Kate Bishop

Kate Bishop
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I am NOT a self-proclaimed Renaissance Woman in any sense; more a bookie with a passion for art, politics, children and spirituality ~ I adore my daughter who just turned 7. Daily it is affirmed she is the teacher and I am the student ~ Eccentricities include a love of reading about neuroscience for fun, a hen named Lollipop who escorts me to my car every morning (not kidding), and am damn excited polar fleece is always in style in the Pacific Northwest ~ Otherwise, I like my green tea and on the side of my cream, love shabby chic fashion, and am in awe of everything outdoors ~ I believe most policy answers are simple yet hard. The "status quo" has not been working for some time, which is evident in the state of our union ~ I consider myself a fiscally conservative Democrat (oxymoron?). I respect minority opinion and the absolute necessity it brings to the governing process. I loathe fear mongering and complaining for the sake of complaining which has become standard for political dissent ~ I subscribe to all and no religion at once. In other words, I believe they all point in the same direction. I utilize the principles and/or rituals while ignoring any law making. Satyagraha is the philosophy I align closest with ~ Rule 62 always applies ~ All in all, I cherish life! ---------------------------------------------------------

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NOVEMBER 1, 2009 2:14PM

Public Service Announcement: Alcoholics Can Go To Bars!

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 ...and even dance the Macarena, yes, all without one sniglet of alcohol entering our bodies.  Amazing isn't it?

 

Drunk Passed Out

 

After living in Alaska for eleven years, do you want to know what the most common question I am still asked?  Can you believe it's whether I lived in an igloo?  They are dead serious too.  And, 'they' are over 9 years old.  They are well over 18 for that matter.

When I was writing a political piece recently, I wanted my dear friend Tim4Change to review it because it had some bits about the insurance industry which he is mad smart about.  It was a persuasive political action piece intended for mass consumption, as broad an audience as possible, not for Open Salon.  He reminded me, to keep it simple and write at a 5th grade reading level if I wanted it to be heard and retained.  I knew this to be true, but I didn't know this to be true.  You know?

So, what does all this have to do with a recovering alcoholic being able to frequent a bar you might ask?  Well, I tell you, nothing - directly anyway.  It is just how my silly little mind works sometimes.  Okay, often.  It just fascinates me how misleading labels can be. 

Alaska = igloo

Politics = educated 

Alcoholic = no more fun, going to lie down and die, can't ever invite them anywhere again!

Who wrote these damn rules?

When I find them, I am going to buy them several rounds of shots, get them good and drunk (hey, experience has to be good for something), and show them the time of their ever frickin' lives.  If you see them, will you let me know?

Since I quit drinking, almost nine years ago now, the thought of having a drink while at a bar crossed my mind once.  This happened when I was with my husband on a cool, sunny autumn day in my first year of recovery. We were sitting out on the deck of a favorite restaurant in Anchorage, Alaska while he enjoyed a favorite beer of ours

Yes, in that moment, it was ours.  It was as much ours as our home, our car, our marital status.   I deserved that beer!  Look at everyone else sitting around, having worked a hard day in the yard, or walked their dogs on the Coastal Trail, or made the long reach down to cut those hard-to-reach toe nails;  they were all partaking, why shouldn't I?  Plus, let's not forget, this was the beer I introduced to my husband, the ultimate nutty nut brown ale.  Its beautiful amber color glimmered magically at me, whispering something sweetly kinky in my ear. How dare they enjoy a friendship without me!  Hadn't we always been a threesome?  

Just as I was about to come out of my skin, a "friend" walked out on the deck and interrupted my solicitous dance.  He was a new acquaintance I only knew by first name.  We had met in a room of some overrun strip mall where we sat around talking about how the first, little innocent sippy poo led to nights where I took a swing at a waiter for refusing to serve me (which could have led to assault charges.  Oops.)   He just smiled and waved and I returned the gesture.  When my attention returned to my yummy friend, the beer didn't look so glamorous anymore.  It suddenly looked very much like an adult beverage. While my husband looked old enough to be drinking it, I looked down and saw the hands of the thirteen year old girl who became alcoholic with her first sip.

Fast forward eight plus years later and I can recount dozens of concerts, a few political affairs, countless business meetings, engagement parties, and too many simple evenings out to name where alcohol was on the sidelines.  It may be a headliner for others, but for me, I simply don't even notice any more.  On the rare instance the event or people I am with begin to get a bit, ahem, floozy, I do this really amazing thing...I just leave.  

Extra special tip:  if you get invited to an alcoholic-'n-recovery's party, COME!  Since we can't drink, we like food.  We like it a lot.  And, we are really, really, really good at cooking it up to share with you.  Trust me; I've been to many of these 'type' parties and even thrown a few.  Yes, we're a crazy cult I tell you, dying to inculcate you with our nummies.

