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NOVEMBER 19, 2009 3:11PM

We Were De-Friended by Our Son!

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Maybe it was bound to happen given time. My partner saw a posting on Facebook that she mentioned to her ex-husband because it concerned her. For what ever reason the ex sent a copy of it to the son and he up and de-friended her, his father, me and all other family members.

I wasn't sure what to think or how to take it. When she confronted the son he claimed he did it because he wants his privacy.

Now let me ask, how private can you be on a social media site? Isn't the nature of it fairly public? If you post something it is there for friends or family to read and it becomes "public" knowledge.  It was not like my partner went snooping and found something in a closed drawer. This was something he wrote on his own wall and put "out" there for all to see.

My reaction took several days to understand. First I was offended and thought, "Why ALL the family? What did I do or his Aunt do?" 

I use social media for entertainment and to stay connected with family and people I don't see very often. I enjoy posting pictures and seeing what other people are doing. For me it's just fun.

That is when I realized why it was bothering me. We don't get to see this young man very often. We live in a different state and only see each other a few times a year. He has started his first year of college and using Facebook is a way of "seeing" what's going on in his world. Now he has pulled the plug on that stating he wants his "privacy"!

When I went to college luckily there weren't even cell phones let alone email. We had the old fashioned land line and snail mail. I'm pretty sure there weren't even answering machines yet. God how old do I sound?

So I understand not wanting your parents to know everything you might or might not be doing.  I was pretty good back in the day of keeping my privacy as well so I get it. 

What I still don't get is why you would even think that being on a social media site like Facebook could in any way, shape or form be private? It's like a bulletin board in cyber space and if you post a note with your name and number attached don't start wondering why people are calling or how they got that information.

 

 

 

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You're old! ;)

I often wonder about this myself. You put everything out there and then wonder why people find something interesting or question something. What exactly did you think would happen?

Chin up!
I'm sorry, Ladyfarmer, I laughed at the idea of being unfriended by your son. Sorry!

And yes, your point about a social networking site being the opposite of private is very salient.
neil- I don't write on bathroom walls so I don't know what you are saying.

Julie-You are right I am old!

Ash-It is kind of funny now but it did hurt at first.
Heck, at least he did "friend" you at one point. Due to a bizarre streak of meanness/independence, my daughter refuses to "friend" me! Mind you, she has friended all of my friends, so I can get the dirt on her whenever I want. She lives to frustrate me, the little stinker.
My sons did that, but I know where they live. They re-friended right quick when reminded of that. ~R~
Neil- I was joking too ; )

blue-Girls can just be plain difficult.

CLM-I know!

Chuck-Maybe one day he will re-friend us, maybe.
I'm sorry that this has hurt you. I think of it as another step in leaving the nest. Facebook is a social network site, but as neilpaul says, you can still limit how public you want to be. I tell my friends things I don't want to tell my parents--and I'm 46. My daughter has a Facebook page, and I wouldn't dream of trying to friend her. I figure she's got her life to lead, and I've got mine. Besides, if she wants to tell me stuff, I'd rather hear it from her lips rather than reading it on Facebook. Hang in there. It gets better.
I think he realized what a colossal mistake it is to "friend" your parents, and corrected his previous error.
I got the mother-son talk.... Do not leave me messages on FB... you comment too much. If you want something, text me. and on and on... sorry son... I will respect your privacy. xoxo
The newspaper at one of the community colleges I teach for just ran an editorial about not "allowing" parents onto Facebook, so I think this is a trend. And check out this video from The Onion. Looks like the beginning of the end for us parents!

http://www.theonion.com/content/video/facebook_twitter_revolutionizing
boundaries; that is a good thing. I wouldn't want my parents on facebook; don't take it personally: he always loves his mama :)
There is, or at least should be, an assumption of a generational divide on the internet. As you said, when you went away to college your parents had no idea of what you were up to because that was impossible. Just because it is possible now does not mean it is desirable.

College is a time for parents to grow and learn perhaps even more so than their offspring. Your stepchild is becoming an adult. Realizing that and respecting their autonomy, and therefore, their privacy will lead to a much better relationship with your kids than if you maintain the notion that you should know everything they're up to, even online.

The internet (especially facebook) has become akin to the dorm hallway, bar, fraternity meeting, library study area, etc. that previous generations used to get together. Your partner's son wants to participate in this environment without being held to, or even thinking about, the standards that his parents might hold him to. You should let him.
Most sites on Facebook are set to private, to keep the trolls, and parents, out.
Facebook can be as private or public as you want it to be. You can configure different things to display to different parts of your friends or to the whole world. If you want, you can allow nobody to see it.

