NOVEMBER 14, 2012 8:10PM

Petraeus Affair as al-Qaeda-Linked CIA Cover-Up

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It is tempting to focus on the bizarre and titillating details of what Pepe Escobar calls a “bedroom farce” or Arthur Silber calls a “cheap slut scenario” given as the explanation for CIA Director General Petraeus’ resignation last week.

I am sure I am not the only citizen who feels “played” once again by a craven administration and corporate media. The sirens of cognitive dissonance are blaring, not only with the timing of the resignation, so close after the election and a week before Petraeus was to give testimony in Congress over the details of the Benghazi attack in Libya.

The “morals” issue for Petraeus to resign over -- marital infidelity which is NOT illegal -- is surreal when there has been such a staggering degree of WAR CRIMINALITY denied or minimized by the U.S. administration, corporate media and a substantial segment of the citizenry.

This is how Glenn Greenwald puts it:

... it is truly remarkable what ends people's careers in Washington - and what does not end them. As Hastings detailed in that interview, Petraeus has left a string of failures and even scandals behind him: a disastrous Iraqi training program, a worsening of the war in Afghanistan since he ran it, the attempt to convert the CIA into principally a para-military force, the series of misleading statements about the Benghazi attack and the revealed large CIA presence in Libya. To that one could add the constant killing of innocent people in the Muslim world without a whiff of due process, transparency or oversight.

Yet none of those issues provokes the slightest concern from our intrepid press corps. His career and reputation could never be damaged, let alone ended, by any of that. Instead, it takes a sex scandal - a revelation that he had carried on a perfectly legal extramarital affair - to force him from power. That is the warped world of Washington. Of all the heinous things the CIA does, the only one that seems to attract the notice or concern of our media is a banal sex scandal.

Listening to media coverage, one would think an extramarital affair is the worst thing the CIA ever did, maybe even the only bad thing it ever did ...

Arthur Silber:

It's not the sex. It's never the sex. Remember and understand that, and you will understand a great deal.

Applying these observations to the Petraeus resignation, we can state with absolute certainty that he is not resigning because of an affair. For reasons we will probably never know, he had become an inconvenience or a hindrance in some manner to the administration's plans. As a result, certain parties decided to get rid of him. Keep in mind that most of the players involved here are men, running a sprawling apparatus designed by and for men. In addition, our culture is one dominated by men (specifically privileged white men and those who mold themselves in their image, such as Barack Obama). Therefore, both those who needed an excuse and those who will be expected to believe it are all drowning in a culture dominated by male prerogatives and beliefs.

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Whatever one's view of the Benghazi attack, and whether one considers it to raise serious questions about the administration's conduct of foreign affairs or not (either about Libya in particular and/or more generally), there are indisputably a great many indiscrepancies and confusions arising out of the various stories and explanations that have been offered thus far. Petraeus was in one of the most critical positions with regard to what happened. He almost certainly possesses information that no one else does.

Petraeus was a general. Petraeus was head of the C.I.A. Petraeus is a professional killer. I don't say that like it's a bad thing -- I mean, I think it's a bad thing, but I'm just weird that way -- I just say it because it's a fact. He kills people, or at least orders a whole lot of people to be killed, and guess what: THEY'RE KILLED. So he's a professional killer. Look, it's a living. A guy's gotta make a living.

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.... We're dealing with a bunch of professional killers, who have completely innocent people killed every single goddamned day -- and you're telling me, and you have your savvy, superserious face on, you're telling me that they're going to be totally upset, so upset that, like, they can't even eat, because Petraeus is having an affair?

Stan Goff:

The scandal in the modern sense – doing things that are public outrages – is that Petraeus cheated on his wife.  Fair enough.  He resigned.  Full stop.  Loss of efficacy, and all that.

The more serious scandal might be that he revealed classified information to his confidante; and here is where the contradiction between journalism and the military is most clear.  The security of the nation-state is paramount, more so when that state is already highly militarized.

What we have not heard, which ought to be a scandal, and is not, is that Petraeus may be guilty of war crimes.  He was a commander when crimes were clearly committed:  plunder and failure to protect civilians, torture, and wanton destruction.  These are violations of law; and they did happen on his watch – quite a lot.

But since no one has the power to bring charges except Petraeus’ colleagues and the current government, he will never face those charges.  The decision has been made.  No prosecutions, because the wars themselves have been started and maintained by illegal means.

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We are a technologically-disembodied society without a justifying morality, captured by the economics of war.  We have one civic God – the nation-state called United States of America – and our sacred relics are soldiers and former soldiers.

