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Just Cathy
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OCTOBER 13, 2009 3:09PM

My Native American Sweat Lodge Experience

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Native American Sweat Lodge

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Traditional style Sweat Lodge dating back to early 1600's

 

In recent news, a story of a tragic accident in a well known resort in Sadona, Arizona, where adult retreats have been held for many years, the deaths of a healthy man and woman in their 50's, was reported.  This freak accident in a "sweat house," occurred where numerous men and women of various ages, seek to rejuvenate both body and mind through this process of intense moist heat over a period of several hours.   With physical and spiritual benefits, this practice  began in the early 1600's by native American Indians who originated this tradition, believed to cleanse the body of infection, illness and toxins as well as ridding the mind and spirit of negative energy and evil spirits.  Tragically, this sweat house collapsed, causing two deaths and unjuries to 19 others.

Some years ago, I had heard of this practice and doubted I could handle the intense heat.  Many who had done this before, swore by it's healing qualities and health benefits.  As I do not like saunas or steam showers and am miserable in heat over 85 degrees, I was skeptical about doing this. I was not motivated until I was invited to a friend's property in Lake Tahoe, where they have practiced this form of deep cleansing for many years.  These are friends I love and trust and I was challenged by my fears and the need to overcome them.  I agreed to attend their special "Sweat Lodge" event in the summer of 2006.

Their property is magical, with a fresh water creek running through their back yard, flanked by lush willow bushes and every kind of wild flower known to this area.  It is surrounded by the natural beauty that is the Sierra's, with boulders and pines engulfing this special place.  I was enchanted the moment I arrived for the day, the likes of which I have never experienced before and the results which were completely unexpected.

There were 7 of us participating.  Close friends and the 26 year old son of our hostess were in attendance and it was also on her birthday with a full moon to appear that evening.  A very special day. 

 Upon our arrival we were greated with organic sun tea and an array of fresh fruit.  A meal before our sweat consisted of a  hearty home made vegetable soup with hot crusty bread fresh out of the oven.  We sat in a circle on her deck while our hostess described the traditional sweat lodge, what to expect and how to manage through the 4 cycles of the sweat.  The four cyles are symbolic of the seasons and our connection to the earth. 

Our host was busy preparing the lodge for our sweat, heating river rock from the yard and lining up several containers of water from the creek for the rock pit.  Coolers were filled with refreshments that he would bring into the sweat lodge throughout our day to ensure our our hydration needs were met.

Before we began our cleansing sweat, we set out to gather numerous willow branches to line the top and sides of the structure, both a tradition and part of the healing elements of the willow.  More willow was placed inside the 3x3 hole in the center of the ground where the hot rocks were heating and upon which more hot rocks would be placed throughout the day along with water to build the steam.

Each cycle of the sweat would consist of no more than 60 minutes and no less than 45 minutes, with 10 minute breaks between each segment.  During the break, we would go take a dip in the icy cold creek, where even in the summer is still quite cold from the previous winter's snow run off.  Some participants wore very little clothing.  I chose to wear a bikini under a pair of light weight long shorts and a summer tank top.  After my first dip in the creek, removing my outer clothing, I got smart and left my clothing on during subsequent dips in the creek, got soaked and had a cool layer of wet clothing to insulate my body from the intense heat upon returning to the tent tee pee.

This sweat lodge was a more traditional native tee pee style, with layers of heavy canvas covering the structure, with a covered opening where we would enter and exit between the four cycles.  The ground beneath us was so welcome, cool and earthy, where there was room to lay on your side, curled up if desired.  Most of the time, we were sitting up, listening to native American Indian folklore told by our hostess, followed by singing of familiar songs and each of us telling  stories and experiences of childhood or whatever  the mood brought to the group.  Our hostess, a true earth mother and spiritual guide, filled our time with enchanting stories, poetry and tales of earthly wisdom. 

The passing of organic juices and fresh water was constant throughout the sweat to keep us hydrated and comfortable.  We were also able to take the laddle of water to pour over our heads and bodies when needed. I was never thirsty or faint and marveled at my ability to maintain my equilibrium inside this somewhat claustraphobic space.  Never for a moment did I feel impaired or unable to go on to the next session of four.  I was surprisingly refreshed, energized and happy to be conscious throughout!

