JustJuli

JustJuli
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Wife, mother, overweight runner. I ran a marathon this one time. Sometimes I fancy myself a writer. Welcome to my virtual reality.

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APRIL 13, 2010 11:36AM

Thoughts on Eating and Addiction

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When I fall apart I do it in all areas of my life at once. Collapsing isn’t really something you can compartmentalize.Exhaustion tends to affect everything. I have quit running, writing/posting, and going to Weight Watchers meetings. In many ways I feel like an addict re-lapsing.

 

It feels like addiction when I slide into bags of Easter candy and bottles of wine. I am not consuming them out of the joy of eating as Francis Lam describes so well. This consumption is about obliteration. I want to dissolve. It is the opposite of a gastronomic experience. An experience like that is about being alive in all your senses: taking the time to smell, feel the textures of the foods, look at the colors, really taste and absorb all the flavors.I have experienced food in this way and it is pure joy.

 

Addictive eating is 180 degrees in the other direction. It is about self-hatred and anesthetizing your feelings. It is, in some strange way, barely about the food at all. It is a gulping unaware consumption that never truly fills you. It is knowing that what you are doing is unhealthy and unhelpful, but feeling powerless to stop, being unable to find the better way. It is hiding in your dark kitchen with a box of mass-produced chocolate cookies that aren’t even that good and eating every single one even though you’re not hungry and you know they aren’t worth it. For that first soft chocolatey bite you feel a tiny bit better so you keep repeating the first bite over and over again. Even though you quickly start sliding into feeling worse rather than better.

 

Suddenly now you’re pissed. Every voice that has ever mocked you and your pathetic weakness is ringing in your head now. Your mother who takes food out of your hands and tells you you’re not really hungry. The dance teacher who calls you into her office to say, “I’m concerned for your health.” And your own voice disgusted and hissing, “What the hell is wrong with you? Why can’t you get it together? Normal people don’t act this way. Normal people know how to stop.” And this, of course, doesn’t help. Sometimes it spurs more eating. The food sits there mute and comforting and blameless. 

 

No one sees these struggles in the dark, but they see the results you wear on your body every day. They see the results of the weight loss work too and when people compliment weight loss I feel just as strange as when I feel the disapproving silence that surrounds any gain. Do they really know what goes on in the dark hours?

 

Still, I am lucky. I would never compare myself to a heroin addict or even a nicotine addict. The physical danger and emotional hell of those addictions far exceeds what I do and I know that. I am glad and grateful I haven’t managed to hook myself on drugs or drink. I am lucky that I don’t seem to have that kind of addictive personality.

 

It is interesting, though, how like a twelve-step meeting Weight Watchers can be sometimes. People on the message boards talk about “working the program” in much the same way I’ve heard AA people talk about their program. I’ve heard, “it works if you work it,” in both groups. In both situations you come to meetings after trying everything else after “hitting bottom.” In both places you will hear stories of misery before the program and hope after joining. In both places you will talk about one-day-at-a-time-but-for-the-rest-of-your-life. I’m not judging either group, mind you. I’m not an alcoholic, I don’t know what that struggle is, but I imagine it’s at least as lonely as struggling with food issues and joining with other people who are similarly struggling has to be powerful. And sometimes it’s powerfully isolating when you don’t feel connected to those people. That’s what happened with me, I think.

 

Can food really be addictive? I know it’s not the same as other addictions. It is more subtle and because of this, harder to understand. The people who believe weight and food issues are just about willpower and weakness do not understand. The people who believe we just need to get over what society tells us about “bad food” and “bad fat people” don’t understand either. I don’t believe in moralizing food. A candy bar is not “bad” and does not make me a bad person if I eat it but, these foods are different. They affect me differently than “real” food. Food that is highly processed and full of fat, salt and sugar affect my body and mind in completely different ways than whole foods. I have existed both ways and eating real food is better. My moods are more even and I have more energy. Eating fruits and vegetables and lean protein makes for better fuel and they taste wonderful in a different way than a fast food cheeseburger. It takes time to get to like that taste better, but it can happen, I’ve done it. The thing that sucks is that the addictive food always has that power to pull me back in when I’m stressed or depressed. I’ve used it to make myself feel better for a long time. Those neural pathways are built. I feel them. I feel them drawing me to the old comforts during hard times.

 

I will probably re-join Weight Watchers. I eat better when I’m on the program, quite simply because it forces consciousness of what I’m putting in my body. When I keep track of what I eat, then I eat more vegetables and fruits and whole grains and drink more water.  Sometimes I want to chuck it all, though, all the platitudes and pithy quotes. All the tough love and all-knowingness of the long-standing members. I could certainly do with not paying for this service. (The whole for-profit thing is one big difference between WW and AA or OA, for that matter) Mostly, though, I want to be someone who doesn’t think so much about what she eats, but I know, even if I never join another diet program I will never be a person who just eats. Food is not that simple for me. It never will be.

