Just Walt's Mental Meanderings

Walter Blevins

Walter Blevins
Location
Vista, California, USA
Birthday
August 22
Bio
I'm a 60 year old guy who lives in Vista California with my wife. I spent the 30 years before moving to Cali in Iowa, Wisconsin and North Dakota. And I have 2 grown children, a son and a daughter who live in Nebraska and Iowa and a 22 year old step-daughter lives with us here in Vista. I'm a proud grandpa with 2 grandaughters living in Nebraska. I like to write about a whole variety of things from my kids to cooking to politics to the car industry to my status as a "Cheap Bastid" and "Old Fart" and just random thoughts. And I really love writing about cooking really good, homecooked comfort food cheap. That's why they call me the Cheap Bastid. By the way--all the stuff I write is my stuff and you can't use it without my official OkeyDokey

JULY 19, 2011 2:17PM

Penises, Vibrators and Cars

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The other night, while sitting out on the balcony with my wife talking about our day, we got in a bit of a discussion about my job as a car salesman.

 

Seems like she wasn’t too fond of my description that a 50’ish female customer I was working with was driving a $37,000 “vibrator”.  (Actually, she has a 7-year old Nissan 350Z convertible).

 

“Wait a minute,” I said.  “You’re getting irked at the notion that this woman bought a car 4 years ago and has admitted that it was her ‘bright and shiny toy’ that she ‘just had to have’ to indulge her late middle age desire for a ‘go-fast convertible’.”

 

“But let me ask you something…you don’t have any problems describing a guy that age who has a Corvette as owning a $40,000 penis do you?”

 

“Well, no,” my bride replied.

 

“It’s the same thing,” was my response.

 

What surprised the hell out of me was that she agreed.  Wow, that never happens.

 

Yeah, it was the same thing.  Men have been doing that for years with ‘Vettes and Mustang Cobras and Mitsubishi Evo’s and Dodge Challengers and big, bad-ass, jacked-up trucks.  Women do it too.  It has to do with our image of our masculinity or femininity or the idea that we’re 40 plus and want to feel young. 

 

350z 

 

And yeah, somehow or another these vehicles are tied into our sexuality—our attractiveness, our desirability.  I’ve never had the cash to indulge that fantasy, nor the inclination. 

 

So what’s this all about?  Well, I had this customer the other day.  50’ish, female and wanting to buy a new, sporty car.  No problem.  Until she told me later in the day over the phone that she had a trade-in.  OK, still no problem.  An ‘07 350Z convertible.  Still no problem.  $8000 “upside-down”.  Potential problem.  Only $2000 available for a down payment.  Yep, potential problem.

 

To make the long story short, when I was finally able to get her to come in so we could appraise her car.  In actuality, she was nearly $10,000 upside down.  Oops.

 

Now, a car dealer can do some legerdemain sometimes with how to assemble a deal structure so that it works for a customer with substantial negative equity.  It’s a lot harder today than it was 3 or 4 years ago, thank goodness.  Things tightened up with car loans at the same time they did with home mortgages—and for the same reasons.

 

Turns out, she still owed over $19,000 on a vehicle she bought 4 years ago that’s worth less than $10K.  And there’s still 3 years to go on the loan.  Oops!  Great big Oops!

 

You know what bugs my butt though?  This person bought a middle-aged ego-booster.  She’s tired of it.  It’s not big enough.  But lady, it’s not my fault!  It’s not my fault that you screwed yourself by agreeing to a 7 year loan and that you paid new-car price for a car which was 3 years old when you bought it.  It ain’t my fault!  Yeah, when I had to give her bad news, she got mad.  At me! 

 

old car lot 

 

She got mad at me when I told her that she had a 7 year loan (she thought it was only a 6 year loan—but hmmmm, I can do that math…she’s made 49 payments and has 35 to go, yep that’s 7 years).  She didn’t believe me.  “Well ma’am,” I said, “that’s what it shows on both Experian and TransUnion so what I’d suggest is that you check your original contract to make sure.” 

 

But that’s OK, you need to be miffed at someone and there’s only so much that you can beat yourself up and you have to do that privately rather than in my office.  And, I’m not the first guy that you’ve tried to do this with.  I imagine that the other dealers you’ve gone to have told you the same thing.  I mean, we can do it.  We can get you out of the car, but it’s going to take more like $6000 down.  But your payment will be over $100 lower.  And she got mad at that.  But that’s OK.  That’s the nature of the business.

 

Hey, if you’ve got a testosterone toy or an estrogen machine, that’s cool.  Make sure that you set yourself up to succeed when you’re tired of driving it.  And, although you may have gotten screwed without getting kissed, you were a willing participant.  Plus, I’m not the guy who did it to you.  I’m the guy who’s trying to help you get out of it!

 

Just remember—it’s a car!  It’s not proof that you’re a hottie or a stud.  It’s transportation.  There’s no status that’s conveyed to you by the car you drive. 

 

And here's one of my all time favorite car sales commercials:

 

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I haven't posted in a while but I had this happen on Sunday. It irked me and I thought I'd write about it.
Food for thought here.

You attribute someone's "upside-down"financial position to what is more or less vanity (maybe filtered through a sexual lens), but vanity nonetheless.

Maybe vanity is behind a lot of decisions wrt to buying houses, etc. So many of our neighbors have made these decisions and now have to live with the consequences.

Seems to me a 7-year loan on a car is about as close to a combination of indentured servitude and and usury (broader biblical definition) as you can get and still be legal.

Disclosure - I drive a 1998 Civic with some body paint discoloration and, frankly, Scarlett, I say "I don't give a fock".

