Lisa Solod

Lisa Solod
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DECEMBER 3, 2008 11:48AM

My Mother Has Already Forgotten Thanksgiving

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I had this admittedly crazy idea to fly up north and fly with my mother back down to my small Virginia town so that she could spend a couple of days with me, see my teenaged daughter whom she hasn’t seen since this summer when we went up to celebrate her 80th birthday, see my 21-year-old son whom she hasn’t seen in a few years, and do a small pre- Hanukkah latke thing.  I made all the arrangements, steadied myself for the stress I knew would come fwith the visit.  And then, my sister called and told me my mother had, just three days after the event, already forgotten she had been to her house for Thanksgiving. 

“She seemed to know she had been somewhere,” my sister said, “but she wasn’t sure. I think maybe we had better rethink the plan of her coming down to see you.”

 

The plan which my sister up north had been all for, but my sister who lives a half hour away from me had thought was completely nuts.

 

“Mom’s way too out of it to make the trip,” she had said. “Not a good idea.  Besides, it will drive you nuts.”

 

Yes, but.  How else to get in what might be one last visit with my children before her memory goes completely? I could handle the stress.  I knew it would be difficult and painful for me.  But now, now I had to wonder:  would it be too hard on Mom?

 

Not quite three years ago, my sisters and I all but tricked my mother into rehab to finally dry her out after more than thirty years of steady drinking, only to find that it wasn’t her drinking that was responsible for her memory problems at all.  Or not solely.  She had Alzheimer’s. And once Mom got the diagnosis she decided to start drinking again. Who could blame her? 

 

Within three weeks we found her a great assisted living place with a memory unit attached, cleaned out, staged and sold her house, and her life as she had known it was over.  Even though she’s on Aricept and has been advised by her doctors not to drink, the white wine that has been her best friend for so many years continues to provide her comfort as her world narrows even further.

 

And now, a few days after she spent the Thanksgiving holiday with her youngest daughter, son-in-law and grandson, she has no memory of it.

 

Does it make sense for me to take her out of her safe and familiar environment just to see her other two grandchildren for three days when she may well have no memory of that either?  Who am I doing this for, anyway?  What do I hope to accomplish?

 

She is more fragile than ever, even though she manages to keep her voice light and happy during our phone calls.  We have the same conversations each time and I impart the same news about myself, my husband, my children, and even my sisters, whom she may just have spoken to.  When I see her myself, she weeps when I arrive, and weeps when I leave.  When I told her I was coming to get her and bring her down for a visit she sounded wary but excited, but who knows if she even remembers that conversation?  Can I cancel with impunity?  Can I just fly up for one of my solo visits? Is that enough?

 

Which decision will do the least harm?  The most good?

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I'm sure you already know that you are not alone in asking those questions. It's as if some dementia epidemic is sweeping the country. It's impossible to know what she'll remember or forget. We all do our best, I guess, even if it's inadequate.
Get her down to your place or better still visit her with your children. The point is, she deserves to meet you and her grandchildren.
Thanks to you all..... Her doctor basically says it is up to me and what I can handle:)
Oh this is so tough. We have Alzheimer's in our family and I can empathize with your plight. I think your doctor is right: what do *you* feel like doing? She is likely to not remember it so the route that is easiest on you might be the best one for all of you.
Hard question time - and please understand that my bluntness comes from watching family members go through the same thing your mom is going through.

Who is this visit for?

Ask yourself, am I doing this for her or for me? For her or for my children? Because she'd really enjoy the trip and get something out of it, or because it'll alleviate the secret guilt of being happy and normal and going about your life while your mother's memory and personality fragment?

People slipping into dementia still appreciate love. They don't appreciate confusion and chaos and the unfamiliar and the unexpected. If you - in all honesty - picked the latter choice for the questions above, make it easy on her and go up there, solo or with one or both of your children. She may not remember the actual events of going to your house, but the confusion and dislocation and unfamiliarity will linger.
I feel for you. I've experienced this sort of thing with family members. Sometimes a shift in familiar routine or place can make memory issues worse, disorienting the person further. If you can visit, possibly with your kids, make some latkes with her, sing a song, share old photos, revive some family tradition that might be familiar, that might be enough to make her feel the warmth of family.
These are difficult questions. Your mom sounds like early A. She can still carry on a conversation and knows you and loves you and your children. Does not sound like she acts out. Even if it results in no memory for her, I am sure she would love it while it is happening and you can keep the memory. Take pictures and make an album.
But do get her and you and the kids together if you can swing it. It will be good for them too.
Bless you.
Oh Charlie, I am DEFINITELY not doing this out of guilt.... got over that years ago, honest. It is impossible to take the both kids up there with scheduling and stuff and no place good to stay without completely putting my aunt out. She does know who we are at least and can enjoy a moment at the most. I am doing it more for my kids and for one more memory, I think.
I think the most important question you have to ask is not related to what is in your mother's 'best interest', but rather "what would Mom wanted to have happen if she knew this day would come?" Would Mom have said (in a sober moment having a 'what if' conversation with you before Alzheimers kicked in) "by all means grab me and bring me down there, even if it upsets my routine."Or would she have said "I think in that situation it would be best for you and the kids to come visit me."

