SEPTEMBER 12, 2013 7:55AM

Israel Hearts Saudi Arabia!!!?!

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Mahdi Darius Nazemroaya in “An Israeli-Saudi-US conspiracy? Saudi Arabia’s 'Chemical Bandar' Behind the Syrian Chemical Attacks?” writes:

Nothing the US claims about what happened in Syria adds up. We are being asked to believe an illogical story, when it is much more likely that it was Israel and Saudi Arabia who enabled the Obama Administration to threaten Syria with war.

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So it seems that the Saudis enabled the chemical attack while the Israelis provided them cover to ignite a full-scale war, or at the very least enable a bombing campaign against Damascus. Israel and Saudi Arabia have empowered the Obama Administration to threaten war on Syria.

Hmmmmm. So good chance the Saudis supplied chemical weapons to the rebels for a false flag operation and the Israelis provided the Obama administration with fake intel that the Assad soldiers were responsible for the chemical weapons attack?

Nazemroaya writes of a report from a Syrian named Abdel-Moneim who maintains that his son and 12 other rebels were killed trying to store weapons from a Saudi militant by the name of Abu Ayesha. Further sources revealed for him the original source of the chemical weapons was CIA-favorite Saudi intelligence chief, Prince Bandar bin Sultan.

The Mint Press News report adds an important dimension to the story, totally contradicting the claims of the US government. It quotes a female insurgent fighter who says things that make a link to Saudi Arabia clear. She says that those who provided them with weapons ‘didn’t tell them what these arms were or how to use them” and that they “didn’t know they were chemical weapons.” “When Saudi Prince Bandar gives such weapons to people, he must give them to those who know how to handle and use them,” she is quoted.

Is that really the true story that the mainstream corporate media will never go near? Instead, it is all twisted up in a colossal, war-catalytic lie?

Nazemroaya declares that none of the Obama administration speeches offer conclusive confirmation based on a half-assed chemical weapons intelligence report which reads, according to Nazemroaya, “more as a superficial college or university student’s paper put together by wordsmiths instead of genuine experts on the subject.” He writes:

Going in a circle, the report even depends on “unnamed” social media and accounts as sources of evidence or data. Lacking transparency, it states that “there are accounts from international and Syrian medical personnel, videos, witness accounts, thousands of social media reports from at least 12 different locations in the Damascus area, journalist accounts and reports from highly credible non-governmental organizations."

Chances are that these unnamed sources are actually foreign-funded insurgents, Israeli media, Saudi media, the Syrian Observatory for Human Rights - which includes fighters in the ranks of the insurgency and salutes Saudi Arabia as a model democracy - or the NGO Doctors Without Borders. These are the same sources that have been supporting the insurgency and pushing for regime change and military intervention in Syria.

Moreover, one of the main sources of the intelligence and communication interceptions that are supposed to be a smoking gun is none other than Israel, which is notorious for doctoring and falsifying evidence.

Nazemroaya also underlines the additional layer of hypocrisy involved since Saudi Arabia is America’s biggest customer for weaponry:

The moralistic language coming out of Washington is despicable posturing. The hypocrisy of the US government knows no bounds. It condemns the Syrian military for using cluster bombs while the United States sells them en mass to Saudi Arabia.

Pepe Escobar also sheds light on the covert Israel/Saudi Arabia alliance in terms of not only Syria but also Egypt in “The New Axis of Evil: Saudi Arabia, Israel, and the Pentagon Are Backing Egypt's Bloody Crackdown”.

The winners, as it stands, are the House of Saud/Israel/ Pentagon axis. How did they pull it off?

Escobar maintains that Washington seemed to have the reins on both the Muslim Brotherhood, which was willing to bow down to the International Monetary Fund and being supportive of the faux-rebels' fight in Syria, as well as General Sisi’s Egyptian army. The MB had Qatar as a major cheerleader. But then MB’s Morsi must have done something seriously threatening to Israel, speculates Escobar, maybe having to do with the Sinai. This would have a brought thumbs up for the army coup from Tel Aviv and OF COURSE our reactive, Israel-accommodating Pentagon.

Now it is wealthy Saudi Arabia pouring out money to the military junta leader in Egypt as Qatar had been shelling it out to Morsi of the MB leadership. Escobar stresses:

The only thing that matters to Israel is that Sisi's Army will uphold the Camp David agreements. ...

As for Syria, Escobar points out that the House of Saud and Prince Bandar bin Sultan have taken over the “Syrian ‘rebel’ racket” (a/k/a “jihadists”) in the proxy war. Escobar:

The bottom line is that a case can be made that the Obama administration has in fact subcontracted most of its Middle East policy to the House of Saud.

