Lisa Solod

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MAY 12, 2010 9:39AM

WHY Are We in Afghanistan? And Other Pressing Questions

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                Bill Press had a discussion on the “war” in Afghanistan on his radio show this morning.  I put the word “war” in quotation marks because it remains difficult for me to decide whether this is an actual war or another incursion/occupation based on our idea of promoting democracy around the world—even in places that aren’t receptive to it.  His point was: Where is the media coverage?  Where is the information about the war that we can actually use?  Why is the media moving from one event/disaster/news story to another, once again without giving the American public anything to hang our hat on?

                Point taken.

                I, for one, am finally and perhaps irrevocably suffering from information, or perhaps lack of information, overload.  An earthquake here, another there;  the huge oil spill in the Gulf,  health care, a Supreme Court fight, upcoming elections, Iraq, Afghanistan, jobs, the continue recession and housing crisis….it all seems to seamlessly (if problematically) meld into one unending story of doom and destruction.

                No wonder the American public is suffering from a collective Attention Deficit Disorder.  The media, in its inimitable fashion, perpetuates it, and it takes a stronger woman than I to both deflect and absorb all I should deflect and absorb.

                Some of us are just hunkering down and working on our gardens.  There is something  Zen-like about pulling weeds and planting flowers and vegetables, even as we struggle with debt and foreclosure and joblessness and a sort of existential despair that seems never-ending.  And why not?   No matter how often we spin the dials of our radios, flip the channels of our televisions, turn the pages of our newspapers and magazines, and jump from internet site to internet site, the chances that we will really A) find anything we can actually use to either inform us or make us feel more in control and B)feel anything like we have a handle on the issues of the day becomes slimmer and slimmer.

                Even those of us who truly wish to keep up find that the work of keeping up is more work than we can possibly  handle.

                Some of us resign ourselves to just shutting down completely, turning off all sources of “information” save for celebrity rehab and plastic surgery stories, meta posts on writing sites, or bad reality television.  Some of us even eschew those assaults on our consciousness.  A scattered few spend their time trying to meditate their way out of the abyss that is modern society with its overload of, well, nothing much we can either use or understand.

                We know that Afghanistan is a mess we may never fully grasp and that the implications of our sending troops with so little back-up for so very long may well be with us long after our own children, and even our grandchildren, are grown and gone.  We know, despite our best efforts, bombs continue to kill people in Iraq, while the European Union struggles with debt that may dwarf our own and important elections in England will have consequences we can’t even really imagine;  we remain aware that the tourism and fishing industry along the Gulf is on its way to total destruction.  We know that the health care bill is imperfect, at best, and that our Congress seems immobilized.  That hundreds of important bills are languishing  in the Senate and House  and will never see the light of day.  We know that the continued infighting between the right and left is heating and heating up, and that hatred and ugliness is so permeating the airwaves and internet that it sometimes seems that civility is a completely lost cause.

And yet, those of us who write and think and wonder and want to make a difference find it hard to just sit back and give up.  We search and search for information in which to make informed decisions, even as that “information” makes our blood boil and our heads nearly explode.  We wish to remain sanguine but we cannot.  Because  to stop asking the hard questions, to stop trying to stop evil and misinformation means to lose our place at society’s table—something we are loathe, even as we recognize its ultimate futility—to do.

 

I doubt any of us would really wish to go back to the age when our news was spoon-fed to us by a limited number of “experts” who kept us abreast of what was really “good” for us.  The simpler time was never simple at all.  But the explosion that is “information” without context, that is opinion without fact, that has us careening from story to story to story—each with its own limited shelf life—doesn’t seem to offer anything more concrete than ignorance sometimes. In fact, so much ignorance and misinformation is inherent in the information overload that the irony is in escapable.  Parsing what is on offer could, if we let it, become a full-time job, something no one I know can really afford.  There are still the children to raise, the relationships to nurture, and the laundry to do.  Groceries must be purchased, bills must be paid, elderly parents must be attended to, even as we may yearn to retire to a beach (unspoiled, if we can find such a place) with a drink and a novel.

 

I know I am not alone in wanting both more and less: an impossible quest.  How then do we get the information we need to make informed decisions and choices, cut out the distractions posed by Snooki and the Sex and the City ladies, and shoot-em-up movies, and internet snark, and the huge numbers of people who assure us that if we just accept the Christian roots of our nation and turn our lives over to Jesus Christ all will be answered?  How do we even reconcile all those conflicting notions and come out even reasonably sane, never mind reasonably informed?

