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Lilith Land
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Grad student finishing up PhD likes to write about sex, culture, cats, research and whatever strikes her fancy. I am doing my dissertation on female sexual satisfaction/dysfunction.

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JUNE 14, 2011 9:41PM

Marilyn Monroe: A Sex Goddess Searches For an Elusive Orgasm

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You said there was an obstacle in my mind that prevented me from having an orgasm; that it was something that happened early in my life about which I felt so guilty that I did not deserve to have the greatest pleasure there is;...That it was buried in my unconscious. Through analysis we would bring it to my conscious mind where we could get to the guilt and free me to be orgasmic. Well, we sure worked it and got nowhere. I'd go home and cry and vomit from the frustration."
                                                                                        - Marilyn Monroe
nude marilyn monroe  

The above paragraph is part of a transcriptmade from tapes Marilyn Monroe allegedly recorded for her psychoanalyst, Dr. Ralph Greenson, not long before her death. LA prosecutor Joseph Minor was probing into Marilyn's death, and he compiled the transcript from tapes Greenson handed over as part of the investigation.

No one knows for a fact that they are legit, but Minor was a credible, though solitary witness. I kind of think that the tapes are authentic. There's too much in them that feels like a real woman speaking.

In these tapes she talks about many things - her feelings about herself, her body, Lawrence Olivier (he was an arrogant prick) -  and the fact that she couldn't orgasm until shortly before her death.

Yep, the twentieth century's greatest sex symbol was anorgasmic

That's the current, politically correct term; her analyst would have called her frigid back in 1962. And as the quote makes plain, it weighed heavily on her. Though she never won an Oscar, apparently, her bedroom performances were worthy of one - a fact that she wryly acknowledges to her shrink. 
"Speaking of Oscars," she says, "I would win overwhelmingly if the Academy gave an Oscar for faking orgasms. I have done some of my best acting convincing my partners I was in the throes of ecstasy."
She was a goddess. A woman's whose bountiful, Rubenesque curves got the entire world off, but she never came. Everybody got off, but poor Marilyn - her lovers, her husbands, the guy who watered her lawn, even Joan Crawford. According to the tapes, Marilyn had a onetime sapphic encounter with the legendary "Mommy Dearest" during which Crawford had a thunderous orgasm (she was a "shrieker"), and during which there were most assuredly no wire hangers in sight.

Greenson was a psychoanalyst, and so Marilyn's initial therapy consisted of free-association (saying whatever comes to mind). The process is supposed to work like a therapeutic version of Drano - blasting away psychological blocks so the analysand can "turn hysterical misery into common unhappiness" (Freud's exact words).

Sound's fun. 

I can't help but have this mental image of Marilyn propped up on her analyst's couch, blond curls spread on the pillow, and in a feathery, little girl voice free-associating like a bat shit fiend (...let's see, orgasm makes me think of organ... and organ makes me think of prick...um... and that makes me think of my ex-husband who was one...you know..). But I digress...

Not surprisingly, it didn't work. Not matter how much emotional sludge she pulled out of the convoluted drainpipe of her unconscious (an unconscious that housed such traumas as parental abandonment and childhood sexual abuse), it wasn't enough to torpedo through her anorgasmia. 

But lucky for her, Greenson hit on a novel idea (novel for a psychoanalyst anyway, not novel for any woman with a right hand). Dispensing with the Drano, he told her to masturbate. And just in case she got lost, he gave her a road map. That is, explicit instructions as to how to actually accomplish this task.  It's no exaggeration to say that this advice was a revelation for Marilyn. Finally, a breakthrough:

"By now I've had lots of orgasms. Not only one, but 2 and 3 with a man who takes his time.
 I never cried so hard as I did after my first orgasm. It was because of the years I had ...never had an orgasm.
What wasted years. How can I describe to you, a man, what an orgasm feels like to a woman. I'll try.
Think of a light fixture with a rheostat control. As you slowly turn it on, the bulb begins to get bright, then brighter and brighter and finally in a blinding flash is fully lit. As you turn it off it gradually becomes dimmer and at last goes out.
It is so good ... Doctor, I worship you."
I think Marilyn makes an amazing case study on this issue. Our culture consistently equates desirability in women with the ability to desire. Indeed, women often confuse the two themselves and assume if they were thinner, had better breasts, they would have better sex. But the fact is being sexy looking, according to social norms, has nothing to do with feeling sexual.

 I find it an ironic metaphor that the 20th century's greatest sex symbol was a woman who was both infertile and anorgasmic. How appropriate. Over the last century, sex has become increasingly disassociated with reproduction butnot necessarily more associated with female pleasure.

