I saw an exhibit by Claude Monet once at the Museum of Fine Arts in Boston. As you might expect, it featured a great many paintings of water lilies—too many for my own taste, but taste is a subjective matter.
Fortunately, there were a few paintings of other things. They were quite good, too. I thought they were much more notable because of their uniqueness. It made me wish he'd done more of those and fewer of the water lilies.
I also visited his home in Giverny, France some years ago. It was a strange place because I felt like I'd seen it before in paintings, but suddenly there it was in crisp detail, like the scene in Mary Poppins where they step through a chalk drawing into a world of crisper color.
But what was really striking about his house wasn't the garden or Monet's art, but the art he had chosen to feature on his wall. All along the walls of more than one room, packed as tightly edge to edge as it would fit, in two rows, one over top of the other, were paintings not by him but by someone else.
I don't actually know who the paintings were by, and really it doesn't matter to me here. I didn't like the fact that they were packed so densely either, but doesn't matter here either. The visit was to see what he was like, not what the house would have been like if I lived there. And what I did take away, what does matter, is that the art wasn't by him. It wasn't even impressionist art, as I recall.
As a consequence of various experiences in my life, of which this is one, I have come to believe that creativity is not a mystical process but a relatively mundane and mechanical one. It's not about doing something totally random, but rather about doing something quite routine, but only routine for that one person. We are each made differently, and some of are regarded as creative.
One thing creative people seem often to be plagued by is a worry that they will be “found out,” that people will realize they were never creative at all. In a way, I think worry has some foundation. It's my guess they really are not creative in the sense that others think they are, in the sense of a creativity that is mystic in some way. I don't mean to say they don't create something special and unique. I also don't mean to say that these people are not unique and special. But I do imagine the process of creativity to be quite different than I think many people imagine.
I imagine that the thing called “creativity,” the thing creative people do, is regarded as mystical by others not because something mystical is going on, but rather just because those others look to themselves and say “I couldn't do that.” They imagine there is some secret power called creativity that allows the other to succeed at something they cannot. It doesn't occur to them that the capability or experience or skill the other has is far more mundane.
Imagine a Coke machine and a Pepsi machine facing each other across the room. The coke machine knows what it does. It cranks out Coca-Cola. It may know how it does it, it may not. But it knows that it can help a person who is thirsty for Coke. But try as it might, it can't make a Pepsi. There is something about Pepsi that eludes it. It can think as hard as it wants. It can will itself to make Pepsi. But no Pepsi can be made. It is not part of its nature. This particular Coke machine stands in awe of the Pepsi machine, which has the magical power of making something it never can. And yet, the Pepsi machine is in the same position. It knows that the making of Pepsi is an utterly rote activity, but what a feat it would be to emit a Coke. It would be magical and powerful. It would demonstrate the creativity shown by the Coke machine.
This example is perhaps overly simplified but I hope it makes my point in a way where the mechanics of doing and wishing one could do something are accessible to you to contemplate. People are more complex in what they can do, and people learn some things through education and experience after they are delivered from the factory, but ultimately, I think, the nature of the differences between them is not that much different between them than the Coke and Pepsi machines in my story.
In the 2004 movie I, Robot, Detective Del Spooner, a human being, speaks to a robot named Sonny, who claims to be sentient:
Spooner
Robots don't feel fear.
They don't feel anything.
They don't eat. They don't sleep.
Sonny
I do. I have even had dreams.
Spooner
Human beings have dreams.
Even dogs have dreams. But not you.
You are just a machine,
an imitation of life.
Can a robot write a symphony?
Can a robot turn a canvas into
a beautiful masterpiece?
Sonny
Can you?
A good painter who cannot sing is amazed and impressed by a good singer. A good singer who cannot paint is amazed and impressed by a good painter. Even among painters, each has different experiences and different skills. None can duplicate the works of another. Each of us is like a snowflake, mundane in our structure and yet different in our detailing in a way that makes us unique.
