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Kenny1948

Kenny1948
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June 01
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I don't believe in them!
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Any that I choose to keep!
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Well, I'm back. Hopefully I won't rant as much but Politics, Gay Rights and the Environment are still very much on my mind. I'm still fighting those evil Lawn Nazis', and I have all but given up on the intelligence of the average American. I plan to still express my opinions here on Open Salon. Hopefully someone will listen!

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JANUARY 20, 2013 10:54AM

Making Enemies already!

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Well, I've only been back here a short time.  Yet I think I'm making some enemies, by my comments.  One who will remain nameless, but you might know who she is.  ;-)

I know I can get fairly hyped up, when I'm writing about something that really bothers me.  Hell,  now that I think of it.  That's usually the only reason I bother to write anything!

No matter what anyone says, I still feel that the NRA is a terrorist organization!  Maybe that's going a tad too far.  But when someone advocates overthrowing the government, I call them a terrorist!  I may not love everything about this country, but I am not about to advocate overthrowing anybody! ---- at least for the moment

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Since the American government advocates - and is actively involved in - the overthrow of any government that won't buy into the REALLY TERRORISTIC concept that "Exceptional America" has some sort of Manifest Destiny to rule the world, I hardly think any American ought to get upset when an AMERICAN organization suggests the same thing be handed to an American government.

What's sauce for the goose.........and all that, y'know?

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Sky,
Well, I see I'm back to butting heads! LOL I appreciate your comments. I don't always agree with you :-)

No I don't think my government is the best in the world, but I am not up to trying to overthrow it just yet. As for Obama, I'm one of those fools who thinks he is doing a better job than his predecessor. If that's not good enough for you, I'm sorry. By the way, aren't you Canadian?
Hey Kenny!

How ya been? Thought I'd give you the kind of "welcome back" that OS is famous for......

Your outraged rant was a bit overboard, y'know. The NRA may be weird but let's not get too carried away with outright nonsense... which is hard to do with them dudes. You managed though; no doubt of that.

Sheesh! You sounded like all the pre-election GOP or Dem types as they carried on with their... "them others is evil"... rants.

I guess I shouldn't mention your comment on another blog about that person "getting carried away" with her ranting. Shit man.... you even agreed with Freaky Frank.... in public!! Have you no concern for your reputation?

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....And yes, Kenny, I am indeed Canadian; but not to worry, most of us Canucks are nice enough to talk to you Yanks just like you're real people.
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Sky,
No fear, some of my best friends are Canadians. ;-)

Why I asked was because sometimes you refer to OUR government or OUR president, as if you were American. When in fact you are a citizen of another country. That was all. Like a relative, I'm stuck with it because I was born an American. Luckily I am also a German, but I don't want to get you started on that issue. NOT LOL
Oh yeah, I forgot to mention. I don't believe in "manifest destiny". It didn't even make any sense, when I was taught about it in grammar school.

I simply meant that the NRA openly advocates that people posess guns so they can overthrow the government if they so decide. That is what scares me about them. Not that I'm a big fan of our government. It's all about insurrection that I fear, by a bunch of paranoid nuts with guns. Who think that it is their constitutional right to do so.
Kenny writes: "I simply meant that the NRA openly advocates that people posess guns so they can overthrow the government if they so decide."

Governments have a tendency toward totalitarianism. It's not just the U.S. government, but any government. It's virtually built into the "DNA" of government. Governments want to observe everything, know everything, have access to everything, listen to everything, and control everything.

Question: is there a point at which the government could become so invasive and so controlling that you felt that the government no longer served you, but that you were expected to serve it? I think most people can envision such a situation, and some believe that we are already not far from it. In such a situation, would armed resistance be justified?
Kenny,
I try my damndest not to refer to the US government as "our" government. If you see me do it, please point it out to me and I'll accept three demerit points.

Nonetheless, in today's world where our two countries are so economically intertwined, we are also to a high degree militarily, and politically intertwined also. Not identical, to be sure, but each a variation on the other.

Rudy's blog has some good stuff in it. Even better stuff in his comments. You'll like muchly.....