According to the National Health and Social Life Survey, around 24% of women have problems experiencing orgasm (other studies have put the figure lower). The DSM-IV (the diagnostic guide of the mental health field) refers to this issue as female orgasmic disorder.

Generally, there are two flavors for your displeasure: generalized (no orgasm  under any circumstances) and situational (orgasm occurs under certain conditions but not others e.g., masturbation but not partner sex, with Joe but not with Bob, or the planets have aligned, the moon is blue, and Johnny Depp is your midnight pal ). Marilyn had the generalized variety.

The New View Campaign has an interesting way to conceptualize women's sexual issues. Rather than focusing on limited diagnostic classifications, they look at the situation more holistically, including both medical and socio-cultural factors. So, using Marilyn as a case study, here's how it works:

1. Sexual Problems due to Sociocultural, Political, or Economic Factors: 

 Being a follower of Freud's (the original father of the vaginal orgasm) probably didn't help Marilyn's sex life much. Traditional psychoanalysis regards the clit as a child's play toy to be put aside when a girl sprouts boobs. At that point, it's time to come like a "real" woman- vaginally. The fact that Marilyn didn't learn to masturbate until she was 36 tells me that she was probably too indoctrinated by a theory (and a clitaphobic culture that denied her sexual reality) to take charge of her sexuality. Most likely, she was too afraid of getting fixated on her clitoris.

Plus, Hollywood  regarded her as a joke. She was seldom given the parts that she desired as an actress, and instead was stuck playing humiliating roles that made her look like a fool. Her sexuality was her meal ticket. And Marilyn, like many women, may have looked at it as a way to get things: love, attention, work, money, fame. In other words, it was a commodity to be traded - not something for herself to be enjoyed.

2. Sexual Problems Relating to Partner and Relationship:


I don't know much about Marilyn's relationships, but with three divorces, it's safe to say that they may not have been very satisfying. She picked extraordinarily successful men who were from very different worlds than her own, which isn't usually a recipe for a harmonious marriage. People tend to do better with partners  like themselves.

3. Sexual Problems due to Psychological Factors: 


Marilyn had a history of sexual abuse, a mentally ill mother, an absentee father, problems with infertility, and three husbands - that's a lot to deal with. She grew up in foster homes and as an adult had problems with depression and substance abuse. Her death was officially ruled a suicide, but Minor didn't believe she killed herself. But that's a whole other kettle of worms.

The fact is feeling like "a candle in the wind", without a strong center, doesn't make it very easy to be sexually authentic. To fully own your sexuality takes tremendous inner strength. And sex is the female Achilles' heel - a weak point that's pushed to the side when issues like relationship stability, or economic security are more important.

I am glad to know that Marilyn didn't die without ever knowing how to orgasm. I sometimes wonder what her life would have been like if she had lived. Would she have won an Oscar, married again, adopted? At least, she would have had some ownership over her sexuality, and maybe that would have empowered her.

Who knows, maybe she would have run for president

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i can see her being splayed and taken. and not achieving
pleasure. why would she? how could she?
poor thing, she was too damn beautiful
to live,

as they say...

thing is:
she was kind of like a feminine christ,
(the last, let us hope) who couldn't
bring the message successfully to the masses,
like jc...

hers? "sex is dreeeammmy, gals."

so now there is mad men.

and playboy with endless recurring images of norma jean.



all is well on the "last frontier.."
we shall "land a man on the moon within the decade"
ha
i can see her being splayed and taken. and not achieving
pleasure. why would she? how could she?
poor thing, she was too damn beautiful
to live,

as they say...

thing is:
she was kind of like a feminine christ,
(the last, let us hope) who couldn't
bring the message successfully to the masses,
like jc...

hers? "sex is dreeeammmy, gals."

so now there is mad men.

and playboy with endless recurring images of norma jean.



all is well on the "last frontier.."
we shall "land a man on the moon within the decade"
ha
i can see her being splayed and taken. and not achieving
pleasure. why would she? how could she?
poor thing, she was too damn beautiful
to live,

as they say...

thing is:
she was kind of like a feminine christ,
(the last, let us hope) who couldn't
bring the message successfully to the masses,
like jc...

hers? "sex is dreeeammmy, gals."

so now there is mad men.

and playboy with endless recurring images of norma jean.



