Laurel, not Lauren

Laurel, not Lauren
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JANUARY 8, 2009 9:57AM

The evolution of a romance, as told in underwear

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Lately things in my women’s book group have been getting out of hand.  I think it all started when we made the switch from herbal tea to sauvignon blanc; a solitary vowel, after all, is the only thing standing between a literary “salon” and a literary “saloon.” Then cannabis entered the picture, albeit in a bass-ackward way (word of warning:  don’t stand next to an open wood stove wearing hemp yoga pants, especially if the fire is lit), and it’s been more or less downhill ever since.  Take our last meeting, for instance, when we were supposed to be conducting a thoughtful analysis of The Kite Runner (as a matter of principle, we read only books of deep social significance, preferably set in countries where the yak is still the primary mode of transportation). We’d barely made a dent in the Questions for Discussion when the conversation took an abrupt swerve to the left and before you could say Oprah Winfrey, we were stripping off our clothes to see who had the most married-looking underwear.

Sad to say, I won by a landslide. I really hate to admit this because there are guys here at OS I flirt with on a regular basis who will probably never give me the time of day again.  (Hopefully they’ve written this off as a “chick post” and are elsewhere boning up on stump removal or motorcycle maintenance).  But the truth must be told.  Back when my husband and I were young and we lived in the city, I bought my undergarments at Nordstrom’s; but since we’ve relocated to the sticks, I’ve been getting them in the lingerie department of a feed barn, one aisle over from harnesses and feed bags.  Heck, youYou could probably just fill my underwear with some nice alfalfa pellets, tack on a strap, and a horse wouldn’t know the difference.

How it came to this, I’m not sure.  You know that story about how a frog will leap out of a pot of boiling water, but poach itself to death if you turn the heat up just a little at a time?  So it is with me and my underwear.  I didn’t go from dainty little silk nothings to the oversized industrial model overnight; it’s been a slow and steady creep over the years, like the minute but relentless shift in the tectonic plates beneath the very ground I walk upon in my sturdy feed barn unmentionables.

Hey, speaking of geology, I now invite you to accompany me on a brief archaeological expedition through the various strata of my underwear bin.  While the dig is underway, I will be tossing out items that are no longer of use, in an effort to get started on my (2003) New Year’s resolution to organize my closet. 

The first thing we’ll do is turn the bin upside down, so that the oldest specimens are now on top.  Okay, here goes:

Sedimentary Layer One:  Carbon dating indicates that the objects found here go back to the early Reagan era and are typical of artifacts used by females engaged in illicit office romance at that time in history. 

Layer Two:  From items identified here, one might infer there were a few visits to the sorts of establishments that also stock stud collars and inflatable sheep.  The couple has clearly been having some fun.

Layer Three:  Evidence of extensive damage caused by chewing indicates either some curious peccadilloes or, alternatively, the acquisition of a puppy.

Layer Four:  Abrupt change marking possible seismic event, such as marriage.  Increased emphasis on practicality. Several items with built-in shoulder pads establish mid to late 1980s time frame.

Layer Five:  Satin, lace, and bikini style items no longer present in strata.  Continued evidence of shredding by sharp incisors, presumably canine in origin.

Layer Six:  Still some indication of pride in appearance, but nothing here that won’t stand up to Clorox and a hot water cycle.

Layer Seven:  Objects here appear to be dependable, well broken-in and definitely good for the long haul…much like a marriage that is closing in on its Silver Anniversary.  Nothing that will make the cover of Victoria’s Secret, perhaps, but these, quite obviously, are keepers.       

Some final food for thought:  If Monica Lewinsky had flashed the elastic waistband from a pair of giant-sized Fruit of the Looms at Bill Clinton, instead of that infamous thong strap, scandal might well have been averted, and at this very moment Al Gore could be finishing up his second term and The Decider might be exercising his considerable management skills in the relatively harmless arena of major league baseball. Who would have suspected that the evil genius behind the thong would one day be the lingerie equivalent of J. Robert Oppenheimer or Edward Teller?  Applying sandal design principles to underwear turns out to be nearly as dangerous as splitting atoms.

