A retired pastor could be Sarah Palin's undoing
I just spent the evening having dinner with Alaska's most influential bloggers, a former Anchorage radio talk show host, friends and a video team from the U.K.
Most importantly, I met a man I've revered for 14 years, retired Valley Baptist Pastor Howard Bess. Howard is the man who wrote the book, "Pastor, I Am Gay"...the book Sarah Palin specifically targeted to be removed from the Wasilla library.
(I respected him long before that. He was one of the only church leaders in 1993 to support the Ordinance in Anchorage to add "sexual orientation" to the protected classes in Municipal employment. It's what made him and his book a target in the first place.)
I happened to meet the U.K. film crew at the women's rally and they took an interest in me as a blogger When I was invited to this dinner I asked our host if they could come as well. He said yes.
I watched and participated tonight while this U.K. film crew got Howard's story on video. Since the journalist from Salon.com couldn't come and the reporter from "The Nation" had to leave (the folks who were the reason for the gathering) it would have been a missed opportunity to really get this story out had it not been my "chance" encounter with this quirky film crew.
There are no coincidences.
There was something really powerful about watching Howard speak in simple terms about the threats, intimidation and his eventual forced retirement and his church's excommunication from the American Baptists over his stances on LGBT issues and that book.
It's easy to forget how frightening truth in the form of the written word can be to those who are truth's enemies. It's also easy to forget that while our countrymen and women fought and died for over 200 years to protect our access to that truth, our friends in the U.K. did the same centuries before us.
Listening to the film crew, they are quite literally terrified by the thought of someone like Sarah Palin being in the White House only a heartbeat away from becoming the "Leader of the Free World." Sadly, the U.K. seems more terrified than most in the U.S.
I was glad that David Talbot of Salon.com (the other reporter who was supposed to come to the dinner) got his interview with Howard Bess and he did a great job. However, I think that the story will be much more powerful on film. This ordinary-looking plain-speaking man and his wonderful wife are heroes because they believe that God loves everyone equally and worshipping Him in ANY church is a right as children of God.
They show every Christian and any other religious person the true meaning of the words "Love Won Out."
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Is it just me, or are you as immature and pathetic as Palin for resorting to name calling. Seriously, are you 7 and throwing a tantrum? Your entire dialogue is completely immature and without merit. If your going to post something, post valid argumentative facts. "fat ugly feminist" would be no different than calling you a piece of useless white trash... which would be a fair assumption in describing you based on your name and comment. Governor Palin put herself out there for the world to Judge, and continues to do so. She should "shut up and govern" rather than grandstand in the media and cry over her portrayed ignorance. She's a joke to Republicans and women. She's desperate for attention and is doing whatever it takes to get it. She should put parenting before politics.. maybe then her underage daughter would NOT have had unprotected sex. And she put her kids out there. There were very few photos of her and her children inthe media before VP candidacy, but the moment her name hit the ballot, she threw them in the lime light. can you say double standards?? Where I come from... people call her tyrant and public grandstanding... "sore looser"... and we call it like we see it.
And thanks for coming here. It's nice to meetcha!
~ Connie
I can see gay people from my house!!
And you use Sarah's little boy to hurt her as your best weapon at lashing out in her direction - sick. If you think this was okay, your morals are truly screwed up. You have a sick sense of humor that you just shared with the entire USA on behalf of the democratic party - it certainly makes joining the democratic party appealing when they use infants in such a vulgar manner.
Congratulations, I'm sure every democrat in the USA is proud of you and how you've made democrats look like idiotic demons who go after children when they can't get what they want the appropriate way! And you've backed every Republican who thinks democrats will use whatever means to reach their goal - including smearing infants and children.
If you go after a child or use a child to smear someone else, you have hit the heart of every mother in America. Be wary, lady. Mothers have power even politicians can't fully comprehend... Sarah Palin, if you're reading this PLEASE appeal to the mothers across the USA and ask that they call their representatives to put a stop to the badgering of your children - and any child who has political parents. We'll stand by you if you can get the ball rolling. Enough IS enough...
Sometimes, when nothing is happening and I have free time, I like to click on posts that look controversial and watch the trolls 'splode.
Welcome to Open Salon. Nice splash. Ignore the ad hominen attacks and dare to say what's on your mind. :-D
voicegal
June 25, 2009 *
Dont worry, voicegal.