Barry Grey of wsws:

This bizarre scenario, very possibly involving violations of laws requiring disclosure to Congress of significant intelligence matters, itself strongly suggests unstated political agendas and conflicts. For one thing, all of this was taking place in the run-up to the presidential election and being concealed from the electorate.

Moreover, Petraeus was scheduled to testify this week in closed session before both the House and the Senate intelligence committees on the role of the CIA in connection with the September 11 assault on the US consulate in Benghazi, Libya that resulted in the death of the US ambassador and three other Americans, including two CIA operatives. Both committees now say he will not appear before them this week, although some committee members have suggested he might be called to testify at a later point.

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The events in Benghazi have far-reaching implications, since they involve Washington’s alliance with jihadist forces, including those linked to Al Qaeda, in last year’s war to overthrow Libyan leader Muammar Gaddafi. This alliance continues in the current drive for regime-change in Syria.

The fact, as well, that one of the US ruling class’ chief police-intelligence agencies launched a probe resulting in the downfall of the head of a rival agency suggests that questions of policy as well as “turf” and status were involved.

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This brings us to another important aspect of the Petraeus affair: the perverse political environment in which a fairly commonplace event in marital affairs is treated as something akin to a felony, often becoming the pretext for settling political scores.

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Petraeus is a deeply reactionary figure, but he has not been brought down because of war crimes in Iraq, Afghanistan or elsewhere. Rather, he has been declared unfit because of perhaps the first reported act that indicates he is human.

Pepe Escobar:

Meanwhile, murky does not even begin to describe alleged reality -- as in the director of the Central Intelligence Agency, retired Gen David Petraeus, resigning over a bedroom farce only two days after President Barack Obama is re-elected, amid crossfire accusations raging for weeks regarding what the CIA was exactly doing in Libya, that godforsaken land liberated by the North Atlantic Treaty Organization and now ruled by a bunch of militias.

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As for "my guy," [Petraeus], he has multiple questions to answer. First of all; why did the CIA tell the White House that the Benghazi drama was provoked by that stupid "Prophet Muhammad" YouTube video -- and not an attack coordinated by previously NATO-enabled Salafi-jihadis?

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With US corporate media now totally berserk, the master narrative remains that The Samurai General did the honorable thing by resigning. It all goes back to good ol' American Puritanism. You can be a killing machine, responsible for the death of untold numbers of civilians. But don't you dare betray your devoted wife.

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Iraq and Afghanistan were pure manifestations of "war neoliberalism." Petraeus's "surge" in Iraq was a sham. When he arrived with his suitcases full of cash to convince Sunni guerrillas to fight al-Qaeda in Iraq, and not American soldiers, the real surge was already being accomplished; this was the surge led by the Iraqi Interior Ministry and Muqtada al-Sadr's Mahdi Army, which had practically succeeded in the ethnic cleansing of Baghdad and surrounding areas, reverting the population balance to the benefit of Shi'ites. As for the Sunni guerrillas, at least they could pocket American money while biding their time to continue their fight against a Shi'ite-dominated government in Baghdad.

Obama's foreign policy team certainly thought that Petraeus counterinsurgency mumbo-jumbo would allow Iraq -- and later Afghanistan -- at least some sort of what could be dubbed inter-communitarian democracy, saving American face in terms of a troop exit that would not replicate the last helicopter leaving a Saigon roof in 1975.

But the fact is Petraeus did not win any hearts and minds in either Iraq or Afghanistan; his take, clear, hold and build tactics ultimately led to nowhere in both cases -- and we're not even talking about serious instances of torture, extrajudicial killings, illegal detentions and widespread shadow war. His "mini-surge" could only have had a shot at succeeding in Afghanistan (and that's quite a stretch) if it was not mini; if he had had access to hundreds of thousands of troops -- something politically unacceptable in the US.

Then there's Benghazi. What may have really happened is that the US consulate in Benghazi was a sort of CIA safe house/spy house -- thus under Petraeus responsibility, not the State Dept. This neatly dovetails with "Paula" casually saying, at the University of Denver on October 26, that "prisoners" were being held at the consulate (the CIA vehemently denied it, so there must be a degree of truth to it).

That the consulate was attacked by Salafi-jihadis is out of the question. The State Department may have been the fall guys -- while Petraeus/CIA got away with their incompetence. Well, until the bedroom farce exploded.

It remains to be seen whether anyone in Washington will dare asking the pertinent questions. It remains to be seen whether Petraeus's relentless, hyper-counterproductive (not to mention collateral damage-laden) drone wars will be reevaluated. It remains to be seen whether Obama 2.0 will decide to practice diplomacy -- and not shadow war -- in the intersection between Central and South Asia.

