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SEPTEMBER 1, 2009 3:23PM

Why I have a problem with Glenn Beck.

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Look, Mr. Beck--I have very, very strong disagreements with President Obama on a number of issues, but you're talking out your ass here.  I WAS an Americorps volunteer.  I joined Americorps in May 2002, two weeks after graduating college, and left after completing my term of service a year and five days later. 

Americorps partners with local organizations in needy communities.  I served a year in Mount Vernon, Kentucky, teaching preschool for the Christian Appalachian Project, one of many, many organizations Americorps partners with.  The Christian Appalachian Project, CAP for short, is an interdenominational social service organization founded by a Catholic priest, Father Ralph Beiting, in 1957, when he began Cliffview Lodge, a summer camp for disadvantaged boys.  It was incorporated as CAP in 1964. 

In addition to running preschools in some of the poorest areas of the country, CAP provides elderly visitation services, home repair, food pantries, thrift stores, adult education and GED classes, respite care for mentally retarded adults so their families can get a break from caring for them 24/7, teen centers, domestic abuse shelters, medical clinics, and the summer camps for disadvantaged children that started it all. 

CAP volunteers (not all of whom were affiliated with Americorps) served completely voluntary terms ranging from two weeks to one year.  We worked 40-hour workweeks.  Unlike a military enlistment, all of us were free to walk away at any time.  We lived in groups of 6-10 people in houses paid for by donations to CAP, we divided up household chores amongst ourselves, we ate supper together and prayed together four or five nights a week.  We were encouraged to join a local church of our choosing, but this was not in any way required.  The utility and grocery bills for the volunteer houses were paid for with CAP donations—I was the appointed bookkeeper in our house, and back in 2002 we had a food budget of $3 per person, per day.  We each received a spending-money stipend of $125 per month, again paid with CAP donations.  All of our toiletries, clothing, entertainment, cigarettes, personal vehicle expenses (if we had our own cars) or gasoline money for personal trips (if we were using CAP vehicles), etc. had to come from that stipend or else out of our personal money.  Our health insurance was paid either by CAP (if we were NOT affliated with Americorps) or the federal government (if we WERE Americorps volunteers in addition to being CAP volunteers). 

At the end of our service year, Americorps volunteers walked away with a stipend of about $4,700.  If we chose, we could sign on for a second year and get another $4,700 stipend.  This was not directly payable to the volunteer, however…it could only be used to pay back student loans, or to pay for tuition and/or room and board at an accredited school.  You had to use it for educational expenses, or else lose it.  (Since I’d already paid off what little undergrad debt I had, I used my Americorps grant to pay for my first year’s room and board in the dorm at the University of New Orleans. This allowed me to bank most of my paltry graduate assistantship stipend that first year and completely avoid ALL student loans my first year of grad school.)

So more or less, for the cost of a year’s health insurance for a healthy 22-year-old and less than five grand, the taxpayers got a college graduate to teach school full-time for an entire year in one of the most Godforsakenly poor parts of the country (at least one of my students DID NOT HAVE INDOOR PLUMBING IN HIS HOUSE), and I got work experience and the peace of mind that comes from having decent health insurance upon getting out of college and a small financial cushion while beginning graduate school.  It was a win-win situation. 

Americorps is not the Hitler Youth, Mr. Beck.  At its cliquey worst, Americorps and CAP were like an overearnest Girl Scout or church camp jamboree.  There was no indoctrination.  We were not government propagandists sent into low-income communities, unless teaching 3-year-olds to sing the days of the week to the tune of “O My Darling Clementine” and “give a stomp stomp stomp and a clap clap clap, look up, look down, turn yourself around let’s make believe we’re dinosaurs” is sinister brainwashing.

Find something real to run your trap about.

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Glenn Beck is a great example of a dumbass'tard !
Lederhosen? I'm surprised he wasn't wearing jackboots, an SS uniform and an iron cross. (No, forget that last one -- they didn't give iron crosses to cowards that often.)

And thanks for your participation in Americorps. Admirable.

R.
Chuck--That he is.

John--As an American of mostly German heritage who grew up in an area almost entirely populated by Bavarian and Swiss immigrants, I'm also a bit insulted at his denigration of lederhosen.
To paraphrase Barney Frank Leandra, you might as well write this post to your dining room table.

BTW, thanks for serving your country. Serving your country doesn't mean carrying a weapon.
Glenn Beck should be beaten about the head with a big stick.

really.
OE--At least my dining room table doesn't get paid to lie on national TV.
Nofrillsmonkey--I'm not condoning violence here, but why the hell is this guy on national TV instead of the local cable access channel that has the crackhead preacher whose "scripture" is an old phone book?
the more I learn about you, the more impressed I am.

the opposite is true of Comrade Beck.
It does not surprise me that you have a problem with Glenn Beck. It surprises me that you have only one problem with Glenn Beck.
I don't often agree with Bill O'Reilly, but in his defense, he basically told Mr. Beck that he was nuts and that this stunt was insulting to both Americorps volunteers AND Germans.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,535420,00.html
Mrs. Michaels--Oh, this is just one of many.