I am not religious and don't believe in the mystical. I believe in what can be observed. And I've not seen anything in life that cannot be explained by either the laws of physics or random chance—other than perhaps the existence of the Universe itself, which I'll leave for discussion another day. But within that Universe as it is, however it got here, the rules seem self-consistent and to require no mysticism to understand. Sometimes we don't know the rules, but when we have taken the trouble to look closely, there has always seemed to be one. And I have no reason to believe it will be different in this case.
Fortunately, there is plenty to keep us busy and intrigued—even in an orderly Universe.
So why do I raise all of this? My goal is not in fact to upset people or even really to debate my views. Rather, I wanted to just say out loud how I see the world for the sake of those who are interested in me or this particular view. It must seem a lonely point of view to some people, and I suppose in some ways it is. I suppose that's one reason why some turn to religion—perhaps they are more comfortable being told there are answers than being told that there are not.
Yesterday I read a post by someone calling herself “hourglass figure” that asked a simple question. In fact, the entire post is so short that it's hard not to quote it here in its entirety:
In reading blogs, and just sitting there blinking
like a stunned owl at the quality of writing, thinking
“I should just quit writing, I'll never be that good”?
I replied briefly to her post, but this article is, in a way, an expansion of that reply. Other parts of the of this article were modified from text I wrote someone in private mail recently. In other words, this is advice I find myself giving repeatedly, so I wanted to write it out publicly in case there are others who have this kind of concern.
Not all writings contribute in the same way. Some offer one literary quality, others a different. Some may offer none at all but merely inform or provoke. They may cause people to start a conversation or to write another post, as happened here. Or they may cause effects unseen by informing or inspiring.
I conceive the matter as being somewhat like Escher's work “Ascending and Descending,” in which each of four staircases lead upwards to the next. In an ideal society, everyone has a reason to look up to everyone else because the gifts each of us provides complements those provided by others.
Or, if you prefer, it's like a game of Rock-paper-scissors, where each choice of outcome has its positive and negative features. Some bits of art appeal to some audiences, and others to another audiences, but there is no one form or piece that is effective in all cases.
It's easy to see ourselves as mundane and never really measuring up to our compatriots if one makes the mistake of saying “I could never do that.” But our job in life is not to duplicate the actions of another. Rather, each of our personal bests are achieved and our collective best as a society is achieved, if we embrace our differences and find ways to complement one another.
I'm not saying we're all equals. Some obviously do have skills that others don't. But that doesn't mean it's time for the others to give up—it means there's plenty to learn and plenty of room to grow. Study what others do. Ask them questions. Practice. Collaborate. In doing these things, not only may we find ways to grow, but we may discover others who have the same worries we do and who need us as much as we need them.


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" The visit was to see what he was like, not what the house would have been like if I lived there."
You have such a way...
Furthermore, I totally agree with your point here. If I didn't, I probably would have stopped posting here long ago. ;-)
Thank you again
Webbi x
Ay! Salt was given as winter payments`S/he is worth their salt.
I saw the` Van Gogh museum exhibit. I came home to my farm.
The Golden Lab we had was named Ben Hogan after the golfer.
I considered naming` Lu Lu, Claude Monet. D.o.g. for Dogan.
Dogen was a thinker`Zen. My Grand daughter named`Gross.
Lu Lu's a scruffy large black poodle with hair in twisted`Dread.
Thee male beagle on the farm is the most cuddly puppy`Lilac.
Honest. ho ho.
Untouchable.
She named the most beautiful bantam hen `Pete. Ah! Ho hoe.
Great post.
I'll spend time rereading. Mundane- definition -Mundane. Ah!
definition-
.... belonging to the Earth or world is Not heavenly and not ideal?
We all belong to the world. This world. Now. No one is excluded.
If we are inner city gang members trying to survive selling crack?
Yes.