Washingtonsblog:

Whatever the scope of the CIA’s operation in Benghazi – and whatever the real reason for the resignation of the CIA chief – the key is our historical and ongoing foreign policy.

For decades, the U.S. has backed terrorists for geopolitical ends.

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The Wall Street Journal, Telegraph and other sources confirm that the US consulate in Benghazi was mainly being used for a secret CIA operation.

They say that the State Department presence in Benghazi “provided diplomatic cover” for the previously hidden CIA mission. (WND alleges that it was not a real consulate.)

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In March 2011 Stevens became the official U.S. liaison to the al-Qaeda-linked Libyan opposition, working directly with Abdelhakim Belhadj of the Libyan Islamic Fighting Group—a group that has now disbanded, with some fighters reportedly participating in the attack that took Stevens’ life.

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Furthermore, we know that jihadists are the best fighters in the Syrian opposition, but where did they come from?

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And we know that the CIA has been funneling weapons to the rebels in southern Turkey. The question is whether the CIA has been involved in handing out the heavy weapons from Libya.

In other words, ambassador Stevens may have been a key player in deploying Libyan terrorists and arms to fight the Syrian government.

Other sources also claim that the U.S. consulate in Benghazi was mainly being used as a CIA operation to ship fighters and arms to Syria.

Many have speculated that – if normal security measures weren’t taken to protect the Benghazi consulate or to rescue ambassador Stevens – it was  because the CIA was trying to keep an extremely low profile to protect its cover of being a normal State Department operation.

The US administration seems to know only how to lie to us, the citizenry, about its craven foreign policy. Lie upon lie upon lie. That is why Manning and Assange have inspired such vengeful zero-tolerance from Obama and the rest of the U.S. war criminals as well as crony war criminal leaders of other nations.

This is why I believe it was probably Petraeus' Ms. Broadwell disclosing "too much information" at the University of Denver at the end of October that triggered the media's and administration's present sex scandal firestorm cover up.

Matt Williams of rawstory reports:

In an answer to a question reading the CIA chief’s handling of the incident, the biographer said: “Now, I don’t know if a lot of you heard this, but the CIA annex had actually, um, had taken a couple of Libyan militia members prisoner and they think that the attack on the consulate was an effort to try to get these prisoners back. So that’s still being vetted.”

She added: “The challenging thing for General Petraeus is that in his new position, he’s not allowed to communicate with the press. So he’s known all of this – they had correspondence with the CIA station chief in, in Libya. Within 24 hours they kind of knew what was happening.”

The comments were recorded and posted in a YouTube clip which has since been taken down.

On Monday, the CIA was quick to shoot down Broadwell’s claims.

“Any suggestion that the agency is still in the detention business is uninformed and baseless,” agency spokesman Preston Golson said.

One can certainly appreciate that the ready lie of the U.S. administration that the Benghazi attack was inspired by an anti-Muslim youtube, the idea that the CIA is still in the detention/torture business post-Bush, and finally, last but not least, that the US is enabling and colluding with murderous al-Qaeda forces to occupy Libya and topple Syria are repellent and criminal.

No wonder Broadwell had the FBI hard-knuckle-knocking on her door. No wonder the U.S. administration and media are steering all focus away from evidence of institutionalized colossal evil.

Speculation by members of the strident left Obama does not take seriously. Hard evidence suggested by someone like Broadwell who had access to such a high-ranking military operative as Petraeus makes all those war criminal administrators legally accountable.

To the rescue of the war criminals, corporate media! Once again "personality over principle" titillating propaganda enables the continuation and escalation of institutionalized evil. Once again the citizenry and I'm thinking a good number even in Congress GET PLAYED! After all, a number of Congresspeople had cronied up pretty tightly with the popular Petraeus.

This Petraeus “morals” scandal cover-up is not only gobsmacking but INSULTING at least to the apparently small number of us who are awed and stymied at belonging to such a conscience-less, war criminal nation. Belonging to a citizenry the majority of whom freshly endorsed the murder/war/detention/black ops programs from BOTH corporate legacy parties.

As I type this I am watching the talking heads on the NewsHour scramble to apologize for the “human” marital lapse of the great David Petraeus (like Obama, another “magic”, teflony, Trojan Horse tool for the inhuman military industrial security prison media matrix) as they lead us away, one more time, from the REAL story. The realpolitik of evil.

Fiscal cliff? Yes, coming soon. What about the moral cliff the United States plunged over long ago and has never recovered from?

As this Great American Ethical Freakshow roars ever onward!

 

[cross-posted on correntewire] 

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Another in the long, long litany of horror stories about all the scummy things done by, for, and in aid of immoral and unethical 'Merikan predatory greed and malfeasance. Ah well, the more we hear the less we pay attention.

