SEPTEMBER 28, 2012 5:40PM

Acceptance Goes Both Ways

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From the pages of Salon.com, Tracy Clark Flory bemoans the “holier than thou” attitude the BDSM community has toward non-members. Her piece “What’s Wrong With Vanilla” makes a few valid points, yet it dismisses the very real stigma the general public has against those who are in alternative relationships and sex practices.

People lose jobs for being outed and even some cases children are taken away for parents engaging in these practices That is wrong. No one can be sex positive and support this discrimination. I'm very pro sex and am fed up of politics getting involved in the private actions of consenting adults. Vanilla, Kink and every mix in between, I want everyone to have whatever kind of sex life they want, free from judgment from anyone, even the State.

I have never seen the snobbery that Flory is eluding too, in the circles I’m a part of.(Most have a strong etiquette and little tolerance for nastiness) Does it exist? It wouldn’t shock me, there is one upmanship in every aspect of life. I think the author of the Salon piece is mistaking frustration with pretentiousness. Has she researched how the media and society treat BDSM in general? Its not pretty or even accurate. Everything from people thinking S&M is something to be cured to radical feminists saying that women couldn’t possibly consent to submission. Crimes shows always show it as “deviant” Then you have Dr Drew and anti porn warrior Gail Dines screaming about abuse. Don't forget the ever popular "People in kink have childhood issues and trauma"  From my perception, people in the lifestyle are tired of being hit with stereotypes and ignorant assumptions.

Time to put these over used cliches to bed.

I give Flory credit for starting the conversation, and I agree with her conclusion that being sex positive isn’t about what you are willing to do, but rather what you are willing to defend.

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Remember the days when homosexuality was diagnosed as a mental illness? Jeez Louise, when are the people of this country going to grow up?
Exactly, Lady Miko! Thank you for speaking up for freedom of sex for all of us. What are we SO afraid of? S&M sex is wonderfully intense and liberating. Vanilla, chocolate and nut filled sex is so important in any life. People are wound up tighter than necessary in this world. We all need to get our fantasies out and find out what they are all about. It is not a terrible thing, it is healthy!!!
Zanelle, I agree. Being our true selves, whatever we are, is healthy!
Me thinks of Lady Heather.. CSI generally took a rather mature view (at a glance at least).

Rated for that's our Miko!
Seer: Oh I remember that episode. Hmm, have to go watch it again. lol
Nobody belongs in my bedroom but me. Why do they care?
I am so glad you mentioned this, LadyMiko. Using sex to discriminate and incriminate has always been a heavy weapon of oppression. An obvious example is women. I know it might take eons for all people to see the light and for the culture to reach civility. Meanwhile, as long as there is even a single legislation that tells women what and what not to do with their bodies, women will never be free. Thanks for this, LadyMiko. R
What I've Learned: I have no idea. :)

Thoth: Bingo. I don't care what anyone does sexually, as long as everyone involved is an adult. If you are happy, have at it! Wooo!
“Christians need to be taught the difference between worshiping the redeemer and the God of Abraham, the God of “thou shalt not” as Nietzsche pointed out so eloquently, a God who hangs around with Satan and bets on the outcome of taking everything he ever loved from his most loyal servant (see Job), a God who once asked his priests to sacrifice their children to him (see Abraham) . If only he had died when Nietzsche gave him his eulogy. If you want anything done right you have to do it yourself.
It remains something of a mystery why some people continue to be so obsessed with controlling other people's sex lives. Why should the proposition "consenting adults should do whatever they please" be contorversial at all? Rated.
I know you are out there somewhere. Come on back and say howdy, will you? J D Smith