People may claim a bible or a hair net stopped a B- 52 bomb or bullet?
One may be running on a basement treadmill in the dankest basement cellar?
SPA?
Why
It's such a pretty day. Beauty is everywhere outside. Truth is beauty.
Ah! Beauty!
Yes, truth!
We weave!
Share the treadmill with a pitt bull, poodle, bag lady, beagle, and heat a bagel!
Oh See. Look!
Capture mundane
small miracles
and ordinary
Life's wonder
Epiphanies
Life is mundane. People and the world are far from the ideal we'd Hope to realize.
Far-from-ideal!
Two days ago had a omelette with Robert H. Deluty. He has a book titled`
Giving the Mundane Its Due.
He uses the human zoom lens.
Said:`Robert Rosenthal, Ph.D.
Poets show beauty, humor, joy,
understanding, wisdom, sympathy,
empathy, and our fellow humanity.
Good writing is poetry - in a sorta way.
It's to paint with words
...
Tom Robbins wrote this ...
....
Poetry is nothing more than an intensification or
illumination of common objects and everyday events
until they shine with their single nature. (I like that)
On a walk in the woods
three feet of pure snow
a farmer gets happy if-
I find a dead deer bone
for my O whining wife.
I think about these things alot. You nailed it on a number of points.
People ask me all the time about my creative process and then tell me they are not creative at all.
I believe all humans are creative by nature. Life is a medium.
Rated!
I have come to believe that creativity is not a mystical process but a relatively mundane and mechanical one.
I think this, too. The "mechanical" aspect, for me me, is part of the view that the mind in general works in a mechanical fashion. On the mundane/mechanical view of creativity, I think that Harold Cohen's system Aaron is a good example. You're probably familiar with Harold's work---the most recent implementation of Aaron is in Common Lisp, or was the last time I checked---and it's been under development since the 1970s. Harold himself doesn't call Aaron creative, I don't think, but I did once ask him whether the paintings Aaron did were really art. He said, "They hang in museums," which made me laugh.
In any case, I think some aspects of creativity can be taught and learned, even if we don't understand it completely. One thing I might add to your discussion is that our perception of creativity depends a lot on execution. A creative but incompetently executed piece of work is much harder to appreciate as being creative than would otherwise be the case.
(I used to read a fair amount about creativity, in the context of creative problem solving, though I've forgotten much of it by now. Sigh.)
I really enjoyed this post. It took me back to my days when I was dealing with a dependence on opiates. What was amazing was that I was getting so much creative work done while I was on the opiates, and I became to believe that it was the opiates that were fueling my creativity. That if I stopped taking them, I'd have nothing to say. Needless to say, my creativity has not stopped. In fact, I now credit my creativity with getting me to stop taking opiates because I began to believe that being stoned on painkillers all the time was interfering with my ability to think.
Like you, I don't think there is anything mystical about writing, but I do, at the same time. Why, for example, can I look at a frozen river, see a reminder of a Japanese painting, and then riff for half an hour on the qualities of frozen ice?
One of the most important books that I have ever read on the creative proces is THE MIDNIGHT DISEASE by Alice Flaherty. Flaherty is a neurologist AND a writer, and she takes apart the brain to figure out what make us write and what parts of the brain fuel that desire.
So yes, you are right. Creativity is a matter of discipline. But after teaching, I can also tell you that I have led many, many students to water and I can't make them drink. So, are they lazy? or untalented? And is talent mystical?
Your post has left me with more questions than answers, and for that I thank you.
Steve, I agree with you that it's important that people feel both will and a sense that they are not going to certainly fail. I remember one of the enabling factors in my figuring out Rubik's cube was seeing that others had done it; I think otherwise I would have just assumed it was impossible. I think perhaps great writing is like that, too.