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Wow Juli. You've got a lot here.
Thanks for your candor.
Powerful thoughts, Juli. The 'anger paragraph' really hits. The weird thing about food vs. heroin or alcohol or pornography is that you HAVE to continue to 'use' it, and so you can't just say "no more" and abandon the habit... best wishes on rediscovering your peace with it all.
Oh Im so glad to read your post. Ive been posting about this addiction too. Glad to connect. Your writing is powerful!
I sometimes think that when we're small, just babies, that a dry diaper and a stomach full of milk are two wonderful experiences. And that feeling of being full is a fall-back, something to rely on. That, and it makes you fall asleep.
This is good. i think food is an addiction. i often find myself eating when i'm not hungry, not as much as i used to, but the allure of candy, cheesecake, french fries, etc, will always be powerful for me. of course, i feel better physically when i eat healthy stuff, and also "virtuous". but, sometimes it just feels too damned difficult. i personally bounce between extremes, periods of binging and of serious restriction. it feels like a sickness to me.
Good luck to you, Juli, You have written some powerful words here, which I think will help other readers who can identify with your struggles. You know, there is actually some recent research showing that fat is addicting, and as with alcohol and other substances to which people get hooked, some people are just more vulnerable. And yes, the underlying issues are the same. Sending lots of positive thoughts and support your way.
oh, jeez Juli, I have been Right. There. With. You. in every single sentence and every single bout of self hatred and obliteration. Weight Watchers does not help me, it's a temporary solution and the emphasis is too much on the food as if our only issue is learning to eat 'sensibly". You know how to eat sensibly. I bet you eat sensibly most of the time, just like me. That doesn't help when I'm home alone, awake in the middle of the night, overcome with anxiety that has to be smothered.
Hang in there. Walking helps me a lot in the struggle with sugar and alcohol.
it's the addiction to carbohydrates and the high they provide. my wife beat it after joining "grey sheet," a program that made her count each and every calorie. she had to go back again and again, and then when she finally gave up the "condition" in her life that was causing her to overeat, and she started to live more of the life she always wanted to live, she didn't regain the weight. it took about ten years.
I believe my food addiction and opiate addiction are both equal in destruction and as foes.
oh, juli.... hugs
don't know what else I can offer... you deserve so much happiness, have so many talents...
Oh Juli, I have been there with you too. I want to scream every time some self-righteous thin person says, "Oh, you just [fill in the blank] and it will all be fine." (eat right, exercise every day, buy smaller pants, etc.)

AAAHHHH!!!

I don't understand this either. Sometimes I wish I was an alcoholic so I could just avoid the damn stuff. I can't. I can't banish all cookies from my house because I have a husband and two kids who eat them--I have to share my house with them. And if it wasn't cookies, I'd find something sweet and carb-laden to binge on--toast and butter and jam are just as bad as cookies if you eat enough of them.

I don't know what to say other than I understand and I'm traveling this road with you.
Oh Juli. I am sorry for your pain, and glad you shared it here. I have joined and dropped out of WW more times than I can count. I know what it is to eat away stress, pain, anger, sadness, all of the above. You are a brave soul to open yourself up in this way, and I wish you success in whatever path you find to get and stay healthy...and when you find out what that path is, please share it with us. Rated.
I was just thinking, " I wish JustJuli posted more often,' and there you are. I loved this. I want to read it again and will. I love the link to Francis Lam in the midst. Too much great stuff to go into.