Escobar describes how eager Israel is for the United States to make its stage two OVERT war moves against Syria and then move onto Iran. If the US doesn’t make a dramatic military strike soon Escobar predicts Israel may very well invade Lebanon. Apparently, according to Escobar, Sheikh Nasrallah, Hezbollah's secretary-general, has already been talking about the possibility.

Over in Jordan, Escobar goes on, there is lots of weaponry for escalation bought by the Saudis, weapons supplied by the CIA, for the supposed “good rebels”, trained in Jordan by the CIA.

Escobar’s assessment of the dangerous state of the Middle East at the moment as well as the dangerous alliances coalescing:

With Israel possibly mulling another invasion of Lebanon; the Kerry "peace process" an excuse for more settlements in Palestine; Bandar Bush back practicing the dark arts; the pre-empting of any possible solution to the Iranian nuclear dossier; Egypt in civil war; Syria and also Iraq bleeding to death, what's left is the certified proliferation of all kinds of axes, and all kinds of evil.

Escobar's summation of the volatile and tragic state of Egypt:

Hardcore repression rules. Corruption rules. And foreign domination rules (as in Saudi Arabia, who’s now paying most of the bills, alongside the UAE).

Internationally, the big winners are Saudi Arabia (displacing Qatar), Israel (because the Egyptian army is even more docile than the Brotherhood), and – who else – the Pentagon, the Egyptian army’s pimp. Nowhere in the Milky Way this House of Saud/Israel/Pentagon axis can be spun as “good for the Egyptian people”.

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There’s no other way of saying it; from Washington’s point of view, Arabs can kill each other to Kingdom Come, be it Sunnis against Shiites, jihadis against secularists, peasants against urbanites, and Egyptians against Egyptians. The only thing that matters is the Camp David agreements; and nobody is allowed to antagonize Israel.

So it’s fitting that Sisi’s minions in boots asked Israel to keep their drones near the border, as they need to pursue their “war on terror” in the Sinai. For all practical purposes, Israel runs the Sinai.

Reuters writers Jeffrey Heller and Angus McDowall on September 2nd also addressed the alliance of Israel and Saudi Arabia:

Israel and Saudi Arabia have little love for each other but both are pressing their mutual friend in the White House to hit President Bashar al-Assad hard. And both do so with one eye fixed firmly not on Syria but on their common adversary - Iran.

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But the Saudi monarchy, though lacking Israel's readiness to attack Iran, can share the Jewish state's concern that neither may now look with confidence to Washington to curb what Riyadh sees as a drive by its Persian rival to dominate the Arab world.

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Saudi Arabia, like Israel heavily dependent on the United States for arms supplies, is engaged in a historic confrontation with Iran for regional influence - a contest shaped by their leading roles in the rival Sunni and Shi'ite branches of Islam.

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Israel does not share the Saudi enthusiasm for the Syrian rebel cause, despite its concern about Assad's role as a link between Iran and Lebanese and Palestinian enemies. The presence in rebel ranks of Sunni Islamist militants, some linked to al Qaeda, worries the Jewish state - though Riyadh, too, is keen to curb al Qaeda, which calls the royal family American stooges.

Saudi and Israeli support for U.S. air strikes in response to Assad's alleged use of poison gas scarcely stands out less amid a global clamor of reproach for Damascus. But the recent Egyptian crisis saw them more distinctly making common cause in lobbying Washington - since their preference for Egypt's army over elected Islamists was at odds with much of world opinion.

Heller and McDowall also mention that it was Israeli intercepts of Syrian communications that were given to Obama to help make his flimsy public case for the alleged chemical weapons attack of the Assad regime. They write of Israel's potential volatility:

Netanyahu, whose frosty rapport with Obama blossomed into a display of harmony on the president's visit to Israel in March, has ordered his ministers not to criticize Obama publicly after the president's decision to take the Syrian issue to Congress.

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Concern in Washington over a go-it-alone Israeli strike on Iran are still strong; Israel is unlikely to use the nuclear warheads it is assumed to possess but any strike on its distant and populous enemy would have unpredictable consequences.

Mark Karlin in “Saudi Arabia and Israel Team up Against Syria: Hava Nagila in Riyadh?” also addresses the Saudi/Israel alliance.

He discloses:

Secretary of State John Kerry said at Wednesday’s hearing that Arab countries have offered to pay for the entirety of unseating President Bashar al-Assad if the United States took the lead militarily. “In fact, some of them have said that if the United States is prepared to go do the whole thing the way we’ve done it previously in other places, they’ll carry that cost,” Kerry said.

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... as Obama's call for Congress to approve an attack on Syria appears to be in serious jeopardy, Israel's most visible and powerful lobbying face in the US, AIPAC, was let loose to lobby Congress to try and salvage Obama's strike plans...

The powerful pro-Israel lobby AIPAC is planning to launch a major lobbying campaign to push wayward lawmakers to back the resolution authorizing U.S. strikes against Syria, sources said Thursday.

