Like a lot of New Yorkers -- liberal, conservative, chimeric -- the New York Post is a frequent impulse buy for me. Some of the city coverage is exemplary, and its overt conservatism aside, it can capture the romantic, rough-and-tumble underbelly of the city (murder, mafia, midlist celebrities) in a way that makes for a tittilating, 10-minute entertainment.
But they also are prone to running doozies like this cartoon, by Sean Delonas, in today's Page Six. I caught it late, early afternoon, while catching up on Open posts in a cafe. I see others are all over it. How, really, can the Post rationalize this? Can any of our own talented artists on Open think of a plausible defense?
Updated: Here's Post Editor-in-Chief Col Allen's statement on the issues: "The cartoon is a clear parody of a current news event, to wit the shooting of a violent chimpanzee in Connecticut. It broadly mocks Washington's efforts to revive the economy. Again, Al Sharpton reveals himself as nothing more than a publicity opportunist." It's the Travis defense.
Also: Please read Gmgaston, who beat me to the punch!


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Newspapers have a responsibility not to incite the crazies in the world. I hope New Yorkers will stop buying this newspaper based on this cartoon.
Holee.
You have got to be...
No, you aren't.
(Kerry, speaking of stimulus, I just put up something about the COBRA subsidy. I know we have some freshly unemployed OSers here, and I don't particularly want to BW it, but please stop by.)
A case could be made that this cartoon is inciting assassination of our President. Is that treason?
ariana.paz: Exactly. Seeing something like that in a public place is really surreal -- I wanted to grab the guy sitting next to me, who calmly read his novel, and make him look at it so he could share my outrage. It felt like a kick in the head.
You guys gave Murdoch citizenship?
As for inciting action, the normal test as I understand is that it doesn't allow for an intervening opportunity for reflection. I'm not a lawyer, but what I've heard suggests that things written down are rarely taken to incite exactly because the act of reading creates a thoughtful step. It requires interpretation. Inciting happens more if someone was already holding the gun, which is hard to do if your newspaper is open to an inner page. So I think on the basis of traditional case law, no such charge would stick. But maybe someone with more law background could double-check my belief there.
...or something like that.
If it's not appropriate in the Post, what does reproducing it on OS say?
Kent raises the right defenses of the cartoon -- and maybe that's what Delonas thought, the chimp as stand-in for Congress -- but I don't understand how anyone could see this and not anticipate that many, if not most, readers would interpret this another way after Obama's recent campaign stumping for the stimulus bill. And, yes, because Obama's black. Also -- just one page before this is a photo of Obama signing the stimulus package.
What would have been funny is a cartoon of a bunch of chimps jumping around and flinging poo at each other with the caption: "Congress debates the stimulus package"
My only question, to play devil's advocate: If this had been a year ago, and GW was still president, would we be having this conversation? I would have taken it as an attack on GW's intelligence, that he hired a monkey to write his economic policy, instead of saying that HE was the monkey.
Is it only because Obama is black that we're interpreting it differently? Are we being hyper-sensitive about making sure we don't appear racist? (And yes, I know the historical reference of equating black men with monkeys. That alone makes the cartoon in poor taste.)
Don't attack me--I'm just curious. I like Obama, I want people to get off his back and give him a chance to succeed or fail, and stop rooting against him. I can't remember people rooting against GW this way, and he had a much narrower election.
Such vileness has suddenly become comedy.
In addition, you might recall that during the election there were people who carried stuffed monkeys to McCain/Palin campaign rallies.
Ask yourself, what is it that links the stimulus bill to the shooting of that unfortunate animal? The fact that they are current events is not a reasonable explanation.
During the Bush Administration there were many illustrations of George Bush as Dumbya the Chimp. However, if anyone had dared publish a cartoon of a bullet ridden Dumbya they would have been arrested for treason. Why shouldn't this cartoonist and members of the Post's editorial board.
And to whoever suggested that the "chimp stood for congress": in this case we need an arrow with a label.
We are the country we are, with the history we have. There is no excuse for this.
Hi Kerry.
Denese
However, I feel that this is free speech, not shouting "fire in a crowded theatre." What is Glenn Greenwald's take on the 1st amendment's rights of the artist and the Post to publish it, Kerry?
I'd hate to see everyone's rights to free speech infringed by a reaction to a despicable cartoon.
I realize this is a contrary point of view to many commenters here who I read and respect.