By the 4th session, our young participant and son of our hostess, decided he needed to opt out.  He couldn't take the heat and departed, somewhat bummed out that he had not stayed till the end.  The rest of us remained, sharing stories and experiences, hydrating, resting, keeping the moist heat doused by more and more water, sweating our little bodies out like never before.

Upon completeng our sweat, you can imagine that we had become somewhat dirty, muddy and gross!  However, despite this, we were exhilarated, energetic and cleansed.  We showered, put on fresh clothing and returned to the deck overlooking the mountains, proud pines and the clearest blue sky our eyes would see for some time.  Everything seemed so fresh, so clear, so alive.  Our skin was glowing, clean, rejuvenated.  Our minds and spirits, renewed.  Our purpose, inner strength and outlooks, life changing.  Pride was beaming in our faces, bodies tingling, smiles all around.

Our amazing host had prepared a scrumptous feast inbetween sessions while his wife and guests were busy sweating away in the lodge.  We enjoyed a great barbeque of steaks, chicken, corn on the cob, grilled in the cob, so yummy , baked beans and summer salad.  A feast  for hungry appetites.

After eating and sharing our thoughts during the sweat, we walked 45 minutes to a small lake in the woods, built a bon fire just as darkness blanketed us and the moon light glowed overhead.  The chatter, energy and comraderie was contagious and warming.  Our shared experience became a bond of friendship, trust and a common memory we will take with us through life.  It was something I could never have imagined if I hadn't done this myself.  It is unparalled, unbelievable and a positive experience I will hold dear to my heart.  And, yes, I would do it again!

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My heart goes out to the families of those who died in Sedona and to the victims and families of those who were injured.  Their experience was meant to be as positive and healthy as mine.  This was an unforseen tragedy by all those involved and one which will haunt so many lives for a long time to come.  It is unimaginably heart breaking.

 

 

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First!? WTF does that mean anyway??????????
I used to truly look forward to time in the "dry" sauna when I went to the gym more than anything. It kept my soreness down and made me sweat enough to cleanse my pores. I think it was around 130 degrees??? If memory serves me and I could do 15-20 minutes. Any more than that and I've read that you can have dangerous spikes in BP and that you are in danger of dehydration (if not replenishing fluids as I would do). I don't know why people believe such things as this. There are no panaceas for what ails you in life. It takes hard work, dedication and concentration. It also takes precious time. So although I feel horrible for these people who died, they really should have known better.

Rated as I had no idea of these places.
What a great story and bond of friendship.
What a great story. And just as well written. I've never tried this but I"m willing to now after reading of the great experience you had.
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Thanks for sharing your experience. I find it all fascinating, but not sure I'd do it myself, particularly after these recent deaths. An East India cleansing treatment at Ten Thousand Waves in Santa Fe is likely as close as I'll ever come.
I remember you telling me this story Cathy. It sounds intriguing, especially since I love to sweat...Kathy brought up Ten Thousand Waves...that sounds right up my alley! Great post.
I don't think it collapsed. It sounds like the problems were numerous, including 36 hours of fasting, inadequate ventilation and too many people in a small space — plus the $9,000+ a person fee.
Great post, interesting subject, sad recent news of others deaths.
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Your experience sounds great, Cathy! It surely would be something to reflect on with so many good memories.

I just read earlier that the Sadona resort did not obtain a permit to build the structure and the site was questionable. Pretty scary stuff and so sad about the two people.
Thanks, Greg, but hey! Don't know it if you haven't tried it! I sure understand your doubts as I had my own going into this extreme event. I also have faith in much of what our native American Indian culture has taught us and this has been done for positive good for a doggone long time. The AZ incident was a whole different animal.

Trilogy - Thanks much and yes it was!

Scanner - Thanks very much. If you do have a chance to experience a sweat lodge, be sure of the credentials of those hosting such an event. For the most part, these have been done for decades very successfully and with wonderful results.