At least your renderings have the advantage of being very well written......

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The most shocking thing about all of this is that a journalist of any political persuasion is shocked by the idea that the State Department gives the CIA cover overseas. When were these guys hatched? It hasn't been a secret that embassies and consulates are mainly office space for the Company since the Cold War. And the CIA has close ties to the military? The first director was a retired general.

Another shock is that it's taken the leftwing media (OK, the NON-corporate media, although one must wonder who writes those guys' paychecks....) so long to grasp that sex attracts eyeballs. Now that it is done I suppose we'll be reading lots of snips about Obamabots and their totties.

I'll make a stab here that if Petraeus doesn't testify himself (putting a stop to one conspiracy theory), his second in command will do so. And also that it will never be determined, but someone had it in for both Petraeus and Broadwell and hinted to the FBI where the goods were kept. Maybe other brass who wanted to be porking an alpha female? Craven, I call it. Many cravens!
I think all we know for certain about this story is that it had nothing to do with adultery. Obama appears to be distancing himself from Petraeus - and couldn't risk doing so prior to the election. It could be he's just distancing himself from the Benghazi debacle. One could hope he's also distancing him from Petraeus' hawkish position on the US occupation of Iraq, Afghanistan and Pakistan - and turning the CIA into a paramilitary operation. Thanks for posting.
Libby, you hit on some extremely intriguing aspects of what our government gets away with -- in broad day light. The sex affair is no huge matter, in itself. But what has me wondering here, is the timing... wow, now I know that there is much more here than can we stick the fork into, as we may not be done with this. The media has been so co-opted that I can not discern that much difference in the tabloid press and the official beacons of assumed wisdom and cool candid objectivity. They just want to pour out idle speculation which lathers the USA TODAY minds into enough appetite that they return for the next episode of another sordid soap opera.
This may lead to the collapse of the machine that has recently swept themselves into victory ... Nixon was brought down by a third rate burglary, by a cast of boobs right out of B movie. Well done. R>>>>>>>>>>>>>.
I imagine the tomfoolery if the US government from the Gulf of Tonkin through all the phony theatrics over 9/11 to involve the country in a war with Iraq etc.,etc probably fools nobody outside the USA anymore and to follow Groucho's remarks about a book, inside the USA it's too dark to think. The idiots in control of the country are crashing it left and right in any way a mindless vandal can manage and at that endeavor they seem supremely talented. And the public remains in a drooling stupor drugged by the most idiotic media anyone can imagine.
Maybe... maybe he just fell on his sword with his resignation to spare the administration embarrassment. Either way nothing would surprise me at this point in our fifteen year cluster fuck. R&R
That the the United States has been guilty of a variety of war crimes since 2001 is indisputable. And as you've rightly mentioned, none of this appears to be germane to the Petraeus scandal in the press.

Two things do stand out in this extramarital affair coverage. One is that a right wing FBI agent was the lead sled dog, going so far as to contact Rep. Eric Cantor about Petraeus' infidelities in October. If the head of the CIA's email traffic is being read, what does this say about our right to privacy from government snooping as lowly citizens?

The second thing is that Petraeus' affair does serious damage to the Repug attack machine on the issue of the Benghazi deaths. Petraeus' and the CIA's cozying up to Al Queda elements in part because of right wing demands that we "do something" regarding Syria are certainly inconvenient.

But never let it be said that the Land of Freedom wasn't a capitol of hypocrisy.
They just had a segment on Close Up, one of our mainstream news programs, about Petraeus - they had an analyst on from Washington who said the resignation had nothing to do with adultery - that this was a clear policy change by Obama. This was the first I heard that Petraeus had sabotaged Obama's efforts to establish diplomatic channels with Iran. The link should be on-line this weekend and I will post it.
Sky, I always appreciate your support and sensibility to the heart of darkness of this war criminal nation. You express it well:

"Another in the long, long litany of horror stories about all the scummy things done by, for, and in aid of immoral and unethical 'Merikan predatory greed and malfeasance."

And then you write:

"Ah well, the more we hear the less we pay attention."

The tipping point to DESENSITIZATION. The ugly troops chant, "kill 'em all, let God sort 'em out!"

Wait until more Americans on American soil are in the so-called line of fire, in terms of unignorable invasion of privacy, detention, even death. "Black ops" is the new black. Not so new, really. And Obama et al have only one commandment, the 13th, "DON'T GET CAUGHT". Until then, gamesmanship, ends justifies the means.

best, libby
Joe, thanks for comment!