Will, thanks for stopping by and adding your perspective. :)
Rob, some interesting additional thoughts there. Regarding the importance of execution, that's clearly true of some media (like writing) but more questionable in others (e.g., paint). Some works of painted art have succeeded where I sometimes question the competence of the artist. And some works of art succeed in spite of the knowing lack of competence of the artist. (When I was in Barcelona once, they pointed me at a piece by Gaudí which was going to be something in glass. It had been dropped and shattered (one might say poorly executed) and he had decided to freeze the glass shards as the art instead. I doubt that's the only time a disaster has been passed off as art; it was just probably better documented.
I do not feel 'creative'. I know exactly where my ability to write comes from. I have an unusually sticky and vivid memory. I read a lot as a child, perhaps that is why. Or maybe it's part of my nature, and that is why I was drawn to reading, an activity that lends itself to enjoyment more if you can remember clearly what you've read.
I rarely edit much, which appall some people, but it took me years of writing to get to the point where I can write long essays and stories that require only a bit of editing. I have had people express envy and admiration for this, to which I just shrug, because I am usually busy being impressed by people who write short, crisp fiction, which feels like a miracle to me. It's a style thing and no, I can't write that way, not unless I practiced a whole lot. Which I doubt that I will, since it doesn't come that easily to me. - that's another thing. Style is often driven by interests/predilections - in Monet's case, sometimes necessity (his arthritis drove him to do the cutouts later in his career).
In other words, merely having a talent for something isn't enough. It takes talent PLUS years of devotion to the art. What made Bobby Fischer a grandmaster wasn't just incredible natural talent, but also the fact that he spent years basically doing nothing but chess.
What has surprised me in life is not what I can't do, but what I can do, if I just spend time doing it. In my mid-30s I started to learn karate. I remember at the start seeing all of these young people doing incredible techniques and thinking "it would have been nice if I could have done things like that. I won't be able to, but it would have been nice if I could." Five years later I was doing the same techniques.
I was 45 years old when I started studying flamenco guitar. It was clear to me early on that I wasn't going to be Paco de Lucia, but after ten years of study I wasn't bad for a geezer, and I got to be a lot better than what I ever thought I could be.
Inspired by a friend who was a professional photographer, I decided to study photography. Once again, it was clear to me that I wasn't going to be Ansel Adams. But after spending hundreds of hours studying photographs and taking some of my own I started to produce some photos that weren't too bad.
What I have learned is not to worry about being Bruce Lee, Paco de Lucia, or Ansel Adams, but to take the small talents I do have and try to develop them as much as possible. And sometimes I surprise myself.
"It's a great thing when you realize you still have the ability to surprise yourself." -- the character Lester Burnham, in the movie American Beauty.
So is there value in that which cannot be measured? Inspiration, how would you measure it? Or Love?
Personally, I think that artists paint or work a lot with a particular subject because it is a way of learning more, becoming more intimate with, and inspired by, the subject of their exploration. Later curators make something of those explorations that was never intended by the artist. They have their own goals in putting together a show. I remember seeing an exhibit in Los Angeles that was a series of haystacks that were painted over a year. It seemed endless, and yet, if I slowed down my attention I could see that the artist learned a great deal over that year about what he was showing in those paintings. Whether the average person would see what was being portrayed or not, who knows? The same trolls who show up here probably show up everywhere else.
I think measurements often define the limits of our ability to know anything far better than those measurements define any kind of truth. Measurement is very useful, but measuring a person's body, for instance, tells you nothing about the person's interior process. Measuring aptitude doesn't tell you if a person has the ability to produce work that will be deemed worthwhile or if their personality is a good match for taking advantage of their aptitude.
Your views about religion are fairly limited in that you see religion as folks whose exploration of spiritual ideas and practices as sheep being led somewhere less than worthwhile it seems. If that is all it is to you, then you haven't been reading, for instance, what Monte writes, which shows a much deeper level of inquiry that is similar to how you look at what you encounter in other disciplines that are of more interest to you. Mystical religions and the inspiration of artists by their relation to nature or to their ideas about God is not mechanical, and yet, an artists must use some mechanical means to represent what occurs within their experience of consciousness. We cannot measure everything. and whether or not a thing or an experience can be measured cannot be definitive of its existence or value.