So, I simply can not speak for other alcoholics in recovery, or people who quit drinking, but I can speak for me.  Just ask - don't assume.   We don't have an infectious, viral disease you need to whisper while saying sideways out of the corner of your mouth.  We just can't drink.  Many of us like to party, love to dance, will even date (if we're not married, or even some of us who are married); and are, believe it or not, complete hoots to have around.  I promise.  Come on, try it, you know you want to...

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This concludes this very important public service announcement.  I am very appreciative of your time and will no longer bore you with any more wretched details of my life.  Today.

 

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Thank you for indulging my Sunday afternoon snark.  I will return to regular programming when my mind is back in a more balanced condition, whenever that may be.  Happy November.

 

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So, are you saying you WILL date or WON'T date?

Ha!
This was terrific! After indulging for over 30 years, alcohol and drugs, alcohol mainly, I don't drink and for the first time in all these years I now have a clear head, to think, and not the handover head that had to have a "hair of the dog" to to get up with. And it's great. No program, although I think it's great for most, and I'm doing and learning things that my other self put off for years. Former drinkers don't have "cooties", and can party just like anyone else, just without the booze!!
R~
I just tell people, "Yes, a beautiful two-story igloo."

Congratulations on maintaining your sobriety. I have several friends who are recovering alcoholics, we go out to dinner and concerts, it's never been an issue. You couldn't be more right about the food thing either, I'm so glad to be spending the holidays with one of them.
I just tell people, "Yes, a beautiful two-story igloo."

Congratulations on maintaining your sobriety. I have several friends who are recovering alcoholics, we go out to dinner and concerts, it's never been an issue. You couldn't be more right about the food thing either, I'm so glad to be spending the holidays with one of them.
Agree. I, too, have no problem at all getting up and leaving when the party turns south (as in, I can't understand why you're crying and telling me about your dog dying when you were 10 years old).
Duane.....you'll never know will you???? Or, you can "just ask!" ; )

Scanner - We are the life of the party, more so now that we can keep our heads on straight, huh? And, I LOVE not having hangovers...

Sheena - OH! I am SO going to borrow that! Thank you!

Skeletnwmn - Oh, don't remind me of me. :) I did a true service to humanity when I did quit. Thanks for coming by!!!
I follow your train of thought and am proud of you for your progress both with drinking and with the Macarena:)
You mean you don't live in igloos? :) People are silly aren't they? My son and his new girlfriend who can't drink are having a grand time discovering different types of near beer no alcohol. They went to a concert the other night and my son calls the next day and told me how strange, in a good way, it was to remember the whole concert. Now if only my husband........
Great article saying what needs to be said, well done!
So that means we're on for the Casino???? Yea!! I wasn't going to change my avitar for you anyway, Kate. Thanks for the headsup! I promise I won't be a "floozy"...but even non-alcoholics don't HAVE to drink.
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Caroline - I do a MAD Macarena!

Lunchlady - Oh, I know. I take it in good stride - it is so well intentioned. It's just funny to me after all this time, that's all!

Trilogy - You rock! Thanks for being a good sport. I am looking forward to casino night...darn, I don't get to see you get sloppy? Bummer...
This is really a depressing read ~ or at least it ends depressingly.
You see, Kate, I really enjoy when you "bore" me with the wretched details of your life!
As always, rated and loved for the honesty.
I don't do sloppy Kate...but speaking of which..i LOVE your opening picture.
Where did you find that picture of me? ;-)

Entertaining post. I too love going to "dry" parties. The food is the best!
Great point, Kate. Over the years, I have known a number of recovering alcoholics - some of whom enjoy going to bars w/o drinking, and others who just can't stand it. The "just ask" thing is really good advice, obvious though it may seem!
So true, recovering alcoholics are a hoot. I spent three years in AA and had a whale of a good time, hanging out with all kinds of really cool folks who knew how to party. Sadly, I realized I wasn't an alcoholic, and anyway, there were not enough gay atheist meetings. But it was fun while it lasted. I learned to be social without alcohol. The other thing I learned is that drunks are intolerable unless you're drunk, too.
Tim - Ah, thank you for not minding the dirty details of my life. And the divine. And everything in between. That's a true friend!

Trilogy - Darn it! Somehow I guessed that about you. Not that many people who are not alcoholics do. How does that work anyhow? I always seemed to miss the mark...glad you liked the photo.

Dave - I took it when you weren't looking! ;-0

Owl - Your right. I won't really go "out" to the bars for the sake of going out. Bands, party, and real reason to go, fine, but just to hand in a bar, nah, much better things on my plate these days. I just want people to know we really do have a great sense of humor! Even if it can be hard to read (which is sometimes the case with me).