Without accountability and oversight and transparency we can not begin to imagine the horrifying and malicious and toxic entity that the tentacled CIA has morphed into over the years. A convenient private unaccountable army where anything goes, and corruption can escalate in the fast track "ends justifies the means" mania. The turf wars between Pentagon , CIA and FBI (and ... whatever other names ... 16 intelligence agencies, right?) and at the same time revolving door to each other (Petraeus as creature of the Pentagon to director of the CIA for example). The whole idea of "fair game" as we remember from Rove et al. and Valerie Plame applied to so many of "them" and "us".

You don't go to prison or get impeached re sex crimes. And a lot of the public vilification goes after the women in this macho culture. We are watching propaganda kabuki. We are being played.

It would be funny if it weren't so obscene that after so much inhumane suffering spread around the globe, the sex stuff ends careers. But MacChystal and Petraeus, etc., serve their purposes to set in motion more machinery of profit-making murder and again have served their usefulness as larger than life celebrity generals in the name of corporate psychopathy.

Also, the nightmare incestuous relationship of media and military. The corporate media is not only conscienceless to these wars and the not hidden hegemony agenda of our country but there is that cronyism again between media celebs and military celebs and they enable each other and inflate the bubble of their own opportunism and narcissism and foster American exceptionalism.

Paula Broadwell blurted out some highly classified maybe pillow talk disclosures, when journal and military egos meet, and she leaked something she was not even aware could topple herself (though the book she wrote will sell well undoubtedly) and Petraeus (who is still legendary and corporate useful and will pull in millions for books and speaking engagements or whatever, not to mention what he has socked away -- I mean mass murder must pay well! think Kissinger. actually Petraeus is our generation's Westmoreland!)

best, libby
Stuart, thanks for commenting! Yes, you write:

"I think all we know for certain about this story is that it had nothing to do with adultery."

Re Obama, I am reluctant to get my hopes up in a Lucy and the football replay one more time that Obama is going the right direction toward diplomacy. The idea that it would be his style lesser evilism as our one chance as a global family for salvation offers me little hope.

I have read Obama gave Petraeus the plum assignment of CIA Director to bribe him not to run for President. Once again, Obama's ambition trumps the welfare of a nation, or was Obama just as razzle-dazzled by Petraeus popularity with media and pols and his military bullshit that cost millions of lives but that seems so seldom factored into military appointments. In fact the greater the number of dead, the greater the macho respect?

The patriarchal and psychopathic military matrix has infected our government and our media and our population and more and more crony nations willing to find their own hearts of darkness.

Sometimes the picture of the big forest is so nauseating it is hard to see light or to wade through the levels of struggle amidst the trees and those fighting evil on the front line. Of course, those willing to fight on the front line, if you remember, are Obama's worst whistle-blowing enemies.

I can't get out of my head and heart the number of troops who commit suicide because they are contending up close and personal with the heart of darkness of a country that betrayed them and humanity so profoundly that it broke their minds and bodies and spirits!

best, libby
Deep Calm, thanks for commenting. Reading your comment I think of that adage about it is often not the real crimes but the cover ups of the crimes that bring down the high and mighty.

The timing of this incident is curious (an understatement) and the manipulation of the timeline is colossal. Holder (Mr. Fast and Furious) knew for months of the affair from the FBI. Dir. Clapper of National Security is supposedly told on election day at 5pm! Then he informs the WH on Wed. The WH informs Obama on THURSDAY (WTF? it wasn't important enough to bring to him ASAP?) and Obama gets the resignation letter and then accepts Petraeus' resignation on Friday. All neatly and dramatically done right after the election but don't for a sec think anything is hinky! And then THEY -- all relevant betraying parties -- protest, it has nothing to do with politics. What colossal bullshit. Sirens of cognitive dissonance.

Now this could have been an October surprise but it probably would bring down too many people on both sides of the aisle? Since the FBI agent contacted Eric Cantor about the affair.

But who really cares (though everyone should care for getting the real truth), though it may make a B movie you mention in the future and for now good old as American as apple pie scandal-schadenfreude and misogynistic cat fight scenario will distract the vast numbers of Americans and talk shows and even what used to be serious news programs (now lost to the 6 mega-conglomerates of propaganda).

More to come! It used to be we the people didn't get the full story about such crises and high profile circuses, now we get another story to keep us entirely away from the real one!

How far have we come to escape Watergate shenanigans? I'm thinking we are back there and worse.

best, libby
Jan, thanks for commenting once again! Your Groucho reference rang a bell but I couldn't remember the quote exactly so I googled:

"Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend. Inside of a dog it's too dark to read." Groucho Marx

Hah! And YES, IT DOES SEEM TOO DARK TO READ IN THE USA. The fog from say the smoke of manipulative media/pol firestorms is too much for us to see through and to even breathe through, I'm thinking!

