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I am a wife, mother of 3, RN, and all for truth, not sound bites. I have Lupus, and several other autoimmune diseases and a stroke survivor. I am a very cheerful, optimistic and happy person, and always try to look for the best in the world! Also, I am an unapologetic liberal. Progressive ideas are what made this country and what continue to move it forward, without progress, we wither on the vine!

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APRIL 30, 2010 10:33AM

WOMEN'S BODIES UP FOR GRAB IN OKLAHOMA

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The demeaning treatment of pregnant women in the state of Oklahoma would be laughable if it wasn’t so scary. Radical pro-lifers do not just want abortion to end, they want birth control to end. I wonder how some of the 20-30 something ambivalents about abortion feel about that. I have stated before that I don’t believe in abortion, but I also do not think there should be legislation to prevent it, other than to assure safety. To place the rights of a fetus above those of the mother is ludicrous and sad. See http://open.salon.com/blog/libmomrn/2010/03/09/the_abortion_debate

According to CDC statistics, about 6100 abortions are done each year in Oklahoma. Of that number, I wonder how many are therapeutic abortions. That is, an abortion done because of a miscarriage. The Dilation and Evacuation(D &E) procedure is used for women who have an incomplete abortion, the medical term for miscarriage. Sometimes not all of the products of conception are expelled, and need to be removed surgically to prevent sepsis( a systemic infection).

I grew up Catholic. I am the youngest of 8 children. I always joked I wanted a dozen kids of my own, because I absolutely love children. My first pregnancy was scary, as I developed pre-eclempsia. The day they induced me, my blood pressure was 240/130. Lucky I was young, or I would have had a stroke. My second pregnancy was hampered by pre-eclempsia, pre-term labor, and kidney failure. My third I suffered a miscarriage. My fourth pregnancy was also significant for pre-eclempsia and kidney failure( I actually got written up in a perinatology textbook, as my case was so unusual). I spent 4 weeks on my left side at the hospital. My weary husband brought my then 4 and 5 year olds to visit when he could. During the day, the kids went to various family members’ homes. My OB/GYN told me that as I was in a Catholic Hospital, he couldn’t tell me not to have any more children, but then told me not to have any more, as I would be leaving the children I already had without a mother. Thankfully, I delivered a healthy baby. If I had happened to become pregnant again, I cannot honestly say what I would have done. Obviously, if my life was at risk, I would have a difficult decision to make.

As I had mentioned, I had the misfortune of suffering a miscarriage 18 years ago. As I was bleeding and my hemoglobin(red blood cell count) kept dropping, it became apparent that I needed a D & E, as I was at risk for sepsis. My born-again Christian sister had the nerve to say “Are you sure, you know these doctors love doing abortions?” and “You know there is so much they can do today, can’t they put the baby back?”. To say that to someone in a fragile emotional and physical state is crazy and not very Christ-like.  This is the current mind-set with many legislators today.  Women cannot be trusted if they are pregnant, and if they do miscarry, it is their fault!

Because of my complicated pregnancies and the amount of time I spent in the hospital, I decided to become a nurse. In nursing school, we had maternity rounds at a local hospital. We would shadow and assist RNS. At the end of the day, we would meet with our instructor to go over the days events. I remember her telling us to never jump to conclusions about patients. Whether you are taking care of a single or a married mom, or even a patient recovering from abortion. Some of my fellow nursing students said that they could not take place in the care of someone who had an abortion. The nursing instructor proceeded to tell us about how years before, when she was a maternity nurse, there was a 16 year old girl on the ward. The other nurses treated this girl rudely, they were angry she was 16 and recovering from her second abortion. Lo and behold, child welfare showed up later that day to get a court order to prevent the girl’s father from taking her home. It turned out that she was a victim of incest. When she got pregnant, her father forced her to have the abortions, then beat her for getting pregnant, even though he was the one who impregnated her. How used and powerless must that poor girl have felt. She was abused not only by her father, but by her caregivers.

So here we are in the 21st century, and women’s bodies are still up for grabs because of Bible-thumping, judgmental, and insane pro-lifers, of which the men are guilty of ‘uterine envy’. Always wanting to get into our pants, with this law- BIG TIME. Talk about a nanny state. These legislators think they know what is best for you, then play God. In Oklahoma, women have historically been treated like chattel, now even more so. Please see MaryAnn Sorrentino’s blog from yesterday-http://open.salon.com/blog/mary_ann_sorrentino/2010/04/29/scorecard_unborn_-_1_already-born_-_0

If we, as a society, truly want to honor and respect life, we would make life easier for women to seek care for reproductive issues, instead of constantly throwing road blocks in the way.  How about we truly respect life by caring for the already born, as well as the unborn? That would truly be a novel idea to the pro-life crowd. In the mean time, STAY OUT OF OUR BODIES.

