katina choovanski

katina choovanski
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City-dwelling, country-raised, joyfully car-free, liberal plant nerd who would rather be in school for the rest of eternity. I'm not a writer by any means so I feel a bit small here on OS. I have no dreams of being published or changing the world with my writing but I do enjoy it.

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FEBRUARY 9, 2009 2:33PM

PTSD on OS - Writing through the Raw

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I don't know what I'll accomplish here because I can barely see through my tears but I have to write something while the feelings are at the surface.  The focus of the news in the last few days has left me with the feeling that there is a red hot poker jabbing at a wound I thought was mostly scarred over.  I was kind of on a news/OS hiatus because I had some bigger fish to fry here.  But still the news filtered in to me and by last night, I was paying attention again.  I watched the downloaded NBC Nightly News from Friday which contained an (all too short) story about military suicides.  I found myself yelling at the tv.  What the fuck?!?  Why is this the sexy story of the day now?  Kudos to the reporters who are bringing this to the top of the list right now but where the have the stories been all along?  I lost my husband to suicide 14 years ago on the 28th.  He will never count among the ranks of war casualties because  it happened after he was released.  A month or so after he put a shotgun in his mouth, I got some sort of certificate of thanks from the army for his service.  I angrily scrawled my reply in red marker over the certificate and sent it back.  I asked they how they could dare to thank someone for flailing blindly through the miserable life they gave him.  How could they dismiss his pleas and ignore his pain?  How could a piece of paper qualify as fair trade for a life?  My hands shake as I write this and my face is raw from the tears that won't stop.

My husband joined the military because the life he had been given left him with few other options.  A few weeks in, he realized what a horrible mistake he had made and spent the next several years trying to get out.  Everyone (including me, at first) dismissed it as the usual difficulty with basic training which is no picnic by anyone's standards.  But he was forced to put up a shield to cover up the fact that he was being taken farther and farther from his dreams and his soul.  He was sent to Saudi Arabia for the first Gulf war.  We all watched the news reports about how well it was going.  No injuries, supreme firepower over our "enemies".  About 6 feet away from where I currently sit is a box full of his pain in all the letters he wrote me from there.  He came back changed.  I was young and so sheltered that I didn't really understand what he had been through.  He had no proper vocabulary to explain.  One day, in one split second, I knew.  We went over to my aunt and uncle's house for something where he was greeted by my young male cousin asking him if he had killed anyone in the war.  There was a silence that lasted a nanosecond or perhaps a year and in that time I saw in his eyes a look of pure fear.  I wanted to help him.  He wouldn't talk.  He couldn't talk.  We carried on.  We moved away from family and support where we were on our own and relying on the army for everything.  One of our neighbors in the slum housing outside post killed his wife.  Another guy went from a shy quiet husband to an abusive alcoholic with a pregnant wife who was left in the dust.  And I didn't see it happening to me.  I was in the slow spiral with him.  We clung to each other.  We loved each other and that was all we had.  In a period of clarity, we decided to secretly go see the chaplain on post.  That was the only option we knew of for anything resembling psychological care.  It had to be secret because his commanding officers were already belittling him daily for his obvious difficulties.  Somewhere, I still have both the letters we had to write to the chaplain and the form we got as a grand brush-off.  I'm not sure there was another shared low point in our life together that affected us as deeply as that.  We went  home as asked what next.  We were trapped.  We carried on on autopilot.  He didn't drink heavily, he didn't do drugs, he just got lost.  I didn't know what to do.  I tried to get him to talk and then he would go on hunting trips.  There were lots of long, unexplained "drives".  I just remembered those.  I had forgotten.  Oh shit, I just miss him so much.  

On the morning of February 28th, 1995, he left me a note, a recorded message, and then drove off to his favorite place where two rivers converged.  Somewhere around 10:30 in the morning, he blew his head off with a shotgun.  I had found the note and got there to hear the blast.  I was paralyzed.  I think part of me has remained paralyzed for a long time.  I thought I dealt with it all but the last few days have proven otherwise.   It's been many years and I have a good life now but I will always love him and always wish I could have saved him.  