In this sense, I believe each of us has varying degrees of talents (plural, we all have many) that can be grown but probably have a genetic limit. Maybe it is possible to view the ability to inter-relate concepts as a talent and the most interesting new inter-relationships get labeled as "creative." If so, then just as some people seem to have a better innate ability to throw a baseball then others will have a better innate ability to be creative.
To me, one aspect of maturity is learning to recognize one's own talents and limitations and trying to match one's goals/desires to create the best fit. As Mishima describes, this does not mean don't try things because you may not be good, but it does mean approaching the challenge with a perspective that appreciates the level of competence you can achieve.
Creation is a process, and creativity is the tendency to engage in that process. You're quite right -- it's not mystical at all, and it can even be taught! In fact, that's what my mother does, currently through quiltuniversity.com, which she cofounded.
There's a lot of mystical nonsense around the process, which helps to enhance the mystic of artists, but doesn't actually help anyone create.
Mostly, it's about paying attention to the opportunities, and being willing to routinely break out from the routine. You can view "artistic vision" as being the set of opportunities you're interested in. Say, ones that take it in a dark and disturbing direction -- such as this rendition of the Arabian dance from the Nutcracker: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tbUsgqKKydk&feature=player_embedded
(I'm not pleased by that choreographer's vision).
Ultimately, however, the path to creativity is simply -- to create. I deal with people with writer's block all the time, especially my kids. One thing I've found to help is to set a very short time limit to get SOMETHING on the page. Writer's block is sort of a conflict between a strong desire to create, and that fear you mention, about being found out to not be good enough. Sometimes, that fear is about being found out BY YOURSELF!
But if you can start getting things down, you begin the process, and get caught up in it. Allow yourself revisions. Don't be afraid of edits, or of throwing something out and redoing it. So long as you are creating, and seeking, you'll arrive somewhere. Perhaps not where you envisioned, but you'll have created.
And the more you do it, the better you get at your craft, of course. But also, the more you seek to create something new, the better you get at that, as well.
People tend to think of creativity in terms of the arts, and especially in terms of a specific field. But creative people can be found in all domains of human endeavor, and creative people are creative in many aspects of their life.
We all have the capacity to be creative. We all have the capacity to be artists, to be musicians, storytellers, programmers -- we start out with those capacities as children. In the end, it comes down to, in what areas do we still play? What kind of ideas do we feel free to experiment with, to imagine, to dream?
Mishima, indeed, there are lots of opportunities to learn things. What seems to be talent is very often skill. Sometimes not. But often enough that it's worth exploring.
Susanne, I don't know what leads you to think I am disparaging religion. I don't devalue it. I'm just saying that as a matter of explanation of how things work, religion doesn't have to be used to explain it. Religion doesn't have to be used to explain physics either, but physics does not refute religion.
Neither did I say I devalue love or other things. I'll write sometime how I think about those, and in all likelihood it won't resonate with you. But that will be you not accepting my view, not me not accepting yours. :)
I think we can all create something. And we are all individuals like snowflakes, as it were.
I am thinking hard here about this post, and like fingerlakes agree that this raises many questions in my mind. I think I still have one........
A lot of things here to digest and process. First, excellent post. The one thing you didn't touch on is the link between mathematics and art. I know many people will dismiss this connection on face value, but there is something to be said/asked about WHY we interpret things as beautiful. There is beginning to be research in neuroscience that is finding the physiological link between a person's impressions of beauty and their ability to calculate things mathematically.
And there are so many examples. Chess, for example, while chess may not seem like an artistic/creative pursuit, there is a beauty to the game, in the interplay between the pieces and the players. But, there is also mathematics involved in one player calculating his next move and the possible ramifications of his opponents next move.
