AUGUST 20, 2010 12:05AM

I Ask: Am I A Bad Dog Owner Or Did I Meet A Real-Life Internet Troll?

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As some of you may have seen, I tweeted out Tuesday about a random woman berating me for leaving Ratchet dog in the car (this is the unabbreviated version also known as why I needed a blog):

I’m rounding up the kids to head to the car and take E to camp. Ratchet begs to come. I think: It’ll be a quick drop off and maybe we can go on a walk afterwards with N. (my thoughts are deep)

We all pile in, hit every stoplight and arrive late. I leave Ratchet in the car with all four windows down (high of 89 degrees that day. just giving you all the data in which to judge me).

I’m within eyesight the entire time. I’m gone less than five minutes.

Or I would’ve been if old-lady-with-a-chip-on-her-shoulder hadn’t showed up.

Internet troll with an ABC (in the communist state of Virginia liquor stores are state-run) name tag steps into the lobby of the camp: Do you know who owns the white car out there?

While holding my daughter and thinking that I must’ve left the lights on or did such a remarkable parking job that she came in to ask for pointers, I say: Me.

Internet troll (okay I’ll stop calling her that. don’t want to bias you): Your dog’s in the car.

Me: Yes. {I look out the window expecting to see something awful going on with Ratchet. Because I CAN SEE HIM from the lobby.}

Internet troll, I mean, Random woman: It’s illegal to leave him in your car.

Me {confused}: It’s not illegal, ma’am. I was just dropping my son off at camp {gesture about} and I’ve only been gone five minutes.

Random woman {getting angry}: Well, the car can get up to 115 degrees in less than five minutes.

Me: That’s why I left all the windows down, ma’am.

Random woman: Look how hard he’s panting!

Me: He’s a dog. Dogs pant. He pants all the time, ma’am.

Random woman starts to leave and says over her shoulder: Someone should lock YOU in a car.

Me {shocked. which is difficult to do.}: What makes you think you can speak to me that way?

Door slams shut on my sentence and she goes back to work.

A minute later, I walk to my car and she and her fellow worker stare out the window. At me. I sit in the car with it off for another five minutes. The car is still cooler than outside the entire time.

I finally turn on the car and drive past the ABC store.

And wave.

So I ask, should I have my dog poop in her store?

Because she STILL irritates me. And I have to go back to that parking lot at least five more times this month so there is plenty of chances for revenge.

My ideas:

  • I’ve thought about having my dog in the car EVERY SINGLE TIME I’m in that parking lot.
  • I’ve thought about bringing my dog into the ABC store.
  • I’ve thought about punching her in the face.
  • I’ve thought about writing her place of employment.

What have you thought about?

PS. In all seriousness, how long can I leave a dog in the car? What outside temperature precludes it? Google is NOT helpful. Also, I’m open to being wrong in this situation. Although I still maintain that coming into the lobby of my son’s camp and speaking to me like that in front of my daughter stopped being about the welfare of my dog long before she marched out of the building.  But mostly I’d like revenge ideas.

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89 degrees? I'm with the troll.
That's great, but then what should be my cutoff temperature? 85? 80?

PS. For whatever it's worth and as I noted in the post, the car was cooler than the temperature outside. Even after the five minutes in took to drop off my son and speak to the troll.
They say 60 degrees outside is the too-hot to leave the dog in the car cutoff. Can't leave the kids in there, either. Best option would have been to run errands alone and leave the kids and dog at home for a minute, with an adult supervisor (perhaps the internet troll would volunteer? haha)... it's hard, as busy as we get.

Just last week, a K9 officer in Cincinnati killed his partner after leaving him in the car during a quick stop home while on duty. Can you imagine?!

