Lonnie Lazar

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DECEMBER 28, 2009 8:40AM

13 Things About Open Salon

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Espresso cup

Why 13?

Lucky, I guess.

It's also a Jewish thing. You wouldn't understand.

It's ubiquitous, this listmaking that happens at the end of the year, especially among the typing classes. So I do mine.

No one asked me to do this. God forbid, that's the surest way to make sure something won't get done.  Nor is it something I was planning to do anyway.

I'm rolling out this list of 13 things about OS because I can, and because it seems like the right thing to do, under the circumstances.

13.  If you're here, you probably don't need to go elsewhere.

 I don’t read the newspaper and I don't have a TV. Shit, I don't even have a house or apartment of my own these days.

I removed the New York Times as the default home page on my web browser long ago. And while I used to rely on salon.com as my primary source for news, the design changes made over there in the past year or so leave me kind of cold.

But I am up on the latest news. I’m conversant on current events, am hip to what’s going on in politics, the arts, sports, movies, culture, international trends in fashion, design, technology – just about anything anyone would care to chit chat about in line at the bank or the Safeway or the post office, or at a cocktail party or on the bus.

I’m up on all these things because I spend part of most days at Open Salon, where some of the information I get is as fresh and timely and smart as anything I’d find at CNN or FOX or on Twitter -- and often enough it comes with links and pointers to other sources for further information.

Open Salon is as good a portal onto the world today as anything I’ve ever relied on.

12.  There’s great writing here.

The original hook was that this was supposed to be a place for writers. Well, it became so much more than that quite early on.

Sometimes the great writing to be found here gets overlooked. Or perhaps a better image for it is that it stands against the rushing tide of so much else that washes in the open doorway. But world-class writers ply their craft here and that alone, for fellow writers and readers alike, rewards time spent at Open Salon.

11.  This is a great community.

One of the Salon Overlords once infamously denied the value of the community aspect of OS.  Total bullshit. Spend any amount of time here, put the slightest bit of effort into reading and commenting on people’s posts – you don’t even have to post a thing of your own – and I defy you not to make a few friends.

You may not participate at Open Salon for the value of its community; you may not have any interest in being a part of the Open Salon community. But the community is here nonetheless and as communities go, it’s one of the finest I’ve been associated with in nearly half a century.

10.  Weez can haz diversity.

This place is a f*cking zoo.  Doctors, lawyers, Indian Chiefs. Smart people, idiots, Phds and high school dropouts. Flaming liberals and staunch conservatives. Artists, musicians, filmmakers, writers, poets and pundits. Seriously mentally ill people, mildly depressed people, narcissists, and mere attention whores. Celebrities, seriously accomplished people, spambots and trolls. OS has people from all 50 states in the US and from nearly every continent on the globe. There are quite a few Canadians here, too.

I have personally met more than two dozen OS members and am proud to say they and hundreds more like them (whom I’ve yet to meet) are awesomely talented, deep thinking, loving, compassionate people.  Diversity rocks.

9.  It’s ALIVE!

If you’ve not heard of it yet, you’ll soon hear of something called the real time web. OS is on the cutting edge of the next major developmental trend in the evolution of the Internet, which involves real-time communications -- where information flows and conversations happen non-stop -- where sites are updated on an ongoing basis and what we know changes right before our very eyes.

If you’ve never participated in an OS liveblogging event you should try it sometime; it’s an exhilarating experience.

8.  It’s broken.

It pains me deeply to see the degree to which salon media, inc.’s financial difficulties keep the installation of OS’s underlying platform from being developed to its true potential. It could be so much more and the user experience here could be far more intuitive and enjoyable.

I won’t bother to list the many ways in which the OS backend might be improved, but – as just one example – why it’s possible to stay logged into another very popular social media website I won’t name -- for weeks at a time -- without being asked to “sign in,” while OS wants its users to “sign in” several times a day? Well, there’s just really no excuse for it. None.

7.  It really is Open.

No rules, no guidelines, no censorship (from the editors). Users can do and say what they want to here. It’s really quite extraordinary. I’m amazed there’s not more porn.