When my kids are in college, I hope that they "friend" me on Facebook. However, that said, I also hope that they are discrete (and savvy) enough to block me from things that I don't need to see.
Most of us survived college without Facebook, and still have relationships with our parents. I do. A little distance is a good thing, and that's what college is for! Send your son a letter. A real, live, paper, snail mail letter. Send photos. Real ones that you get from the drugstore. Let him know that you love him, and leave it at that. He's allowed to set whatever boundaries he wants for himself.
rmgosselin, I saw that video when it came out! I posted it on my facebook!!! It speaks wonders!
I heard on NPR the other day that "unfriend" has been the called the number one new word of 2009. Apparently the word goes back to the 17th century, so it is not a new word at all, just a reemerging one.

I feel for you. But I also feel that FB crosses so many lines and feels oddly like an invasion of privacy. It's a strange phenom.
I don't comment on my kids sites in college cause I don't want to get bumped. It can be a very private issue for them...and I respect it. Who wants old Mom commenting on everything...It's like hanging out in class or at a Frat party with them. I get it.
Facebook came along not long after my kids were past the college days. I must say, it was a very fine day when they actually suggested I get on FB and their friends want to be mine.
What Existence of Contradiction said. Don't be too put off by it.
My daughter defriended me. She was 17. She a great kid, Valedictorian and all that... but she got pissed at me over something and it's all she could think to do! It' sjust annoying when I want to share something I see with her.... she's starting college next Fall and damn it! She will friend me back!!!!
Which would you rather be, de-friended or disowned?
The Giant refused to friend me, or his mother, and defriended his dad . . . I think it's his declaration of independence.
I'm with Stellaa, though, I'm not even on FB. My kids are 'friends' with their Aunts and Uncles but with various levels of privacy attached. I just stay away from FB as it holds no allure for me, but I understand that for some people it is a real way to communicate and have fun.
I can't believe you aren't making the connection to the obvious reason he defriended you: he started college. That's precisely when my own son, who was my very first friend on FB (voluntarily), suddenly changed all his settings so I could barely see anything. This boy is doing things, hanging with people, and keeping hours that he never did before, and he doesn't want his family knowing about it. I wouldn't take it personally.
As a college student, it drives me nuts when my parents get upset about stuff like this.

The reason you were defriended is simple, your partner was a tattle tale. If nothing was said about it, there would probably be no problem. I refuse to add my mom as a friend for the simple reason that I know she will pick apart everything on my facebook. "Who's that guy you're with? Are you at a party? You know better than to stay out late partying." He trusted you and your partner and your partner ratted him out. If this was someone who was thirty would you bother telling their parents? This is why he considered it an invasion of privacy. Sure, everyone else can see it, but they'll also know not to go make a big deal out of everything posted.

Yes, I understand as much as new college students like to think that we're adults, were still amazingly young and stupid. However, we expect to be treated as young adults and stuff like this just grates on our nerves.
I probably shouldn't admit to even having this knowledge, let alone sharing it, but your son is not all that savvy a Facebook user, otherwise he would have known that he can set different access levels to different sets of material on his Facebook page.
Do you prefer him being honest enough to simply pull the plug our would you have preferred that he limit your access to the point where you only saw the pre-filtered bits he wanted you to see (and you never would have been any the wiser)?
Wow I love all this feedback!
A huge thanks for everyone who commented. Yes, we know it is time to let go and it's not easy. He is a very good young man and we believe that he will be a future bright star in whatever he chooses.
I "hid" my daughter's fb status from my feed because I get too annoyed when she posts about things like being bored. My adult brain says how can you be in college and be bored? But she's entitled to her feelings and to posting whatever she wants, and it's better for our relationship if I just step aside and let her grow up.
I've read that it's not uncommon for students to tell their parents and other older relatives to stay away from their Facebook page. Maybe today it's part of growing up and becoming independent? Like putting a keep-out sign on your bedroom door when you're in high school, although your friends are welcome to your room.
Wow. Maybe I'm different but my kids all friended me on FB. That's how we all keep in touch with eachother. They're spread out across the globe and it's easy for us ALL to communicate on FB.

I opened my FB account when I worked at the University, as a way of contacting my students about events,etc. since they always check the "face" and never check their university email. I have over a hundred college age friends and none of them have ever de-friended me, at least that I'm aware of.

But, I also NEVER pick apart my kids, or my kids' friends postings (they have all asked me to be their friend...I've never initiated). They are all young adults. The operative word here is adults.