I know my story is in no way unique or even close to extraordinary.  I know there are countless families feeling the nerves worn raw by the cheese grater of war.  I think that today I am feeling the pain of them all.  I have only one question for the military.  WHY?  And there is no answer that is good enough to explain away all the lost lives.  

 

 

  

 

 

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Bump for Mike. And a thank you to fingerlakeswanderer and Mrs. Michaels.
Katina,
I send you softness for your pain. I'm so sorry. So, so sorry. Words are so fucking inadequate.
Thank you so much. After reading Beth Mann's latest post, I wish you could be here in person for a hug. But your words are my salvation right now.
I grieve with you. My husband hangs on by his fingernails with PTSD and I am always waiting for the other shoe to fall. Only the new guys hit the news now. Older Warriors are forgotten. Rated.
Very sorry Katina. PTSD is widely ignored.
24 soldier commit suicide in January 2009, and it's on page 4.
One day, one day it will be recognized.
(rated)
Snap, I know we can never really know what is in another's heart but I know you must be in pain. In my imagination, I have the perfect thing to say that will transform your lives to one of peace. But on the screen, I am impotent.
More people need to read this. I'm sorry for your pain. I'm sorry for his pain.
Katina, fingerlakes already said it. Words are inadequate. It sucks, and it hurts. For what it's worth, I give a damn that Mike and you had to suffer like that.
Greg, I read your post as well and I thank you for giving PTSD more face time.

To all, I have to get out and feel the sun on my face. I will be back later.
Snap, I know we can never really know what is in another's heart but I know you must be in pain. In my imagination, I have the perfect thing to say that will transform your lives to one of peace. But on the screen, I am impotent.
T & D - I am not a very "out there" person but I want to offer this bit of myself on the off chance it will contribute in some small way to someone's healing.

Mrs. Michaels - It's worth a lot to me.
Nothing I can say either except your anguish is palpable. The human pain is just so intense, and you have conveyed it powerfully here. Thanks for sharing yourself. ((kc))
o my heart is breaking for you. I wish you peace.
Thank you for sharing your story Katina ... it's powerful and even though you say it's not ... it is extraordinary ... every life is extraordinary, especially when it's shared.
Warm thoughts and love ~
Ann
Katina I'm so proud of you for sharing your story and your pain. Only by speaking up can we make this atrocity heard. Thank you, thank you, peace to you.
Words fail here, Katina.

I hope you get your wish of a child soon, and that it helps put more distance between you and all this pain.
Katina, I have nothing to say other than thank you for letting us peer into this window of pain. Thank you for breaking the silence, for Mike.
I must take some responsibility for pushing wanderer a bit with her posts of the last few days.

I'm sorry for contributing to your pain today.

You're probably a bit surprised by what you wrote, but it's beautiful.
So very sorry for your pain and loss.

And you might want to reconsider your profile description: You are a writer, by any means.
I'm very sorry for your loss. My husband got out just in time to miss the Gulf War. There's a lot that goes on in the military that no one talks about. Thanks for telling your story.
This is the most important piece I've read in ages.

Thank you, thank you, thank you.

With much care and respect.
Kat.. I'm sitting here typing this while wearing my magical hat you knitted for me. You are a wonderful, kind and caring person that doesn't deserve to carry this pain. I wish that I could say something that would help you through it.