I don't have a problem with conservatives. I don't have a problem with people I completely disagree with speaking their minds. I DO have a problem with fear-mongering, outright lies about a program I was proud to be a member of, and broadside insults to my ethnic heritage.
What Chuck said.

And thank you for your service to our country.

d
Denese and Brian--Thanks.

I would strongly advise any unemployed kid just out of college to consider serving a term with Americorps. You're out of your parents' house, you get health insurance, you can put your federal student loans on hold during your term of service, you build up work experience, and you can finish with a healthy chunk of change towards paying down your school debt. And unlike the military, you generally don't get shot at.
I object to Glenn Beck in so many ways. I wonder if the Boy and Girl Scouts object to his use if their 3 fingered salute he uses during his rant. Maybe they could sue him.
717Judie--It's been awhile since I was in the Brownies; I'd forgotten about the three-fingered salute that the Boy and Girl Scouts do. But yeah, I'm pretty sure THEY'RE not too happy about this either.

The whole Obama=Hitler analogy is insulting to the millions of people who suffered and died under and gave their lives fighting the Nazi regime.
Robert Kennedy said 20% of the population is always going to hate. Beck's entire audience is made up of that 20 percent. It's free enterprise really. He tells them what they want to hear and he gets paid for it. Doesn't really have anything to do with anything.
@Harry--The wackjobs ye shall always have with you.
I should also point out that, as a condition of their service, Americorps volunteers have to swear to uphold the Constitution and the laws of the United States. Has Mr. Beck ever had to do that?
You have to wonder when they are going to start digging up the bodies from Becks basement.

And I guess he forgot the pledge to the Republican party people had to sign to see Herr Cheney.
Right before this little stunt, Beck has also claimed that only people between the ages of 16 and 24 may be in Americorps, which is completely untrue. Americorps members must be at least 17 years old (18 or 21 to serve in some programs), but there is NO maximum age for Americorps.

I have no idea if 60% of Americorps alumni go into government public service jobs or work for nonprofits after their Americorps terms are up, but even if that's true...so what? Government service jobs and working for nonprofits aren't evil occupations, and I'm betting that the kind of person that would volunteer for Americorps would be the type of person who would go into government public service or work for a nonprofit organization regardless.

There are SOME Americorps programs (the ones where a partner organization does not provide room and board as CAP did) where the volunteer is given a living allowance of between $11,400 and $22,400 per year. Out of that, a volunteer must pay the rent, the utilities, the grocery bill, etc. Americorps will only fund up to $11,400 of that allowance--anything beyond that is at the responsibility and discretion of the partner organization. Americorps volunteers CANNOT receive more than $22,400 a year to live on, even in horrendously expensive cities like New York and San Francisco. To put this in perspective, a person making the federal minimum wage, working a 40-hour week, 50 weeks per year, would make $14,000. So yes, in SOME cases joining Americorps would be more lucrative than taking a minimum-wage job flipping burgers, but no one has yet gotten rich off their Americorps stipends. The only "government benefit" Americorps workers got was decent health insurance--there was no cushy pension or anything like that involved.

Oh, and Americorps members most certainly can be fired and put out of the program, for all the usual reasons one would could be fired from any job.
You go girl! Get 'em! You are SOOOO right! I have had the pleasure of working with Americorp volunteers several times. They have ALWAYS provided a valuable service to the community and the people. I adored all the kids I worked with....
Beck needs to get out of that studio...the lights have caused brain damage.
And I too, want to thank you for serving our country! You did a great thing and absolutely made a difference in those kids lives. With love, I say "BLESS YOUR HEART"
Fab--Thanks for your kind words.

Obama is going to make some secret army out of a quarter-million Americorps volunteers and use that to take over the country? Seriously? Because he's not, you know, commander-in-chief of the real Army, the one with the guns and the tanks and the bombs?
Leandra, thank you for this informative post. Just checked the Americorps website. Their Vista program might just be a win-win opportunity for people who were laid off during the recession and who posess an altruistic streak to give back to the community - while having their healthcare covered.
Something I saw on the internet, re: Americorps and Nazism:

"First they came for the elderly, and I said nothing, because it turned out they were just bringing them groceries and listening to them tell long rambling stories about their childhoods and promising to visit again next week..."
Your post is great. I wish that Beck would read it, but he's an idealogue and he wouldn't care.