Okay, dig completed, and now I’ve got a bag full of discards.  Hmmmm…wonder if you can hold up a sagging gutter with a garter belt…

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It's hard to buy nice underwear when the only one who's really going to appreciate it is the puppy.
OMG Laurel,
Where in the world do you come up with this stuff? Laughed from one end to the other. I especially liked the historical reference to the Bush legacy. I must admit that chewing on panties has caused me some grief in the past, but never to the degree of world collapse.

And yes, a garter can hold up a sagging gutter as well as your under thingies. You just have to wrap them twice.
let me try again ~

LnL ... YOU ARE PRICELESS!!! Only you could tie several areas of studied science, underwear, and feed stores together!!! Be proud of your panties :) and no, I don't think the garter belt will work ... but it would probably look very cute.
So cleverly done and so true! Oh to have a life that required fancy undergarments (sigh).
Michael, will you still flirt with me now that you know the truth?
OMG - your archaeology dig is fabulous. But you don't have a bag full of discards. You have a bag full of dog toys. This sad but hilarious tale brought back a memory of my avatar running around the front lawn with a pair of black pantyhose streaming from her mouth.

I still want to know what kind of lingerie, exactly, your hardware store is selling because I'm still thinking denim.
Haha! I was just noticing last night that I need to clean out THE DRAWER. I think I have my inspiration now...
DOG TOYS! Mumbletypeg, you are a genius! Wonder if this has marketing possibilities...
Adorable post! Funny and oh, so true. (You and Lisa Kern have really covered this topic brilliantly, each with your own take.)

As a solo it's even more confusing. Awful old stuff for around the house with the cat and red lace for when you may (ever more rarely) get lucky. If I went far enough back I'd have crinolines and girdles and real garter belts, not sexy ones. I wore a girdle, like everyone else, when I was as skinny as a rail. Now when I could use one I wouldn't even go near Spanx. Freedom. Now.
Stump removal? Motorcycle maintenance? Hell, no. I'm off to find a woman's book club to crash.
Rated and laughed over.

For an author of fantasy fiction of the alternative history sort, there's a wonderful story in the Lewinsky anecdote above, just waiting to be writtem
Aaaaaaarrggghhhhh...GUYS are dropping by! And I had such a great thing going with Jimmymac...

note to IM: thank you, and more to the point, thank Wikipedia!
THIS is by far the funniest (and most cleverly written) piece of writing I have read this week! HOWLING! I demand this become an EP. I will e-mail this to everyone I know (or even don't). I want you as my ghostwriter about my underwear. At least, I will attract flirtation if nothing else. Jimmy Mac's comment had me howling as well. PLEASE e-mail EVERY time you write. I need stuff like this on an IV drip. I guess I'll rate this too, while I'm at it. ;)
Oh my gosh - you are so funny...and talented! I can't believe how you wove the geology into the mix and even tossed in a Bush dig. I agree with Mumbletypeg: you must tell us, or post a photo, of the kind of underwear you can get at a feed barn. I'm picturing burlap.
I never really blamed the thong for our current political nightmare, but that makes as much sense as anything else!
LOVED this. Our last family trip to the mall had my husband taking the toddler on the escalators and elevators while mommy went to Victoria's Secret to purchase some things probably appropriate for Layer One. My new years resolution is to trade in most of my Old Faithfuls for something more.....inspiring.
LMAO at this. I have never been able to figure out the appeal of the thong, and I don't care what the fellas say--I will not be flossing my ass for their amusement. Besides, you know what happens when you wear a thong in 90 degree weather with 90 percent humidity? Pools of crack sweat. Oh yes, I see these every August on silly, silly girls on Bourbon St. I'll take pantylines, thank you very much.

I was thrilled last night to buy some new underwear from the 75% off Christmas clearance section at Wal-Mart. Sure, they're granny panties with dorky pictures of snowmen on them, but they're cotton, comfortable, and 66 cents a pair! (I shudder to think of what underwear I'll wear AFTER I'm married.)
Ha! Moving up. Yes - what cartouche said. EP!!!
You wear underwear?

[looking around as room falls silent]

Oh, harrumph blahbiddy blah, what? Did I say something?

Seriously, though, this is a masterful piece of writing and I snurfled gaily through the entire delicacy. And as somebody whose endowments have always precluded shopping at Victoria's Secret (their things are built for show, not function, and they don't come in my size), I truly appreciate this piece.

