumbed.
I'm going to address the comments in reverse order because I want to deal with Bill's very valid point about U.S. camera crews being unionized. I don't actually think you need a Canadian camera crew (and as Emma pointed out, I'm sure a lot of the camera crew probably is Canadian) what you need is for Fox to decide it's going to raise its game on this show and do what needs to be done: like hire stand ins so that the crew can properly prepare itself for these routines. I have hope because the two shows do have a very symbiotic relationship. Mia Michaels was in Montreal last week for the auditions for season 2 (which starts immediately after the American one ends). Many of American judges and choreographers also work on SYTYCD (CA) and they will definitely notice the difference. I would be very surprised if THEY are willing to endure the lower standards this season. So we may all be in for a surprise.
I'm so happy about luring new fans to this show (it gets better after Vegas, I swear.) So thanks Emma, Buffy, Sirenita, Hellbells and Mary Stuart and hopefully, Gracielou
Yes, Shaggylocks, BIG SALON. If I wish one thing to come out of more attention, it's that this post somehow makes it to somebody on last seasons crew (Canadian) because they did such a phenomenal job and I hope they know that some people actually noticed this.
Frank. Good luck with the fishpond and I really look forward to having a hardcore fan to follow this in the next couple of months.
Stephen Dick, if this raises consciousness about this problem then I would die happy.
Steve Blevins. Oh stop! *blush*. And thanks for your lovely comments on my other posts.
Sorry for people I've neglected, but I have pizza burning. But thanks for stopping by.
I can appreciate the differentiation in camera work - it's like when I have to watch sports on the local access channel instead of ESPN or the networks and it's excruciating.
I do wonder how much of it has to do with the proficiency of the crew vs the number of cameras? In sports, that makes a big difference. Does it here? Just wondering!
and oh well, I may even have to start watching. You know, for the camera work critique :-)
Wow, thanks for the detailed analysis! This is actually one of my pet peeves as well having been a HUGE dance fan and having almost gotten a PhD in film/TV back in the day (1980.)
I agree that the Canadian team does a better job of framing but one thing that drives me CRAZY is that there are very few choreographers that choreograph for the camera and very few directors who shoot for dance. The exceptions? Gene Kelly and Bob Fosse.
So, for example, the shot tends to elongate movement from the vanishing point at the back of the frame toward the front of the stage making it magically big and exciting. The Canadian team caught one of these back to front movements perfectly as a dancer slid from the rear of the stage into the camera.
Best example of this choreographing for camera/directing for dance is Gene Kelly and Cyd Charisse from Singin in the Rain (choreographed AND directed by Gene Kelly) in the famous shot where Kelly slides from the back of the stage on his knees to the front of the stage and runs into Charisse's mile long leg.
I realize that one static shot looking at the stage is boring but there's got to be a better way than a bunch of mindless cutting AND (my biggest beef) the consistently used handheld-camera-circling-the dancers! EEESH. It's not choreagraphed in a circle, folks! It's distracting and disorienting.
We won't see the likes of Kelly or Fosse again and the tradition of Vege-matic editing we can blame on MTV, may they...hey, it's OK. A bunch of dancers have actually been able to get paid because of them.
SYTYCD directors (especially U.S.!) actually WATCH the freaking choreography and PLAN your shots!!!!!
Eesh.
Attached see Kelly and Charisse. Mwah.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7YWBOfsXsDA