Judging by the appearance of the fat pig I reckon she has a hide that could be used for the soles of work boots.
Probably will be, too...when the first decent Alaskan come across her in the open.
Hats off to your excellent journalism!
This is one of the most disturbing comments sections I've ever read here.
Linda, I have been to your blog and intend to be a regular reader. You are a skilled writer and gifted analyst, I hope your resolve to expose the truth never waivers. Surely the ugliness of the attacks upon you in the comments here is indicative of the ignorance and miserably low intelligence of those on the other side of this political fence. Let their comments stand, it says much about them and nothing good.
Sometimes I scratch my head and wonder, how can we raise such awful, ignorant thinkers (thinking is being overgenerous) in our country? Not only are them mean but they're pretty ignorant too. I know not everyone can go to college for one reason or another, but some of those aspiring for high office would have been beaten up pretty badly in my junior high school intellectual arena.
Keep on writing Linda! As the "good book" says, the day of judgement is upon us and for Governor "Bail'in" Palin, that might come sooner rather than later!
This is one of the most disturbing comments sections I've ever read here.**
Thank you Jeanette D.
I really want to be noticed and I sincerely believe that attacking a disabled child is a fine way to get that notice.
I am sure you'll agree that as marxist dregs and democrat voters we, and we alone...have the right to slander and assault anyone we want to.
Especially if it's Sarah Palin with her good looks, family values, and disgusting natural love and affection as a parent.
I mean, really; people should be aborting children, not loving them.
And for anyone to become so upset at my depravity that I might get my snout punched is just an awful thought.
It is sooooo upsetting that it makes me want to eat.
Again. And again.
*snort* *snort*
Christian values on parade? Where?
What is in any comment on this subject that suggests Christian values?
No, I am not a Christian, and it does not matter.
What I see in these comments are a lot of bashing from BOTH sides of the issue, and then finally, someone steps up and tags Christians.
Tad bit hypocritical of this Blog to say the least.
But, there is ol’ Pastor Bess supporting his beliefs of the left minded set.
Is he a Christian?
They remind me of the fat guys at the beach who wear those "No Fat Chicks" t-shirts.
Trolls: It's because that Palin woman doesn't have a brain in her head. Personally, I like my leaders to be as smart as or smarter than me. I love this country and want to make sure we have some nimble brains at the top. Did you ever ask yourselves why McCain didn't pick a Republican woman with some serious political chops? I did.
and I like how the idiot, MIKE ENGELMAN removed his post! perhaps his eyes opened up to how much of an ignorant wrech he portrayed himslef to be! 1 down.... 7 to go. Keep up the excellent work Celtic Diva....
and I like how the idiot, MIKE ENGELMAN removed his post! perhaps his eyes opened up to how much of an ignorant wrech he portrayed himslef to be! 1 down.... 7 to go. Keep up the excellent work Celtic Diva....
astarfa
July 06, 2009 02:12 PM*
I believe the word you were struggling to spell is: 'wretch.'
And: 'himslef' is not a word in use in the English language... idiot.
But that's OK.
You're a marxist dreg.
A loser.
Feigned intelligence is your trademark.
This said, the fact remains that there is no defence for the BlogHog's having assaulted a disabled child.
This remains in plain evidence throughout this thread as every lame attempt to support that beast centers around inaccurate praise of her non existent writing skills, and a displays a cowardly refusal to meet the challenge of the real reason she is despised on the net and in Alaska.
Simply put, she is a sick hog who assaulted a disabled child and cannot defend what she did.
Moreover...none of her supporters (which I believe after reviewing the similar syntax in every pro-hog post are really no more than her sock puppets) including you (sock puppet AKA BlogHog) can defend what she did.
But do keep posting.
This site is a great source of amusement for real Bloggers, and Conservative Forum members.
It truly is funny to watch a fat ugly hateful bimbo get her site torn up and her imagined 'status' knocked down to an even lower minus 'zero' rating.
Thank you.
You are no Rita Hayworht that is for sure....
You need a hair cut in the worst way.....
And I think you are wasting your time as a writer as you lack any spot of integrity......you are shameful!
AND she, along with every other american... is protected by the 1st Amendment, so get over it... or better yet, keep posting so we can all see how ignorant you really are.
Soooo THANK YOU!
AND she, along with every other american... is protected by the 1st Amendment, so get over it... or better yet, keep posting so we can all see how ignorant you really are.
