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Leeandra Nolting

Leeandra Nolting
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Proud native Hoosier who’s settled permanently in New Orleans. Teach English. Live in an old whorehouse with three very talkative and sexually-confused birds and one very talkative bird that isn’t sexually confused at all but just wants what s/he wants, which is pretty much everything and everybody. They appear quite frequently in my writing. Former bedpan wrangler, radio announcer, preschool teacher, and freshman comp. instructor. Once accidentally picked out A Clockwork Orange for a make-out movie. Have a very rational appreciation for the works of Flannery O’Connor and the television show The X-Files and an irrational fear of Meg Ryan. All my friends are drunks.

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DECEMBER 18, 2011 9:44PM

Seven Things I'm Supposed to Like But Don't

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In response to Beth Mann and Alysa Salzberg's open calls:

1.  Poetry.  This is going to surprise a whole hell of a lot of people, considering I have an M.F.A. in writing the damn stuff.  I can dash off sonnets and triolets and terza rima.  But let's face it: most poetry, my own or others', is utter crap.

2.  Tennessee Williams' heroines.  Yes, I live in New Orleans.  Yes, I like "A Streetcar Named Desire" (though I feel his personal best is "Night of the Iguana").  But the man wrote three types of women:  maiden, mother, and drag queen.  While I'm sure his roles are fun for actresses to play, they aren't so much female characters as female caricatures.  Which brings me to:

3.  Drag shows.  I've got nothing against the LGBTQ community.  As long as you're all consenting adults and you aren't destroying any happy homes and you're taking appropriate disease precautions, I don't care who you're sleeping with.  I care even less about how you dress either in private or public.  Maybe I've just gotten jaded from living in the French Quarter, but it seems to me that drag shows are utterly predictable--let's put a man in an evening gown and have him play a histronic diva.  Aside from the fact that we've seen this all before, there is of course the minstrel-show aspect--men, straight or gay, and women straight or gay, and all the people of either sex who fall somewhere in between or elsewhere, can't be so easily pigeonholed.  Somehow, though, it's acceptable to overplay all the negative stereotypes of women--self-centered, overly emotional, catty--for laughs.  Yeah, not a fan.

4.  Lost in Translation.  I'm supposed to love this movie.  Not only are Bill Murray and Scarlett Johannsen excellent in it, it's like Roman Holiday for horrible cranky people who were born pessimistic and cynical and unsatisfied.  But I don't.

5.  David Duchovny.  I'm not speaking of his skills as a thespian (which, other than playing Agent Mulder, seem to be near-nonexistent) or his decency as a human being (which I file under Things That Are His Wife's Business).  I'm talking as a sex symbol.  The X-Files premiered when I was 13 and went off the air when I was 22.  I watched that show for an hour a week throughout my entire adolescence.  If he didn't do it for me back when I had far more hormones racing through my bloodstream than I knew what to do with, he's not likely to start doing it for me now.  (Also, he might be verging on being a candidate for the anti-Dick Clark club, i.e. male actors who age faster than thought scientifically possible.  Other members:  Al Pacino, Marlon Brando, and Albert Finney.)

6.  Beer.  Yes, I'm German.  Yes, I pretended to like this in college.  But I didn't and I don't.

7.  Raw oysters.  Again, yes, I live in New Orleans.  Yes, I love living in New Orleans.  Yes, I love most of the Louisiana cuisine.  Yes, I love FRIED oysters.  Yes, I know what they say about oysters on the half-shell...and it's complete bullshit.  I don't know about y'all, but nothing gets me out of the mood faster than wanting to hurl because those are just plain disgusting. 

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Agree with all of these. But poetry when it's well done, is absolutely stellar.
hmm we're gonna have to talk on two of these, but I agree on five.
Well, I happen to love Lost in Translation, and I'm drinking a beer as I write this, but I'm with you on all the others. (Duchovny's appeal is lost on me, as is Tennessee Williams' genius.)
I think LIT spoke to me of the yearning because I look old and wrinkled as Murray and wondered about Paradise Lost so rapidly in my own life. There were other similarities (p.t.). I also think Sofia mirrors her father's talent to painful poignancy, a cousin to yearning, and a convoluted connection to your adopted home in that Natassja Kinski was in that NOLA version of Cat People but also in the Francis F Coppola One From The Heart that added to my sense of sehnsucht...LIT funneled all that and added Sophia's amazing music choices...that it remains one of my favorites.