Groucho also said, "Politics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it everywhere, diagnosing it incorrectly and applying the wrong remedies." Boy, does that sum up the MURDEROUS NIGHTMARE of US foreign and now domestic policy.

The knee-jerk reaction to anyone calling out the bullshit is still "conspiracy theorist". 9/11, the Kennedy assassination, there must be a super long list somewhere.

I remember one day Charlie Rose interviewing the ex-president of "now" conscience Jimmy Carter and Rose brought up the idea of judicially holding accountable the executive branch execs past and present and I thought an agitated Carter was going to faint in the chair.

You write:

"The idiots in control of the country are crashing it left and right in any way a mindless vandal can manage and at that endeavor they seem supremely talented. And the public remains in a drooling stupor drugged by the most idiotic media anyone can imagine."

God, Jan, I love your eloquent bluntness.

The keys to the bus of state have been given for another four years to an executive addict careening us at the edge of and down cliffs.

Some say "less an addict" prez than a "worse addict" prez. Geeeeeez. Cold comfort. So the US citizenry has PROCRASTINATED real change. Obama ran for "change we can believe in" in 2008 and now the country ops in 2012 for more incremental destructive change.

best, libby
jmac, thanks for commenting!

all I can say is "aggghhhhhhhhhh". Michael Hastings who is so honest about the Petraeus and MacChrystal travesties still admits to having a twisted admiration for the man. I can't presume to grasp the human reality of these players, even with Obama, is he incompetent, evil, weak-willed, probably all of the above, but I do recognize COLOSSAL BULLSHIT being served. As Jan says above, the international world looks at America and shakes their heads. One writer said that people outside the US think we are either hypnotized and/or deranged! No argument!

I relate to this:

"Either way nothing would surprise me at this point in our fifteen year cluster fuck."

best, libby
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ONL, thanks for commenting!

I am stymied by the FBI/CIA behind the scenes dog fight, if one does exist. 16 intelligence agencies we as taxpayers are enabling to our own loss of privacy rights. This money goes to destabilization and destruction of other countries, infrastructures and citizens, as well as that of our own country.

The right wing FBI agent who spilled the affair beans to Eric Cantor, and who subsequently has come under fire as "obsessed" with the so-called email-harassed second woman and sent her email photos of himself shirtless. Oy vey!

And since Cantor knew of the affair prior to the election why did he keep his trap shut since I am thinking it would have hurt Obama in the election more than Romney since it all was on his watch! But you are right, the war hawks of the Republicans do not want the war criminality exposed for the sake of the corporate overlords they are pimped to, as well as the Dem pols.

The Congress sells out the people for its own political survival and they are betrayers and secret-keepers from the public even though they take an oath of office to honor us and the constitution.

Petraeus opened a gmail account for the love communications. Go figure. Mr. highest security clearance in the world opens up a modest gmail account! hah!

Broadwell hacked his gmail was it and though found no classified info it led to her home and computers being combed through by FBI.

The vast invasion of our privacy by the vast homeland security apparatus all paid for on our dime as more and more of us are economically drowning. Constitutional rights and tax dollars. It is obscene and staggering.

ONL, as I tried to express to Stuart, I know there are political partisan shenanigans and undercurrents, serious ones, and I am not hip enough to begin to know the ins and outs of that, in those boys' clubs, patriarchical cultures, and also my total disgust, ONL, with BOTH PARTIES, ESPECIALLY THE DEM PARTY THAT IS SO HYPOCRITICAL IT ENRAGES ME. But I take your point that the war-crazed Republicans led by the likes of crazy McCain, Graham and Lieberman, ever stoking the crony-Israel war-mongering, did not want to discredit the now drone-crazed and always dark ops Petraeus.

ONL, what I want to know is why is NO ONE enraged that we are supporting al Qaeda, USING al Qaeda, in Libya and Syria and God knows where else.

We get in bed with terrorists, we get up with worse than fleas.

WHY IS NOT US TEAMING WITH AL QAEDA NEVER A SERIOUS NEWS STORY???? The media and the public are obtuse on this issue!!!! Talk about betraying our troops and the countries we have turned into failed states. But betrayal is what the game is about. No honor. No integrity. No respect for human life. Gamesmanship.

As you say hypocrisy, rampant hypocrisy!