Soooo THANK YOU!
astarfa
July 06, 2009 05:19 P*
The real issue is that if she was attacking Eddie Burke, then she didn't have call to hit him with an innocent baby. Did she.
(note the lack of a question mark)
What that fat hog did was attack Sarah Palin by desecrating the photo of her child.
There is no dodge that will get that beast past this fact.
And you cannot contrive one.
The best bet for BlogHog is to admit her malice and her poor upbringing as a marxist DNC dreg and then apologise to her social superior, and her child.
The days of democrat vermin striking at Americans are coming to a rapid close, and waddling piles of hog fat like your bimbo friend will no longer have any haven to duck back into.
I know she ducked in here because the site has been greased to facilitate her entry.
So... once again, Thank You...for giving my associates yet another example of how indefensible the BlogHogs conduct is.
It...... was....... her........ opinion, as it is yours to call her a fat hog, as it is mine to assume you are an ignorant a$$. All opinions.
Furthermore, she said what many (MANY) people were thinking, only she had the brass nuggets to speak it. Its pointless to try to explain that to someone who lacks ability to comprehend.
So at this point, I'll be the bigger person to say "ok, lets just agree to disagree" and move on.
Post Script:
you know what they say about "opinions"... they are like A$$holes, we all have them, AND we all have the right to use them.... some are based on facts, some arent. The fact is, Eddie Burke was and is so far up Palins sphincter we cannot decipher her real sh!t from the bull
sh!t (aka EBsh!t).
It...... was....... her........ opinion, as it is yours to call her a fat hog, as it is mine to assume you are an ignorant a$$. All opinions.
Furthermore, she said what many (MANY) people were thinking, only she had the brass nuggets to speak it. Its pointless to try to explain that to someone who lacks ability to comprehend.
So at this point, I'll be the bigger person to say "ok, lets just agree to disagree" and move on.
Post Script:
you know what they say about "opinions"... they are like A$$holes, we all have them, AND we all have the right to use them.... some are based on facts, some arent. The fact is, Eddie Burke was and is so far up Palins sphincter we cannot decipher her real sh!t from the bull
sh!t (aka EBsh!t).
astarfa
July 07, 2009 04:26 PM*
This doesn't cut it either, (BlogHog).
However, I must observe that you made a fine attempt to drag the issue sideways.
The fact remains, though, that your attack on Palin's child was done because you can't get over Palin being better than every sick thing you are.
And attacking Palin's child was your marxist DNC way of attacking Palin.
Burke is real and alive...and available for squaring off with.
But you, you sick marxist, didn't do that.
And you didn't do that, because none of this was about Burke.
It was about your sick marxist DNC hatred of Sarah Palin.
Here:
Case in point- You are IMHO a despicable piece of shite.
All of America knows that. The marxist DNC officials who sponsor your marxist DNC blog and feed you material (it's clear in reading your own trash and in this dialog with you that you lack the intelligence and organisational skills to be a writer) are IMHO despicable pieces of shite, as well.
And your own party leader, marxist b. Hussein obama is a despicable piece of shite IMHO who stood by and said nothing while employees of AIG whose names and addresses had been made available despite their earnest pleas for protection...were stalked by Brown Shirt ACORN members, and given death threats by persons yet unknown that included such commentary as: 'We'll get your kids.'
It is proper and fair that any decent American should despise the lot of you and tell you to your hateful faces that you are pieces of shite.
It is proper that all of you should be disrespected and challenged for the hate and the threat of violence you like to engage in.
It is proper that every decent woman in America and especially those who have disadvantaged children should despise and ridicule your hateful marxist DNC self for attacking Sarah's child.
And I must say that if I saw you getting your fat arse stomped for what you did...I'd not raise a protest. I'd just paraphrase your marxist leader and say: "I do not with the BlogHog.'
(heh)
However...and pay attention here...no one is going after YOUR child. And the reason for this; is intellectual and moral superiority.
Values that you do not comprehend, let alone possess.
So don't even try to make your sock puppet defence that disliking any adult is a license to assault a child.
That isn't a defence. It's an idiots lame attempt to deny the truth and blame someone else (Burke, in your case) for the evil that was done.
You had a choice, BlogHog.
You could have contested with Burke.
You should, in fact, have contested with Burke.