I used to be a long-term care ombudsman, and dealt with this dilemma all the time. I have had times when staff/administration at facilities have told the families of residents that they could no longer take Mom or Dad out in the community any more because they were just too agitated after a trip shopping and to have lunch someplace nice with the family. Sometimes the resident remember the trip very fondly, but not the agitation. Sometimes the resident did not remember the trip at all, or only vaguely. Sometimes the family reported that Mom or Dad seemed to always have a wonderful time on the trip to the outside. Sometimes they said they, too, noticed the agitation. I always asked the questions I asked you above in order to help come to a resolution.

So what would your Mom have wanted? Do you think she will have a good time? It doesn't matter if she forgets that she had that good time when someone asks her about it. We do not know yet clinically how memory works, but my heart tells me that it would be wise to hope that the Alzheimers and dementia patient still writes down memory, but that the real problem -- at least in the early and intermediate stages -- is accessing those memories. (I now care 24/7 for my own mother who has dementia). Maybe she'll enjoy the visit and not be able to recall it when you phone her in the evening a week later. But maybe when you mention it, her subconcious will access the fond memory while she's dreaming??

The toughest call of all might be believing that, even though slightly, moderately, or even severely compromised as our loved ones decision-making may be, sometimes Mom will give you the best advice of all.
Oh Lovely Catamitebastard! Here's the thing (and it's a wonderful question!!), when she was whole, my mother was a right royal bitch. Selfish and self absorbed. She would have said "You come visit me!" (Which we did, most of the time. She would fly down for flying quick weekends, all she could spare, and expect to be entertained.) When she got ill, oddly enough (and I have read that it happens in the odd Alzheimer's case, she got,well, nice. Sweet. Much easier to be with. Loving and appreciative. So, in her now state she would say: "Come get me and bring me down. I want to see my grandkids and you, my wonderful oldest daughter who I (now) adore more than life itself." Ironic as it is, I am honoring the wish of her now self by going and getting her disrupting her routine, and bringing her down. . .
(God willing all of her old and new selves and what has come of it will be fictionalized in my soon to be completed novel:))
There's your answer. Go get your Mom, ask her the best way to cook those latkes, even if you don't let her near the hot stove, and tell the kids that yes, they have to dress up for the visit. Buy her a really great white wine. If she was previously self-centered, it's very possible that during that sober, what-if conversation, she would have answered "By all means keep acceeding to my wishes, even if I did get nicer!"

Some Alzheimers patients do indeed get 'nicer' and 'sweeter' as a result of the disease. Just consider it a blessing and get on with accreting good memories to counteract anything historical your angry with which they no longer have an accounting of. My mom used to be nice, now she is a whirling dervish of invective and rage, but I just honor that because, what are you gonna' do? One of the things about Alzheimer's is that it reduces a person's ability to not avoid doing things our higher minds would normally preclude. In your Mom's case, it's being nice. In my Mom's, it's screaming at the neighbors, the dog, the cat, the t.v., the blue jays burying acorns in the garden. In a rest home, maybe it's retired Pastor Jones removing his pants and running through the courtyard, or Alice stealing underwear everytime she hears her next-door neighbor leave her room. It's an odd kind of three-ness where the concept of rules no longer applies.

My grandmother, whom I also cared for during Alzheimer's, was a total crank. She was increasingly sweeter the worse her disease-state progressed. But boy, if she went febrile, watch out! And her memories -- or significant portions of it that she had trouble normally accessing -- would just roll out of her, until the fever broke.

