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FEBRUARY 6, 2009 10:07AM

Myth: we have to save the Earth

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Myth: we have to save the earth. Frankly, the earth doesn't need to be saved. Nature doesn't give a hoot if human beings are here or not. The planet has survived cataclysmic and catastrophic changes for millions upon millions of years. Over that time, it is widely believed, 99 percent of all species have come and gone while the planet has remained. Saving the environment is really about saving our environment - making it safe for ourselves, our children, and the world as we know it. If more people saw the issue as one of saving themselves, we would probably see increased motivation and commitment to actually do so. -Robert M. Lilienfeld, management consultant and author (b. 1953) and William L. Rathje, archaeologist and author (b. 1945)

What an interesting idea.  I think this would reach a lot of people and we need to get a lot more people interested in conservation - of energy, of land, of goods.

We recycle.  We only have one car and it's a small car that gets great gas mileage (though not a hybrid).  We eat vegetarian for breakfast and lunch. We eat vegetarian dinners 3 days a week (who doesn't love beans?!?  :-) and chicken or fish the other days.  I'm sure there is more we could do though.

The economy is the priority right now but I think conservation should be the next item on the list.  Going green has the potential to create jobs in the long run too.

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I think people would be more motivated if the slogan were We Have to Save Ourselves...
P.S. - Like your picture. It's a lovely place, Lake Louise.
I love "We have to save ourselves". Now we need to get this slogan to someone who can do something with it. Maybe Al Gore?

Thank you. I visited a friend in Calgary last April and fell in love with Lake Louise.
Well said. If we wait on anyone else but "ourselves" to do anything in life, we will die waiting...

I think the right has done a much better job of "personalizing" their issues through framing than the left has. The stimulus bill is the latest example. Everyone understands tax cuts. It means "I get to keep more money and do whatever I want with it." But government spending programs aren't as cut and dried, and it's harder to show how each person will benefit from them. The right has all the easy answers, which consequently appeals to people's selfish interests. The left shouldn't have to lower themselves to that level--but more effort needs to be made toward showing how each person benefits from progressive policies. Your quote above is a good example of that.
That's an interesting point, Blake. I hadn't really noticed it but you are right about the personalization. I keep thinking people should be motivated by what is best for "everyone" but that is often not true. I know I'm not always thinking about others - sometimes it's just about me. I agree, we need to do a better a job of showing how individuals can benefit.
Saving ourselves. Yes, indeed.

Ultimately this is what everyone's talking about. Worries about the sea level rising aren't about the planet, but about saving the cities and people who live near water.

That's fine by me. But if we can't save those portions of the city, we'll move to other parts. It's the way of life. Just so damned inconvenient.
It simply makes sense.
When enough people realize it's in their economic interest to go green, both in money saved and jobs created, things will change very quickly. I think we're just about there, ironically perhaps *because* of the economy.

But yeah, the earth will do just fine without us if it comes to that. I find this strangely comforting.
John, the inconvenience will be considerable. Hopefully that will sway some people but you never know.

Procopius, I agree. Thanks!

Chronica, it's comforting to me too.
The more businesses see that there is profit in the "green" movement, the more it will happen. You certainly sound like you are doing a great job. Important post. Thank you!
We try, Mary.

Thanks for reading!
Thanks for this. Well-written,
Thanks, Delia. I do my small part but I wish it was a concern for more people.