Our pols don't even try to pretend to be statespeople.

best, libby
libby

I think what we are seeing here is the retaking of the Democrats by the feminist/Clinton wing ( Remember, Southern White Girls often are married to Southern White guys)

http://open.salon.com/blog/token/2012/11/15/southern_strategy_redux
Stuart, thanks for the head's up. Will be interested in seeing their take even though I am distrustful now of all media, even the supposed enlightened programs! :-) best, libby
Thanks, Rudy. I left the following comment on your referenced blog:

[r] I match you in anger if not in all dimensions of ideology, Rudy.

blind Identity politics got Obama back in. Women and Latinos put on blinders about the ruthless betrayal of everyone and clung to the bullshit rhetoric.

I have no idea what the future of the Dem or Repub parties is. May they both rot in hell.

I have as much contempt if not more for Hillary Clinton than Obama who is every bit the amoral gamesperson as Obama. She and Petraeus and their dark plans for Iran.

I remember when Petraeus said something honest about Israel and the global trouble it made for everyone and he couldn't walk it back fast enough for the sake of his political survival. Hillary keeps her servile stance to Israel.

What feminist wing? The three harpies of Susan Rice, Hillary and what's her name, that third woman I once thought was impressive and turned into a neolib hawk, Samantha Powers. Blecccch.

I am out of the loop re the Dems, I am afraid, Rudy.

If you are talking Green Party Jill Stein humanism, I can talk that talk. Feinstein, Wasserman (who was so stupid she didn't even know about obama's kill list), McCaskill ... our pols are trying to do all the bullshitting they can now to get the citizens whom they betrayed by giving away $16 trillion tax dollars to the banksters and the fraudsters but whom they want to coax us now into more austerity slashing our entitlements while talking up modest taxes on the rich. All the time enjoying their Gucci shoes and Tiffany jewelry and for them and their families lifetime primo healthcare.

And we as citizens should simply eat shit and smile? Well, we actually did by voting like good little lemmings this recent election. We gave up our leverage to strike fear into either party by not endorsing and enabling third parties working for us.

What a stupid citizenry! conscience-less and stupid!

best, libby
libby

I think that you are as much a Dem as I am a Repug. ie. I passed as a Repug and earned $120 as a Precinct judge last tuesday.
( My Dem opposite had done the same)

No, people of conscience can only place bets, give advice, and, in the hope of something better to come, shake their heads and say, what fools these mortals be, sometimes fun to watch, sometimes incredibly painful to watch- like any of your children.

I've been asked to write a "sunday School Lesson, so I'll let off politicking for a while
I'm writing on the fall of adam and eve, from eating the fruit of the tree of the knowlege of "Is" and "Isn't"
I'm starting the "Long Island Iced T-Party"

The slogan is "CHILL"

The Platform is mostly "mind your own business, but remember that your business will be required to put more into the community than it takes out" The theory is that the ONLY "Fair Trade" is one that benefits ALL parties to a "deal"

The "encouraging" part of this election is the number of state issues that re-asserted the "Mind your own business" part.

IE. Abortion is none of the states business.
Drug use doesn't become the states business until you endanger someone else ( eg- DUI )
Who or what you chose to have sex with is no-one else's business . Tax and Social advantages sanctioned by the state will be either open to any couple, or preferably not provided to ANY couple.
Taxes will be flat rate and based not on Income, but on a percentage of your wealth. No Exemptions.
No more Food stamps. Organized food distribution
No more Mortgage exemption. Free basic public housing.

The federal government returns to it's role of protecting our borders and dealing with ACTUAL "Interstate COMMERCE (ie actual TRADE- not "intellectual possibility of trade")

In that regard, the Federal Government Closes the Borders and when they ARE closed, grants AMNESTY ( NOT Citizenship- that must be Earned) to all illegals in the country.

The question of "corporate" personhood" will be revisited on a state by state basis, with an emphasis on the distinctions between the rights of a Human "citizen" and the "rights" of a corporate one.

The problem that I see that will be most delicate between us will be of "Global Warming", because quite frankly, I see cap and trade as another market scam to make people like Al Gore even richer.

I whole heartedly agree with conservation and recycling, and making sure that industrial sites don't poison the environment. Where we have room for discussion is whether CO2 is a "Pollutant" or just a way of bankrupting the coal industry to the benefit of speculators.

The way I see it, the only way to prevent Obamney et alia from taking over and doing just what you predict, is to organize NOW for a party that will embrace the concerns of BOTH the T-Party AND OWS

Citizens of conscience must work together to take back the electorate from the citizens of "self-interest".

I'm trying to get this guy to run:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rX-GAkaXSSI&feature=player_embedded
What a stupid citizenry! conscience-less and stupid!

But not you, of course. You are not a stupid citizen. You have a conscience. It is just the 99.9% of us who disagree with your extreme, unrealistic views that are stupid and without conscience.

