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SEPTEMBER 24, 2009 7:00AM

The Swiss take aim at "the Islamist threat"

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  Anti-Minaret Initiative
Logo of the Swiss "Anti-Minaret Initiative"

SWITZERLAND OWES ITS INTERNATIONAL reputation to its watches, bank accounts, chocolate, and the Matterhorn, but now it is gaining a name for itself in another area as well: as a bulwark against Muslim expansion in Europe. On November 29 the country is holding a nationwide referendum concerning the construction of mosques on Swiss territory. But a controversial political poster is already raising temperatures in this land of Alpine glaciers and pristine ski resorts.

  Anti-Minaret
"Stop. [Vote] Yes to the minaret ban."

The offending placard is the product of the “Anti-Minaret Committee,” an initiative that seeks to anchor a proposed ban on the construction of minarets in the Swiss constitution. The poster shows a veiled woman standing against a backdrop of missile-like minarets shooting out of the Swiss flag. The Committee is claiming that minarets are not really religious symbols but rather emblems of Muslim power and Sharia law. As such, the organization regards their construction as an insidious threat to the basic rights of the Swiss people as a whole.

Georg Kreis, president of the Federal Commission Against Racism, told the Swiss TV news program Tagesschau on September 20 that the poster is “dangerous” and “represents a defamatory attempt to depict Muslims as an immense danger to Switzerland.” The same day, Walter Wobmann, a member of the National Council of Switzerland for the Swiss People’s Party (SVP), the chairman of the initiative, told the tabloid SonntagsBlick that the poster was merely honest in light of the fact that “Islamization is a growing threat – and we are defending ourselves against it.”  Wobmann merely shrugged off the poster’s visual content, commenting that “minarets just happen to look like missiles.” The posters will start going up in October, unless the government reacts and takes them out of circulation.

The national-conservative SVP has been increasingly swinging to the right in recent years and is presenting himself as the voice of the growing number of Swiss who fear the encroachment of Muslims, Africans, and other foreigners on their unique way of life.  Some of their posters reflect this trend towards open xenophobia. They have prove so successful in whipping up fear that Germany’s neo-Nazi National Democratic Party has copied some of these motifs for its own (now banned) election posters. This campaign has certainly shown results - today the SVP is Switzerland's largest party.

 

Free passports
"Stop. Yes on the Naturalization Initiative."
This poster refers to a proposed ban on efforts to loosen
Switzerland's strict naturalization laws

 

Freipass
"A free pass[port] for everybody? No."
Black crows pick Switzerland to pieces

 

  Security
"Create security"

 

  Maria not Sharia
"Maria, not Sharia!"

The Swiss Council of Religions, which unites representatives of the main Christian churches, Jews, and Muslims, came out against the ban in early September. In an official declaration, the Council stated that it understood the fears many Swiss had of Islamic fundamentalism. Nevertheless, it said the country’s three major faiths should encounter one another and work out their differences as “sister religions.” Farhad Afshar, president of the Coordination of Islamic Organizations in Switzerland, says that “this poster is Islamophobic and sows fear.” He also warns his adopted country of ruining Switzerland’s image in the Muslim world. Anti-racism chairman Kreis seconds him on this, saying that “this way of dealing with Muslims represents a greater threat to Switzerland than minarets. (Muslims currently represent approximately 5.8% of the Swiss population.)

What sort of threat could this be? Denmark found out during the outcry against Mohammed caricatures published by the newspaper Jyllands-Posten in 2006, when mobs in Muslim countries stormed Danish embassies and attacked Christians on the streets. The Swiss government has already set up a special commission to deal with the potential threat to Swiss citizens and interests abroad if the referendum goes through.

In fact, Switzerland’s days might already be numbered. Embroiled in his own conflict with the country, Libyan leader Muammar Gadafi recently asked the United Nations to dissolve the Swiss Confederation and divide its territory amongst its neighbors.

Anti-Danish riot
Anti-Danish riot, 2006

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Actually the Swiss have the most power to bear on this issue. All they have to do is threaten to sanction the middle east by withholding shipments of cheese and garden gnomes and the conflict would be over in a matter of moments.
I wonder what the Swiss would do if "them foreigners" pulled all their cash from those secret bank accounts.
It's my understanding that minarets in mosque architecture serve the same practical purpose as church bell towers--they were put up high so that the calls to prayer would carry further.
This is so sad. The French get such a bad rap on their treatment of Muslims in their country, but compared to the Swiss - supposedly a "neutral" country - they are generous and inclusive. I will never eat Swiss cheese or chocolate again.
"What sort of threat could this be? Denmark found out during the outcry against Mohammed caricatures published by the newspaper Jyllands-Posten in 2006, when mobs in Muslim countries stormed Danish embassies and attacked Christians on the streets."

On the other hand, is it reasonable and rational for aherents of a religion to form mobs, storm embassies and attack people on the street, just because their prophet is portrayed in a cartoon?