Officials say that some 250 Jewish leaders and AIPAC activists will storm the halls on Capitol Hill beginning next week to persuade lawmakers that Congress must adopt the resolution or risk emboldening Iran’s efforts to build a nuclear weapon. They are expected to lobby virtually every member of Congress, arguing that “barbarism” by the Assad regime cannot be tolerated, and that failing to act would “send a message” to Tehran that the U.S. won’t stand up to hostile countries’ efforts to develop weapons of mass destruction, according to a source with the group.

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Although it would be presumptuous to now call Saudi Arabia an ally of Israel -- or even predict a peace treaty in the offing -- it is clear that there is a nascent realignment of nation states in the Middle East.  Those who are closely aligned with the West on economic issues and those Arab nation states who want to preserve their non-democratic rule see Israel as a potential partner in suppressing the Arab street and Islamic Fundamentlists affiliated with Iran, along with now Iranian proxy paramilitary Jihadists such as Hezbollah.  Both pose a threat to Israel and the pro-US conservative Arab states.

The threats of the Arab Spring have helped create a surprising, ruthless and mutually counter-revolutionary alliance, Saudi Arabia and Israel.

This newest axis of evil -- Israel, Saudi Arabia and the US -- is committed to murderous militarism and geo-political exploitation against the struggling millions of the Middle East as well as the rest of the globe.

An extra and profound dose of betrayal for the Palestinians by the Saudis, too, one might note.

 

[cross-posted on correntewire]

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The enemy of my enemy is my friend. Or at least when it comes to political power. And they both have essentially hired the U.S. flunky to do their bidding.
There is a piece in The New York Times by Putin that is well worth reading.

A Plea for Caution From Russia - The New York Times
This wouldn't be unprecedented.

On at least a couple of occasions after the Iranian revolution it was a US, Israel and Iranian arms deal that was swept under the rug. Now they attribute it to wild conspiracy theories without refuting the details which have been well documented.
Russia has changed the game. I detailed why in my blog. The story of smuggled Saudi nerve gas is hard to believe. I think I have a better explanation for nerve gas use that would be consistent with US intel findings, i.e. rogue Syrian military officers working with captured rockets as a false flag operation.

There is no doubt of the unholy alliance between Israel and Saudi Arabia on this one, and they are 100% untrustworthy, venal, and double dealing. They are the only parties that would oppose the Russian-Syrian peace initiative. So any talking head on TV that is against the Russian peace process is bought and paid for.

But all of this is reason for optimism and hope, not fear at this point.
more pieces of the puzzle. I read putins editorial today, a real gamechanger. but then there was other news that assad said that israel has to give up its chemical & nuclear weapons also. HAHAHAHA
putins editorial was pretty amazing. he appealed to the UN, etcetera. somehow I dont really think he's all that patriotic & idealistic about the UN as he says.... but, its a remarkable/singular plea for peace vs. chaos.
The funny thing about the Syrian situation is that both Obama's public agenda and that proposed by Putin basically hinge on international law, Obama's on the forbidden use of gas and Putin's on the conformity to not attack if not threatened. It's obvious that both have ulterior motives in their proposals based on national supremacy and control of the Middle East. But Putin's, at minimum,
carries the scent of rationality.
Gordon Duff has an excellent column in Veterans Today that tries to sort out all the conflicting information and disinformation regarding the Aug 21 nerve gas attack. It totally demolishes Kerry's claims about having intelligence "proving" the Assad government was responsible - Kerry's claims about the CIA intercepting radio signals from Assad troops are total fabrications. Here's the link: http://www.veteranstoday.com/2013/09/11/syria-what-americas-congress-should-know/
Why not?

We ALWAYS have our favored despotic countries to
Thanks for that, Dr. Bramhall - I wondered who obama could find slimier than hillary - I can leave that question to rest TOTALLY now.
Human Rights Watch went on the air having concluded that two chemical weapons attacks emanated from the Syrian army. They did their own research and it wasn't based on phony intercepted intel. I wouldn't take the US government's word for it either.

Why does anyone think that Israel would prefer Islamicists in Damascus to Assad? The Saudis, sure, because Sunni Islamicists represent no threat to them, but why Israel? Yes, the Israelis and Saudis agree about Iran, and I wouldn't put it past the Israelis to go into Lebanon if they think too much of certain kinds of weaponry is reaching Hezbollah (who, the last time they fought, initiated the attack on Israel after six years of Israeli nonaggression), but why should Israel care about the US taking cosmetic military action against Syria?

Putin's right, by the way.