all is well on the "last frontier.."
we shall "land a man on the moon within the decade"
ha
darnit, open salon ate my carefully written comment.
anyway, bittersweet post, sweet because its well written and interesting, but a little bitter because you're obviously highly intelligent and literate/articulate yet post so rarely.... =(
ok, I think youve really nailed the irony of marilyn not being able to enjoy sex. yeah, our culture is pretty screwed up sometimes, so to speak, wink.
but, I think you blame a little too much on culture. once marylin took more responsibility for her own orgasm, sort of "owned it" she pulled it off pretty quickly. I think you dont focus at all on the passivity and reactivity of her personality. her own choices played a role. think about the word "externalization" and what it means in her case, and possibly-- in yours. Im fully supportive of your goal of helping women experience orgasms but theres a limit to how much can be pinned on a dysfunctional society....
my other thought on this was that the material certainly does sound genuine/authentic, its very plausible.
Im really surprised I havent read about this in the tabloids yet though, it seems like perfect tabloid fodder.
youve scooped the bigshots and this really deserves EP.
externalization aint no good for a gal trying to get laid
good & hard.

joe dimaggio? mailer?
ach, my two least favorite players are now
pretty much destroyed.

ha
Hi James M. Emmerling and vzn, I am afraid being spayed and taken is part of the problem. I think far better for a woman to take some responsibility for her pleasure. Furthermore, most women don't climax just from penetration alone. I actually read several years ago that MM was anorgasmic in Natalie Angier's book Woman. So, I was surfing one day and came across the links I submitted. The story was in the Los Angeles Times at one point.
hi LL. actually it makes perfects sense in some ways-- hollywood is the packaging of *illusion*. there are many other cases of stars that had very dysfunctional backgrounds or lives, or who were not what they portrayed themselves to be, who were much different than their "sexy" images, both males and females. marilyn is definitely an excellent case study of the 20th century but I think there are some new icons for the 21st. look at the women who are in the media. they have very healthy attitudes about sex & seem pretty fulfilled overall, in charge.... what are the current role models and what are their messages? it seems most women stars are sex positive. I am thinking of eg jennifer lopez. now lady gaga is an interesting current case study. she's said she doesnt like to be in relationships.... her music has some dark sides on that.... eg "bad romance".....
Hi vzn,

You are very right. With most media figures, one never knows what kind of person he or she really is - much less what kind of sex life he or she had. Most media figures are subject to a huge degree of spin control that is less successful now than in earlier times. I remember as a teenager loving the film Gone With the Wind. I thought Clark Gable was really hot. Until, I read in a few biographies that he was a really, really, bad lover.
hm.

you say,
"To fully own your sexuality takes tremendous inner strength.

And sex is the female Achilles' heel -
a weak point that's pushed to the side
when issues like relationship stability,
or economic security are more important."

But it has been my experience that a woman who is unfulfilled
(or a man..that is another discussion..)
will make these important things like emotional and
economic
security
very nearly impossible for the poor guy who
is not up to his male duties.

In subtle ways.

A man who is sexually impotent is a boiling volcano of rage.
A woman? Tell us true...please.... :-)
hm.

you say,
"To fully own your sexuality takes tremendous inner strength.

And sex is the female Achilles' heel -
a weak point that's pushed to the side
when issues like relationship stability,
or economic security are more important."

But it has been my experience that a woman who is unfulfilled
(or a man..that is another discussion..)
will make these important things like emotional and
economic
security
very nearly impossible for the poor guy who
is not up to his male duties.

In subtle ways.

A man who is sexually impotent is a boiling volcano of rage.
A woman? Tell us true...please.... :-)
I just got through researching the prostitutes in the red light district in Bombay. While they were a world apart from Marilyn Monroe financially, in some ways they were very close. One of my theories was that the prostitutes in India were made into their own caste or separate group forever blocked from gaining access from the regular world. Plus, once they begin to exchange their sexual self for objects or money it in a way takes away the last bit of agency a woman has left and that is of her sexual self. Locked in a world apart from others when they feel that men only see them as a toy and not a person. It would have to be hard to gain any kind of emotional or physical pleasure out of the act, especially that of an orgasm. When doing the act of sex in order to gain objects or money would be the only way I can understand why a woman would fake an orgams. But, I will read your other blog tomorrow.

I am beginning to read Camille Paglia and Focault a little more. Many of the Indian Feminists spoke of Focault but I am wondering if I can use Camille in any of my further studies on prostitures.

Thank-you for posting such a wonderful blog and sharing it with us.
Frankly, I can think of a number of reasons for a woman to fake an orgasm that are completely unrelated to money. I once had a girlfriend tell me that her abusive ex-husband went off on her if she didn't pretend to come. There are other reasons as well.
Happy Birthday James M. Emmerling!