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I can' think of anything more imposing than someone trying to govern my body. It just makes me fume. Personally, until there are no more children in orphanages and foster care, I don't want to hear it!
I wrote on this the other day and your piece is sharper than mine was. Thanks for this. OSers should create a body of blogs on this. OK! is just not OK.
Thanks for this..and coming from an RN-- a person on the cutting edge of what all the medical imnplications are for women-- it means a lot. Rated!
Talk about keeping it real. I'm pro-choice, but the subject can still become a bit too academic for me and I lose touch. I've never had such a personal or professional experience; I appreciate you sharing yours.
It seems right to life, liberty, pursuit of happiness and privacy starts at conception, ends with menstruation and starts up again with menopause.
I am prochoice and totally respect why people are against abortion. The reasons that most people would choose to go ahead with an abortion actually goes to making a responsible choice about the inability to manage a pregnancy, birth or child rearing- for emotional, health and safety, and economic reasons. All valid reasons, whether we think there should be another way. They are the same considerations one gives when they plan to have children or continue with an unplanned pregnancy. Abortion is birth control, on a very specific, situation at a time, extremely personal level. It isn't contraception.
Thanks for all of your comments and thanks for the EP! I was merely trying to say that if women can be trusted to get pregnant and become mothers and raise children, the same trust should be there if a pregnancy ends, either by birth, miscarriage or abortion. Women have been diminished by this law and others attempting to exert the final say for our mediacl decisions!
I wrote on this too and your piece says it much better. It is an either/or situation. Either you see that the mother is more important than the fetus or you don't.
beautifully written. Especially loved the last 2 paragraphs! rated
Rated! Your piece is refreshing. And your own story backs up the fact that these issues are complicated. I fear that young women who have never lived in an age where they had no choice will not stand with those of us who do remember the bad old days. Keep your laws off our bodies!
Thanks for the report from the front lines. This OK thing makes me want to set up an underground railroad for those women, although I'm sure it will be challenged in court and so forth. I read on another blog that the OK Supreme Court (apparently the remaining few people in OK with actual brains) has already scolded the Taliban in the OK Legislature many times over not only this latest insult, but the myraid other anti-Constitutional antics they've engaged in over the past few years. (And I have family in OK...) Where do these people come from? How is it they are so bone-deep ignorant?

And when did "Mind Your Own Business" go out of style? About the time the so-called "moral" "majority" got invited to the power table, I'd say.
Bravo! From a born & bred, bleeding heart liberal Okie. Yeah, we do exist...I think there's about 10 of us in the state now!
Simply burning hot! I admire your post to the skies--it is what I have said with great back-up!
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It seems to me that if these people truly believe what they say, every time a sexually active woman menstruates the menses would have to be baptized and given a christian burial just in case there was a conception that didn't implant.

Now someone's going to tell about people they know who do that, aren't they? Well, at least it would be honest.
Eh ... One of the defining moments of my life was a nurse-practitioner (who knew very well about my personal situation, because it was a military base overseas and everybody knew everything about everyone else ... these places have small towns in the shade as far as gossip goes) saying to me - "OK, your pregnancy test has come back positive. We can't do abortions here at the base hospital ... but if you don't want to continue your pregnancy, we can refer you to a clinic off-base..." And I instantly said, "No, I will keep my baby."
I have always been very glad that I had that choice.
Oh, and the baby in question at that appointment, is now 30 years old, a veteran of 2 hitches in the Marines, and currently in college, as a biological sciences major.
I do not personally approve of abortion ... but I will (and sometimes regretfully) allow that women have the right to make that choice.
Very thoughtful post. I think it's important to highlight the emotional side of choice. There will always be tragedies and emotionally wrenching situations in pregnancies. And it’s important not to lose sight of the humanity of the women involved. At the same time, for me, it’s also important to support a woman’s right to choose with or without emotionalism. A woman’s right to choose can’t depend upon the kindness of strangers and how apt they are to feel sympathy for a woman in a very distressful and/or risky situation. As we have seen, there are too many in this country lacking sympathy, compassion, or empathy for others. I feel like I have to be kind of militant about it. Which I am, so, it works out good.