Kathy Riordan - Thanks and do tell what an East Indian cleansing treatment is?! Would love to know!

Mary - Thanks, sis. Yeah, I told you and Nick about this and recommended it highly. Important thing is where and with whom you experience such an event.

High Lonesome - Our news said there was a collapse which caused several people to be severely burned, but media being what it is...
and you are right about the fasting in question and the cost, both monetarily and to the lost lives which resulted. So sad.
I've also participated in sweats and hosted a couple for friends on my property in the woods behind my house. I also always had a good experience and just like a natural sauna, my skin felt great and I felt invigorated. In Canada we went swimming afterward in cold water and saw the Northern Lights . It was great. Thank you for reviving my memories. I felt shock and horror that this happened too. (I have never paid for a sweat at all, just brought food to share).
Don't ask me why but I started tearing up at one point reading this Cathy. Maybe because of the grief I unknowingly suffer from being so unattached to the earth and all it's creatures and the universe in general... or "great spirit". I would participate in one of these in a second without hesitation and although it's something you don't ever hear about around here I bet if I looked around I could find some people that do the sweat lodges.
The camaraderie at the sunset fire by the lake afterwards; magical I'm sure.
This would be a great piece for the cover of OS IMHO but Kerry and I rarely agree.
First, thank you for your wonderful account of your sweat lodge experience.

I had not heard about the accident. (I often turn off the news for days for "mental health" breaks) I just now looked it up online. Something was obviously terribly, terribly wrong. I've been in many sweats, mostly at the Objibway reservation in Northern WI. I have never been required to pay money. Participants share food for the feast afterwards and often brought gifts for the sweat lodge leader and fire keeper. The gifts were never required, were rarely currency and were given in appreciation for all they did to give the participants this incredible experience. The sweat lodge keeper spoke of his and the firekeeper's duty to protect us and they always checked to make sure everyone was doing okay. Anyone having difficulties was inviteded and encouraged to leave the sweat and assured of continued prayers on their behalf. These sweats are beautiful. This is tragic.
It's amazing the feeling you have after a sweat, even your muscles feel replenished...thanks for a great story Cathy!
Debbs 4 - Thanks for commenting.

Just Pamela - Yes, I heard that too and a permit would have likely prevented this accident, with proper building codes in place. Especially given it is open to the public. There are numerous private structures for the purpose of sweat cleansing and you rarely if ever hear of anything so horrific. It takes serious know how and contstant monitoring of the participant's hydration needs, etc.

Rita Shibr - Thanks for your great feedback about your experiences with this practice. Love hearing the positive outcomes for this type of cleansing regimine. My friends do these sweat lodges once every season.

Triggers - I love your comment so much and know exactly why you teared up over this experience. I can so see you doing this and loving it. Try checking with Gold Lake Mountain Resort as they have authentic tee pees on property but not sure they do the sweats. They might steer you to a reputable sweat lodge in your neck of the woods. And, surely, there are some you can find on line and check them out. Would love to hear all about your expereince, should you choose to do this. Earthiness is pretty cool and it's yours for the taking, in so many ways, my friend.
I had an opportunity to participate in a sweat lodge some years ago. It was amazing. I can't explain why - it just was. Perhaps not coincidentally, I've never been afraid of spiders since . . .
I love this... Never been to one, but sounds awesome!
Nothing like a good healthy sweat to make you feel like a brand new person!
:-)
Cathy, the East Indian cleansing treatment is a ritual spa treatment they used to offer at Ten Thousand Waves, a Japanese spa just outside of Santa Fe, where they'd do over a period of 2-3 hours a series of wraps and application of heat, with various herbs and oils and treatments. I had it once many years ago, and felt about as close to what you describe from the sweat lodge experience as I am likely to ever feel. I don't think they offer it anymore, or they don't call it that, but if you ever get to Santa Fe, be sure to check it out. Go for the Nightingale facial.
This is a great story, full of truths, Cathy.

That mess in Sedona was not a freak accident. It was an accident waiting to happen. I just don't know how they managed to use improper materials, put up a shabby structure like that, and not get shut down.