This is an outstanding description of what you did for AmeriCorps. RATED
Okay, now I just watched the video. He is so fucking weird.
What Mrs. Michaels said. The guy is outrageously, ridiculously stupid. You should have seen his wimpy giggle when Stephen Colbert made fun of him. He's so awful.
Nelly--It's certainly worth looking into.

Roger--He's a nutter, all right.
@latethink--The first (of thankfully only two) time I had a gun pulled on me, it was in Kentucky. I was supposed to conduct a "home visit"--basically a parent-teacher conference at the child's home. I had directions to one boy's house that involved several "turn off the paved road..." steps. Anyway, I was way the hell up in one of the hollers and I knocked on the door of the wrong house, where the owners were more than likely cooking meth, growing pot, making moonshine, or all three.

The man with the gun asked me what my business was and who I was looking for, and I told him that I was looking for John and Mary Smith, that I was their son's preschool teacher, and that I had a home visit scheduled, but I think I got lost and got the wrong house. He looked at the clipboard and bucket of Legos I was carrying and the broken-down minivan with the cross and rainbow logo on the door that I had driven, and decided that I wasn't a threat, but told me not to come back or tell anyone how to get there. I said that wouldn't be a problem, because I didn't remember how I got there in the first place. So he let me go on my merry way.

I really would like to see Mr. Beck handle a similar situation.
I was in Americorps in 2002-2003--did that make me a part of the Bush Youth?

I'm racking my brain to come up with any sort of paramilitary thing we did in CAP/Americorps, and the closest I can come up with is that we drank from camoflauge plastic canteens a lot. CAP got a HUGE corporate donation from Welch's of slightly-expired "G.I. Joe" brand juice drink. We had cases and cases and cases of that stuff. The "Commando Cherry" flavor had fermented, and a bunch of us used it to get really drunk and sing "Kumbaya" around a campfire out in the woods one night.
From now on, anytime I hear the name "Glenn Beck," I will recall the image of him in this video. Of course, from viewing said video, I'll also likely need years of therapy in order to lead a normal life. Thanks for calling out his assholishness, Leeandra.
Leeandra, you were so brave and now you are being put in the position of having to defend your service because of this lunatic and people like him. It boggles the mind. And as for what Glenn Beck would have done: 1. Poop his pants. 2. Call his mommy, just like GWB did when he got drafted.
Leeandra,

First, I want to applaud your service to Americorps. I find this immensely admirable and hold Americorps in the highest regard.

Second, though you've done irrepairble damage to my brain for showing the Beck in Lederhosen video, I appreciate that you are calling out that a--wipe. Somewhere, a couple of drunken gnats are blaming each other for having mated and produced Mr. Beck. It's the only logical explanation for his existence.
Latethink--Glenn Beck is prone to fits of televised weeping when he thinks about an America in which people aren't armed to the teeth. I'd really like to see what his reaction would be if he found himself lost in the woods with a shotgun pointed at him. Put up or shut up, Becky-Boy.

Lisa--I apologize for subjecting you to Beck in lederhosen.

Renaissance Lady--I often wonder what Beck's parents think of him.
I don't have any problem at all with Glenn Beck ... since I don't watch him. Frankly, when people first started to talk to me about him, I had him mixed up with Jeff Beck and I was thinking, "Oh, so there's another conservative musician besides Ted Nugent..."
I guess I've spent waaay to much time in the 19th century.
Sgt. Mom--Unfortunately, a lot of people from my hometown do watch Mr. Beck's show, and take his word as gospel. I try to ignore him, but I do tend to get a little miffed when he insinuates that Americorps members are Nazis in training.
Brava, Leeandra!!!

Will he hear you? No.

Does it make me feel better? You betcha!

I'm going to look further into this Americorps thingie - since it's gotten dangerous some places, I'm thinkin we'll stay "home" next summer - are "children" allowed to serve? I.E., families together?
Connie--Americorps volunteers must be at least 17. CAP required all summer camp volunteers (regardless of Americorps affliation or no) to be at least 18, and year-long volunteers to be at least 21.

There are, however, a lot of charities that would probably welcome the labor of younger kids, provided that they were old enough to actually help and not get in the way. I had a 30-hour community service requirement for my Confirmation when I was 13 or 14, and I got put to work stocking shelves in a local food pantry. My brother who was 11 or 12 at the time worked alongside me as part of a Columbian Squires (the boys' branch of the Knights of Columbus) requirement.
Exquisitely done, Leeandra! Good on you. Glen Beck is not only an ass, but he is an influential one with our Neanderthal cousins. It is both sad and scary.

Monte
Thanks, Monte. I try to ignore the assholes, but at some point I do get incredibly pissed off at their flat-out lying and then hiding under the cover of free speech.
If losing 57 sponsors for his idiocy doesn't get him off of the air, what then, will? FAUXnews is the worst thing, really, that has ever happened to this country.