Sirenita - Thank you for validating Sirenita! We really are a wacky bunch. I'm not in the rooms myself any more, but sure enjoyed it when I was. Wouldn't ever say I wouldn't go back, either. This can just as easily apply for "non drinkers" or whomever doesn't partake any longer...
True. I've been in recovery for 21 years, and I have fun at parties and places where alcohol is served because of the new lease on life that I now have.
And when I see people drinking to excess it makes me feel grateful that I won't be feeling like them the next day (if they get to see the next day).
However, there is an old saying, "If you hang around a barber shop long enough you just might get a hair-cut."
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BTW, do you use an eight- or a twelve-team dog sled? And which handles corners better? ; )
This belief that one cannot be any fun without consuming alcohol or other mind-altering drugs has a happy home in the fears of problem drinkers, and as you probably know, any excuse to keep drinking will be trotted out. It's something I had to learn myself, but it's quite true; I can go to bars or other places where people drink and be just fine. For a little while, one may be a bit uncomfortable, but that's true of any change of this sort. Steering clear of those gatherings is wise in the early months, to be sure, but don't confuse drinking with having fun. NOT the same thing.

I can personally attest to the fact that I'm FAR more fun than when I drank, and so is my partner. We actually have conversations and go out and do things from time to time. And I don't have to try to figure out why I have a black eye come morning.
I haven't had a drink in two months and I'm still funny. At least that's what I tell myself. Since all my friends quit calling and I don't leave the house anymore. Well, at least the cats think I'm funny. I think. Maybe I never was any fun, but at least I think I was. Now I'm not so sure. Thanks, Kate. I feel much better now.
Wow, you rocked this topic but good. Congrats on your sobriety (if that's still a welcome sentiment). I had a similar experience with cigarettes. Gave them up 26 years ago (son is now 25) when they were still as ubiquitous as booze, especially in social situations. A few times it hurt, a few times I felt a distant longing for "the good old days," but now, blech.

So when I come to visit, do I need special sheets for the ice bed?
HEY MACARENA!!!!! ~teehehee~

Sorry, so, you mean, you actually don't live in an igloo? Doesn't it get cold out on the ice pack?

;)
Thanks for sharing. I was just invited to speak at a 90 day anniversary for a sister of a friend. I have been sober and happy almost 30 years but had not spoken in awhile. It felt good and I was shaking as I recalled my stories. I remember when I first came to AA, I didn't want a drink but pushed my wife to have extras at bars to make up for my "loss of business", duh. She didn't like to drink so that ended quickly.
In 50 to 100 years the term "alcoholic" will be a thing of the past. In America when people utter words like, "alcoholic," it makes them feel important; as in, they are smarter than a fifth grader. Booze either likes you or it does not; or it likes you but it hinders your mental abilities and interferes with your work.

You are right: we replace the calories from alcohol by calories from food--ice cream did wonders for me.

Enjoyed reading this post much.

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I'm an alcoholic (dry) and I go to bars, drink Diet Coke, and am not tempted to go further. (Rated)
Go out for a Sunday walk and the party lives on! Yee Haw!

Trudge - It depends...do you mean when I was drinking or not?

Leslie - Yes, I had that fear too, until I didn't. In all seriousness, it is a challenge when you have lived a life 'altered' for a long period of time. What I found usually though is my not drinking made others more uncomfortable than it made me....luckily, they stuck around long enough to know I am a nut and like to party, probably harder, since I have the skills to stand up right now.

Michael - Yes you are! It's the universe's way of helping you start this fabulous writing career...yeah, that's it! See how helpful I am...
You are hilarious, don't let 'them' get you down (or I will have to come down and buy them shots, too)!

Sally - no, no, no, we provide the sheets...do you like extra heavy or extra extra heavy?

Tink - No, because of all the dating I do ;0

Thoth - I dunno, 'alcoholic' never made me feel too important...but it did make me feel a little like I had something squirmy crawling on my social calendar. I agree though - I do hope it is a label which can evolve into something which brings about nothing more than a mental note - oh, that person doesn't drink.

JK - Congrats (to SALLY TOO!) Here's to us all smelling better! You can't smoke in bars in the US, can you in Canada? I haven't been north for awhile...

Roger - right on! We all are totally cool with our own limits, eh? You definitely have to find your own...so glad we both have!
My dad only lived for 2 years after he got sober - luckily it was long enough for him to discover just what you wrote about. You don't have to give up enjoying life just because your life doesn't involve consuming alcohol. Great post, I'll be waiting for the party invite!
Before I hung up my corkscrew (well actually, I tossed it out), I don't think I'd been clean of all recreational substances for more than a day or so since high school, and I'm 45 years old now. It takes some effort to fill the old scheduler, but it's really, really good to be sober.
@JK - Wish we had a little bit of that damned government intervention working for us!