Curiously, I bet if someone did mean the bad interpretation, they won't suddenly cling to one of my suggestions—they'll want people to know what they meant, and they'll just defend themselves with “so what?” So I bet you'll get the real answer in due time. I bet they will not be able to stand for someone saying they meant something else. If it has the interpretation many feel it does, then it's the work of someone saying “this is a time that calls for patriotism and this is what patriots look like.” No one with that intent is going to hide.
By the way, no one has really addressed the issue that in the bad interpretation, the implication is (probably) that officers of the law should do the deed. That's also a weird spin and hard to understand. Usually you'd expect someone off the street doing that and then defending himself to the officers by saying that. I don't know what to make of that part, actually. (The parenthetical word “probably” earlier in this paragraph is meant to leave room for the possibility that there's another shooter off-screen who did the shooting and the officers are just sorting it out, perhaps shooting after him as he goes. That's an unlikely read, but is possible. Usually when you've just shot someone and still have your weapon drawn, I'd expect it to be pointed vaguely at the person you shot, not away, but who knows what the artist was thinking. The blood spatter is wrong unless the monkey was shot when he was already down, too, and so the artist presumably wasn't going for ultra-realism.)
I agree. But I would love anyone with legal bona fides to weigh in.
There's been speculation about who the monkey represents, but what about the cops who are doing the shooting? Who do they represent?
I get the joke. I don't think it's particularly funny, and it's in poor taste, but I see what they're going for here.
What I don't see here is racism. I think you have to *choose* to see racism here.
http://legalsoapbox.wordpress.com/2008/01/11/monkey-business-no-laughing-matter/
On your question about the role the cops played: I updated the post to include the Post editor's explanation, which says the cartoon is take-off on the tragedy of Travis.
And like like OE, it strikes me as permissible free speech. Ooh, Kerry wants bona fides. Um, a poli sci class on civil rights liberties will have to suffice from me. The links are too remote between a shot chimp and the President for this to amount to an incitement to violence because nothing clearly identifies the chimp as being Obama. The chimp does not have Obama written across his forehead, nor does he bear any resemblance to Obama. By now we’ve seen plenty of monkey depictions made to look like both him and Dubya. The cartoon is stupid, and apparently offensive, but not hate speech. (And I doubt that the cartoonist could have anticipated placement so close to a photo of Obama signing the package.)
It's OK, Lisa, you ARE wicked smart. :)
I don't believe he was making a connection to Obama (I can't believe he or anyone would be so crude) but it's his responsible to make sure whatever stupid joke he was going for would not be misunderstood (like the New Yorker cover. Ugh.).
All in all, the cartoon is offensive on many levels.
When I first read that sentence, I thought you were asking for some kind of "reply." Thus, my lame suggestion earlier on.
Heh. My daughter often thinks I'm taking jabs when I do similar things with her. But I think empathy is best achieved when people see a little of themselves, or the potential of themselves, in others they are criticizing or questioning. I really wasn't trying to take the easy jab, Kerry, and I apologize if it seemed I was. I'll take those jabs in another forum if they need taking. :) More I thought maybe if it struck a chord and you found yourself saying, “Hey, that's right. People do criticize me for that and it's unfair when they do,” then maybe it would give you a new angle to analyze this from.
"MURDOCK"= neanderthal......enough said....
We cannot ignore the historic significance of our times! I truly respect Bob, but I have to say I believe this to be malicious. It lacks any modicum of taste and he should be reprimanded harshly, along with the insensitive editors who allowed this aberrant racism.
Full disclosure; some of my observations are based on having just worked there (I recently dealt with an editor there doing an editorial).
I don't know how old the cartoonist is, and for some reason could not find a reference to his age, but I'm sure there are plenty of old farts at the Post who, like me, grew up in an era when a drawing of a chimp=African or African-American, unless it was about Tarzan or specifically labeled "evolution."
Disney cartoons in the 50s, shown during the Mickey Mouse Club, depicted African people as strictly monkeys or chimps with spears and jewelry. These cartoons are not included in Mickey Mouse boxed sets , but they certainly existed. The image was also used in comic books.
The Post and the artist knew exactly how this cartoon would be interpreted by many people and just didn't care since its free publicity.
I, too, would like to see if Chelsey Handler mentions this on her show.
But then again, I laughed at the portrayals of Bush as a cowboy boot wearing little monkey.
What's the difference?
