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APRIL 6, 2009 5:07PM

What Teenage Boys Can Learn from the Movie “Twilight”

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One of the things that I have not been able to grasp in my ten years of gay-dom is the startling, and certainly disturbing, number of things that adult gay men have in common with teenage girls.  Miley Cyrus, Zac Efron, 90210, High School Musical, American Idol, raising voices and waving arms when excited, use of the phrase “Oh My God” and melodramatic movies starring unrealistically stylized leading men/boys who behave like perfect third-sexed robots – meaning they do things that no human heterosexual or homosexual males actually do.   Case in point: Twilight.

I watched “Twilight” with 3 of my gay male friends in their 40s last night.  Our hosts were jump up and down, scream OMG giddy about this movie.  They had pre-ordered it on Netflix.  They had made a homemade but portable dinner that could be eaten in front of the television – lest a delayed start time inflict needless anxiety.  When we missed the first line of the movie because the volume was too low, we rewound and started again.  Just in case.

As almost ever gay man and teenage girl already know, the two central characters are Edward the vampire (played by impossibly bedroom-eyed Robert Pattinson) and Bella something or other (played by perpetually cranky Kristen Stewart).  She’s new to town; he’s the enigmatic heartthrob that nobody can reach blah diddy blah.  Until Bella comes walking in.  He stares, he broods, he nearly throws up with desire when he sees her, he saves her from a runaway car, he broods some more and stares then broods again.  She “whatevers” and sulks and “yeah rights” and scoffs and ignores her nice, perky friends who all fall in love with her while she blows them off to chase the broody one who tells her to leave him alone while following her and saving her from big meanies and…well, you get the idea.

So, the takeaway is this.  All straight teenage boys listen to me.  Don’t be fun, thoughtful, quirky or smart if you want to get the girl.  Be a dick.  But be a dick who can stop cars with your bare hands.  And stare a lot.  And look depressed.  But be good looking while you’re depressed.  And express your desire to be with the girl of your dreams but be vague about why you can’t be with her.  And then avoid her until you can’t.  Confuse her, make her crazy, change your moods by the hour and make sure your hair looks like Johnny Depp in the mid-90s.  But then submit to her will because she’s just so intoxicating that you can’t help yourself – except when it comes to controlling every desire you have that could hurt her.  And then spend the rest of your life lurking outside of her bedroom window just in case she needs you.  Because it turns out that’s what teenage girls want.  As do 40-something gay men, apparently.

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YES! Thank you for this post. I just watched this movie with my husband (who'd never HEARD of Twilight, apparently because he really does live under a rock). I found myself catching and calling out the Edward-brooding something like 134 times. Drinking when he broods would make a good game, I think.
I (to my eternal shame) have read all the books - really if you have read the first one, why not the rest? Well, the second was so much worse. I almost didn't read the third but I had a friend who is gaga over them and I didn't want to hurt her feelings. It was better. The fourth one betrayed everything the Bella character had been about from the first book. It was crazy. It was pretty good even.

I just don't think the movies are going to be worth it. At least it's only two hours out of my life, right?
The siphoning off of my brain hurts...I hated Twilight and only made it through about 100 pages, and only that at the insistence of my teenage sister. After that, the stupid was just too much for me to swallow. I refuse to see the movie and detest the way it turns perfectly sane people into squealing zealots. Even the Titanic craze when I was a teenager didn't zap my brain the way Twilight does to teens now.
Oh the movie, the movie. Well, words fail. It is kind of pretty, nice broody Northwest to go along with Edward, but it is really pretty dumb, and the villains don't show up till 90 minutes in, to quote a review. That said, this 60 year old married guy still plans to read the book, I hear it's better.
Seriously?

As a gay man in my forties, I have to disagree with this post. Neither me or my many gay friends, also in this age bracket, behave in that fashion. Despite media conditioning, we don't all follow such a shallow cliche.

I've done my share of jumping and screaming OMGs back in the eighties... mainly to Depeche Mode, The Smith, and oh.. ok.. Cher. But now, with maturity, I get excited about rather more sophisticated stuff.. a good book, a fine piece of music, good food, etc, etc... pretentious? perhaps.. mature? for sure

Men in their 40s, gay or otherwise, have no business getting excited about pop culture developed for a much younger demographic.

Of course, you can argue that Gay culture is so geared towards a "forever young" mindset, and as such, your friends are in denial of their age... if so, as a good friend, you should just urge them to grow up.