But true to a typical marxist DNC member, you are a terrorist on every level, and hurting innocents who cannot defend themselves is what you prefer.
ahhh, bingo!
I said my peace (and piece). I agree to disagree (with you). Lets toast to Palin quitting and move on.
ahhh, bingo!
I said my peace (and piece). I agree to disagree (with you). Lets toast to Palin quitting and move on.*
'Marxist' is an entirely accurate description of the DNC platform.
As for carrying hate, I don't see anyone but marxists bent on hate and assaulting decent Americans.
And with regard to that, I should like to point out that you still fail entirely to present any reasonable and intelligent argument in defence of the vile assault on Sarah Palin's disadvantaged child.
Of course, there isn't a valid argument in defence of that, and that is exactly the point in evidence throughout the entire exchange on this thread.
As for agreeing to disagree, I will suggest that there is no common ground between you and I that will provide for that.
You and those of your ilk do not belong among Americans.
It was our misplaced decency that afforded you the tolerance that gave you the ability to infest society and inflict injury.
This is changing.
As it must.
:)
icemilkcoffee
July 08, 2009 03:35 AM*
Thank you so much for your requested support.
As a marxist DNC bimbo, I need all the cover I can get.
To be honest, here, what attracts those who currently condemn me is that fact that I am part of a frivolous law suit against Sarah Palin, and everything I am is actually marxist DNC supported.
I have no writing skills and simply cut and paste about 99% of what I am credited for 'writing.'
Even more problematic, is the fact that in the upcoming court proceedings against Sarah...my assault on her child, and the marxist DNC's continued support of me...will play against everything the marxist DNC sent me and others to do.
And, as you know...BadCat has accurately pointed out that my lame 'excuse' that I attacked Sarah Palin's child because I was angry at Burke for supporting Sarah...really isn't an excuse at all.
As BadCat points out in his commentary (which is better structured than the shite I write) any adult who had a problem with Burke...would have addressed Burke.
And attacking Sarah Palins child is a dead give away that my real hate is directed against Sarah...and that I am such a low classed hog, that I would attack her disabled child just to get at her.
I do very much need all the help I can get to drag BadCats commentary sideways and out shout his accusations against me, so as to avoid the exposure of what a fat piece of malicious marxist DNC shite I am.
Basically, my life sucks.
Alaskans hate me, my blog is a joke on the internet...and if I lose any more stature, I swear I don't know where my next meals will come from...... and you know how much I love to eat.
I just spent the evening having dinner with Alaska's most influential bloggers, a former Anchorage radio talk show host, friends and a video team from the U.K.
***Why am I not surprised that food is the first thing you mention?
(And a whole evening dedicated to it.)
Most importantly, I met a man I've revered for 14 years, retired Valley Baptist Pastor Howard Bess. Howard is the man who wrote the book, "Pastor, I Am Gay"...the book Sarah Palin specifically targeted to be removed from the Wasilla library.
***Good move on Sarah's part. Homosexuality isn't condoned in scripture. But more importantly, every so called 'scientific study' attempting to prove that homosexuality is genetic...has been debunked. Homosexuality is not a skin colour, a mental or physical handicap...or any other condition that currently fits into 'minority' classification.
Moreover, the claim by homosexuals that their deviant choice is a civil rights issue really pisses off the blacks in this nation who could tell them a thing or two about real civil rights issues, and are imminently qualified to say that their struggle was real...while the 'struggle' of homosexuals is contrived.
(I respected him long before that. He was one of the only church leaders in 1993 to support the Ordinance in Anchorage to add "sexual orientation" to the protected classes in Municipal employment. It's what made him and his book a target in the first place.)
***In truth, what he attempted is what got him fairly challenged...and fairly defeated.
Sexual deviance, and the inherent compulsion homosexuals have to display their deviance to those who do not practise or condone it, is IMHO the sexual exhibitionist/predator thrill at the root of their 'fight' against normal society.
In homosexual protest rallies one can easily view public sexual conduct that would get any straight persons arrested for lewd and lascivious conduct, and, or, indecent exposure.
And it should get the homosexuals arrested, as well as result in a legal challenge to the authorities issuing the protest permits, and the police assigned and directed as to how to keep order.
The homosexuals know better than to do what they do at a rally.
The officials granting them permits have a responsibility to enforce the law, and the law enforcement officers assigned to keep order have a responsibility to challenge officials who order them not to enforce the law.