NN2R
I'm waiting...hellooooo editors......is this thing on????? Should I type
m......o.....r.....e s......l.....o...w....l.....y? Yeesh!
Laurel,
I will continue to flirt, whether you send me a priceless relic or not.
Oh how I enjoyed this expedition! Loved, loved the description of the feed barn lingerie. And I must say your phrase "..nothing here that won’t stand up to Clorox and a hot water cycle." pretty much could be applied not just to my underwear, but my entire wardrobe, sad to say. Will add I am both philosophically and physically opposed to the thong panty you so well described, so the Bill Clinton's of the world are entirely safe with me. You are fabulous, Laurel - your literary "saloon" is very lucky!
I, too, come from the land of the girdle (remember those awful rubber ones with holes, yes, rubber - fetishistic? not so much) and the garter belt.

When you can mix politics and underwear and the atom bomb - priceless!
This is hysterical and I would like to join your book club. I've never been able to take any of the book clubs I've joined. Way too much seriousness and not enough silliness. And underwear silliness..you guys are the real deal.
Classic, loved and rated!!
I want to join in solidarity with Cartouche to get this on the cover with an EP. Where do I sign and how do we storm the editors office?!
Highly entertaining. It would make a great short film, narrated in the style of A Christmas Story. And I'm sure there are some guys who think it might make a great short film of the sort that is filmed at the No Tell Motel in Oxnard. ;-)

My ex always wore frilly dainties with rosebuds, etc. Later on in our 17 year marriage, she took to buying a new pair every week. This was what tipped me off that she was boinking her massage therapist.
We can lash ourselves to the building and each other using Laurels lady things. I'd pay for the privilege.
Laughing and somewhat chagrined at how our undie drawers are similar. Men? Chime in-- do fancy undies really matter after your 30's?
Okay, I'm tapping my foot impatiently and starting to hear that music from "Jeopardy". Joan, Kerry do you really want me to start getting everyone to e-mail you about THIS piece? I have been known to do some rather naughty things in my lifetime (in case you don't believe me read my 25). Just saying.....
Wow...thanks, guys. This is ALMOST worth the grief I'm catching from my husband for airing our...laundry...
Guess who showed them (as she swaggers her shoulders smugly)?
Congratulations, LNL. You deserve this! I'm two for two today. Hey, maybe they are using me as an editor and I don't even know it. Does this gig pay or what?
This is pure genius. Great writing, and too close to reality for me. THanks goodness you didn't include pictures.

Adding you as a friend. Can't stand the thought of missing anything in the future.
Cartouche,
I will gladly cover your flank in your battle for EP justice. When you say charge, I will make the ultimate sacrifice for the cause, if that is what it takes. But right now I have to pee.
"stock stud collars and inflatable sheep"!! Yeah, I used to have pretties too- now it's mostly baggy cotton except the days I have to wear the all white bottoms and then it's nylon no shows- oh the horror of it. Then again, thinking how much weight I've gained over the years, I'm not sure those lacy things would look all that good anymore either.
Shit, the battle is over? That'll teach me about battle control.

Hail to Cartouche!!!
note to Rod Brock: sudden change in underwear style in the middle of a lengthy relationship....nearly ALWAYS a bad sign.
That's hillarious, Laurel.
He says, rushing out to join a book club.
where do those of us with lingerie fetishes sign up for the flirting list?
Oh man, Very funny. You got me good. Picture this... with only one good arm in service re rotator cuff surgery, I purchased a supply of utilitarian bras and panties one size larger, thus easier to pull up and down. (Fruit of the Looms, in fact). Perky colors, though. Husband finds them quaint and oddly arousing. Go figure.
wait a minute...wasn't there something about Elvis wanting Priscilla to wear giant white underwear...?
I'm not surprised the thong brought about the near collapse of our democracy, because I have often thought the thong was evil. If you don't want a panty line . . . don't wear panties.

Come on, tell: burlap or denim? We all want to know what feedstore lingerie looks like!
Yay! I totally get this post and you are freakin' hilarious. I want to joing the reading club! I know just what you mean about the clorox too! Poor Sweet Husband. All those 80s panties buried under the grannies.
ROTFLMAO Laurel, what a hilarious article - and so true!

Now my ex wife, even before we were married, wore underwear that sounds remarkably like you wear today. I think it just went downhill from there... my grandmother would have been proud...