And I can only eat raw oysters when drunk and money is riding on it.
I'm pretty much with you here. Although a cold beer's hard to pass up and I like that song about David Duchovny (but that probably doesn't count).
But let's face it: most poetry, my own or others', is utter crap.

Miss N, I think I love you. Truer words were never wrote.
I'm certainly with you on poetry and drag shows Leeandra. On the former, I think there's some gene I lack, except when it's set to music and I can rhapsodize over Dylan or Cohen.

One thing that's worse than drag shows are the amateur variety. When I worked in the corporate world they were a feature at the company's big Christmas bash. Some guy would put on a bad wig and dress, under which there'd be a couple of beach ball sized falsies. It invariably brought the house down. I stopped going after the first.

We're in opposite camps when it comes to beer and raw oysters.
Interesting mix. I found Mulder sexy, but Duchovny less appealing all around. I don't think raw oysters are an acquired taste, I think you either like it the first time or you don't. Why would you try them twice?
Not even microbrews? I couldn't stand beer for years, until I had my first amber ale at a microbrewery. Heaven.
Now I want fried oysters.
Poetry has always intimidated me. Yet, like Kubrick's apes with the monolith in 2001: A Space Odyssey, I find myself sneaking up to it, touching it wondrously, backing away, examining my fingers and sneaking up to it again. There's something about it, especially when poets let everyone else know they're hip to something esoteric.

Mendacity!!! The only time I visited New Orleans, in 1976, I asked a couple of apparent locals on Bourbon Street if they knew where Williams had lived. Their response: "Tennessee who?" I was too young when I saw "Cat" to understand why Newman and Taylor never got things going, I read "Iguana" but don't recall seeing the movie - Burton and Taylor, right? Maybe I was afraid there'd be mendacity in that one, too.

I agree with you on drag shows and David Duchovny, who reminded me of science teacher I had in junior high. Damned near stabbed myself with a dissecting knife falling asleep over my frog cadavre. If it hadn't been for Scully, I'd have skipped X-Files altogether.

I liked Lost in Translation, but that was before I learned I was supposed to like it.

Beer, yes; oysters, fried in fritter batter. I've done the snot-with-hot-sauce-swallowing gig but only to prove my manliness. And nobody gave a shit.
Send me your tired, your poor, your huddled oysters, yearning to be eaten. And the beer to wash them down with.
I'm 6 for 7. Do like raw oysters. LIT is really hard to like because it is a movie about someone who needs to go to sleep. Painful to watch.
Sooo, there's a song about David Duchovny? I learn so much by checking in at OS. Coinsidentally, I had a dream last night in which David Duchovny starred as a famous actor featured in an acting workshop in Springfield Missouri in which I took part. I brought him some wild shitake mushrooms before his class session. Must have gotten him mixed up with Brad Pitt, who is definitely a heart throb and better actor. I admit that I did fall for Mulder, much the same as I did for Spock, but Duchovny, not so much.

Oysters, nope. Beer, not regularly. Poetry? A lot is crap, and that that is not and chosen by those who know, I don't get. But sometimes I totally get it, and it shines a light and casts a shadow on a feeling or idea in a way that I've never seen it before. Overall, I like it. Even my own sometimes. Drag queens...no opinion. Tennessee Williams heroines? I sort of like some of his plays.

"Lost in Translation" was wonderful for me because I went to see it with my daughter Cassie who spoke Japanese and translated the Japanese for me as they spoke. It was the equivalent of hearing the jokes and craziness from both sides of the globe's mouth. What the Japanese characters were saying was funnier than what an aging Bill Murray said, but also made his lines twice as funny because they totally missed the Japanese point.

So, I'm with you mostly. BTW, excellent job!
I don't hate Lost in Translation. I'm just sort of ehh about it. Admitting this in certain circles though is like saying you don't like money or sunshine or sex or puppies.