I found this on the internet, it might help: http://www.paw-rescue.org/PAW/PETTIPS/DogTip_HotCars.php
Thanks! That's helpful.
I wish that she had spoken to me about the problem like that. I probably would've said just said: thank you.
And leave my dog at home on those days (like I had been doing prior to this incident -- I just thought that I was being overly protective)
The point is "windows down" and "within eyesight the entire time." Your judgment is therefore upheld in the court of my opinion.
I'd trust you with my two dogs.
As for the troll, to use a football analogy: Personal foul - Unsportsmanlike conduct - troll is disqualified (ejected from the game) No poop need be planted in her store. First and ten, your ball.
Thank you for saying you'd trust me with your two dogs. That is totally a touchdown. Or at least a sweet sideline catch where I remember to step out of bounds with three seconds left so my team can kick the winning field goal. Because dog owners are like that.
And after thinking more about it, I'm pretty sure that what I did would totally stand up. But if I was going to be any longer and out of sight? Probably go with cooler weather. Or less witnesses. (j/k -- don't freak out on my internet troll)
Maybe the ABC lady wasn't as polite or tactful as you might like;but, I'm with her on this one. She did not know the "facts" but was intervening to protect the dog. A simple thanks on your part could have ended this.
@grif I totally see that she had good intentions at first. but once she knew the facts, she got rude instead of acknowledging the dog was okay and/or backing off.
to be honest, i thought keeping my cool the entire conversation was impressive in and of itself. i'd probably have to be levitating to say thank you when someone ends a conversation like she did.
The windows were down? Five minutes? Within eye sight?

Yeah, I'm thinking this had nothing to do with her being concerned about your dog.

Personally, I'm all for you taking Ratchet into the lobby next time and let nature take its course.

I say you have nothing to be ashamed of!
@kit yes, yes, yes.
And thank you.
Although I'm not sure that I can get Ratchet to poop on command, he's a boy so he wouldn't mind marking the troll's territory.
There are some people in this world who get high on themselves when they get to be rude to other people and act all high and mighty at the same time. They rarely realize that by being an a** towards someone, they rarely achieve any positive purpose or result. It sounds like she is overly sensitive and got upset over all sorts of atrocities she attributed to you based on how she interpreted what she saw before she ever spoke to you.

In this kind of circumstance, no one comes out ahead, and people walk away fuming instead. Unfortunately, these sorts of people are all over the place these days, and you can't avoid them. Doesn't mean anyone was right or wrong. If the message comes through badly or poorly, mission was not accomplished.
PS - just another thought - I don't think rudeness ever merits an apology.
@duane This situation has definitely given me food for thought. I've realize that I could pay more attention to my attitude around issues that I feel passionate about. Am I being kind while still getting more point across? Am I making assumptions? Am I listening?
I may be a bit late in commenting here but thought I would chime in anyway.

First, let me state that I am an animal lover - I have always had animals in my life, and even when I couldn't have them in my home, I volunteered at a shelter to get my furry fix. My current pack of 2 cats and a dog, all rescues, are loved immensely and spoiled though not rotten (I swear!). They are all fed high-end kibble, get plenty of play, walks, toys, etc and receive the finest of veterinary care in our area.

My dog goes just about everywhere with us and sometimes has to remain in the vehicle. Yes, even on hot days and many times for more than 5 minutes and usually not within eyesight either. Our vehicle has darkly-tinted windows, there is a sun visor placed on the windshield, the windows are left open and it is parked to maximize any available shade. It remains cooler in there than it is outside in direct sun because, and this is the important part, the windows are open and not just cracked. I have another friend that takes her 2 Newfies everywhere and does the same thing except she adds a block of ice in a bin on the floor so they have something to drink and keep them cool.

For the record, I have sat in my driveway under these same conditions (minus the shade) for long periods of time and I KNOW it doesn't get too hot in there.

I have been expecting that troll to visit me for some time now. My only worry is that she will actually try to take my dog since the windows are open and the locks accesible. I have thought about putting a thermometer in there just to prove my point.

Just like with anything else in life, there are no cut and dry answers. Know your situation and act accordingly.