Kent Pitman

Kent Pitman
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Philosopher, Technologist, Writer
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I've been using the net in various roles—technical, social, and political—for the last 30 years. I'm disappointed that most forums don't pay for good writing and I'm ever in search of forums that do. (I've not seen any Tippem money, that's for sure.) And I worry some that our posting here for free could one day put paid writers in Closed Salon out of work. See my personal home page for more about me.

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MARCH 21, 2009 11:25AM

Intuition and Knowledge

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I wrote a post recently, Knowledge and Intuition, in which I created some minor confusion. [Yang and Yin: Intuition and Knowledge] This follow-up post doesn't make any really major new points, it just clarifies my previous intent so that, hopefully, I can build upon it another day.

It's ok to stop reading now if that's not your cup of tea. But if you haven't read the other one, you should read this first and then the other. It will make more sense that way.

My previous remarks were intended not to capture the mechanism of intuition as much as to attach a name to the goals, attitudes, expectations, hopes and even fears we have starting out in life.

And when I speak of children, I mean it in the most general and encompassing sense: people who have not yet been tested by life. People who have lived in the protective shell provided by their parents and society, and who have never had to fend for themselves in the world as it really is, with the responsibilities that society is prepared to place on them as first-class individuals.

For want of a better word, I refer to our starting image of the world as our “intuition.” It is a guided intuition, but it is an intuition nonetheless. Unlike the other animals, nature has equipped our minds to allow some of our intuitions to be downloaded from our parents. But what we teach children about civics is only intuitions compared to the reality of what it is to try to get what you need from a real-world government. What we teach people about having a job (or not having one), or about having a family, is just an intuition compared to the experience of actually doing. For purposes of this discussion, that quality which cannot be downloaded in advance and which is the tangible texture of life played out, I call “knowledge.”

Those words have other meanings in other contexts, and I'm not trying to co-opt or limit their meanings. I'm just trying to establish a window into my mind so you can see how I think about these things using the words I prefer.

And so, having been educated as children in our youth, we develop an expectation of how the world will play out. We imagine what the world will be. We have our intuitions. But the world is not, in fact, what we imagine. It cannot play out simply in the ways we imagine. What we come to know of the world will be at odds with those intuitions.

For some, life is a struggle between people and the world around them. How much can a person affect the world and how much does it affect them. It's easy for knowledge to wear down intuition; it's important to remember to constantly refresh one's intuitions so that we can make the world more like we'd like it to be, not just make ourselves more like the world wants us to be.

I may use these terms again, so I wanted to at least clarify my intent. And it may also make some of my meaning in the original post clearer.


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Copyright © 2009 by Kent M. Pitman

This post is a sequel to my earlier post:
Knowledge and Intuition

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It's always interesting to read how you think, Kent. rated
Thanks for stopping by, folks. I wouldn't have been worried if no one bothered to comment here—this post was mostly for my own bookkeeping. But it's pleasant to know it wasn't a waste of time.
Oh, I understand what you meant, but in my mind, it all goes together.
Not only do we squelch children's ability to learn through intuition, we squelch other "intuitions" by making it seem as though it is wrong. We should be guiding them so they learn to use their intuition, but as adults we don't use ours much. We think we are teaching them to get along/ahead in this world, when in actuality we want them to be knowledgeable. I think as the world changes intuition is going to play a larger role.
MA Woman, you said “we squelch other "intuitions" by making it seem as though it is wrong.” Yes, I agree with this. Then you said, “I think as the world changes intuition is going to play a larger role.” I would probably express this differently, but I think I'd be agreeing with you here, too, at least to some degree. I think as the world changes, some people retreat into what they know (and further block off the kind of intuitions I'm worried are getting lost); but the successful attempts to deal with change, which I fear will be sparsely arranged, will involve more of an attempt to reinvent ourselves or to abstract and generalize what we know now and apply it to new situations. We don't teach a lot of that, alas.
rated for clarification, but I dug the first post without the gloss
"But the left brain (language, logic, and teaching) and the right brain (experience, intuition, and heart)"

the concept above from your latest post seems different from the one in this post (at least pairing intuition with experience as opposed to it) is it? or am I misinterpreting?
Julie, a lot of people had trouble interpreting this post, in part because I use this word intuition with multiple, possibly incompatible (though more likely just complex and non-obviously related) meanings. I think some people would have liked me to use the word “preconception” here, although that would have had difficulties of other kinds. Many of us have a sense of how we wish the world should be—a shared vision or preconception, which I here call an intuition. But it is often based on assumptions that don't hold. As we learn more (knowledge) we realize our preconception (intuition) about the world was not serviceable, but I don't think we learn that we shouldn't have wanted the original thing. I think the temptation is to tell the visionaries that being visionary was wrong because it can be proven it will not work. I think the challenge is to protect the vision in spite of proving it must be wrong.

There is a second sense of “intuition” which has to do with that voice based not on naivete but of experience in seemingly-unrelated domains that guides you in certain ways in a new domain. (I claim these are the same uses of “intuition” and that the only difference is that one is based on obvious experience and the other on generalized/abstracted experience from other domains, but not everyone sees what I mean when I say it, so it's easier for me to just say it's just two uses of the word.)

It's not a big enough deal for me to push much harder. Points like this are intended as useful for those who get them and ignorable for those who don't... different people resonate to different insights, or to different expressions of the same insight.
"It's not a big enough deal for me to push much harder. Points like this are intended as useful for those who get them and ignorable for those who don't... different people resonate to different insights, or to different expressions of the same insight."
Kent, you have 3 posts on variations of this idea that I've read in the past couple hours, so I do think it's important to you, and am not trying to challenge your ideas, just get to what you really think, because I think it's fascinating, too.