This is my twenty-fifth post on Open Salon. I’m hoping this is the one which creates the magic numbers “1 2” at the bottom of the page so I can say I am an official blogger with two pages worth of material. Yes, simple things like this make me feel giddy. Since I came out of the proverbial closet and decided to share my writing with more than my lonely journal and overcrowded hard drive, it has been an interesting ride. With a tiny bit of experience under my belt now, I thought it would be fun to relate some of my observations since joining Open Salon.
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Vocabulary words I did not know when I started here: blogosphere, blog whore, Meta posts, upbraiding, feed (in its OS context), trolling (of the non-freaky variety), Reddit, Digg, editor pick, front page (pick) and more. I felt like I needed an official blog language book upon arrival, I mean I thought I came here to write?
Lesson learned? Good stuff to know. It took me over a month to figure this out. Learn the etiquette; it can be a little like starting a sport like golf. Thomas has a great post about how to increase your blog audience too.
My advice? Don’t be afraid to ask people here questions, I asked my friends outside of OS questions and each place has their own nuances. Do a search on “meta” and you can find some OS User guides. Comment on blogs, add some favorites, and get to know people. It helps. Oh, and I still don't understand Reddit. I gave up on that one.
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Some zebras do change their stripes. There are some conservatives here who will argue with you respectfully. I am not going to give names, but if you are willing to drop the labels and be open-minded, you may find someone who will help you sharpen your views and you both can learn a few things. (A special thanks to my conservative friends).
I will however relate one story with permission. One person, T.S., who I started off calling the sickest misogynist ever, after being deeply offended by a post, countered back by basically calling me a crazy ass (and rightly so). Now, we both still come from differing political viewpoints, but we have somehow managed to become friends. I read a few of his other posts and poems, and he sent me a PM warning me about a potential nut. I actually treasure this in some odd way; it gives me hope for our country. Thank you for your friendship T.S.
Lesson Learned? Be patient, take deep breaths, and argue on substance. Many of us who like to discuss, ahem, argue politics like to get heated but we can do so without threatening to hunt down your mother.
My advice? Don’t swing below the belt. If you start shouting names too loudly, or taking whacks at the ladies, you are going to look like a jerk and not be heard. It also helps to know all the editor's aliases. Special note: you look like a real jerk when you correct writer's English constantly; you know who you are.
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I wasted energy wondering what went into the EP and FP picks. On my second post at Open Salon, I was touched with a beautiful gift, an EP and FP. It was a very personal post about my son and it meant so much to me. I literally jumped up and down the hallway when my husband sent me a text message saying I got an EP/FP, even though I didn’t know what it was, it had to be good, right? So, when I saw posts popping up questioning the editor’s choices after I immediately did not get another one, I left a few comments wondering what went into the choices.
Lesson learned? This is not my job. I have however run a sales division before and I didn’t find it charming when people who depended on my decisions got self-righteous when they didn’t agree with me. Typically, it got them exactly the opposite of what they wanted.
My advice? My money is on not referring to the editors in any type of derogatory fashion, as it just isn’t good karma. Asking questions? Great. Being rude? Pointless.
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It is best to know what a flame war is before you start or reignite one. Yes, we all get pissed off from time to time by someone’s attitude, actions, and especially their politics; I apparently am not immune to this (even after all the meditation I do). If you do a post starting one of these, it might help to also know the hornets nest you are about to stir up. Also, knowing your opponents reputation, tactics, and how far they are willing to go to fight back; this may cause you deeper pause before you hit that publish button.
Lesson learned? Don’t go there. When I did this, the person I posted about said I lied and I had no way to prove I didn’t. At the end of the day, what I was mad about no longer mattered to me; it didn’t feel too good having my reputation being drawn into question so I am sure it didn’t feel too great for that person either. I didn’t follow the golden rule and I have to still live with myself once I walk away from the computer.
My advice? Write it out. Don’t write about the person, write about the topic. If the person has pissed you off that much, don’t focus on them, focus on what pissed you off and counter it with an incredible post. I have seen this done marvelously a few times and often both sides make excellent points and no one has to loose any face.
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I tried to fool myself with the “I write for myself” line. If this were completely true, I wouldn’t be posting here for you to read. No, the writing I do on OS I am hoping other people will read. I do, however, ultimately have to be happy with what I put out there so I don’t let comments sway me one way or the other.
Lesson learned? If I was writing for myself it would still be in my journal or on my hard drive. Respect how others run their blogs. Even if I think it is the worst crap I’ve ever read and I don’t agree with how they handle themselves, I just don’t click on it.
My advice? It’s your blog. Run it any way you want. Nobody else has to like it. Some people run theirs as themselves, some run them from a “persona”, and some don’t think about it too much, like me.