Rated with breath bated!
Wonderfully said and heartfully said. the problem with "food" is that you can't just stop eating, like you can do with alcohol and drugs - which is why so many of us can relate. I also had an anorexic daughter some years ago and so the whole food/issue thing I know is not about the food at all. Good luck to you. I also can relate about WW. It's a good program - I've been on it a number of times - but!
When you wrote how mindless eating can become, I think that's true, but it's more the behavior of eating, the act of eating itself that has become "addictive" and habitual, don't you think? Maybe?
Juli..I very much enjoyed your post. I have some food addiction problems. Luckily, for me (health reasons) I keep a pretty good eye on my weight. But the drive that pushes me to eat butter or sugar is nuts and I feel so ashamed to not be able to control it all the time. I would love to do what you'd like to do..and that is: JUST EAT. Life is short and pleasures, including food, should be enjoyed. Big girls are much more sexy and curvy, as far as weight goes. (Too much weight will cause health issues.) Hope you find a happy place. Great post. TX!
I think it's easy to slip into these unhealthy eating patterns when you're stressed because sweets, fast foods and salty/fatty snacks (like chips) are not only pleasurable in their ways, but easy. When you're dealing with a lot of difficult challenges - when you're tired - you really want something to be easy. Cheap. Don't have to cook it. Available NOW. At least I know that's what's going on with me when I slip out of my healthy habits and start eating too much junk. There is also (again, for me) a sense of rebellion that can kick in when my life is feeling too hard. Scarfing a bag of chips can give some of the same satisfaction as refusing to clean my room or do my homework did, when I was a child. It's a sense of "No I WON'T be good! I will do what I WANT!"
It's hard because I really do feel better and enjoy things more when I'm eating healthfully. Thanks for this post. It's good to know I'm not alone in these conflicts and struggles. I hope it gets easier for you soon.
Beautifully written . . . best wishes to you on the journey. HB
O, Judi. You said it. Appreciate your words. I find myself buying and eating bag after bag of Cadbury Mini Eggs. I eat them to soothe myself. They are sold just at Christmas and Easter. I eat them at Christmas because it is getting dark, dark, dark and winter is really here and for a long time. I eat them at Easter because I am hopeful yet it is still dark and spring is not going to be making things lighter anytime soon here in the Pacific Northwest. It is best for me that they only sell them twice a year. I buy them out. Three bags at a time. My limit. Over and over. Word has it that non-holiday Cadbury Mini Eggs are now available year around in Canada. The border is only about 426 miles from here. I could make a run...
I know what you mean. Then, when they do say oh my have you lost weight, and you say yes, then you gain it back...it sucks!
I have found a program that retrains HOW you eat. It starts with eating every two to three hours. Then it slowly changes but I have seen a difference, besides the 30 lbs lost. I don't wake thinking of food. I know I will eat, my body knows I will eat. Somehow it works.
I still have miles to go to reach the end but at least I have finally found a program that shows the child in me there will be food. We will not go hungry. I love your honesty in this post.
I have never dealt with an addiction but I empathized with your eating every cookie in the bag even though you didn't like them and weren't hungry. I wish the best of luck in your struggle, and thank you for giving us a glimpse of your pain. It can't have been easy to write this..
Juli,
I think this is one of the best things I've ever read about addictive eating. Having struggled with eating issues nearly my entire adult life, and wondering if, at 47, I'll ever really be free of these issues, I hear every word you say here. When I dive into a bag of M&Ms or a box of cookies, I'm not even tasting what I'm eating; it's just this mad rush to force all that food into me. The shame I feel as I'm eating, after I've eaten, and when I'm going through my bulimic cycle, after I've thrown up, is all horrible, and yet, like a true addiction, it feels like I have little control over it. Until, at some point, I start to get small parts of control over it, that eventually put me back in the driver's seat and all me to steer out of the skid I'm in.
For me, the whole issue starts in the grocery store. If I can prevent myself from buying the crap in the first place, I won't go shopping for it at 10 pm at night. It's when I'm at the grocery store, especially if I've gone shopping while I'm hungry, that I load up the cart with crap.
It is about seeking numbness.
And once again, the thing that saves me is writing. Writing gives me an outlet for feelings, and allows me not to seek numbness.
Anyway, I'm rambling, but your blog post is very good.
By the way, have you read APPETITES by Caroline Knapp? That book spoke to me.
For me, snarfing down sugar definitely has a mind-altering effect. It is like a crude antidepressant, elevating the mood. A high which crashes the moment I stop eating the sugar. But while I'm up there I'm Little Mister Happy.
I don't have the self-discipline to follow any diet very well. I'm always making excuses and justifications that pretty much eliminate the entire purpose of the diet or plan. And I'm not all that motivated to lose weight or work out - I just decided I didn't like the way I felt and decided to make some changes. I did the WW Core Plan (or Momentum...whatever they call it now) - I was only "strict" with the plan for about 2 months, but I learned some good habits that I can stick with and I'm really feeling much better.

What's worked best for me is to educate myself on healthier eating and focus on making a BETTER choice. I'm not going to kid myself - I'll never order the salad - but I can choose to get sweet potatoes instead of fries, or avoiding pastas with cream sauce. We don't buy many snacks for the house (because that only leads to eating them), but I've found a few options that are healthier but still help with the cravings.

I don't respond well to guilt or "you should" when it comes to my diet, especially from another person, but I do like feeling better about myself. So while I still have my days where breakfast is two McDonald's apple pies, I now have far more where I'm eating my own fruit/greek yogurt/honey/granola concoction (and I'm enjoying it far more).
I should add - I did the online, self-paced plan because I couldn't bear the thought of going to WW meetings.