I wouldn't be surprised to hear that someone told them that it wasn't a very good idea.

My condolences to the families, too.
What a terrific story! I can't even imagine how wonderful you must have felt afterwards. And how gratifying to know that you made it through something that the YOUNGER man could not! Kudos to you!! How great. I had never heard of such a thing.

Peace to all the families who lost a loved one.
Mimetalker - Thanks so much and you're welcome! Love reading about your expereinces and impression about these remarkable feeling sweats and all that goes into it. The participants all provide for each other and contribute greatly. It's a collective effort and well worth it!

Gary Justice - Cool! Happy to hear you have experienced this as well! And so true, the muscles benefit so much as well as the skin.

Owl_Says_Who - Great that you did this once! Spiders? They don't typically come out where there is heat so don't think that would be a concern. For some reason, spiders don't bother me. Maybe it's cuz I squash them in a hot second!

Spotted_Mind - Thanks and try it some time if you get the chance!

Kathy Riordan - Thanks so much for the info! Sounds wonderful and have heard great things about the spas in Sante Fe! Love anything that supports the health of body and mind!

Zumalicious - Thanks very much. It is so horrible that this place wasn't checked out or questioned by the participants to a greater degree. And...there should have been 3-4 people outside the structure at all times for this many people inside, to ensure a quick exit if needed and frequent checks on the individual's well being. Beyond irresponsible and horrific!
Sweat lodge ceremonies are part of the animist tradition, which is the oldest living spiritual tradition known to man. It may have been first recorded by the arbitors of the Western tradition three or four hundred years ago, but animism is the tradition upon which all others are based, which predate the Western tradition by millenia. A sweat lodge ceremony is a "purification" ritual that predates any
other.

We know this principally from the scholarship of Joseph Campbell and Mircea Eliade who wrote the book SHAMANISM that for the first time recognized the religion of "native" peoples as the "first" religion, and in its way led to the revival we are now seeing and you participated in Cathy.

The animists believed all of creation is the work and expression of an unseen force or diety. Rocks are as alive as trees, the sun, and humans. They belive there is no difference between the material and the immaterial. After thousands of years of evolution we are returning to the consciousness of the first humans who looked upon the world around them and asked what and why.

Meanwhile, the "organized" faiths "distinguish" themselves based on the names they give to their diety, the numbers and sex of their gods, the lands their people once inhabited, and whether somehow their belief is in some way superior to the belief of the next. It is hard not to call them all fools when you know the truth.
This is a wonderful and well written story. I agree that there must be some magic somewhere that benefits the body and soul. May be I 'll give it a shot; I, like you you, can't stand the heat...I mean the sauna.

Rated.
Really interesting...glad to know more of the details about why the sweat lodge is supposed to be a renewing, invigorating experience, and it is a tragedy what happened to those people who died.
This sounds like fun, actually. Since I have a low level of pain all the time, I crave heat. I've always loved saunas, steam baths less so. As long as I feel I can breath. I love intense physical experiences. I've been turned off to the sweat lodge thing because I'm leery of imperfectly understood spiritual borrowings from other cultures, which can seem self-indulgent and somewhat silly, but you make this sound like a an intimate and emotionally satisfying thing to do with friends.
Beautiful post, Cathy! I lived in Finland many years ago and waited eagerly for the Saturday sauna. Mid-morning we would light a wood fire in the stove, heat the water in the old farm sauna and do our laundry. In the evening we would fire up the stove to a blistering temperature, soak the birch boughs in the wooden bucket, sit in the sauna and drink a mead drink, and bathe. It was our only bath, and was almost entirely a physical cleansing...not a spiritual one. However, it was certainly a social experience. The whole family would sauna together, with lots of conversation. The entire ritual became one of the most pleasant and calming experiences of my life. I've never duplicated it.
Excellent post - your descriptions are intoxicating.
I guess the most important thing, pointed out in comments, is "buying" the experience. I have participated in a few sweats, and, like others say, it was an experience without currency. Everyone brought what they could and nothing else was needed.
I hate people who profit off of a spiritual path they are not even privy to. Especially when they go and kill people in the process.
I hate to sweat, HATE but it is intriguing. Just sounds so being part of the earth. Plus what an accomplishment.
It sounds like the key to safe sweat lodge experiences are doing it with people who know what they're doing, and hydrate, hydrate, hydrate!