I have no answer, even as I fight my own inclination to just shut down and turn off.  There must be a way to process what is necessary and jettison the rest but I,for one, despite my desire to do so, have yet to find it.

 

 

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Why are we in Afghanistan? Because the Taliban let al Qaeda use the country as a training base for terrorist who attacked the United States on 9/11. bush the lessor had al Qaeda on the run but then pulled vital troops out to launch his war of revenge on Hussein and let the Taliban regroup and regain power. Now finally after 9 years the job of securing the nation is getting done, making sure the terrorists remain on the run and can't plan the next attack.

Really, it wasn't that long ago that two planes smashed into the WTC.
Hi, Lisa!

"Even those of us who truly wish to keep up find that the work of keeping up is more work than we can possibly handle."

I feel every word you wrote here. It's like you were reading my mind.

It's the lack of truth that bothers me more than just about anything. Does BP really intend to pay for everything without a fight? I doubt it. I feel we are still in Afghanistan to be close to Pakistan where the real problems seem to be, but at what cost and what gain? I can't say. It's all like trying to unravel a tightly wound ball of rubber-bands without breaking any of them.

Sometimes I just want to forget about everything and mind my own business, but how does that solve anything? Conundrum.

This essay should be read by anyone with a brain and some of those without. Great piece of writing!
I personally think we're doomed. Hate to say it, but this kind of mass hypnosis is profound and too multi-layered, too toxic, too sick, too far gone.

I disagree with ocular on this one. We're in Afghanistan for oil and money ultimately. It's greed and megacorporate interests. The war on terror is a farce and distraction...and unbeatable. Follow the money, follow the money.

(I'm one of the gardeners pulling out weeds because I don't know what else to do...yes, it does help!)
1. Lack of decent hotels for the press to hang out in Afghanistan. Put in some an Intercontinental and coverage would pick up.

2. Lack of a foreign press corps. Not too many bloggers want to poke around in a truly dangerous place.

3. The demise of print journalism.

Anyway, we are there because we gave the military a couple of years to mop up, before they get pulled back to the states.

Obama wisely MADE them come up with a plan, timelines, and a budget that involved first a 'surge' and then drawdown. They won't spend a generation talking about how they were winning but stabbed in the back by politicians.
Hey Lisa... good to see you here.

You ask "How do we even reconcile all those conflicting notions and come out even reasonably sane, never mind reasonably informed?"
My answer is... you don't, which seems to your conclusion also.

I'll give you my two cents on Afghanistan though (if you want a whole bucks worth, ask my brother... who disagrees with me btw).
There is no reason for us to be there. We are not the world's police, no matter how un-charming we find the evil Taliban. Osama bin Laden is likely dead and has been for years. The people over there are doing the same thing they have been for thousands of years and will probably do for thousands more if the world doesn't tilt off it's axis. There is nothing to WIN.
However, the military industrial complex (as we were warned by Eisenhower) gets its way. They make a whole lot of moolah on these things. They killed Kennedy for threatening to withdraw from Viet Nam. They thrive on war and don't give a damn about the blood of our children or innocents abroad.
I could go on but you don't want blog length comments I'm sure.
Lisa:

You have posed the question of ignorance/information overload so well that you might very well have been commissioned by me to provide an expression of this problem for the chapter on media in my book in progress that I'm writing right now!

As the sheer quantity of "information," which I put in quotes because a lot of it is rubbish and fabricated facts (e.g., WMD, "death panels," the Birther craziness), has grown, and the opportunities to access that information grown immensely, the people are swimming in data, but drowning in it, much like the US intelligence gatherers are drowning in four times as much as data everyday as is housed in the Library of Congress. Their dilemma of not knowing what to focus on is a mirror in a sense of the dilemma you speak of.

The roots of this crisis of information/disinformation are multiple and a major topic of my chapter in process. Please forgive me for being all too brief here. Let me suggest that the following websites make very good sources. This is not a complete list by any means.

Consortium News
Media Matters
World Can't Wait
Reader Supported News
Truthout.org

Reading these in conjunction with reading a mainstream source such as the New York Times on a daily basis makes for a good combination.
Wow -- you captured something I wrestle with on a daily basis perfectly. Excellent piece.

It's hard when there seems to be more questions than answers running around in my head, and just when I think one question might be solved, another pops us to replace the old one usually on the same subject matter! (Did that make sense?)

I think on a whole, we are a people who like big, definitive, sweeping change and are not programmed to accept incremental steps. The problem then becomes accurate reporting on those incremental steps - not sensationalized commentary which is what the pundits of our day regale for ratings. There will always be a crowed at the controversy but few to the table to do the hard work (Gandhi said something like that in his Autobiography). I think all mom's know the truth behind that sentiment.