My girlfriend however (very serious relationship), comes from England, and a lot of things aren't quite as prudish as they are here in the USA, so even though she turned 50 last year, her current underwear is a little but risque even for Victoria's Secret. All of which is good for me of course, but I wonder how many other women lose their interest in dressing special once married life sets in.
The cure for that poddys, is to stay single! ;) Look at you LNL all over the cover. I feel like a proud mama (without the husband, baby or stretch marks and good underwear still in tact).
My wife could have written this. Very funny.
Yay! The editors found this and put it on the cover where it should be!
Herbal Tea to Sauvignon Blanc is always the blame! Damn herbal tea lovers! :-D

Sublime!
Rated!
G/Lester
Archaeology at it's finest!
Completely funny. And I love the vividness of your writing.
Who are you and why have you been in my underwear drawer!?

If I attempted such an excavation, I am certain that I would find priceless Egyptian pottery and Piltdown Man's grandfather.

(thumbified for amusement and hilarity)
Um, poddys, the longer you're married, the sexier your undies should become. Not all the time, but it adds quite a zing when Naughty Nola (or, okay, Saucy Sally) shows up out of nowhere...
Uh-oh! My blog has gone rogue. Turning into some kind of sex talk chat room.
Let us not forget Mr. Bill took a deduction on his underwear on his tax return. $5 apiece as I recall. Probably had to ditch 'em after Monica.
I'm sorry...a bit confused: you had shoulderpads in your underwear? The 80's were a weird time.
Just 3 weeks ago, I finally organized my underwear drawer with some drawer organizers I bought A YEAR AGO at Ikea. I had a similar experience, but you have written about it perfectly!
rated
I can relate. I buy my 'married woman' underwear at Costco, but now they don't carry the kind with waist hight ones anymore. I need new ones, because the last trip I took, someone in charge of airport baggage swiped all my underwear. I'm sure they were disappointed when they looked inside and found out it wasn't Victoria's Secret
hee hee

I just did this ruthless, ruthless underwear drawer throwaway. I found a lot of interesting things in there from 1993 or so. Lots of garter belts. Some extremely tiny underwear that looked very uncomfortable. And a lot of black hose. What was going on?!? I don't remember being that exciting.

Now, I rejoice in the presence of Fruit of the Loom. So comfortable, those underwear.
bwahahahahhahaaaaa...must....start...breathing....again....bwahahahhaaaaaa
Laurel - this was just the best laugh I've had in a long time! Brilliant humor - and a pleasant relief from all the angst floating about.

hmmm ..........there is no stratification in my underwear - even after 11 years of marriage - I'd rather wear nothing than not sexy.

Save yourself! - go Google "Wicked Weasel" - it's a small company in Australia that hubby found some years back. Wonderful stuff - and they also make swimsuits that you can hold in one fist that wouldn't be legal to wear on any U.S. beach.

Besides - thongs are much more comfortable than briefs.
'boning up on stump removal'....heh

"before you could say Oprah Winfrey, we were stripping off our clothes to see who had the most married-looking underwear. "


who knew you were this goddamn funny?! loved this post. I live in SF and will happily ship you a cool pair of undies once per month! really! lingerie is life.
Ha! I grinned and laughed through this whole thing. And, for the record, just bought some new cotton jockeys yesterday.
I didn't know underwear could be so funny. Thanks for the laugh!
Damn, I had to check and see where you were from because I want to join a book club but the last offer I got was from a ditzy, man-hungry recent college grad whose roommates wanted to start off a book club by reading the Kama Sutra. Very far cry from Jim Harrison. Sheesh.

A few notes on undies. My husband seems to have a minor fetish for white cotton undies. Just plain, no embellishment. I, however, must offer what may be the only defense of the thong on here. I hesitate to go into too much detail but I must say that the particular humidity situation described in Leeandra Nolting's comment is exactly the reason you SHOULD wear them! They are...um...absorbent.....in exactly the place you would want them to be in the middle of August. It's all practicality baby because I'm beyond caring about panty lines. Laurel, I'm so sorry for getting all graphic on your demure and restrained geological study!!

I think I need to go clean out my drawer right now. Because I own Spongebob undies. And I should not.
I'm late to the party and missed all the flirting, dammit.