Enjoy your time with Mom. Make sure the kids do, too. Because SHE will, even if she forgets.
Yes, Catamite.... even though she cannot be left along for one single moment (I have already spent much time with her so that I know) and is incredibly scattered and needy and must be reminded to eat and we have the same conversations over and over, she does, for the first time ever, say I love you and thanks her daughters (for the first time ever) for everything we do... so we try and water the wine and postpone the first glass until at least noon, take lots of photos and keep her busy until she falls asleep. . . which is what I shall do for the days she is with me. I worry about the flights and the disorientation and the stress of it all. But I will hunker down and remember to remember that it will all be just 7 days out of my life and that soon she will remember nothing, not even me, and that all of this is just one long protracted good bye, which in effect, we said when she was first diagnosed and her old life was over.

I admire your courage for doing it 24/7. I don't know if I could. Peace.
A must read for any of us who have taken on the role of "caregiver". My nearly 81 year old mother moved into my completely furnished home about 16 months ago. SHe brought with her every pen (that I can remember from my childhood); I had no idea she had never met a rubber band she couldn't keep. 437 CARTONS (like those Russian dolls with endless dolls inside of each of them), I was faced with a lifetime of disconnected collecting. SHe can recite Nabokov chapter and verse and tell with infinite detail the events of 1956; as she walks down the hall and confronts me with two arms full of groceries, it is suddenly like a freeze frame of a basketball game. At least there is no cantaloupe cooking in the microwave (as of yet). I am her step-doctor, confidante, caregiver and banker. I am exhausted.
The travel/change of locale is disruptive - to everyone. As a caregiver, you become familiar (almost proprietary) about the quirks and "isms" that are "normal". Taking her out of that, is disruptive to everyone - you seemingly start all over again. We should really consider doing a separate section on OS just about people like ourselves who face this daunting and often thankless task every day.
Thank YOU for giving me a place/a post to think that I am "normal" in these unusually cruel circumstances. I am a non-breeder (excuse the term) and I often wonder where I might end up and in whose care if this horrible illness chooses me as its victim. Perhaps this is the reason I choose to be the caregiver. Insurance that someone might care enough about me if I face the same fate...

We are ALL here for you.

Let's keep an open dialogue. It's tough, it's dirty, painful and tiresome. At least, we have each other........

Bravo for being so brave.
My take on this is limited, I must say, to my narrow experiences with the subject. My grandfather suffered from Alzheimer's before his death (nearly ten years ago, now), so I don't remember him before the memory loss. What I do know is that the details that have stuck with me over the years are those simple moments where he snapped out of the fog (that's the best way to describe it, I think), and the wit and love that he had deep down returned.

If you can handle it, it would definitely be worth visiting and maybe even bringing her to visit you, so that you and your children can have the memories of those moments.
For Cartouche:

When we cleaned out my mother's house, we found she had kept EVERYTHING. Every card we had sent her, every magazine, every Sunday New York Times magazine, receipts for things she no longer owned, estimates for catering for our weddings (twenty something years ago), files and files of articles marked "to read some day," and so on... We had bags and bags and bags of trash. It was mind boggling. I have an essay about it coming out in an anthology this spring. It took my sisters and I days and days to get the house ready for sale. And yet, the house from all appearances looked fine (we had been visiting it for years (it was the closets and basement and nooks and crannies and file cabinets and so on that were stuffed chock full). And the tchotckes! Oy. And photographs and duplicates, boxes and boxes full. So I know, I know.
She likely does have a memory of the last visit, even though she can't talk about it. It's in a file somewhere but the processor just can't find it. If you can do this, I think you should. Soon enough you won't be able to. Is there a familiar blanket in your house? Photos of her old house? The familiar is very comforting to her. I cared for my in laws. My brother-in-law brought over DVD's of "Sanford and Son" and "The Three Stooges." I hated it, but they loved it. Their facial expressions went from blank stares to animated expressions. And by all means, bring on the wine, in reasonable doses. Don't be afraid of this. If you make a bad decision, you will figure it out and not make it again. God gave her care to you and God doesn't make mistakes.
Hi Lisa, my father is slipping away from us with Alzheimer's. I have an 8-year old and it's tough for him to see his Grandpa in such decline. I didn't lost my grandfather until I was in my thirties, so I feel so badly for the kids involved. I think it's a great thing you did and should be applauded. Somewhere deep in her mind, you're mother knows what you did. And your kids will never forget.

Kudos,
Greg
If she is still able to recongnize you and your family even for just the present moment, then I would bring her for a brief visit. If she is able to draw some sense of pleasure in the moment, then why would you want to deny her that small gift? It may not be how we would prefer it, but it might be the only gift she is able to receive now.