When I was young, dancing the night away in trendy clubs, there was always the old queen in the one corner dancing while ignoring the ridicule and the looks of all the young guys around him. And I remember telling myself, oh god, don't let me grow up to be like him...

Don't get me wrong.. I still love dancing.. but I just do it in a different environment.. with friends my age.. and most likely to Cher (Sorry Britney)
Great post... hilarious!

I refuse to jump on the "Twilight" bandwagon. I'm old school -- in my day, the heroes hunted vampires, they didn't date them.

How vampires went from blood-sucking nightmares to the "better boyfriend than your actual boyfriend" is beyond me... I guess we could blame Anne Rice.
Very funny post. I actually saw this recently on demand -- and no, I didn't squeal once. It fits squarely in the fairly limited fantasy genre I subscribe to (and I heard the movie was good; the books lousy). The movie's fine. But I really loved one scene, early on, where our heroine is forced to sit in class next to the immortal babe, who seems completely repelled by her. We learn later that he can't read her mind, which freaks him out, and that her scent is so utterly intoxicating to him that he can barely contain himself. But his reactions have her sniffing her sweater, wondering what could be wrong with her to freak him out like that.

That's a damn fine metaphor for the thrill, confusion and utter repulsion of young love.
Damn, my Sister is total Twilight Hoe . . .she's read all the books and seen the movie like ten times!
I couldn't even get through the first book . . . . Anne Rice's Vamp novels are just yummy if your looking for the real shit.

Rated!
Teen daughter downloaded this and made me watch it, then watched it again 50 zillion times. Loved the post. Up.
Well, I think Twilight has ruined the notion of falling in love for teenage girls. I keep telling my Tween daughter that REAL BOYS are not like Edward Cullen!
Until the "girls" turn 30; then they appear to prefer the stable, funny, intelligent guys that they wouldn't even glace at when they were, say, 17. Some of my gay male friends over 40 still seem to go hog-wild over young, pretty, ripped boy-toys, though; go figure.
This is an utter embarrassment; a perpetuation of a stereotype circa 1970 and "Boys in the Band". Please stop this. It's not fair to the normal gay guys just trying undo the damage of the limp-wristed-I-really-want-to -be-a-woman scourge.
When I worked in a middle school library, I tried to read the books so I could see what all the flutter was about... I just couldn't get into the first one. I mean, all the vampire character did was look hot and act mysterious.... without the appeal of a real mystery.
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hee hee Oh my.

You know, everytime a tween movie came up that I secretly wanted to see, I'd drag along one of the gay boys. And I'll never forget going to see Amityville Horror with two guys who were gay. We all leaned forward audibly gasping when Ryan Reynolds took off his shirt. Lordy. heh The rest of the movie wasn't spent screaming like schoolgirls in fear. It was spent lusting. Just like the 15 year old girls in front of us.

Ah well. It's fun. That's the point of these sillier things.
"As almost ever gay man and teenage girl already know.."

What a bunch of tripe, er, I mean welcome to OS, complete with a flattering comment from Kerry, FIVE EPs on your first day, and a link from the BigSalon front page.

Please feel free to delete this comment so we can all know that even read them.

This is just so sad.
Yeah, generalizing can be offensive, but it's not mean-spirited, at least. It's just fluff.

I thought the last paragraph was very funny.

"Be a dick. But be a dick who can stop cars with your bare hands. And stare a lot." That, at least, is worthy of the front page. Cheers.
ha! we just saw twilight, and i thought it was hilarious!

if your friends dig that, you should introduce them to the world of angsty high school anime. twilight specifically reminds me of hana yori dango (boys before flowers!!) featuring four characters who are actually called "the four flowery ones".
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0I7q5P4xTRg

you'll note they have reflections. they're just rich kids, not vampires. oh, there is some fine melodrama coming out of the land of the rising sun. you'd think they were all mormon housewives.
Wow, that describes my last relationship perfectly. And sadly...I'm not kidding.
Heh... I've avoided Twilight as much as possible, which is difficult, when I work in a library and about every third person wants a copy of the latest book and are astonished to know about 240 OTHER people also want it. I have absorbed enough by osmosis to suspect there's a vampire in it. =o)

Very funny post, knightwriter. I guess everyone wants what's unattainable. And I guess for night owls, a brooding Johnny Depp type vampire is a desirable date. Especially when it comes to stopping cars barehanded and looking good while brooding.
I enjoyed reading this. Thnx for sharing.
Yeah, quel surprise... Like Germany attacking over the Fulda Gap or something... Of course you guys love him the same way that little girls do. The DANGER (squeal!) the HOTNESS (squeal!) and the SAFETY (squelch?). More power to you, just gives me one more reason to belittle vamp culture. Seems pretty faggy in the first place.
I'm sorry. I don't do the squealing thing... not even in bed.