6.  It’s getting better all the time.

OS isn’t even two years old.  It’s growing steadily and new, interesting people with different talents and different ideas join all the time, and they find their way – make their mark – on the digital record that is the OS archive. 

I miss some people who’ve come and gone, though old friends come back after time off; but I also dig some of the new contributors I’ve found in recent months as much as anyone who’s been here since the beginning.

 5 – 1 I’m leaving blank, sort of like empty boots in the stirrups of a riderless horse at a funeral. 

A handful of OS members were asked by the new editor to create “Best of 2009” posts listing their top five or ten favorite writers or posts from the past year, which is definitely, as far as I can tell, something of a departure from the standpoint of editorial engagement.

I don’t leave these top five spots blank in protest for not having been asked by the new editor to do such a post, nor am I leaving them blank because I’m concerned about the change in direction. Read my bio: Everything changes.

No, I’m leaving them blank for the same reason I wrote this post to begin with: because I can.

Because it’s symbolic of what Open Salon can be and has been up to now: a truly open forum that has borne incredible fruit in a very organic manner.

The best thing on Open Salon might just be at the top of the feed the next time you refresh the page.

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First! This was an extraordinary read, Lonnie fashioned in your own inimitable style. Your observations and commentary from an often completely different perspective is one of the many, many things I love and value about you. Proud to call you friend. I particularly loved the "empty boots in the stirrups of a riderless horse at a funeral."
There are so many writers who have gone unnoticed and unrewarded here who continue to write and serve this community; some have ridden into the sunset. Thank you for honoring them this way.
Apt description -- I had no idea OS was only 2 years old though -- it seems like the old-timers have been here for ages. Of course, I feel like *I've* been here for ages, too (and if you counted the hours, it's probably been a decade). Thanks Lonnie.
Most excellent, Lonnie.
Oh, and I get the thirteen.
"I’m amazed there’s not more porn."

Surprised or disappointed? Me too.
I suppose it is because they siphon off most of the advertising pennies.
a wonderful, engaging post, full of the enthusiasm for this noble, glorious place. A heartfelt rush of words -- we all attempt to do that, you succeed here -- and full of smart POV. I loved this. energizing.
I love the diversity too...I miss the diversity of Philly living in Maine but at least I get diversity via OS without having to travel. When you think of it though, we all must have an underlying commonality - those of us who keep coming here...very good spin on OS with your list and an opportunity for input - your writing always helps put the Open in Salon!
I just loved this piece Lonnie.
It would be so easy to fix so many things here that are broken. it ain't gonna happen for us.
I find more news in blogs than I ever got from the media.
But the changes are coming fast here. I don't know what will happen then, but I don't think it will be for the better.
I just don't.
Good. I was terrified for one moment.
I thought Ya was gonna hum `O Glory!
Then, do a photo-shot of some pizza hut.
Someone in thongs. EP - Thongs to ogle.
dang.
Thank you for this. There are so many great things about OS. It can be frustrating, but the good outweighs the bad.
Nice take on this! Really nice.
Everything you said, including the part about picking top posts for 2009. Rated
Lonnie
When I find myself lost I know I can come here to read and rejuvenate myself in the friendly waters, sometimes catching up with friends, other times discovering writers and artists new and old.
All good points -- especially the last one. You never know what you're going to find here. Any of of those 50,000 people who don't post yet could start tomorrow ... along with the 10,000 who already do. There's always something worth reading; and you know that your own writing is being read. Good combination.
There is a magnetism about OS that you alluded to. I've been pulled back over and over, by both the beautiful and the broken bits. Thanks, Lonnie.
Lonnie, you're the best, and this was a really nice post. Maybe the best of all the year end list posts--truly, a capital post (yes, I'm attempting to bring back "capital" as an adjective in 2010).

In all seriousness though, thanks for keeping in mind what is great about this place. Rock on Lonnie!
Oh, and by the way Lonbud, I am still waiting for you to put up a new video of your music. Seriously dude.
I am not fully awake yet - I thought it said in your tags "edible comments" - I'm all for that.

Great list!

