Nick Leshi

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FEBRUARY 11, 2010 12:57PM

Hey, MTV, I Still Want My Music Television

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MTV has redesigned its logo.  The change is slight but very significant - the words "Music Television" are no longer there.  Read the Advertising Age article for all the details.  Is this MTV's final step away from its music video roots? 

I am one of those guys who became frustrated with the network over the years for venturing into too many non-music programs.  The Real World had nothing to do with music, for example.  It was a trendsetting show, but did it really belong on MTV?  Now that the iconic network is officially dropping "Music Television" from its logo (and I'm assuming from all other collateral associated with its brand identity) does that open the door for more shows like Jersey Shore, 16 and Pregnant, and The Hills? Does that mean the few music-oriented programs left on MTV now face an even greater threat of extinction?  Will the MTV Video Music Awards have even less relevance if the network completely abandons airing music videos and completely distances itself from its music roots?  Who would have thought that I would miss Carson Daly's Total Request Live (or TRL as it eventually became known, as it strayed away from music videos and became more about live studio guest interviews and screaming tweens outside on Times Square).

The music video is an interesting creative medium.  Many people have derided videos for making performing artists focus more on visual style than musical talent.  But some videos are truly works of art and great forms of artistic expression, and I hate to see them become even more marginalized.  With the popularity of video iPods, YouTube, and smartphones, I would think that music videos should be more popular today than ever before.  So it surprises me that MTV has strayed so far from its origins.  Gone are the video DJs.  Gone are the hours and hours of music video countdowns.

MTV has transformed itself into a broader, more mainstream channel that is more about youth culture than about music, which I suppose makes sense for them from a business perspective as they attempt to expand their reach beyond just what they consider to be a niche marketplace.  But MTV was always pretty mainstream in my opinion.  Just like when the Sci-Fi Network changed its name to Syfy, I think MTV's abandonment of its music identity is a big mistake. 

If MTV does not really stand for Music Television anymore, what does it stand for ideologically?  Reality television?  Spring break and summer vacation?  Pop culture?  Celebrities and general entertainment? Fashion, style, and consumer spending? Now they're trying to sell their audience everything, instead of just the music albums they were hyping back when they first began.  I can't blame them for that, but trying to be everything for everybody makes them just one of many other cable/satellite networks.  What's so special about MTV anymore?

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Really, Nick - I have no idea why they haven't changed their name a decade or more ago now. They really haven't been in the music video business for more than the lifetime of most of their current viewers.

Those of us who actually remember that music videos actually existed have been shuffled off, first to VH1 (har) and then down to the bottom of the cable listings, if at all.

It is now axiomatic that any Internet article discussing an MTV property will automatically draw some geezer commenting, "Hey - remember when they used to run MUSIC VIDEOS?"
Sadly I believe Music Television as we all lived through in the 80s is dead. With networks now having to compete with a Reality TV network, and the rise of the reality show, the short form music video no longer holds a place in pop culture. In a way, MTV now has to consider competing with it's more adult cousins the E! Network and Bravo for attention.

But, I look at this on a deeper level, actually. If you'll indulge me for a moment, the significance of this is huge, as social commentary betraying the fact that Mtv *IS* trying to be like every other network, which essentially means their audience is just like the audiences of the other competing networks.

In a sense, maybe this *could* have a benefit in allowing the world to see the X and Y generations in a different light and take us/them more seriously as people?
I used to watch the music videos and shows like Remote Control and You Wrote It, You Watch It on MTV, programming that appealed to a brave new generation. Now when I flip to the station I rarely see a music video and catch glimpses of shows like My Super Sweet 16 and it just makes me feel... old.
Exactly, Placebo! Meander, I'm not just talking about the death of music videos, whiich you're right, has really been happening since the early 1990s. I'm talking about MTV apparently distancing itself from a music identity. Oh, it still claims to have a music connection in most of its programming, but that connection is becoming more and more weak. The problem, as I stated, with becoming too generic and too mainstream and too "something for everyone" instead of having a clear core identity is that you lose whatever sets you apart from the rest.

Maybe too many movies and TV shows were starting to look like music videos that MTV felt that music identity wasn't sufficient enough. But instead of embracing music and taking the music video genre to the next level and building programming around music, they have really diluted their brand so now they are really no different from any of a countless number of other mainstream networks out there.
Me as a grandpa: Sonny, I remember back when they used to show music videos on TV.
Grandson: Music videos? Is that like 8-tracks?
Grandpa: Yeah, kinda.

I used to watch the videos, even though I don't miss them.

BTW, Martha Quinn went my high-school (a decade later, but still.) Wonder what she's up to.
I haven't watched MTV in years. It's become pointless. Changing the name just reflects the change in content. I guess, for some, it might feel like a final nail in the coffin, though.
Nick-

I guess the next question would be, considering the rise of 3-D and "The IMAX experience" that is now being used by movies like Avatar, Alice and Wonderland, and even the Michael Jackson documentary, what IS the next step in the audio-visual media that music videos could represent as the next wave of experience?