Friends forever. -Ric
Katina, I can only offer my warmest thoughts and support to you. I wish it could be more, know it is not enough. I am so very, very sorry.
I am sorry. Thank you for writing this.
I am so sorry. there are no words. thank you for sharing your story.
Katina, my god, I cannot imagine being there and hearing the blast, that has to have added to the trauma you experienced through all this. I am so sorry for what you and your husband experienced. The chaplain should be ashamed, that's what they're there for, after all. And of course the military should be ashamed, for continuing to believe that we can bring soldiers back from a war, throw them into "normal" society, and expect them to be OK with the horrors they've witnessed. Deepest sympathies.
Katina, this is so sad. And i think you're right that the uncounted statistics are higher than we know....unless the government acts both to stop the fighting and to provide care (mental as well as physical) to those who've already served, this kind of story won't ever really stop. Thanks for sharing this (raw) story and I hope it helps others to seek help if they need it...all of this talk about stimulus spending, I hope some money is going to mental health care for Iraq and Afghanistan war veterans. Does anyone know if this is the case?
What a terrible time you've been through. Thank you for sharing your story.
I am sad and sorry too... Thanks for sharing.
I have no words - only tears.
This is an important, heartfelt post.......you are good to carry on, sharing this with everyone...
I am so sorry, Katina. Thank you for sharing this wrenching story. So sorry.
Wow! Thanks to everyone for your comments and thanks so much to the editors for helping to get some stories out. I wish my first cover were a happier story but if this story changes anything in even the smallest way, it's worth it.

grif - it was a lot more palpable than I was prepared for.

voicegal - thank you. if only there were a lot more peace in the world.

Mom - thank you for reminding me why I sometimes open myself up.

Laurel - not yet but hoping sometime this week will be the magic time!



Coyote - thank you. and I got your message. I suspected as much from following your comments elsewhere.

Michael - thanks for your solidarity. it all helps. now I have to do something about it.

Verbal - My thanks are to all on OS for making it ok for me to open up like this.

Dirigo - don't be sorry, I obviously needed it.

Lea - some day, I hope I can feel the same.

Allie - I hold so, so much resentment for the complete idiocy and cruelty I saw in the army. So glad your husband got out of the poverty machine.

wakingup - wow. important maybe in that it represents so many others. thank you.

Lulu - here's hoping the ripple turns into a tidal wave.

Ric - it's the wonderful friends like you on here that do indeed help me through it. I never thought I would put so much stock in virtual friends but you are all quite important to me now.

OE - your warmth is felt. thank you.

hyblaean - thanks for reading and feel free to pass it on to anyone who might need to understand.

lpsrocks - i didn't think i had the words either but suddenly there they were.

merwom - exactly! there are times I wanted to track down that chaplain to tell him my story. I thought I was being a bigger person. now I'm not so sure.

umbrella - I'm sorry you had to experience it as well. It certainly changes you forever. Suddenly the word is no longer taken lightly or jokingly.

dolores - I haven't heard about anything from the stimulus bill yet but I'm thinking of making the token effort of sending some version of my story to Michelle since she has chosen military families as her "cause". But I'm going to have to get more active than that.

emma - I thought the terrible time was over. Thanks for reading.

Arthur - right now I am feeling "don't be sad, be mad"

Stacey - I had tears almost all day. now i have a headache. and a huge sense of gratefulness to a lot of OSers.

Gary - from the response here, I am now driven to carry further.

Scruffus - thank you so much. btw, I'm still working on the Lyme story but will hold off a bit so as not to appear a whiner.

hope I got everyone. that was a lot of scrolling up and down!
I am so, so sorry for your loss, Katina, and so sorry that your husband was not taken care of when he came home as he should have been. I appreciate that you were able to put this pain on paper to bring attention to this issue. It's a dirty secret that's been swept under the rug for years and it's about time it came out and was dealt with. We are playing games with people's lives by sending them off to wars for the personal gain of a few and then not providing them the support they need to recover from the hell they've experienced while there. This has happened to so many people, and each story sickens more than the one before. Thank you, again, for getting this out.
oh love, i want to give you the biggest bear hug in the world and have my puppies love and lick on you. i was on a news fast too but also caught the military suicides story and i got furious and my heart hurt and i knew that my own ptsd is nothing compared to what these men and women were feeling before they took that awful last step.

i love you and know a tiny bit of your pain because i lost my husband to the long good-bye of cancer and my best gay friend to suicide.

love love love and gratitude for your sharing the your courage and for your terrible pain and what i teaches us.

teddy/theo and the wonderpups and the late don looney and my late husband richard knight
Sh*t.