(thumbified)
As usual, a unique, fair and clever take on things. You, sir, are a connector of thoughts, ideas and people.
"Seriously mentally ill people, mildly depressed people, narcissists, and mere attention whores."

Finally I've been mentioned in a list post!
Mm. That’s one good cuppa’ Joe. Leave it to a Bodhisattva to set the record straight.

(Been gone awhile, so I’m not sure if I’ve missed something – but I stay logged in through shutdowns...?)
Thanks Lonnie...this is a great piece..I agree this is an extraordinary forum, not matter its hiccups.
This is simply great, Lonnie! Enjoyed every word, thought and contribution to this world we call home, now and then. It does feel like home most of the time...with the occasional unwanted visitor. That's what filters and the little peek hole in the front door are for.
"...because I can..."

That says it all for me!
Great list, great message, great OS!
Glad you're here.
xoxoxo,
I think this is my favorite list Lonnie. I can always count on you to get to the truth and present honest passionate parsing. It's more than being your friend...I trust you and what you say. Beautifully done Lonbud...thanks
Very nice observations. You've put into words what most of us (except the bots) feel.

P.S. - 13 is meaningful to some other people too (I'm Wiccan). What's the significance to Jews?

PPS - I never have to sign in here. Signed in once on Firefox after installing it, said "save" or "keep" or whatever that line is, and my account is always open when I turn on the computer. I very seldom get a big red ad for the Economist either (95% of them on Regular Salon).

I agree re Regular Salon's layout now - such a mess. Supposed to be for the non-linear mindset of internet people, I suppose, but to me it looks like they took their titles of the day and threw them against a wall.

What the answer to Salon's monetary issues is - who knows. The obvious thing would be to collect from users. But nobody wants to pay for anything on the internet - we've been getting everything for free (after a relatively modest payment to the connection service - and not likely to be happy with being asked for a fee. It's really quite astonishing when you think of it - used to have a window onto the world for a quarter when you bought your newspaper. Now that seems so limited, and for *free* we have access to all kinds of newspapers, magazines, information sites, encyclopedias, venues for communicating directly with people all over the globe...

Um, final word - as in your final sentence: The excitement of seeing what's on the feed NOW. (Excuse me, gotta go refresh...)
Extraordinary list. Love it and couldn't agree more.
Rated.
Ah, with the wonders of (FREE) google I got an (maybe not THE) answer to 13 + Jews - the 13th birthday thing, and 13 principles of faith. Is there more? (I only spent 3o seconds on google, gotta go check the FP).
Great and Awesome post... Loving your take on everything..
Dude, this was fantastic! Loved your list, including the blanks. All you've mentioned is the reason that OS is so addictive for some and also not so much for others. I especially love the diversity here. And a Happy New Year to you!
Lonnie,
Being one of the handful of real versus virtual OSers that you have met, I have to agree that I found you " awesomely talented, deep thinking, loving, (and) compassionate."
I well remember the OS uprising against the salon overlords who claimed we were social site slaves and not real friends. We claimed our human feelings in cyberspace much like Data on Star Trek. I was proud when the new editor's opening post acknowledged us as such. There's a lot of caring here.
And...uh...Lonnie, I don't have to sign in but once anymore. Maybe it's just Mac users. Just saying...
Love you, Lonnie, and am wishing you the luckiest and most fulfilling new year it is possible for such a talented, loving, on-his-toes guy to have.
Thanks, Lonnie, for giving me a bit of an education" on OS. I had no idea it was only 2 years old. As for the addictive nature of the beast, it's undeniable as I find myself spending more and more time reading posts and less time on Facebook updating my status.

Happy secular New Year!
Excuse me but I don't see my name mentioned on this list.
Excellent list, Lonnie.
Wonderful. I love that we can gather (or not), comment (or not) and wallow (or not). And that there is great writing, good reading, funny pieces, sad anthems... Happy new year.
As my grandpa says, yeppers.
I've been here a while now (well - more than a year, almost a year and a half), and it still amazes me how much undiluted talent there is here. You hit some major points here, the largest (IMHO) being how much this places changes. I've always espoused using this place with a bastardized pirate's credo - Take what you want, but give something back.