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Mish, Perhaps you are right. However I don't think having a bunch of nuts, armed to the teeth is the answer to a possibility of a government running out of control. I didn't even think that way when the rethugs were in charge. That time, I was truly fearful that we were on the verge of becoming a dictatorship. I guess I'm just one of those who would choose to bail out rather than fight an impossible battle. The idea that somehow if the Jews had guns, there wouldn't have been a holocaust is a sad joke. I'm sure if you asked any of the survivors they would agree. There were resistance fighters even in Germany during the war. Even if everyone had a gun in their house, they would be nothing against a well trained military.
Sky, thanks for the update on your citizenship. Yes we are intertwined, but I doubt the Canadian people would ever agree to becoming part of the US. We aren't that much alike.
Kenny,
Nevertheless, it will happen within the next hundred years anyway. If the US keeps on acting like an ass toward the rest of the world, the rest of the world is going to isolate the US. Or the US may isolate itself so that its citizens don't discover how the rest of the world has bypassed the US. Business Insider reports that the US now ranks 16th instead of 1st in desirable places to live.

If isolation, for either reason, takes place the US will need to include Canada inside itself to assure it of the raw resources located here.

Of course there are lots of sensible people in the US who might opt for joining Canada and forgetting about world domination, too!

About keeping weapons to use against a rogue government: Yes, the government will not be overly troubled as it has a plethora of weapons that will let it roll over any resistance the NRA and friends could put up by way of conventional warfare........ Guerrilla warfare is a MUCH different thing, however; such weapons would be enormously effective in that.

I would arm myself more for use against hungry mobs if the economic system should collapse suddenly - an all too likely possibility - than to use against a government.
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Sky said:" I would arm myself more for use against hungry mobs if the economic system should collapse suddenly - an all too likely possibility"

On this one, I totally have to agree with you. My beef with the NRA is they are NUTS. I have a neighbor who is a member and local spokesperson. He is also has been county head of the Republican Party and is also a Tea Party official. He brags about the arsenal he has in his home. He pointed one of his guns at me, during a tea party rally I crashed. This scares the hell out of me! Knowing there are nuts like him running around. I fear them more than I do, any supposed terrorist groups who may or may not exist! That was my point with the original post. It has nothing to do, with how corrupt, or evil my government is or how they are perceived by the rest of the world.

Just FYI, most of these fools think their country is the most generous, wonderful government in the world. They all fear things like the EU, the United Nations and for that matter other countries like Canada! It's the fact that they are uninformed idiots, that bugs the hell out of me. Lets not get into long discussions about the things my government does. I have been on the receiving end in younger days in Berkeley. So you are not telling me anything I don't already know. I likewise don't think Obama is some kind of god. I simply think he is the best we have going right now, for the majority of the people. Things could be a lot worse.
Sky said:" I would arm myself more for use against hungry mobs if the economic system should collapse suddenly - an all too likely possibility"

On this one, I totally have to agree with you. I think the possibility of everything collapsing, is much more plausible than a government takeover.

My beef with the NRA is, they are NUTS. I have a neighbor who is a member and local spokesperson. He is also has been county head of the Republican Party and is also a Tea Party official. He brags about the arsenal he has in his home. He pointed one of his guns at me, during a tea party rally I crashed.

This scares the hell out of me! Knowing there are nuts like him running around who have access to dangerous weapons. I fear them more than I do, any supposed terrorist groups who may or may not exist! That was my point with the original post. It has nothing to do, with how corrupt, or evil my government is or how they are perceived by the rest of the world.

Just FYI, most of these fools in the NRA, think their country is the most generous, wonderful government in the world. They all fear things like the EU, the United Nations and for that matter other countries like Canada! They are rife with right wing conspiracies. Like that Obama is conspiring with the United Nations to institute a one world govenment. It's the fact that they are uninformed idiots, that bugs the hell out of me. Lets not get into long discussions about the things my government does. I have been on the receiving end in my younger days in Berkeley. So you are not telling me anything I don't already know. I likewise don't think Obama is some kind of god. I simply think he is the best we have going right now, for the majority of the people. Things could be a lot worse. These people are fearful of Socialism, and Communism. They have no fear of a right wing dictatorship!
Kenny,

Even though I love to tweak your tail every now and then, there are few things we really disagree on at their core. The peripherals are fun to haggle over though.

I certainly agree with you that Obama is the best y'all could have done in the circumstances. By far! Yet I still think most of the AWARE Americans are doing a Nero - fiddling while Rome burns. The unaware ones are being led around by their masters as they always are.

There is a real need for this "either / or".... one 'side' versus the other 'side' mentality to stop. All 'sides' are being manipulated..... and not for the benefit of the people, you may be sure of that!

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