Then, there's the concept of "the mystical". While I don't buy into the dogmatic restrictions of religion, I do believe there are mystical aspects of life, the universe and everything (thanks Douglas Adams). To me, creativity and the creative process are two different things. the creative process, as you said, is boring and mundane. However, creativiity, like the mind, ends up being more than the sum of it's parts. How? Why? If the creative process is boring and mundane, and even mathematical as described above, then the resulting piece of work should, in theory, be boring and mundane. THIS is where the mysticism comes in. The "magic" for lack of a better word, takes those mundane, boring processes, and turns them into something creative and mystical, to the point that it does touch our soul in some way or other. I don't believe humans would be so enamored by artistic creative expression if we knew the outcome and could explain how a few well placed, calculated stripes of paint turn into "waterlillies"
I don't know if this makes any sense, but it's a fun exercise to ask how these things come about. They are not, I contend, simply random. There is a mathematical calculable entity in the creative process, but that can not explain how the process turns out something with a "wow" factor
Bob, a good point about just making oneself do it. When I wrote my admittedly silly series of weekly parodies of The Young and the Restless some years back, I used to just require myself to (a) do it on a mostly weekly basis and (b) not spend more than a certain amount of time. Just push it out the door and go on. I think how I would characterize that is to say that the act of writing ends up feeding back on itself, becoming like an experiment that is tuned over time. One learns through the mechanical act of writing and inspecting what came out in terms of text and effect on readers how to do the next one. And this blog I write, is an exercise in the same. Each piece is an experiment. If one fails, so be it. There will be more. That's the value in interactive media. Oh, and also, thanks for pointer to your mom's blog site—I'll check that out.
patrick, glad you didn't see it coming... it's good to be able to surprise people. Of course, it probably means I should do a bit more of this so it isn't a complete surprise. You can see at my personal web site a categorized summary of the topics I've written about and it's not devoid of philosphy. It's just a minority area.
I don't disagree with you that part of art and love is about learning another, but it's impossible for me to comment on the other parts of what you say without going into other aspects I haven't presently written about, and I'll just get into a tangle trying to make the points I'd like to make in a brief way.
Mssr. Chariot, a good quote. Imagination is an extension of the predictive capability of the mind. The mind does not come fettered with a prior theory of what the world will be like, in part so that it can work in any environment. It takes its cues from the world but is not bound by the world. And it is highly specialized to rationalizing and explaining even things that seem to defy that. Our imaginations allow us to challenge and anticipate the world, for example in dreams, so that we're one step ahead of reality. I still regard the imagination as largely a mechanical process, but that doesn't make it uninteresting. With at least a quadrillion bits of densely packed information in the brain, there's plenty of room for surprise. :)
There's lots in this dense (as in packed) post to mull over, and respond to. I'll pick up on this point, though, and, if I may, relate it to OS--fair game, since part of your inspiration here is the post by hourglass figure. What we're each doing is our own creativity: workign to find, or, if found, to develop or exercise, our voice or our visual talent. If the richness and variety of this place do not demonstrate the value of, let's call it artistic biodiversity, little can.
Let a thousand flowers bloom. Indeed. And if some of us only do water lilies or sunflowers or cactus flowers or roses, that's OK too, as long as each of us explores those varieties to his or her heart's content. The judging is not in the what we do, but in the how we do it, compared to what each person is capable of.
Now, speaking of creativity, have you read "Outliers" by Malcolm Gladwell? It was recommended to me by Cartouche. Fascinating book. "Creative" minds might be called "outliers." They seem to lie outside the Gaussian curve. Like you, Gladwell finds something mundane at the root of creativity: hard work! Outliers usually put in more than 10,000 hours of practice into their craft. Gladwell gives many examples, though he does not mention Monet. I wonder how many hours Monet put into painting before he created something that we would now regard as genius.
Thanks for the excellent post, Kent!
It takes all sorts...