Thank you, Lonnie, for always giving something back. :-D
Cool post, Lonnie. Thanks.
>>I’m amazed there’s not more porn.

I would after "amazed:" "and disappointed."

Other than that, this is brilliant, Lonnie, and thanks for it. Excellent and truly balanced view of OS.

Though I would echo Monsieur Chariot's comment. And, you know, the porn thing.
I love this so much I'm going to add it to my blog's left-side links. Seriously. That much. Here's a hug and a thumb.
A read through just the comments on this post alone would give the proverbial Martian a pretty good idea what makes OS tick. Thanks to one and all for your kind and thoughtful reflections, for your affirmation of my perceptions and for your expressions of real heart.

I won't respond to each person by name but I would like to explore the log-in issue. Perhaps it's not as widespread as I suspected it might be. I am on a Mac and I use Firefox. There was a time until a couple of weeks ago that a sign on would keep me signed in for several days, as long as I didn't shut down Firefox in the interim. At present, unless I generate activity within OS on a constant basis, it seems whatever server I'm logging in to will bounce me off within a couple of hours. If I had more faith in the possiblilty of getting an answer I would ping support@ instead of airing my grievance publicly - it's interesting to find others do not have the issue I'm experiencing but I'm frankly no that interested to organize a round of controlled testing to try and sort it out.

@Floyd and @my dear Monsieur Chariot: I mentioned you both in #10; look again.

Happy New Year and god bless us, every one.
What a not so long strange trip it's been since you dragged me here kicking and screaming almost a year and a half ago. I had no idea how rewarding -- and addicting -- this place would become. Thanks again.
Lonnie, I also use a Mac and Firefox and have had the same change happen starting a few to several weeks ago: I used to be able to stay logged into OS even if I closed the tab it was on, as long as I didn't close Firefox altogether. Now not only does closing the tab log me off, but I get logged off automatically after X amount of time or perhaps when my laptop sleeps (not sure which).

I date the change to when there was that huge problem some weeks ago that effectively shut OS down for a while. I assumed there was some system change made after that to foil spammers that also meant we can't just stay logged on indefinitely but that's pure guesswork on my part.
Congratulations. Good writing is always its own excuse, but OS is the reincarnation of The Well. Right now, on my blog, I am trying to pioneer some new uses of OS, in between writing my one poem per day exercise.

OS has become an important part of my life, but I wish people would praise less and offer more constructive criticism. (I get no kick from that kind of champagne.)

Has anyone ever tried to gather up all the recommendations for improvement?

I have a list of my own in case anyone's interested.
What a great post! I too have quit reading most newspapers, magazines etc,., because one, I don't have the time. Keeping up with whats going on OS is a full time job. Two. It's here anyway. I can read about something in the NY Times, come back, and it beats me here. Amazing. One other thing. Try to explain OS to someone who isn't on it is like talking Chinese to a Mexican. They don't "get" it. I tell my friends I'm busy. Doing what? Checking some new stuff on OS. Whats OS? well..., Again, a great post!
R~
This is great. Especially liked "empty boots in the stirrups of a riderless horse at a funeral."
But can you tell me the Jewish meaning of 13 please?
Wise and witty. as usual.
Lonnie, this was superlative, really! I agreed with each of the points as you made them and elaborated upon them. You have not left #1-5 blank, in fact, but rather offered them as hooks to that other extraordinary OS phenomenon: the comment-thread. Just as in the best OS posts, the artistry devolves into another medium... As your thread demonstrates, OS is a dynamic, synergetic, community - of scribblers, of friends. And, yes, Canadians ;)
Nice job, Lonnie. I especially like and agree with number 11. OS is a great community and as is true with any community, virtual or real, we are many little pieces that form the larger sum of the community. Some of us are more vocal, some are quiet. Some of us are more colorful, while some of us are more muted in our tones. And as is true in all communities, we have our shared triumphs and our struggles. But all of it equals a diversity that makes it all interesting and keeps me coming back.
So very thoughtful without being preachy or superior. I need to read more of you (I'm happy to stand in line ;-).
@outside: I really don't think there's much of a line...
Good read. Agreed with your analysis and list, so thanks for saving me the trouble of disagreeing with ya! We can all fill in 1-5 with our very vivid imaginations. Vivid is another wotd I think of when considering OS.
Do the Salon Overlords have a Death Star?