For me, I've just had to choose my battles to go in depth with. I am lost to the war in Afghanistan and trust there will be those with their eyes on it. I find where I have expertise and/or talent and focus there, and have to remember something bigger is at work here sometimes.

And, yes, I'm one of those meditative types. ;)
Um, the title was meant to be somewhat rhetorical and metaphorical (as some of you picked up on), re Mailer's Why Are We in Vietnam?
Thanks so much for the comments, though. There is so much going on in the world that getting answers is hard enough as it is, without the general malaise of world-weariness!
"I disagree with ocular on this one. We're in Afghanistan for oil and money ultimately."

I acknowledge your comments but their is neither oil nor money in Afghanistan.
relax, you don't need information to act, because you have no power to act. your anxiety is pointless. you play no role in politics, you probably have very little control over your income.

so relax. look into buddhism, or long-distance running, or wine tasting. buy three puppies and 6 kittens, maybe a canary as well.

but do stop kidding yourself that you are anything but a tax cow, a modern serf. that way lies madness.
Thanks, Dennis. And ooooooooh, Al. Sigh.
To Nervous Eyes:

"As ambassador [to Afghanistan], [Craig] Murray saw the MI5 intelligence reports from the CIA that described the most horrible torture procedures. 'People were raped with broken bottles, children were tortured in front of their parents until they [the parents] signed a confession, people were boiled alive.'

"Amb. Murray reports that the people delivered by CIA flights to Uzbekistan’s torture prisons 'were told to confess to membership in Al Qaeda, … they’d been in training camps in Afghanistan, … they had met Osama bin Laden in person. And the CIA intelligence constantly echoed these themes.'

"Murray also saw the documents that proved that the motivation for US and UK military aggression in Afghanistan had to do with the natural gas deposits in Uzbekistan and Turkmenistan. The Americans wanted a pipeline that bypassed Russia and Iran and went through Afghanistan. To insure this, an invasion was necessary. The idiot American public could be told that the invasion was necessary because of 9/11 and to save them from 'terrorism,' and the utter fools would believe the lie.

“'You’ll see that undoubtedly the US forces are positioned to guard the pipeline route. It’s what it’s about. It’s about money, it’s about energy, it’s not about democracy.'”

From here.

And guess who the consultant was who arranged with then Texas governor George W. Bush the agreements that would give Enron the rights to Uzbekistan’s and Turkmenistan’s natural gas deposits, and to Unocal to develop the trans-Afghanistan pipeline? It was Karzai, the US-imposed “president” of Afghanistan, who has no support in the country except for American bayonets.

“I was absolutely stunned,” says the British ambassador, who thought that he served a moral country that, along with its American ally, had moral integrity. Ambassador Murray learned too much and was fired when he vomited it all up. Murray was dismissed from the UK Foreign Service for his revelations. No doubt on orders from Washington.
We have no idea why we are in Afghanistan. Good post. R
Yes, that's me too, hunkered in the garden. I just can't stand IT anymore.
This is a rant of rants. It cuts so close to my bones I felt an itchiness half way thru, could hardly bear to finish it. Understand: you writing is so effective, I'm saying.
But I am maddened by it all. I have been de-friended by a handful of ultra-leftists here and on FB, some of them people I still like and admire, just for saying the middle east is vastly complex and maybe Weiseltier and John Gray and other writers who criticize Israel but still allow for Israel to exist might be worth reading. The hippie in me sings along still to Universal Soldier and I also understand the real-politik arguments for an Afghan presence, viz a nuclear Pakistan. It's all such a mess.
Thank you for giving this all a voice. I fear too many are trying to relieve their frustration by jumping to Simple, to In or Out, As bad as it gets -- and it will get a lot worse i think, we are not excused from the Thinking table.
Look, my beans have grown a foot this week!
A few months ago, I attended a dinner at which the keynote speaker was Thomas Friedman of the New York Times. He gave an excellent presentation on the current state of the nation. After the talk, there was a Q&A session. One student asked: "What should a student do?" Friedman's response: "Get off Facebook and get into somebody's face." "The problem," he added, "is that our citizenry operates digitally, but politics is still analog."

Sensory overload no longer bothers me. I've decided it will take at least a quarter century to reverse the consequences of the many bad decisions that have been made. And that's assuming we make good decisions here on out.

Okay, enough. I'm off to see Sex and the City.