I think I'll stick to showers, though!
There is nothing like this. To be a part of something that takes us away from who we are and delivers us to another place is amazing. Well written. Thank you.
I lived with a Shaman many years ago and participated in many sweat lodge ceremonies. I will say that what you experienced sounds like a day at the spa by comparison. We never had breaks for food or drink and it was a very intense experience that everyone participated in beforehand with the rocks and tying prayer ribbons. Food was served only AFTER the ceremony was completed and the water that was passed around was to be cherished - a lesson in "do I really need this small sip?". Most people passed when it came to them. Interesting how different groups approach or "adapt" this sacred ceremony to the audience. I'm glad you had the experience and that you enjoyed it. It is one of the most spiritual things I have ever gone through. I could use one right about now..... xoxo
Glad that you enjoyed it. I could never do it for a whole host of crazies in my head and body, but I admire those who are able to not only do what you did but to enjoy it so much. Maybe I should see a shrink.....................................???????? No. Wait. I am a shrink.

Ah well,

Nice story, Cathy.

Monte
Ben Sen - Thank you so much for your comment rich with information and history about this experience. Your astute comments are always appreciated.

Thoth - My thanks to you, kind sir. It was indeed a magical experience and one I will cherish always.

nurseliz - Thanks for checking this out and for commenting here.

Sirenita Lake - Thanks very much for your wonderful comment. I do believe, given the right circumstances, you would thoroughy enjoy this practice, both physically and spiritually. To know the couple who provided this amazing event, would confirm their core beliefs, knowledge and experience with our shared native American Indian culture and practices. They, my friends, are truly unique in their wisdom, as genuine as anyone who could provide this experience and truly a rare couple. I am fortunate to have been invited into their circle.

Ralph Tingey - "The entire ritual became one of the most pleasant and calming experiences of my life." Boy, did you sum that up for me! Believe it or not, that is as much a statement of spiritual bliss as it is of physical comfort. Difficult to separate the two! Thanks so much for your awesome comment!

Aim - Thank you so much for finding elements of my post "intoxicating." That is the perfect word to describe what I experienced that day, minus alcohol or drugs and just pure nature and comraderie among a caring, loving group of ordinary folks.

Lunchlady 2 - I am with you! I, too, hate to sweat and actually do not break a sweat easily. I needed to reach beyond my limits, shed a long time fear of heat and get jiggy with the earth. It was awesome!

Shiral - You said it! The hosts of this kind of practice need to be on their game and understand safety and protection of their guests. Makes all the difference!

mypsyche - So right! This really did transport me to another place, physically and emotionally, yet I never left the ground where I became more firmly rooted.

Cartouche - Love knowing others like you have also had similiar experiences with sweats and that they can be so positive. I'd have to say that my day was no walk in the park, though our hosts did everything to ensure our comfort and safety and that it was truly 'nature's spa' at it's very finest!

Monte - You big wuss! Just kidding! It's not for everyone and I, too, doubted I could endure the extreme heat and confinement of the sweat structure. Very daunting and rewarding to have come through it feeling as good as I did. Thanks for chiming in on this!
Great story Cathy! My husband has participated in several sweats, usually with no more that 25-30 people. You need to have a "safe" number so the tragedy like what recently happened will not occur.

I have yet to do a sweat, someday I want to. We have several women in our area that want to do one, so maybe when the time is right (like you I do not like heat), it will happen.

Glad you experienced it!!
It sounds like a great experience. I have a friend who swears by the healing power of a sweat lodge and, in fact, met her husband at one. It certainly brought good things to her! Thanks for sharing this, Cathy.
fascinating story, sounds invigorating, I like the dry heat of a sauna better, but I know the enjoyment of a good sweat
Wow - sounds like a very spiritual experience. Very interesting post - thanks for sharing!