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If it is not fun, why do it? I get a little, okay a whole bunch, scared when I do a personal post. In fact, I have almost left twice because I get sick to my stomach after I do a personal post. It is hard to be vulnerable and then know someone can comment on it. However, most people realize these posts are delicate and are very respectful. I mix it up and find myself having a blast, meeting great people, sharing like interests, and writing to my heart’s content.
Lesson learned? Open Salon is unique and we are truly lucky to have a place to come and share our art, life, writing, photos, politics, news, poetry and the like with each other.
My advice? Dive in, the water’s warm, if you make a mistake be humble, and write some stuff which will blow us away!
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Thank you all for your amazing welcome and the time you have taken to come by my blog to comment and share. I really appreciate it. This has been one of the best things I have done for myself. I consider Open Salon a community ~ I appreciate you including me in your art and lives.


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"I tried to fool myself with the 'I write for myself' line."
Everyone who is writing here clearly wants their work to be read. That line made me smile.
Hope
P.S. I find that a few Saltines help when writing those posts that make me a bit queasy.
Os is a great place and as I always say: "Long live OS!"
'Tis a great place to hang out.
I like this post.
You made me look. I have 1 2 3 4 5 next and last. I
started up here with much apprehension in early January.
The first blogs are awkward to be sure but I've been hooked
from day one. Yeah, the community. Even the right wingers.
(I shared a cool private mail exchange a while back. He's a
good dude with his own outlook that doesn't match mine politically but a good dude nonetheless).
Have a great day and keep on typing :)
Rated!
Don't you know it's ALL ABOUT HER??? ;-D
Seriously, you have some very valuable lessons there, Kate. While I may not agree with all of them (re: I have no problem calling out the editors if I think they deserve it), I think you have a pretty good start to your own "Welcome To Open Salon, Newbie" guides.
Rated. 25 posts? I can't remember how long it took me to get there. In fact, to be honest I would have to say I never even noticed. But now, when I go back through my old posts and have to go to, like, page 7 to get to the beginning, I start wondering if I'm just too damn gabby. :-D
Glad you decided to open up your "journals" to the rest of us Ms B.
Thank you all SO much for coming by. I am a lucky gal.
I treasure the friends I have here, all of them, but especially a few who started as enemies. Nasty words exchanged, posturing, high horses, etc. Eventually, I sought them out and said that much energy expended must be worth something and, voila!, we began to share our livesI will be more attentive to your blog, and just keep the Norton Anthology at hand if I need some Elizabeth Bishop while getting to know Kate Bishop.
That first EP is amazing; I did the same thing. Now I don't really care!
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@Rutilus, mical & Kathy - thank you! I'm so glad you all are here, too. It has been great getting to know you.
@Duane - You too. Ah...
@DHSS - I know, I like to live in denial sometimes. It only works for a little while because I am very bad at it. I will keep those saltines on hand! ; )
@Walk Away - U 2!
@Kyle D. - likewise. I think we all have much to learn from one another and our varying arts. I mean, if we were meant to be the same, we would be right? I am SO glad you are here. You are a brave lady!
@Mission & Scupper - Thanks! It has been so much fun.
@Trig - Thanks! Yes, I noticed you had a lot of material...I'm secretly jealous. Confession: yours was one of the first blogs I noticed, as a former Alaskan. I remember asking you if you were really related to the Palins jokingly...I never got a reply. It is such a great avatar...it is an avatar right? Anyway, you always make me laugh. It is a great community - all of it.
@Elena - ditto. I adore your heart, bravery, and writing. Thank you for coming by.
@WallyM - Nice2MeetU. I look forward to enjoying some of your words, too.
@LunchLady2 - I think we all contribute to OS 101 in our own ways. I just decided to do a post about mine. I'm a passionate gal, but I also don't mind being wrong and learning from mistakes. So, why not share them?
@OE - great analogy! I've fallen way, way down the rabbit hole...
@Bill S. - That's because I just met Freaky. I'm not sure how that happened, I kept "hearing" about her, and we're even from the same state. There, now she's been mentioned three times. I'll add her to my tags - that will keep her happy. ;) I understand questioning editors, I am sure there is some symbiosis there, I am just not sure I am fully qualified to make suggestions there. Until I am, I will be quiet, and say to at least not disparage the person, it's rude.
@Tim & Michael - Ahhh... you guys! Thanks for leading the way!
@T.S. - Thanks for your input. Yes, Token and I have had this conversation a lot, too. It's funny, when we put down our personal viewpoints (what we personally believe, which we usually don't want government to legislate anyway), we all agree much more than we realize. It's those darn labels which seem to weigh us down. I wish we all would turn off the TV, pony up to the bar for a beer or sit down for a cup of tea, and LISTEN to each other. There is a tiny minority making the decisions...we need to take the government for the people back. Thank you, my friend.
Having fun! S
@Dave - thanks!