If the trip would not be physically demanding for her or emotionally difficult for her, then take the extra steps you'll need to take and bring her for a visit.
Having sadly also experienced a parent with Alzheimer's, the best advice I can give is to do what will incur the least amount of guilt, stress, etc. on yourself and your children. Sit down and really evaluate your motives and then let common sense be your guide. I didn't feel it was necessary for my children to visit their grandfather in the nursing home at some point since he wasn't affected either way, while they were quite upset by the ordeal.
In my experience, the realization that a parent's dementia is advancing seems to hit adult children in a series of waves, none of which are easily endured. You are totally in the right to be asking the question, "would it be too hard for Mom?" Changes in routine or surroundings are especially difficult for dementia patients to handle. In many ways they're like autistic children: Their communicative abilities seem to diminish along with their short-term memory. I hope you will continue to write about your mother's illness and wish you the best as this journey unfolds.
If a painter suddenly lost the physical ability to paint, we would not stop asking the artist about how he SEES the world. My mother-in-law is losing the physical ability to RECALL, but she has an increased capacity to BE, if only in the moment. Any moment, among loving family, can be a marvel. That is why I have encouraged my wife to get her mom and bring her for a visit.
I do not in the least bit care what anyone reading this reply to YOU may think about my response. To YOU I say: TAKE CARE OF YOURSELF !

When I read your comments about how your mother "used to be" I knew I was reading the words of a sad co-experiencer of endless years of an extremely difficult mother, if not unwell and certainly unpleasant, often impossible to understand .

Your OWN mental health and that of your children and grandchildren is ALL that matters now... read that sentence again! Repeat it out loud!

She will never ask forgiveness much less beg for it...she will never admit the hurt and damage she has done...actually at this point she can not.

My brothers and I not only "have been there" we ARE there! The day to day stress of it all caused our father's death! He just gave up.

It has taken us three and a half years to see that he made his choices and was co-dependent to a great extent , always trying for peace and "calm" with her the 60 years they were married... Yes, "Wow!" is right....a lesser or perhaps a stronger? partner would have left long before.
My brothers and I finally decided not to let our own health be compromised ...it wasn't overnight nor was it easy...we "co-incidently" each had a health crisis around the time period that showed us what was happening!
So now she is visited when WE are up to it and when WE can manage it..she is fairly local so that helps but we no longer revolve our lives around HER!

You will not get the personal gratification from her that you need, and you will feel worse. You are NOT a bad daughter. That is not even in the calculus here.

Be WELL, look to the future! Hold your children and grandchildren close! Teach sobriety and good relationships by example!

You are a survivor , take yourself OUT of the sufferer role into which you have been put by HER CHOICES long ago! YOU ARE FREE!
That deserves a Hallelulia !
Thanks scared grandma... I am already there. Honest. No expectations from her at this point and no desire for her forgiveness. I know she cannot give it or ask for it. I only want to bring her down for one last visit while she may still be able. I believe my motives are righteous. I know it will be difficult for all but I think we can do it. I have a little over a week to make the final decision but leaning toward doing it. I appreciate all the input from all of you and will report back:)
How many adages can I think of that bestow the best of what a Mother brings out in us? I remember once reading in a Family Circle Magazine, the last page is sort of a freelancers assignment. The women stated the typical triumphs that she overcame as she was a daughter, and how easy it is to not appreciate our mothers. But, when she became a parent her self, she noted the special bond we have with our children. That just brings back the exact duplication of who we are to our children, and who we are to our parents. It is easy to roll into our new patterns, and kind of overlook those truly caring qualitys, especially after a couple of teen episodes, but as they say, "this too shall pass". But in retro-spect, parents give us there all, as we do with our children. The difference is we can see the reflection, our children have yet to come full circle, and understand in depth the committment and dedication that we have put into our children, whether they are born into our lives, are shaped and molded by us as parents, it is certainly not an easy task, ask any of us, who are still in the parenting mode, waiting up at night, on and on with daily things, the must do's, other specific training, attitude, it is really all work. Until one day, we just take off, that is the proof, that all the hard work paid off, we are strong, confident adults willing to take risks, willing confront lifes challenges, those are all ways in which parenting is successful. In becoming a parent, we lose a sense of self, the new self is really the child, and that is one strange reason, I might like to almost think that dementia is like a way of that person, touching what is left of the "me" that once was.
Focus on her present. If she had a good time at Thanksgiving, that matters more than whether she remembers the occasion. There's a big difference between feeling good but not remembering why, and feeling bad but not remembering why. The latter state is awful; spare her if you can.