And has anyone explained where the Saudis got chemical weapons to funnel to Syrian rebels? I don't think we're currently in the business of exporting something we don't want to proliferate.
KS,

Why does anyone think Israel would prefer Islamists in Syria? Well, I can think of many reasons. Maybe because it would throw Israel's enemies into chaos for the foreseeable future. Internal strife means no organized effort could ever be mounted against Israel. ie, If your enemies are focused on their own problems, they won't be bothering you. Maybe because it would put further pressure on Iran, the only Islamist nation seeking to challenge Israel's nuclear hegemony. Maybe because Israel would like nothing better than Islam to crumble inward against itself and Syria is a battleground for sects of Islam.

Since we aren't capable of considering all of the geopolitical motives, we should never discount anything. That includes the motives of the U.S., Russia, Saudi Arabia, Iran, Syria, etc. That is why incontrovertible evidence is the only tool. You know, like in a court of law. If the evidence rises to a level of "beyond a reasonable doubt", then the international community has a right to act. And, by the way, there are many methods of responding nonviolently such as labeling Assad a war criminal and bringing international charges against him if he is guilty. Murdering people solves what again? Syria already has millions of people living in temporary encampments.
And since the Israelis seem to be in bed with Saudi Arabia that is trans-shipping all sorts of nasty stuff to the fanatical Syrian rebels why should it be a tough job for these very technically clever people to get the Saudis whatever nerve gas they might desire? If they can swindle the USA out of atomic bomb information, nerve gas should be rather easy going.
Of course, this is merely speculation but it doesn't seem far fetched.
TL,
I'm not arguing in favor of intervention in Syria. Every comment I've written on the topic has been in opposition to it, so don't bother making that case to me.

Chaos isn't useful to Israel. Chaos means independent groups firing at Israel and disappearing.

Jan,
That Israel is in bed with Saudi Arabia would be news to both their populations. That's a pretty bald assertion. All that has been established is that they have a common enemy in Iran.
http://www.opposingviews.com/i/politics/foreign-policy/united-states-draws-criticism-sale-1300-cluster-bombs-saudi-arabia#

"United States Draws Criticism For Sale Of 1300 Cluster Bombs To Saudi Arabia"

america just LOVES the rogue state. america only wants to see peace in the mideast. Just ask the moral midget john kerry. So why would america be selling such advanced weaponry to one of the most corrupt countries in the region?

Inquiring minds want to know???

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I have no idea why the US would sell cluster bombs to Saudi Arabia. I have no idea who the Saudis would use them on.

However, I don't think cluster bombs would create the kind of controversy that chemical weapons do. The question isn't whether the US would sell advanced weapons to anyone, the question is whether they'd sell a weapon whose use they generally oppose. The logic of that doesn't exactly add. "Hi, you can't use this, but we sold it to you." ??

We know the United States acts unethically. That's not exactly a secret.
There is a detailed article at http://consortiumnews.com/2013/08/29/the-saudi-israeli-superpower/ which indicates that the Israelis and the Saudis have much to gain in a common purpose. The past history of the congeniality of the Israelis and the now defunct South African apartheid regime is a clear indication of the immorality of Israel's past so this is no fantasy.
That they have much to gain is no secret. That doesn't mean they acted on it. Israel has much to gain by cutting a real deal with the Palestinians. Hamas has much to gain by switching to nonviolent resistance. The US has much to gain by eliminating most fracking. Libby has much to gain by not sounding like she's performing a series of circumcisions. (This last one is flippant.)

You see anyone moving?
See http://voiceofrussia.com/2013_08_31/Saudi-Prince-Bandar-delivered-Israeli-chemicals-to-Syrian-terrorists-Official-7578/
There is also an interesting article at http://www.counterpunch.org/2013/09/13/the-people-against-the-800-pound-gorilla/

I don't necessarily agree with it entirely, but it is worth reading.
The targeted population in Damascus opposed the regime.
I doubt anyone could sensibly assert Assad was a popular ruler but, the fanatic opposition is so much worse it's a grotesque version of the recent American presidential election where many voted for the lesser evil.
That's actually kind of true
I quite much agree with Jan Sand. Assad is not popular, but if he would be toppled, the new regime would be probably worse.

I think that this whole mess in Syria has been created by the US trying to beat Hezbollah and Iran behind them.

Hezbollah has already proved to be the most powerful player in the region, they drove Israel's army out of Lebanon already twice. Americans can't attack Iran, before Hezbollah is beaten.

Assad, Putin and Nasrallah have maybe won this battle, but we'll see what Obama will try next. The war is not over yet.
Prince Bandar bin Sultan has always been a piece of work. I can't think of anyone else in the world who has the connections or the money to pull off a false flag chemical weapons attack; nor can I think of anyone who would be cynical enough to try to pull it off. I don't even believe that Mossad would try to engineer that level of high risk/low reward chicanery. Strange bedfellows but not beyond the realm of possibility. R&R