@mamoore - yes, it is a great playground. I like the monkey bars.
@Delia - thanks so much!
@John - I had to have it explained to me (all of it). Since men don't like to ask for directions, I'll make you ask someone. :)
@rice paddie - welcome!
@loopy - just do it!!!
I hope I wasn't the one T.S. warned you about!;-)
Maybe someone else can verify my memory about the community issue?
@LifeIsGood - Good point! Thanks for that point, it probably is more cyclical than I realized. Wow...that hit me, again, thanks for that.
@mypsyche - I know, it's those little things...they get me every time.
@junk1 - I've seen comments here and there about that...but I have no idea. It doesn't seem like that's a decision you can dictate to people? It certainly seems that way to me and you. Hmm? They may have gotten that one wrong. Kind of seems along the lines, "you will respect me." Anyway...these things evolve.
"I tried to fool myself with the “I write for myself” line"
I do write for myself, because it is a good creative outlet, but of course I like to make other people smile & ponder. I never imagined I could meet so many caring, talented, people when I first started here.
Great post & great discussion!
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@TheBarkingLot4 - My fellow Washington Friend!!! Yay! We can have like "Washington" day sometime. If not, we at least need to take a ferry ride together. Looking forward to it...
@Chuck - I concur. Personally, unless someone goes out of there way to be disparaging, I can typically find common ground. Let's have some fun!
@Cartouche - I don't know if this will sound weird, but I feel like I just got a gentle pat on the shoulder. Thank you. xo to you, too.
@spotted_mind: thanks for getting to the heart of it. I think that's why I originally believed my line, I write for myself. I mean, I had, for so long? It is, like you say, an amazing creative outlet. However, I finally braved the waters...so, I think I was willing to finally put myself out there...to be read, and want that.
The weird part came when people actually began to comment on my life, not just my writing, I wasn't prepared for that. Ultimately I realized this is about boundaries...people's lack of them and my ability to hold my own. This community is more about real life than I could have ever imagined.
@O'Really - Yes, that is sound advice. Steve would make an excellent traveling companion - I wonder what else he may have remedies for.
@Byron - I appreciate the cheerleading. I'm loving your trip series, very beautiful...
Yea....this could go down with
The check is in the mail,
Don't worry, I'll be careful,
and the other, universal lies that people tell themselves and each other.
Good advice.
Blogocombat = online debate in a blogospheric context (Google the word: I own it as Vaspers, Steven Streight, Pluperfecter, etc.)
For the ultimate guide to internet trolls:
http://forums.station.sony.com/mxo/posts/list.m?topic_id=12200012985
I know it was Sartre.
He said something like:`
Writing is conveyance.
You/anyone can be evolving.
Self. Reveal. Revel. Revelatory.
Moment by moment - The insights.
We need each other to see Phenomena.
Your reality. My reality. Everybody can convey.
I remember what a canner once said:`Hi Hannah!
She is a Jewish historian married to a Lutheran lawyer.
Hannah's husband was a legal aid lawyer until Reagan's cuts.
Legal Aide lawyers are the noble civil rights advocates I opine.
Hannah's husband despises bankers. He works in a private hovel.
He's a good lawyer who defends the migrants, homeless, and the oppressed poor. You realize? Yes. Out fellow neighbors, and fellow brother/sister, regardless of race, born in a barn stable [?] across the borders, and Hannah's partner does Not discriminate, impugn, lambaste, bomb with drones, and choose to HATE their own SELF=LOATHE inner rupulsive inner depraved inner soul condition. Hannah's husband is NOT disguting and inner deplorable. Hi Hi Ya two. One great Jew and one fussy poor lawyer Lutheran who sips cheap Pabst Blue Ribbon beer and home-brewed honey-wine. He advocates for whatever various ethnic origins one is tagged with at birth.
on and on. apology?
I mentioned that I've been in a partial invalid condition? I's getting physically stronger after a two-month-bodily makeover? I's nearly croaked permanently when I had a old war wound flare-up? My leg bone needed repair. Then a artery got putrid. No feel No pity! You learn, live, and die. I almost 'gave up the breath of Life' and I had no idea, that last summer I'd be in critical condition, sigh-on a breather machine, spend 8- days in a VAMC's DC's ICU! I was two-months in the great caregiving Va hospital.
When I was released last autumn I wept.
I wept when I ate greens that richly sparkled.
I wept when I heard Barack say:`We will hunt and kill!
I reflected about native Americans who fled to the woods!
I live where Naive Americans fled. General Braddock cleared?
General Braddockis same-same as General McChrystal? Maybe. Bradock widened the Route 40- National Pike. The pony paths.
The National Pike, Route 40- West was widened. Trees got cut.
Trees ::thud::
Trees get cut.
Trees crunch.
Tress limbs break.
What a sad sound.