You ought always to mention that in an out-front way so that the five or six people who scurry to your posts to congratulate you on your astuteness understand you are including them.

And you ought really to mention the grassy knoll, Libby. You folk always seem to forget about the grassy knoll.
Fun to speculate about it, futile to think we'll ever know for sure. We're nearly 50 years and a plethora of books and theories from the JFK murder and we're still in the dark -- which is precisely where we are supposed to be and to remain. Does it still have legs? Could be:

You Just Never Know
@Frank

I'll bet you'll be almost as surprised by how quickly people in a "Majority" election can turn on Obama as I was by how quickly "They" got Nixon-

@Matt

Remember the Grassy Knoll- Where was Johnson's "Evil Twin" that afternoon-- would have sent you this by PM, But that doesn't work-
Nice story, but the REAL conspiracy Hillary is going to be worried about is THIS one:-)

http://open.salon.com/blog/token/2012/11/15/southern_strategy_redux
@Frank

I'll bet you'll be almost as surprised by how quickly people in a "Majority" election can turn on Obama as I was by how quickly "They" got Nixon-

@Matt

Remember the Grassy Knoll- Where was Johnson's "Evil Twin" that afternoon-- would have sent you this by PM, But that doesn't work-
Nice story, but the REAL conspiracy Hillary is going to be worried about is THIS one:-)

http://open.salon.com/blog/token/2012/11/15/southern_strategy_redux
You Do Great Research. That's Noble.
It's every Citizen's Responsibility. Know.
Be Informed. This is a Keeper. Bad Mood.
I mean these Truths create Ruin. Destruction.
I Weary my inner Sore Being Reading Sad News.
I confess I Backed-Off Keeping Abreast. Nauseating.
I THank You and Otters. Possums Help Brief The USA.
Woe Media Scribes.
I Enjoy Comment. Jan Sands Mentions The Tonkin Gulf.
Two?
Two Elected Officials Had The Guts To Not Kill Others.
`
Tolstoy - The Generals sit all day and woo cheap whore.
They drink Booze and Play War by Proxy LIE Murder.
Sociopaths.
Pathetic.
The LIE.
Dark
Cohorts
Ploy boys
I've met
Cowards!
Abstract Killers. 3.2. Million Innocent Peasant.
I confess to get Nauseated. I Thank Muckrakers.
I Tossed TV away. I don't use a Home Computer.
I Restrain myself and Plan to be 100-years young.
If I Plan Properly I'll Be Young at 80- as Jan Sands
You Do Great Research. That's Noble.
It's every Citizen's Responsibility. Know.
Be Informed. This is a Keeper. Bad Mood.
I mean these Truths create Ruin. Destruction.
I Weary my inner Sore Being Reading Sad News.
I confess I Backed-Off Keeping Abreast. Nauseating.
I THank You and Otters. Possums Help Brief The USA.
Woe Media Scribes.
I Enjoy Comment. Jan Sands Mentions The Tonkin Gulf.
Two?
Two Elected Officials Had The Guts To Not Kill Others.
`
Tolstoy - The Generals sit all day and woo cheap whore.
They drink Booze and Play War by Proxy LIE Murder.
Sociopaths.
Pathetic.
The LIE.
Dark
Cohorts
Ploy boys
I've met
Cowards!
Abstract Killers. 3.2. Million Innocent Peasant.
I confess to get Nauseated. I Thank Muckrakers.
I Tossed TV away. I don't use a Home Computer.
I Restrain myself and Plan to be 100-years young.
If I Plan Properly I'll Be Young at 80- as Jan Sands
&
The Open Salon Site Reminds me of Bloody Carnage?
Will editors or Salon CEO Keep Readers Informed, huh?
3 X's
&
"Petraeus was a general. Petraeus was head of the C.I.A. Petraeus is a professional killer. I don't say that like it's a bad thing -- I mean, I think it's a bad thing, but I'm just weird that way -- I just say it because it's a fact. He kills people, or at least orders a whole lot of people to be killed, and guess what: THEY'RE KILLED. So he's a professional killer. Look, it's a living. A guy's gotta make a living."

How rude of him to say so! It is so much easier to focus on his sex life for entertainment purposes than it is to acknowledge these inconvenient facts.
Here's the link I promised you last week: http://tvnz.co.nz/close-up/2012-11-15-video-5219316

The commentator interviews former CIA analyst Ray McGovern (I have never seen McGovern on mainstream TV in the US), who states that Petraeus was manipulating the more dovish members of Obama's team into a situation where they were forced to engage in ever more military aggression. The McGovern segment starts at 13:41.