1. This isn't funny.
2. Nobody published cartoons of Bush with bullet holes in his chest.
3. We just had days of rioting in Oakland as a result of a cold-blooded murder of a young Black man by Bart Cops.
4. Did I mention that this isn't funny?
Then to compound the error, the editors didn't have the gonads or self respect to say they screwed up and apologize for their insensitivity. Again, a very dense bunch of jerks.
It's awful. And racist. And depressing as hell. Such a violent awful image.
Yuck.
Yes, it's bad. Yes, it's offensive. Yes, it's the New York Post. It is what it is. Will it really make anyone feel any better to have Delonas and a couple of editors lose their jobs over this? Maybe, but it's still gonna be the New York Post. That tiger's not gonna change it's stripes anytime soon; that much is obvious.
The coincidence of this controversy with Eric Holder's speech on race today prompted me to write a post.
http://open.salon.com/content.php?cid=117163
appalling
egregious
fomenting
hateful
ridiculous
race-baiting
just plain wrong
I hate this segment of society. Kerry, please make it go way.
The first sin it commits is: it isn't funny.
The second sin is the one that results in what annoys the crap out of us and shocks us with its blatent racism. And that's the "ooh, liberals'll hate it" yardstick for humor.
funny is funny. this isn't funny.
Conservative view: The majority of the American people DO NOT want this bill.
Meanwhile, back in reality: "In a separate poll released Monday [February 9] by CNN/Opinion Research Corp., , 76 percent of those questioned approve of Obama is performing his duties, while 23 percent disapproved. In the same poll, a slight majority, 54 percent, favors the stimulus bill while 45 percent are opposed."
Conservative view: The cartoon is a clear parody of a current news event, to wit the shooting of a violent chimpanzee in Connecticut. It broadly mocks Washington's efforts to revive the economy. Again, Al Sharpton reveals himself as nothing more than a publicity opportunist.
My translation: If you see a racist message in this cartoon, you're wrong. It's as simple as that. Further, you're an opportunist just trying to stir up trouble.
Personally, I think it's worth recognizing that everyone is not just like me.
on a lighter note, i always enjoyed the aamco transmission commercial of the chimp beating on the transmission with a stick.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/lee-camp/how-the-new-york-post-mon_b_168199.html
We can read into most anything what we wish. If I am to be allowed to speak out I must allow everyone the same right. I don't care for the sentiment and I am pretty sure that artist and editor knew that the cartoon would be taken in this way. The legal folks likely told them that the issue was sufficiently cloudy to get it out there without danger of lawsuit or criminal action.
The right way to deal with this to me is to not give it more exposure by promoting it. Just one more thing, it is no different than the Mohammed cartoon in theory, but even Mohammed wasn't portrayed as being killed by his own.
and what if we find out that a monkey really did write the stimulus package, you're going to look awfully silly.
Such is patriotism in the Bushist world.
The ironic thing is that Murdoch isn't even a 'native American' and got so much suckling off American politicians that you would think that he'd not want to risk pissing off Obama... Well, but that would assume that a thug like Murdoch had a heart, and more than a brain stem...
And he fights the 'Fairness Doctrine' like it's the Antichrist. I look at it more as disinfectant...
Kalvin
I've always heard the saying if you give x amount of monkey, x amount of typewriters they'd write the works of Shakespeare. (can't recall the right number of each) I'm wondering if that's what they were going for here?
I sometimes wonder if it's the people who look at the monkey and see it as a racial slur that are prejudice to think that way first thing and not look to see another meaning in it?
I think what we should be looking at is the fact that even though morally to most people to be racist is wrong, this is still America and there is still freedom of speech and freedom of the press, or at least there was the last time I looked.
I am not a racist, but I find it scary that what used to be just a racist comment is now considered treason or a threat against the president. This to me is something to think about more then the just the meaning of this cartoon.
Not the best of images, but probably the best he can do.
Should I say it? Hell yes! Looks rather like a wrinkle-faced primate himself (URLs for you to compare for your own gratifcation).
http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.gawker.com/assets/images/gawker/2008/01/knMURDOCH_narrowweb__300x412,0.jpg&imgrefurl=http://gawker.com/5002325/&usg=__D_gaZgyKhRLtiDIbSfZmO9ortr0=&h=412&w=300&sz=23&hl=en&start=14&um=1&tbnid=gJ6dS33gPb5ciM:&tbnh=125&tbnw=91&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dmurdoch%2Bmedia%2Bempire%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DN
http://images.paraorkut.com/img/pics/images/m/monkey-844.bmp
Sorry Mr. Orangutan. It would piss me off too, to be compared to such an asshole.
Rated for its ugliness