I happened to meet the U.K. film crew at the women's rally and they took an interest in me as a blogger When I was invited to this dinner I asked our host if they could come as well. He said yes.
***There goes the dinner reference again.
Took an interest in you as a blogger, huh?
Amazed by your eating prowess, or do they find you a useful idiot, as do your marxist DNC handlers.
(This is not really a question.)
I watched and participated tonight while this U.K. film crew got Howard's story on video. Since the journalist from Salon.com couldn't come and the reporter from "The Nation" had to leave (the folks who were the reason for the gathering) it would have been a missed opportunity to really get this story out had it not been my "chance" encounter with this quirky film crew.
There are no coincidences.
***So, uh...you're trying to imply that 'divine intervention' is what lead to this crappy piece of writing on your part?
How amusing.
I mean, providence must hate you to have left this bit of propaganda presentation in your incompetent hands.
Perhaps you should meditate, or become comatose on drugs, or whatever it is that a marxist DNC dreg does to get close to 'god' and ask why you cant be a food critic. (heh)
There was something really powerful about watching Howard speak in simple terms about the threats, intimidation and his eventual forced retirement and his church's excommunication from the American Baptists over his stances on LGBT issues and that book.
***Why do I think that these 'threats' were nothing like what the Chimp in Chief incites the ACORN goons and Union members to?
And why do I think these 'threats' and whatever abuses the guy might have lied about...pale in the face of what the marxist DNC licenses you to do to; oh, lets say...children?
It's easy to forget how frightening truth in the form of the written word can be to those who are truth's enemies. It's also easy to forget that while our countrymen and women fought and died for over 200 years to protect our access to that truth, our friends in the U.K. did the same centuries before us.
***You certainly ought to be an authority on THIS topic.
Sarah Palin frightens you and your handlers quite a bit.
Her innocent children frighten you, too.
And what, exactly, was all this fighting and dying about, BlogHog?
Some underground homosexual constitution?
The right of homosexuals to abuse free citizens who simply do not choose to practise homosexuality, or have it taught to their children?
Do tell.
(if you can manage it in between those large gulps of food.)
Listening to the film crew, they are quite literally terrified by the thought of someone like Sarah Palin being in the White House only a heartbeat away from becoming the "Leader of the Free World." Sadly, the U.K. seems more terrified than most in the U.S.
***Is she as frightening as a man who worries about Jews building a house...and has no concern at all about Iranians building a nuke?
As frightening as a man whose head of Homeland Security calls those with family values and a love of the Us constitution...'terrorists?'
As frighting as a man who approves of the names and addresses of AIG employees bein made public so that ACORN members can stalk them, and so they can be given death threats?
As frightening as a man who steals hard earned retirement stocks from good people (who also reported death threats after he said he 'didn't stand with them') and gives those stocks to his Union thugs?
Anywhere near as frightening as a no talent triple chinned slanderer and child abuser who is sponsored by the marxist DNC?
I was glad that David Talbot of Salon.com (the other reporter who was supposed to come to the dinner) got his interview with Howard Bess and he did a great job. However, I think that the story will be much more powerful on film. This ordinary-looking plain-speaking man and his wonderful wife are heroes because they believe that God loves everyone equally and worshipping Him in ANY church is a right as children of God.
***What an interesting god he has contrived as the head of his homosexual cause.
No personal responsibility for ones actions.
No requirements of basic common sense and decency.
The right to demand that others compensate for your low conduct and make you feel good about yourself.
The right to invade those groups of people who have never sought to invade anything you have, and really have no desire to associate with you, because their ethics and their values sustain them quite nicely...while yours do not do the same for you.
Basically a god who says; 'Be a creep, and forget that your own circumstances depend largely on your own choices.'
They show every Christian and any other religious person the true meaning of the words "Love Won Out."
***This comment assumes that you have a positive end result to present here.
But you haven't presented any such positive end result.
You have just presented a hatred of Sarah Palin for lawfully removing a pro-homosexual book from it's intended circulation.
And you failed entirely to present the case for the title you gave this crappy piece.
As a 'great' blogger....don't you think you should have at least written a piece that is about the title you gave it?
I mean, feeding frenzy or not, you do have some responsibility to follow a logical progression of thought.
Hell, even with bonus points calculated in on account of your being an idiot marxist DNC dreg and a pseudo intellectual, this piece of yours sucks.