I also didn't give up my comfort foods - I just learned new ways to make them. I'm particularly fond of my low-fat, whole-wheat mac & cheese with low-fat turkey sausages.
I am right there with you. You can always count on a bag of chips or a cookie on the days when everything else is wrong with the world....
Being the food addict I am.....I dont think I suffer any less then a drug addict or alcoholic....my cravings when im into the sugar and white flour are powerful enough to have made me endanger my life and my childrens .....once I left the house when they were young in a snowstorm.....we almost went off the road ...all because my craving for sugar was so strong I would sacrifice anything to get it.The same neuropathways are stimulated in food addicts as in other addicts.We are the same.People dont get it,it is true.They think they are just cookies...If I eat them I can start down a road of hell,and such obsession and craving sometimes I think Ill never find my way back.I use OA for my program and ww for a food plan but with no flour or sugar.My heart goes out to you..It really really does.
Thank you all so much for reading and commenting. I was not going to post this. I sat on it for quite a bit and then just took the plunge. I'm glad I did. All your comments made it absolutely worth the effort.
Hey Juli,
I went to a wonderful workshop this weekend out by O'Hare by Geneen Roth. She wrote "When Food is Love" and many other books, as well as her most current one, which is, "Women Food and God." You should look into her. I wish I had thought to drop you a line about the workshop beforehand!
Juli-My heart breaks for you. This is a situation that IS very much like an addiction to drugs or alcohol. Although it may not possess the immediate dangers that drinking or drugs carry, you still have the fact that your life is barely manageable because of food.

I wish I had the answer for you, Juli. You are in a very precarious situation, and you need some counseling and a good group that is not condescending, but honest and somewhat demanding. I'm sorry for telling you what you need to do with your life, but I want to help you so badly that the only thing I can think of is to tell you what I would need to do. I'm pulling for you, Juli, you can do this with the right tools.
Just a note: I usually comment on a piece before I read the other comments. That is what I did here, so if I repeat anything already said, I apologize.
R
I went through a spell as a near anorexic and then bulimic ( for a year ) which reminded me of your description of the eating that is not sensual. I also thought I had a turbulent feeling that was a sense of grasping for power regained. At the time I was so unhappy and alone, and your description was good–– it took me back to that depth. I think in my case it was undiagnosed issues from child abuses and societal stupidities, among many other things.

R
You mention lonliness in your description of addiction and I wonder if you are on to something. We bottom out, we seek help, we form friendship that, unlike other friendships, are based only on this one thing, the addiction. I don't talk about the White Sox when I call my AA friends. I wonder if separation from your group brings some form of guilt. Together, as part of a group, the hill didn't seem so steep. Not when several others were trudging along with you, however quickly or slowly. Both AA and WW operate from the notion that "I can't," but "we can." This addiction is tougher than me, so I'm not going to handle it, I'm going to hang around with a big group of like-minded people who support each other and we will do it together.

I know I'm rambling. I think you might be happy if you went back, that's all. Wonderful post.
Juli, food addiction IS so hard to fight, it's such a control issue, & while I still think about what-I'm-going-to-eat-today every morning, I can pretty much keep it under control now. I ate obsessively after my first daughter was born & I was going through so much crap & my bizarre low point was when I dropped her off at the babysitter with her probably wet diaper & then came back to the car & proceeded to eat the Zwieback (however you spell it) that had spilled from her mouth and was squished into her carseat.

It sucks because every time you eat you get all filled with self-loathing & misery & you don't feel all that great & you go to bed grabbing at the fat on your hips all disgusted. I hate it, like pretty much all addictions, it sucks.

There are a lot of us out there sending good vibes your way, hope those vibes kick in & help.
I can so strongly relate to what you have written!
Great expression of the experience. I too get drawn into food - it feels like I could eat forever and I want to eat forever. It has nothing to do with health but all to do with needing food to fill something else in me.
Have you ever given OA a fair chance? Try it; it does work and it is a lot cheaper than other programs. Contrary to what you might have heard you do not have to for the God stuff although that helps. You can be an agnostic or athiest and still reap the benefits of the program.

Food addiction unlike other addictions is very hard because we all need food to live. While the alcoholic can avoid the bars, liquor stores and parties, the food addict has to face his or her addiction three times a day.

Trust me about 12-step programs they do work. R
Oi, Julie...what a Pandora's Box. So many gradations when it comes to eating and it's emotional components. I mean, tonite I had some good chocolate chips and red wine and was quite pleased with the culinary combo. But that very same combo could leave me feeling crappy on a bad day. Same food, different mindset.

But overall, good food - especially herbs and spices lately - really recharge me. Not replacing what good food can do for your mind and spirit.

Anyway, not the point. Point is: good piece about a difficult topic that has about 80 heads!
This is a reflection of how I feel. I am a food addict and there are no AA for fat people where I live (OA? overeaters anonymous) so my choices are weight watchers, personal trainer or do it on my own. I enjoy reading your words. You speak of things in my life that others don't know about and couldn't begin to understand... thank you.