Besides, everyone knows an expensive clarinet makes you a much bigger babe magnet. And, it is more phallic than any car. Ladies, have a cold drink available before you look at this baby;

http://usa.yamaha.com/products/musical-instruments/winds/clarinets/bb-clarinets/ycl-450/?mode=model
Actually Steve, the customer attributed her purchase to vanity. And she paid new car sticker price for a 3 year old vehicle which had already had 3 owners. The dealer was complicit but didn't compel her to do anything. I could write multiple posts about the evils of 84 month financing--which is rarely, if ever, used anymore (thank goodness). We deal a lot with young Marines who still find themselves getting screwed at "indie" lots in a way that we can't help them. They consistently do that even when they've been told repeatedly throughout their "chain of command" not to do it. More's the pity because we could "set them up to succeed" in their purchase and financing.
And I concur...I drive an 8 year old Mazda6 with 135,000 miles on it. Paid for and going strong. My wife's car is a 97 Escort.
I was thinking aboutbuying me a brand new Harley, but, after reading this testimonial of it just being middle-aged ego, I guess I'll just keep my clunker. Man, I had my checkbook out and everything!
I was thinking about buying me a brand new Harley, but, after reading this testimonial of it just being middle-aged ego, I guess I'll just keep my clunker. Man, I had my checkbook out and everything!
I was thinking about buying me a brand new Harley, but, after reading this testimonial of it just being middle-aged ego, I guess I'll just keep my clunker. Man, I had my checkbook out and everything!
I was thinking about buying me a brand new Harley, but, after reading this testimonial of it just being middle-aged ego, I guess I'll just keep my clunker. Man, I had my checkbook out and everything!
I was thinking about buying me a brand new Harley, but, after reading this testimonial of it just being middle-aged ego, I guess I'll just keep my clunker. Man, I had my checkbook out and everything!
I was thinking about buying me a brand new Harley, but, after reading this testimonial of it just being middle-aged ego, I guess I'll just keep my clunker. Man, I had my checkbook out and everything!
I guess I really wanted that Harley, huh? (yes, I'm an idiot)
Gladly I don't think I will ever fall into that trap because thankfully I realized early on that no matter how sporty and new a car is, it won't make me look any better. As my old daddy use to say: "You can't make a silk purse from a sow's ear." That's me.

Oh and I loved that commerical and watched a couple of others with that badger in it.
ScanMan--go for the Harley! 6 times!

Torman--The Car Badger commercials are some of the funniest ever--I used to use them all the time when I was doing sales training for Ford and later for Kia. We can always recognize just a tiny bit of ourselves in them and, more importantly, how customers perceive car salesmen. The key is to never be that guy.
So I wonder what my paid for red 2000 Nissan crew cab says about me...I feel damn right sporty in her! I hope it says I don't really care...
Sometimes folks just don't want to hear the truth.
I paid 2900.00, cash, for my 1993 Toyota Corolla. That was like maybe five years ago. It had 120,000 miles on it. Now it has 148,000 mile on it (I don't drive much) but like my other Toyota, it's rusting to hell. But now I'm in the South so at least it's not so bad. I'll drive it till it dies. I'm even thinking about getting a scooter and getting rid of the car altogether. With a scooter, no license or insurance. Never been much of a car person.

Glad this was about cars--and not Foodie Tuesday! LOL!!!!!
A friend of mine told me of the first time he was old enough to be thoroughly embarrassed by an adult conversation, probably aged 13 or so. One of his mom's friends had dropped by, and they were discussing a neighbor who had just bought a Jaguar E-type (this was Scotland in the late 1960s). "Oh, it's just lovely," said his mom's friend, "like a penis on wheels!"
Now I'm in Southern California, and I find all the biggest dicks are behind the steering wheel.
This was funny and will send it to my son who owns a used car dealership hahaha
HUGGGGGGGGGGG
Lunchlady--your paid for 11 year old truck says that you're smart! Just salt a little away each month for repairs and your next down payment!

Gary--paid for is best--I have an 03 Mazda6 with 135K on it. Paid for.

GeeBee--there's a lot of those "penises on wheels" out there. And a lot of dicks are driving them.

Linda--if your son likes this, send him my other half dozen or so posts about selling cars. Or have him get in touch with me. Thanks for reading and commenting. Sure miss your posts!
Fascinating tidbit Walter. Very enjoyable read. I wasn't sure what to expect with the gaudy title. People whose job requires them to deal with the public always get a lot of sympathy from me.
My favorite capsule description of what a car is (from a former girlfriend's father): an appliance on wheels.
I just bought a brand-new car. (18km on it and got $8k off the price) I drove my last car for 10 years and it was used when I bought it. Buying the new car was nice for me as it symbolizes freedom from controlling others. It is my car in my name. I'll drive Willoughby until he gives up the ghost.

so that being said, what I don't get about this woman is that she bought a used car at a new car price. That's just uninformed purchasing! And Vanity! I agree.

Thanks for the story. Made me shake my head and feel better about my informed decision.

I miss foodie tuesday. You have great dishes.
What was the car she wants to buy again? And you said that Nissan 350Z convertible right? Why does she need a new car. That Nissan is a really good car with good 4wd parts. I wish I own that car.
Larry--I don't even remember what kind of new car she wanted. The real issue is that she wanted us to pay for her mistake. Surprisingly, or maybe not so surprisingly, a lot of car buyers seem to have that expectation. She got her mid-life crisis "toy" and when she's done with it, well she can just "pay the piper". She made a huge mistake with the amount she paid for the "Z" and the term of the loan--which if memory serves was 84 months. She got royally screwed--but she screwed herself too. I run into this fairly frequently. It costs sales but by the same token you shouldn't be buying a car unless you're going to drive it long enough to pay for it--even if you decide you don't like it.