That is how to make something.
The process of research and design are also very mondane. learn about it and use drafting tecniques to get it into two dimensions if required. again math and science.
If it includes an existing object you measure and take a very detailed look at it. It is said that art is learning to see.
That is how you put it on paper.
If your work isn't something that can be found existing it is usually based on variations of things that can.
The art is in determining what to put in the work and where.
Even that has some general rules but it is the real creativity.
I love that you pointed out that, for example, a painter can be in awe of a violinist and vice a versea. Excellant incite.
Kisses!
Marcela
Yet, after all of those things are stirred together, I tend to think that the best of my endeavors seem to flow from my pen (or other medium) independently of any will or intent on my part. We're complex creatures, and of all the things that we KNOW go into creativity, there seem to be many other factors about which we have no knowledge (yet, if ever). Some call that stuff the fairy dust, a blessing of God . . . who knows? To my mind, there's simply more to creativity than meets the eye, and when it's present and when it resonates, we are "wowed."
There are also differences in the values that society attaches to various levels of creativity. Some is mundane, some is exceptional. Some is the product of direct effort and planning, while some arrives in a flash at an unexpected moment.
I think that the primary catalyst for creativity is desire/problem-solving. Problem-solving, defined purely as finding solutions to desired accomplishment, comes in a variety of contexts; personal, emotional, practical, societal, etc.
I think it is important to draw a distinction between creativity and skill. Skill is learned, achieved solely as a result of practice and effort and skill helps express creativity. Creativity is not learned; it is inherent.
As a musician, I see music as a great example of this; I’ve known individuals who could play rings around me, but their ability to “create” a musical piece was lacking. In other words, musician-SHIP, the ability to play an instrument, is a “skill”, but the inherent ability to compose a distinctive musical piece is something different.
Interesting post and topic for discussion.
There is an old saying that goes something like, "Everyone is ignorant, only on different subjects." That is similar to what is going on here. We tend to gravitate toward things we enjoy and generally become competent at those things.
We are all gifted at something and have our own creativity. Just because the creativity may not be seen as art by others, doesn't make it non-creative.
I've had to come up with all kinds of creative ways to problem solve in the construction industry. Though few would call it art. Few could say the solutions weren't creative.
The fact that Monet has no art of his own on the walls is of no surprise. I know very few artists who show their own work in the place where they live. They like variety. They spend enough time with their own works in the production of it (countless hours). Monet admired many of his precedants, as Picasso and others did.
Picasso and Braque admired Cezanne very much, to the point of expanding Cezanne's imagery in Picaso and Braque's invention of Cubism.
In my experience, I admire the sensibilities of others who have put in the time to discover original images and forms. This take countless hours of hard work and some play, all informed by technique for someone to develop an original voice. Some stumble onto it by chance.
Art is a "Professional Practice"....make no mistake...I have taught people to draw who have exclaimed the old cliche: "I can't draw a straight line." I have a technique that works for everyone, but they have to have the discipline to follow the steps. If they work hard, they are astonished at the results of their final works, and even better, they are astonished at the acuity of their visual memory, and ability to think in the abstract.
Thanks for such a well written and thoughtful piece!
Thank you - rated.
I can also tell you, tho, that sometimes -- rarely, but sometimes -- there IS a mystical aspect to the process, as when I look up from a piece of paper and say "where did that come from?" or when I read something I wrote sometime ago and don't even recognize it as my own.
How to explain all this? I can't -- save to say I believe there is some sort of universal source that one is occasionally blessed to be able to tap into. Some Native American cultures have the notion of a Songcatcher, a person gifted to capture the music that surrounds us all, but that only a Songcatcher is able to hear and put into a form others can hear.
As a songwriter, I'm fond of that notion, but I know there is a helluva lot of grunt work behind the process, too. Still it's more than just grunt work. I understand something about how to put words together, how to make them rhyme, and how to choose words that sound good when you sing them. But I have no idea where the melodies that pop into my head come from -- other than to admit they are drawn from something I heard somewhere.