Words, in cases like yours, are cold comfort. But it's all we can offer, along with a virtual ear, and shoulder.
I am so very sorry for your loss. And so very angry for the dismissive way the government, who asked for his service, was with your loss.

I'm also angry with the way our servicemen and women were treated during the Bush administration with cuts to services, medical and otherwise. Awful.
Katina..."I know my story is in no way unique or even close to extraordinary. "

I disagree. Your story, your pain, is unique and very extraordinary.

The "use 'em & toss 'em" practice of of our military is not unique. Our service men/women are mere equipment to be discarded when no longer useful.

That won't change.
Forgive any typos, this is being written on my iPhone.

Lisa - thank you. I think I am going to change some things in this and start sending it off to anyone who might have some influence.

Theodora - the comfort of animals is sometimes the best. They just love without judgement. My sincere sympathies for your husband and friend.

Anni - you OSers have the best shoulders! Thank you.

odette - I knew a few retired disabled vets whose benefits were cut in 1996. They were just downright incredulous.

Rijaxn - unfortunately, I agree completely. The attitude within the military will never change. That's why I think any possible change has to come from outside. I don't know how but I need to try.
katina,
so sorry for your loss. ptsd is something that needs to be addressed more than it has.
mary
I cannot find words to describe how I feel about this issue.
*hugs*
More proof that we've been under pure evil for the past 8 years. There is no way that I can comprehend your pain, but I applaud your courage in expressing it.

Keep writing! You do it well.
There are no words to express my sympathy for you. I am happy to hear that you have a good life now, but I can only imagine how this effects you. You're in my thoughts....
How helpless people feel when they don't know the words to say...
I'm sorry for your pain.

{{{BIG HUG}}}
Katina: this is such a raw pain for you still, and it took courage to write this post. I pray that you get some catharsis from the writing and sharing of your pain. The number of comments and the expressions of caring and love will, I hope, tell you very clearly that many people here are ready to reach out to you and provide a shoulder to lean on or a ear to listen. Please count me in that group.

I am sick that an alleged Chaplain could possibly give you and your husband the brush off. That is totally unconscionable. It does not speak well of clerics in the military. Unfortunately it has been my experience that many, certainly not all, Chaplains in the military are there because they could not find legitimate work as pastors and such within the larger church.

Bless you.

Monte
Mary - I completely agree. I am mostly seeing it from the military side of things but there must be so many others out there getting even less recognition because there isn't a big war to attach to their symptoms.

Gayle - I couldn't find the words for quite a long time.

zumalicious - war, by it's nature, is evil. period. but it's never going away so the warriors need to be healed. thank you.

shewhowouldprevail - judging by your name, I'd guess you've come through a few trials yourself. glad you are here.

Gratefuldan - ((thank you))

Monte - I suspected as much. Why would the clergy within the military be any different than the rest of the organization. I hesitate slightly to make this statement because I know it can be refuted but most of the enlisted guys I knew joined for one reason - they felt they had no other avenues toward any measure of success. My father-in-law is a retired officer and joined because it was the family thing to do so I know there are motivated driven individuals but let's face it, the army has a reputation for taking the "less than". I went through the testing at the MEPS center (Military Entrance Processing Something-or-other) and it was very clearly defined for me when I saw the two lines on the weigh lifting requirements. The higher one said Air Force; the lower one said Army.
So very sorry, Katina.
Thank you for sharing this with us.
What a waste wars are.
Padraig - It's kind of amazing the things we accept as horrible yet we carry on.

o'steph - I've tried to reconcile my hatred for all things military but it's very difficult. The only things I think are worthwhile are the humanitarian missions. But war will never go away. So the pain will always be there.
I wish that I had some comfort to offer. We can only hope that the latest publicity will start to change things.