Nicely put.
Lonnie, what an original and refreshing post! You describe so many of the things about OS that I absolutely love. Friends have difficulty understanding it...but what you say is so true. Thank you for this.
I devour the way you write. Utterly. And, as a neophyte to the OS forum, many thanks for the candid breakdown of not only what to expect, but why I should be even more excited for finally growing a pair and joining.
Lonnie, I HATE the new Salon layout! It was much better before they screwed it all up.

I like OS. I had no idea what I was getting in to; I just joined to reply to a post and ended up really liking it here. Most of the time I feel inadequate and stupid because there are just so many great writers and smarties here, but I never feel excluded. The majority of comments on the scant amount I’ve posted have been mostly positive aside from a few shitheads. I don’t like when commenters bitch about a post not being serious enough though. That’s what’s great about OS. Not every post has to be earth-shaking and profound. Sometimes I’d rather read a silly list about why cats are better than people than “serious” material. It allows me to be silly and still mingle with some very intelligent people. Thanks, OS! (Here’s where I’d grin and give the thumbs up.)
Well done. Last night was a great example of #11 and #12 in action for me. I made a last check of OS right before I wanted to hit the sack. I wound up reading and commenting for the next two hours, mostly on pieces written by OSers whom I hadn't read before. Some of those post I read were from following recommendations of others. So now this morning I'm dragging ass at work.
I've not read a finer summary. Thanks for continuing to write about technology. Oh, and I like the riderless horse. Regarding #8, I rarely have to log in at home, but often have to at work. I don't know why. The community here is extraordinary. I like your "porn" comment. I'm amazed that without censorship, there ISN'T a race to the bottom. Excellent presentation. I'm impressed that you use OS as your main portal. Most of us don't. Maybe we should. Happy New Year.
What a wonderful description of the complexities of OS - the good, the bad and the ugly.

And I'm more than happy to porn OS up for you a bit. Anything in mind?

Pornificate OS.

The Porning of OS.

Pornify OS!
Thank you, Lonnie. Glad to know that you and OS are alive and well and writing and caring.

And BTW, I am a Mac and Firefox user, who doesn't need to log on unless I close Firefox or shut down the computer. BUT I was off-line for a fairly long time (busyness); perhaps some even in the interim is affecting others' visibility to OS
"Spliff" You've been spliffed. Just sayin. Pass the cereal.
Everybody else said what I wanted to say. Great post!
Lonnie I liked the post but the first line left me cold. I can’t decide whether it’s racist or just pretentious,

“It's also a Jewish thing. You wouldn't understand.”

It's also a Christian thing. You wouldn't understand.

It's also a White thing. You wouldn't understand.

It's also a Black thing. You wouldn't understand.

It presupposes that there are emotional experiences that others are some how unaware of, meaning of course that the author of such a statement is some how superior and the reader is some how inferior.
Thanks for leaving a critical compliment or a complimentary criticism David; we don't get enough of these around here in my view.

I'd cop to a measure of pretension, perhaps, while assuring you I consciously strive against the many racist impulses that living in our culture can foist on a person. In the end I can only honor your having been left cold by my inept attempt to be humorous.

Without feeling a need to explain or justify the joke, I would point out that, in reality "there are emotional experiences that others are some how unaware of" and these run rife through the culture. In some cases (such as my own), it's really no big thing, but more often than not such emotional experiences are felt by -- though obviously are not strictly, solely available to -- people outside the prevailing dominant male WASP culture that has set the tone for what is acceptable and/or desirable in the U.S. since its founding.

In any event, I can understand how expressing one's sense of outsidership might come off as pretentious and may well be, in certain cases, racist. In the spirit of the compassion I strive to cultivate for all beings, I'd like to propose we agree on its being an expression of a kind of defensiveness and leave aside any judgment about whether that defensiveness is -- in my case anyway -- justified.
I love the community aspect of OS. I feel like I've made real friends here. It's amazing.