The truth is all art is in the end only synthesis, a recombination of influences that affected an artist. Still, there is something beyond that simple rational explanation, too. At the risk of being accused of Transcendentalism, here's how I put it in one of my simplest and shortest poems:
The poet is the man who knows
Of all the thoughts God gives to him
Which are the ones that should be kept
I'll rephrase what I said a completely different way so you can see it in your context as hopefully equivalent: The engine which is a person is quite complex and one spends a lifetime programming it, by learning through experience a great deal of subtlety about how to sort out the world and about what matters. In the creation of art, I think we draw on that experience in a pretty mechanical way (sometimes in the conscious where we know and sometimes in the subconscious, which has different mechanisms but which are not visible to us in certain ways and are easy to perceive as mystical). In a way we could say this was like a controversy between method acting and more mechanical methods (I forget the term for that). It's not obvious that they lead to different things, they just are processes that people disagree about. The following poem is created relatively mechanically from what I just said and from the general skeleton of yours. But I hope the modality of it captures the mete between what you've said and what I have, and I'll leave it to you to wonder whether it took me 3 minutes to write this or a lifetime, or whether there is any difference in those two statements other than perspective:
Confront life, eyes wide open.
Analyze, digest, and challenge every thought.
It takes a lifetime to write a poem.
I found your piece stacked full, as usual, and mostly I found myself riveted by your perception of your experience. What I found beautiful about the human experience is it doesn't need to be "one way" for any one person, including the process, or others may see it as a gift, of creativity. I see it as both.
I believe it to be paradoxical.
In your comment to Tom, you said, "In the creation of art, I think we draw on that experience in a pretty mechanical way (sometimes in the conscious where we know and sometimes in the subconscious, which has different mechanisms but which are not visible to us in certain ways and are easy to perceive as mystical)."
If the subconscious is merely mechanical like the conscious, why do we not consciously recognize it as such? What I mean to say is, there is no way to distinguish the subconscious from the mystical - it would be a best guess - at best. As someone who has been recognized as "creative" by friends, I was actually called "random in my creative associations" just last week, like Tom I most assuredly see a mystical side to my creative process. I also see a mechanical one. For me, it is both. Can I prove that? Not by a "scientific method" standard; but I can to my own satisfaction.
If it were mundane and mechanical, I assure you, I would not do it. That is the best test I have of all.
I quite agree there is a great deal that is mundane about the process I liken to the "iceberg" metaphor. After a musical performance, the proprietor waxed thankful to me about all the work we had done for the last two-and-a-half hours. Thanks, I said, but this wasn't work -- this was the reward -- the work is all the hours and hours of practice and the dragging around and setting up equipment -- all the effort no one sees that make the "creative process" possible.
BUT -- not to belabor the point, but above and beyond all that is this thing called inspiration, the sort of thing I described previously where you look up from the sheet of paper and say where did that come from? Or the sort of thing that happens when a band really gets in a groove and one or more band members suddenly finds himself playing better than he is capable of -- or at least than he was capable of until that moment.
Unfortunately, he may never be able to repeat that performance, tho there is no logical explanation for why that is so. This is related to the notion of "being in the moment", and in sports it's called being "in the zone".
That sort of "magic" is what keeps artists of all kinds toiling away at the mundane elements of their art in spite of no expectation of reward other than that moment of magic.
I think the key is finding the means of expression that reaches from one mind to another
One point you made (below) is something which deeply interests me...
'the thing creative people do, is regarded as mystical by others not because something mystical is going on, but rather just because those others look to themselves and say “I couldn't do that.”
This seems to be because so many of us forget that creativity is linked to the mundane and routine. We are all creative. We often just fail to recognise it.
Have a look at my post 'creativity and the orgasm'. Some of the topics addressed may interest you.
From Lachy