I guess I'll feel fortunate from now on that my kids allow me access to their pages. I just never thought about it before.

And, if I'm ever de friended by any of mine, I'll remember this post and all the comments and try not to take it personally. On that note, I'll try to send my comments via private message more now and post less on their pages. Just in case ;)
All good points here.
We were very aware and sensitive about writing anything on his wall. Mostly it was just a way of looking into his world for a second. What he posted that was so alarming was that he had purchased 2 vipers to go with his other assorted reptiles. Yes, he has a venomous license but it is still terrifying for us to think about him housing these types of snakes!
I appreciate the range of comments here-thanks!
When I told my college-age son that I had joined Facebook, his first response was a snort of disgust, followed immediately by this statement:

"Well, I'm never gonna FRIEND you."

Smart boy!
He's a college student. Reality doesn't settle in until a few years later.
If you, parent or other oldster, wants to be part of your kid's online social network, you need to proceed with a little self-discipline. Not every comment or disclosure the kid makes is put out there for your response; in fact, unless you're lucky enough to have the kid ask you directly for your opinion, it's best to assume you're being invited to keep your thoughts to yourself. Sure--I make allowances for the kid's expression of suicidal thoughts or statement of plans to commit a felony; in those cases, feel free to intervene. But the rest of the time, there's a lot to be learned by watching and listening and little to be gained from well-meaning but uninvited intervention into the kid's affairs. If you want proof, think about how much you welcomed your own parents' unasked-for advice.
Okay. I'm still trying to figure out the first paragraph. Is this you son or your step son? And is this really your problem or your partner's problem? I'm getting the feeling here that there is a whole vipers nest of boundary issues here and I think everyone should be happy that this kid has a strong enough sense of self to take the space he needs and is entitled to as an adult.

You raise this as though there's actually some kind of question as to whether or not he's entitled to his privacy. There's no question. He is. It's his social networking space. So isn't the question really why you guys are still so enmeshed in his life? My guess is if you all backed off, understood the message he's sending you, and respected it, you'd probably start hearing more from him than you do now.
Do you really want to know that much about your son's personal life during college? Not a lot has changed in terms what young people in college tend to do on the weekends, despite technological revolutions over the last 30 years. While seeing pictures of your son chugging Jagermeister while surrounded by scantily clad women is, indeed, awesome, it's best that you don't know about it.
Dear Carl Hannah,

Yours is definitively the last word.

Amen.
My first question would be, is he ok? Have you seen his site? What does he talk about? Why he is so concerned about his privacy that he would cut off his whole family? You may think this is intrusive but I would check it out. He might have something seriously wrong him, like depression.
It will take time, but in the long run, you'll get over being de-friended by your son! After all, he got his life, you got yours! Sometimes it's good to have a separate life from relatives! That's not hating on family, that's just refusing to over-rely on relatives for a social life!

I don't even bother looking for relatives on myspace/facebook, though one cousin (who I hardly ever see) did friend me! I let her in!
He has now wanted to re-friend me but I am declining. I get his point and respect his privacy-besides that, I like mine too!
Document this, and remind him in about 25 years when it's his turn to be "the parent" of a young adult. When I had kids, the first time I was talking to my mother about how my kid had embarrassed me in public by announcing at the top of his voice in Target that "that man is bald!" She laughed and thanked my three-year-old for giving me payback for all the blushes three-year-old me inflicted upon her.

Payback, a dish best served ice cold.
That is the ultimate "diss!!"
farmer girly...old is as old is seen...this whole facebook thingy is becoming sincerely ridICulous!...just make sure that you are in contact in other ways, more meaningful ways, yah? loving holidays to you.
sorry, I'm like Ash, I laughed, even knowing how badly that would sting. It's part of the whole process of growing up though.
Trying to come up with something more tangible to explain what I mean...
Ok, my dad rags on me constantly about how much time I spend playing facebook games now that I'm on there. Now, I'm almost 40 years old, don't exactly need a talking to about how I choose to spend my free time...I wouldn't unfriend him though, because I AM almost 40 yo (and a girl besides) and know how badly that would hurt his feelings. But still...doesn't mean I don't feel that flash of irritation at him being him. I tell him, so just hide me if you don't want to see all my crap come up on your feed. Grumble, grumble....
isn't this the same dance that every family does?
I'm glad to see him griping at me if I'm honest with myself, it reminds me of living at home and being young. I will miss his grumbles when he's gone. Your son will too- just not for a few years.