And I don't know other 40-something gay men who do, and I'm 44.

Although, if I saw Ryan Gosling walking down the street in Burbank, I may squeal a little.

I love the guy like you wouldn't believe!!!

So I guess some gays would squeal, but it's very,very subjective.
Please stop projecting the 10th rate stalker musings of you and your friends onto the rest of the gay populace. This sick Mormon fantasy movie is disgusting. As for Robert Pattison, he's no Gregoire LePrince-Ringuet.
Very funny post.
And VAMPIRE BASEBALL alone is reason enough to rent the movie.
The books may be lousy, but my daughter read all of them within days of purchase (highly unusual). Lousy or not, I would stop a car with my bare hands to find about 100 more "Twilight"'s to keep her nose in a novel.

And yes ~ you absolutely nailed their "viewing" party at home (even though most of them had seen the movie at least 4 times in the theater)!

:) loved it,
Ann
Thank you! I can't abide the Twilight series (I only read the first book) and I often have trouble explaining why. In the future, I will just point people to this terrific post.
Augusten Burroughs wrote about this in "Dry". He thinks the reason is that gay men didn't get to express their little crushes in high school so as adults they will spend hours obsessing over who wore the tight, white t-shirt and what it really means.
I'm not a gay man, but I have been a faggety haggety for over a decade now and the comparison is there for a reason. Of course, it is a stereotype, but aren't some stereotypes based on reality?
Whatever. They're queer, they're here, and they love vampires. Get used to it.
If teen boys take your tongue-in-cheek advice, I hope they first think carefully about what kind of girl they are trying to attract.

My teen daughter and her boyfriend saw Twilight on their very first date. They both hated it and thought Bella was dumb and Edward was creepy. Thank goodness, my daughter does not like brooding robots, but rather guys who are happy, respectful, caring, and fun. Hopefully lots of other teen girls and gay middle-aged men are equally savvy!
Oh good -- Another reason to confuse and frustrate young men, both gay and straight. As the mom of 3 young sons -- one gay, one straight, one too young to be really sure -- I feel for our sons. Social life is way too confusing.

Very funny post.
hah! i just finished reading Austen's "Pride & Prejudice" and it seems that this sort of attraction is hardwired into the female of our species. we always love the bad boy.

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I just do not understand the appeal of the Twilight series. I've read the first three books because a friend told me that it was the next great series since Harry Potter. I'm still waiting for it to live up to its name. Other than wanting to bitch-slap Bella near constantly, this idea of ridiculous gender roles makes me want to throw up. Is this really what woman (and gay men) want? Sheesh!
ROTFLMFAO!!
if this isnt head on right i dont know what is.. LOL thats right guys all young girls want are guys to treat them like crap and piss them off but still secretly love us..

I cant stop laughing its so true. lol
Oh what a beautifully balanced and fair viewpoint this post represents. For those of you not intimately aware of the finer points of sarcasm, that *was* sarcasm. I know, why don't we rake up all those old stereotypes, and post them under the name of 'comedy' ignoring the blatantly sexist and homophobic undertones. Of course it's all in good spirit. I suppose the author has never met a sensible teenage girl, or for that matter a sensible gay man. Yes I know a few gay men who would clasp their hands to their chest and sigh on seeing Robert Pattinson, but I don't know any who would jump up and down. For God's sake stop demeaning both parties with your loathsome way of taking what you know, and applying to every person on this earth. Obviously you associate with shallow people. I bet your girlfriends all screamed and jumped up and down when they saw Sex in the City didn't they? How about you stop and pause and think maybe you are the problem. That it's not the gayness of the men, or the silliness of teenagers that causes your limited acquaintance to act that way, but your poor choice in people.
I have to say I think I am kinda Bi~
I like some of my gay men to behave like teenage girls and I like some of them to be serious & well read and scandalized over gay stereotype...
My 12 year old son's favorite t-shirt says it all.
"Then Buffy staked Edward. The end."
I should have read this before I wrote my post today about Twilight! aaarrgghhh!!!! And I try so hard not to be trendy.
What you have to remember and to me was very obvious, is that these books were written by a Mormon for pre-teens, teenagers.
They are unrealistic. The camera does love Robert Pattinson tho, doesn't it?
i think boys learn a lot from twilight movie they learn the real love
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Twilight-Quiz/236550323889