@mamoore - I LOVE, LOVE stories like that. It is NEVER too late, that is for sure! I am so thankful for you both this happened...thank you for sharing this with me.

@Leslie - Then serious CONGRATS are in order. Really, I was having some fun here, but sobriety is a beautiful, hard, and wonderful process to embark upon. I wish you well.
Nice job on maintaining sobriety, indeed. Although I have other addictions, I have a dear friend who has been fighting this disease for years. She has had her first year of sobriety and I no longer feel she will have an untimely death. I think she may have made it.
Wow! Great piece! You've nailed what it's like to be alcohol or drug FREE! And the hard part of leaving a love affair turning into abusive relationship. In the beginning of the break-up I always remembered the good part and yearned for the true romance I once had with it and had to do some hard thinking about the bad stuff to regain my sanity.

I hate the labels. Saying "I am an alcoholic" sounds like I identify only with my pathology and am limited to that. I am a person with, among other things, alcoholism. Anyway, that's just a stupid ego distinction. No biggie.

I'm going on 17 years of living life on life's terms, being happy, joyous, free, miserable, sad, depressed, up, down, ashamed, proud, silly, serious -- the whole works. I get to have my life without numbing out to it. I have the privilege now of enjoying profound joy, especially upon waking, and earning all the ah-ha's that come from crawling through pain and meeting my fears head on. I have a right to life and alcohol can't have it! Hah!

My sisters notice, though, that the more they drink the drunker I act without drinking. I just get this vicarious silliness. But when the drinkers in my life (not my sisters) cross that line into rudeness or ugliness after the high part, I don't have to follow them there.

It's just all about assumptions, "us vs them thinking," labels. Aargh. It won't stop and that's life.

Oh, and about the party/eating part? Every summer Crested Butte is the home of a mountain conference where 700 recovering alcoholics and their families converge on our town and within hours the entire county runs out of ice cream.

I'm estatic for you that you got "it." And I get to have "it." In my small town in Crested Butte, CO, which is a ski resort town, I've lost too many friends who gave up and didn't think they would ever get "it" and killed themselves. In a small town, like where you come from, it's like losing an arm.
I've never had a problem with knowing how much was too much to drink but I did know that if you live in an igloo you don't have to run out for ice. Keep up the good work.
I just corrected 4 typos! Dear God no one let me write a piece without my spell check ever again...I'm so embarrassed! Argh!

madcelt - yes, this can be a rip roaring disease for sure. I was hoping to shed a little levity on it, the side which people don't discuss, the *fun* side. I'm so thankful you friend has crossed a major hurdle...it is such a great feeling when you start seeing your path beginning to unfold in front of you.

Joan - thank you for sharing about your 17 years, and for *getting* how great it is to have the range. I hear so many people with the plastered on smile with the "happy, joyous, free" chirp without the understanding we get the privilege of all the other beautiful emotions, too. You truly do need to be fearless to embark on life without anything to block your consciousness...

The Crested Butte party sounds fan-tab! I'm a skier so I have always been meeting to get down there anyway. I've been to some pretty cool parties and meetings all over the world, including far East Russia! That was an experience I tell 'ya. So very nice to meet you.

Susan - always love it when you stop by. Yes, the picture...many of us have had a morning similar to this, no?

T.S. - Yes, Alaska can be accommodating on the "ice" front. We even had "glacier margaritas" once on one of our kayaking trips...one of the better times. Thanks for stopping by~
Kate, I loved this...more things you and I have in common...I quit drinking about 3.5 years ago. Your post reminded me of a great article that J.R. Moehringer wrote about being a recovering alcoholic who loves to go to bars. He wrote the wonderful "Tender Bar"...let me know if you want me to send you the article through a PM. It's awesome! Great post.
Kate, I feel the courage, beginnin' to understand... Oscar W's “One's real life is often the life that one does not lead” is a favorite... Although, I've sampled everything, addiction to adventure, music, and people are 'bout all that ever noosed me... Never beat the hand that feeds you, was always my simposensical theme... This PSA should find a good home here... Datin' is another story, funny, sad! RRR
Mary - I knew I was *feeling* ya! No wonder!

Patrick - Yes, it seems this PSA had a few followers ;0 Yes, the dating thing, rather scary at time, eh?

Kaly - My dear, what in the world is an "activity partner"? Pray tell!
congrats on sobriety, the power of god is with you, I weigh 360lbs. i am a disabled over eater. the church is helping me defeat my challenges. Call upon God and his bodyarmor will protect you from the devil.
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