When will we learn that war is not the answer?
I don't think there can be anything worse or more traumatic. I'm very, very sorry.
cap'n - I know there is a lot of work going into taking the human aspect out of war (unmanned drones and such) but the goal will always be to kill and destroy. And that will never end.

trudi jo - it could have been worse. he could have physically hurt me so I'm grateful that didn't happen. Because that means I can still love him.

jane - is there any such thing as a pacifist dictator? because I would like to see a country engage in peace no matter the wishes of it's citizens!
Strangely enough, I come across this today. February 28th. I'm without words. Very strong piece. Days like this, I wish we could be together and just watch an old movie or something.
Heartbreaking story. I am amazed by your strength. Also appreciated your kind comment on my first blog. Wanted to send an encouraging word - even knowing ahead of time the troubles ahead, I would still have my children and still feel blessed every day by both of them. Wishing those blessings for you as well; you certainly deserve them. Thank you for sharing a story that may be a lifeline for someone.
And because Beth and annette found this today, I did too. Thinking of you, Katina. Raising a good strong cup of Seattle coffee in your direction...to life, and keep writing, my friend!
Beth - I did the sky thing when I was in Brooklyn with friends today. It actually did help a bit.

annette - That's one nice thing about OS - we can get a lot of strength from each other. Thank you.

Donna - I thought about you when I was writing this because I think you might have been the first to comment on the very first post I did which was about Mike. If you weren't, that's how I remember it. I could use a good cup of Seattle coffee right about now. It's fixing to be a wintry Seattle day here.
Yes, that was me, Katina! It seems like a long time ago now, but it was only a few months, I think. I'll never forget the power of your writing and your story, how it levelled me at the kitchen table that night. Still does. I walked to Caffe Ladro for the world's best double tall mocha today, and lifted the cup to the sky for you. It's as gray as you remember, but the buds are out on the cherry trees. Spring is coming, I am *sure*.
Donna, I would love to be in the midst of a gray Seattle day to see some bursting cherries. I went to Brooklyn Botanic Garden last weekend and stopped at the cherry esplanade just to look at the status of the buds.
Katina, I'm sorry I didn't see this before the 28th. And I am deeply sorry for your loss. This story is heart wrenching, and perfectly told.

I wish I could send the link to every person in congress. Is there a way to do that? Or a collection of such pieces in an anthology to distribute to the Armed Services Committee??

You are strong. Brave. A talented writer.
May God bless you and watch over you and your husband's soul. Thank you for finding the courage to share this with us. Take care.
katina,
I know that I am a half year overdue to read your post, but I just wanted you to know that it is still making a difference. The writing is so achingly honest and vulnerable. You make this issue so clear and obviously flawed system so transparent. I pray for continued healing for you - enjoy your garden :)
Follow the feed. Thanks Y Heron.
I remember reading this on the 9th,
and it was on the 10th I was blown-up.

John Baca, on the 10th of Feb, in `Nam.
dropped his steel pot hemet on a grenade.
I still see blood, recall the eve clearly, hear:`
moans from both sides, a "enemy":`PTSD.
War's to experience an horrific evil:`PTSD.
War is outside the realm of normal events.

Witness against hate, lie, and bloodletting.
Till the day I die I pledge to address EVILS.
EVIL can incarnate. Architect of war=EVIL!

Again, katina choovanski, thanks for telling.
Remind. a mastermind. theft & war=REAP!
John Baca did receive get a Medal of Honor.
Nixon/BO speak heroism. Incarnation=EVIL!

They are evil. sold-outs. I could go on and on.
Bless you katina c.. Embrace Ya angers. Peace.
It will be a wild day. Nature's gonna say Peace.
Solemnly predict the cowards to shit britches!
listen to beautiful music, birds, honeybees etc.,