I think they may have depended TOO MUCH on their niche audience, and didn't consider what would happen when that niche audience of kids and teens and 20 somethings grew up, and meanwhile other media forms caught up with the groundbreaking nature of the music video, so maybe MTV just realized they had reached the natural conclusion of audio-visual media capable for tv distribution, and changed with the changing times of the newer, younger, more apathetic generation

I certainly don't have any answers, but I can at least make a logical argument for why Mtv abandoned its original format

Simply because society has changed, and it is just trying to keep up
btw, just for the record, music videos haven't died. They've just moved to Youtube LOL
Calling MTV" Music Television" is like calling AMC "American Movie Classics".
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Placebo, the argument about MTV viewers "growing up" and abandoning the network is more a product of MTV's own doing. They have really skewed their programming to the tween crowd, not even the much covetted 18-35 year old demographic. Most music obviously is aimed at young people, and MTV always tried for the "hip" factor, but there are music fans in all age groups. There's no reason why MTV couldn't balance its programming schedule with enough diversity to keep from losing its audience to other networks. But as kids grow up, do they really want to keep watching reality shows about sixteen year olds? MTV, in an effort to broaden its offerings, is actually painting itself into a "generic" corner. It's already lost the music crowd who have grown cynical of MTV as a music television brand. It runs the risk of losing more, while gaining the "masses." If that makes sense. :)
I used to live for MTVs music videos.. it was always about the top 10. We used to know more about musicians by there talent on the screen.
I honestly stumbled onto FUSE and watch the video's there.
Great Post... I loved the Real World and Road Rules... those were the orginal reality shows.
If someone approached a network with a business plan built around showing all music videos, all the time, it would be revolutionary.
As Walter infers, MTV isn't the only television channel that seems to have abandoned its original format. AMC is only marginally showing "classic" movies, and neither A&E nor Bravo have much in the way of arts programming anymore. I predict that the Food Network will also have fewer and fewer actual cooking programs in years to come.

The most striking example of this is probably TNN (The Nashville Network), which tried to reinvent itself a couple of times, and then junked the whole thing and morphed into something called "Spike". I guess they must have held on to the NASCAR crowd or someting. But, then GAC (Great American Country) and RFD-TV sort of stepped into the void left by TNN.
It also reflects the change in marketing strategies. So many 80s bands were actually made popular through their videos (Boy George, Duran Duran, Eurythmics) A good video would catapult a new band to stardom overnight. Now I guess labels just don't want to spend the money on what were become increasingly bloated and expensive videos. It is a shame they've gone by the wayside, some of the most effective weren't necessarily the most expensive, but the most unique and creative ones.
Nick, it's like A&E is no longer the Arts and Entertainment network. You would think the music choice offering would have videos instead of slides.
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Great post. Rated.

I was just thinking the other day about how many great music videos I'm missing out on because a) there's hardly any left on MTV, and b) I hardly watch MTV because of it. If I see a music video nowadays, it's because I googled it or found it on YouTube. Or someone told me to check out a certain music video. Gone are the days of TRL, Say What Karaoke, and the dozens of other shows that MTV did well. Sure, I grew out of TRL. But it's still a fact that whenever I turn on MTV, it's not music - it's pregnant teens, Jersey Shore, or a spin-off on pregnant teens. 'Tis a shame. Thank God for the internet though.
I guarantee that if the music-only channels on your cable tv showed videos (versus stills), a whole generation would be glued to them. And that would include me. : )
Wow! I was just thinking about that this morning! I stopped watching MTV years ago when they changed. It's a pity because I love music videos. But on the bright side, there's always YouTube and Yahoo music -- and at least there you can choose the ones you actually want to watch :-)
To Cranky Cuss: Martha Quinn lives in Los Angeles and is currently raising her own teenage daughter. How do I know this? Because another of the original VJs, Alan Hunter, lives in my city and has his own radio show, and one night Martha Quinn called in to talk to him, and they talked a lot about getting older and no longer being the cool MTV VJs and how they've turned into their parents, and that they no longer see teenagers as "their kind" but instead as sociopaths that need to be kept down. It was awesome, because they knew how crotchety they sounded.
We never had MTV when I was growing up, and I was jealous of all my friends who did. In 1983 we visited some cousins in upstate New York and they had MTV and it was the most thrilling thing. All I really remember from that trip is basically watching MTV all day.

David Bowie's "Let's Dance" was on seemingly every hour. Still one of my favorite music videos.
Shouldn't it be called "RTV" (reality tv)?
The funny thing is that they still have the MTV video music awards- yet they don't play any music or videos.

Hey, if anyone is interested "Snookie" is making an appearance in VA Beach this weekend--- anybody want a bar fight?
Great post. I'm going to refrain from reminiscing about Duran Duran running through the jungle. Music videos make artists a little more accessible. And when done well, they're little pieces of art. I'm not going to lie to you. I watch Snooki et al because I'm unable to look away, but it is a sham that this network still hosts the VMAs, etc.
Nick-

Sorry to keep coming back, but I just had to add...

Thank God for VH1Classic! and my "Classic Alternative" music-on-tv station LOL
Forget it! It's a pipe dream. They make more money on shows they produce themselves like The Hills and those after-shows - I try to watch tv online with mtv and vh1 but I've given up on them. If I want to watch videos I just go to mtv and look them up. I miss the days when artists tried to be original with videos, rather than just trying to have some random party scene with the music playing in the background..seriously.