Fibulas splinter up.
Humor bones crush.
Kate Bishop? You teach.
I'll listen to the grasshopper.
The Katydid crack? No. Sing.
Ya write as green Katydids do.
Nature's musical tunes. Loopey.
I love simple reads too, O Goofy?
I am getting off my convalescence?
I'm healing in body and inner Being?
If so? It's from gleaning rich inner Spirits.
People need each other to see with their eyes.
Hannah said:`You be my eyes and ears, please.
I always recall that Hannah when I almost submit?
I am saying:`I refuse to submit to my war wounds.
Here we can assimilate spirit energies from others.
Hannah and I can tomatoes. Hannah teaches as You.
Thee Politico's acts like a drunkard who left sobriety.
I'm certain I left out what I intended to write. Thanks.
I'll be back this eve IF the Potomac River opens wide?
A Katydid sorta remind me of females Katydid Moses!
We must appreciate all humans or we will be pulverized!
If folk hate a Proverbial iron pike pierces to deaden heart!
edit?
delete?
I'm late?
My poor son.
Farm markets!
Wisdom cries.
Listen and look.
I love the market.
The first morn chirp.
The bird still do sing.
I believe with all my heart that it's important to be honest. I try to say to people in my comments what I might speak to them if we were face to face. I guess that makes my comments a little long sometimes. but thats me. I am trying to be honest. I always hope I'm not stepping on toes with my gabbiness.
Good post KB
@Karin - thanks, does that make us "rush" sisters?
@Vaspers - double thanks! I really appreciate all your professional insights. I need to get back over to your blog!!!
@marytkelly - Thanks! I appreciate that coming from a veteran here. Happy Birthday again.
@tequilaanddonuts - I know, I am silly. It's the little stuff. I hope your Sunday with mom is going smoothly, or roughly, as the case may be :)
@loopy - I think there may be a balance. You can be honest without being rude. But, we all get to make our own decisions, this is one girl's take on things, with a little experience under my belt. It looks like a few people agree? Your welcome for the comment. P.S. I don't like being called sweetheart by strangers - pet peeve - thanks.
@Sirenita - I totally get it. Life is Good reminded me of the evolution part, as well. That is definitely happening for me as well...wanting to start with a "bang", kind of dipping and reaching, and now finding a rhythm. It is nice. I would *love* to have some OS writer workshops form in common areas...wouldn't that be FUN!!!???
@art - my dear. my soul friend. all I can ever say is 'I love you'. words - just - fail - me. you are wise.
@nofrills DEVIL monkey - I hear you. I do. I certainly haven't taken all the advice I have heard here, and I hope nobody takes all of mine if it doesn't fit for them.
I do hope what I've learned is conveyed with honesty and humbleness. I was really honest in a flaming post I did - and it felt like an interpersonal backfire afterwards. I could have left it alone and no one would have probably blinked twice. I'm betting most people would have been fine with it and never said a word again about it, you know? We all are different and thank God/Krishna/Allah/Buddha/Universe for that! I tend to process things with a beginning, middle and end. I'm kind of sharing the "end" result of some of my experience here. I think the beginning and middle are still equally valuable and honest when they happened, you know?
Okay, see, I can be long-winded, too? :) Happy Sunday to you.
@JK - I am glad, too! Thank you...this helped me find you. I am so, so glad. Your ashram experiences interest me greatly. I am an avid lover of all mystical/meditative experience. Health has prevented me from getting to an ashram, yet, but I will get there, believe you me! :)
@C.K.Dexter Haven - hey there! Thanks for finding me. Now I can add you to my fav's and check out some of your stuff. Those editors, or editor at least, are sneaky....
Way to go Kate.
@marcelleqb - I appreciate your input. I had to ask, too. I was just teasing John. I was told it means a post for "all" usually about "all" of us. Like, this post. User Guide posts have meta tags usually. That's what I figured out, I think.
T.S. - glad to see you back. Yes, it was a great convo. I appreciate your input. Seems you have a few more friends than you probably would admit to (I mean that in a good way). Seriously though, your point is taken and agreed. Often, we all really want the same things, even though we may not agree on how to get there. But, if we listen, quit labeling, compromise, and move forward, we could get a heck of a lot more done than the scary place called DC as we know it.
@Loopy - it depends on the day of the week. And the time of the month. Yes, it does matter, no matter what any woman tells you.
@GiGi - First, l-0-v-e your name. Love it. I always wanted a friend named GiGi. Your welcome, hope it helped a little. Take what you like and leave the rest!
@Beth - Really? Oh, I hope so. I always wanted to have a thundering voice; too bad I don't. :) It is already feels cozy.
@Dennis - Hey! Thanks for coming by! I know it isn't your usual cup of tea, so I am grateful. I, too, always appreciate your presence. Dearly.
Keep up the good work!
WS