Laurel, this was wicked funny. I'm surprised no one here mentioned the irony of including ladies underwear and Bush in the same post, but I must just be in the gutter still (tilts head to the right, glances out of corner of eye - yup, there's curb there).

Well-deserved EP, and hey - if you twist those old undies up and tie a knot in the middle, the dog will love them even more. Just saying.

Thumbed, tardily but enthusiastically.
The complexity, potential, and depth of knowledge of the female self is amazing. I went thru one shift in underwear type as a male. I went from boxers to boxer briefs when I became an LAPD officer because it made it much easier to answer calls, run down halls, and over walls with my gear. I am a boxer brief devotee to this day.
Fantastic post. (btw, with one tap I just moved your ratings from a 51 to a 55 so I must have some pull here I'm not aware of) My underwear drawer got downright frilly when I met a guy i really, really liked - ruffles and colors and skimpiness of the type where you're constantly shifting in your seat during the day... at any rate - now back to the 3-pack from Duane Reade.
Oh, I want to come! I don't live too far from you!
Brilliant post. All of it---just hilarious.

Yet I think you are pulling our leg.

My motto: sexy or nothing (literally).
m.a. h. -- I wish! I was sort of hoping you were out of town or something. I knew you'd be appalled!
This is delightful! So do I get to join your book club? I know it is not the best manners to promote one's posts here, but truly, "Satire: Inaugural Wedding from 2020: A Modest Proposal..." should stimulate any sassy feminist at least as much as thong underwear does, only in a different part of the anatomy: the frontal lobe.
I too noticed that our reading group was unable to withstand the influence of wine and collapsed. Go back to the herbal tea if you want it to continue! In the meantime, I just bought red panties at Macy's, in case you can make a quarterly excursion into the city.
Clever. Inventive. Funny funny. Only the dog cares about my underwear, too.
I'm late to the dig but I think this is marvelous writing. As #344 commenter I have nothing more to add. How could I? All the best kudo lines are taken. So, what all those above said!

Monte
The whole thing is so brilliantly written, but I have to tell you that my favorite line, doubtless contrary to your intention, was "preferably set in countries where the yak is still the primary mode of transportation." Rated for wit as sharp as that puppy's incisors.
Wonderfully written, Laurel.

And we guys only have old hammers and screwdrivers to reminisce over; doesn’t seem quite as much fun, now that I’ve read about your journey.

My wife and I have been married for 36 years and I guarantee she has clothing somewhere in the house she wore before we were married. After more than a few looks of consternation, I’ve learned not to “suggest” that she give some to Good Will. Now I know why; she’s planning an archeological dig.
Libertarius -- Ha! I lured you over to the Fluff Side of OS, at least momentarily. That alone is worth the price of public embarrassment.
As a gal who's more accustomed to ratings and comments in the low double digits, I certainly have enjoyed all the interest my underwear bin has elicited, even if it has cost me my marriage.

And so, on behalf of my dogs, myself, and Fruit of the Loom girls everywhere, I would like to thank the Academy, my parents, my high school English teacher, Miss Dorian, my computer repair guy, Keith, the helpful staff at Toby's Feed Barn, Monica Lewinsky, former President Bill Clinton, the entire staff of the Manhattan Project, the R&D Department of Victoria's Secret, Inc., Cartouche, for blog pimping...sorry, blog loving, and the editors at OS for their reliably questionable taste.

Now out of these Spanxx (the spotlights here on the Red Carpet are so unforgiving) and back into my granny drawers....ahhhhhh....much better
Late to the game, as usual, but have to comment: This was really funny and awesomely clever! Underwear as historical artifacts - I especially liked Sedimentary Layer One. I still have some of that particular era in my underwear drawer and can't quite bring myself to toss it even though I've worn basic Jockey cotton bikinis for the last 20 years. As for the puppy toys, I used to wear a leotard (sans underwear) plus jeans -- Dittos, even -- this was kind of a look in the late '70's -- and one night I tossed my leotard on the floor only to wake up in the morning and discover that my boyfriend's chocolate lab had chewed, eaten and swallowed the entire crotch. Anyway, thanks for the laugh on a lazy Sunday morning. I think I'll go clean out my underwear drawer.
Very, Very funny! (now I gotta go excavate)