This is where the fear comes from - not saying it's right or wrong, just that there's a reason for the fear.
The Swiss may be neutral when it comes to favoring one country over another but small population countries have a right to be concerned. They like many naturally occurring plants and animals in nature native populations can be easily overwhelmed by the introduction of totally "foreign" peoples, religions and cultural practices. In any democracy numbers are what count (voters). Muslims do not seem to assimilate well and want their own laws and customs no matter what country they live within. So if the Swiss want their country to be fundamentally changed and their culture wiped out they can make all the accommodations to the incoming Muslim populations they want. Just rest assured that the Swiss, as we know them, will cease to exist within two or three generations. Is this view xenophobic, racist or realistic? Dose self preservation over ride current politically correct thinking? I don't know but I'll let the Swiss decide.
I've often wondered why Western Europe, with its falling native birthrate and panic about Muslim culture becoming the norm, doesn't do more to open immigration from Mexico. OK, they're not European, and there's still a culture clash, but it's not nearly as big as that between native Europeans and Muslim immigrants. Mexico is something like 90% Catholic, with the remaining 10% mostly made up of various Protestant sects and Mormons. None of these religions are generally considered a big threat to the European way of life, and Mexico has had a long history of separation of Church and state.

A nonstop ticket from Mexico City to London, England, for a month from now is going for $1308 on Expedia.

When you consider that every day people in Mexico pay coyotes a thousand bucks to put them in car trunks, drive them across the border, and drop them off in the middle of the desert, where they have to spend the rest of their lives worrying about U.S. Immigration, I'd think that immgrating to Europe over the U.S. would be worth considering.

Just throwing that out there.
I agree with the Swiss on this. It really comes down to a personal exmination of the phenomonae known as "Islam". I have examined Islam and deem it a threat to my beliefs and way of life. So there is nothing they do to convince me of what I intrinsically know about them. THEY ARE in fact trying to achieve world domination...and Sharia law is part of the plan.

I also want to say that I am a believer in homogenuity. I believe in equality of homogenuity but I believe in homogenuity none the less. This means that I believe for groups of people to live free and separate from other groups...based on their ideology and lifestyles. The Swiss are happy with what they have evolved into...they need to keep the Muslims out. The Muslims are obviously not happy with what they have evolved to (other wise they would stay in their region and not migrate to Europe) and they want to intermingle into non-muslim lands. They have absolutely NO RIGHTS to clamor or be upset with anything.

STAY IN YOUR OWN REGION and continue to practice Islam as you want...but the rest of the world does not want to see it spread...so the Swiss are doing their part to keep it in check.

Amen.
There's a line from a movie (I think Orson Welles starred in it) about the only things the Swiss have contributed to western civilization are chocolate and cuckoo clocks. They should stick to that.

R
Thats hard to even grasp from an American point of view because its an essential part of our bill of rights and goes back to the Puritans in England and Holland. The wildest wingnut here hasn't suggested what the Swiss are. The communist party might have approved though.
Of course, I understand that bans of this nature do not correspond very well with the West's stated goals of secularism and separation of church and state. That being said, I can't help but notice there isn't much in the way of obvious Christian symbolism on display in Istanbul's Church of St. George exterior. And that is the pre-eminent church of Eastern Orthodoxy. I can't help but wonder, as well, what would happen if someone tried to build a Baptist church, complete with a steeple topped with a cross, in Istanbul or Riyadh. Sometimes, when I'm feeling just a little less liberal than usual, I think it might be a good idea to consent to things like allowing minarets in a city like Zurich or Paris, when cities like Istanbul and Riyadh show similar openness.
@Leeandra
That is a most remarkable suggestion. I wonder why no one has ever thought of it before? In addition, Europeans already love Mexican food and Margaritas, so it seems to me the Mexicans are halfway there.

@John
Yes, that quote came to my mind right away! The people from the Black Forest don't like it, though, because they claim that THEY invented the cuckoo clock!

@Procopius
That's the standard argument people make in Europe. It's almost impossible to build any kind of church in much of the Muslim world, and both steeples and bells are usually illegal, so this is fair game. Still, I don't like to see us adopting other people's exclusionary tactics to exclude people that we don't like. There've got to be better arguments than that!

@everybody else
Thanks for your thoughtful and thought-provoking comments. I'm very curious to see how this all plays out in November.
that's democracy, for you. people will put their opinions in public, talk about them and vote on them. there should be more of it. but only the swiss can do these things, they alone have citizen initiative.

it's better than having mobs running through the streets, setting fire to churches and consulates, don't you agree?

some swiss are worried about the spread of islam. and not just swiss, either. most islamic countries are corrupt dictatorships, many created and supported by the usa, and their people leave if they can, or must. there's millions of iraqis, for example, floating around the middle east due to the american invasion. some of them will turn up in switzerland, if they're lucky.

yes, they stick together like every other immigrant/refugee group. it helps survival. so some swiss are worried. their american counterparts aren't voting on this at the national level, they can't. but their congressthings are: all kinds of 'no welfare', 'higher walls,' and 'ship 'em back' laws have appeared lately.

the league of nations and red cross were swiss initiatives, their contribution to civilized foreign relations is greater than most. if the backward, 'know-nothing' segment of swiss society is rising, it is still smaller than the percentage of americans who put the shrub in the whitehouse.
European countries bring a lot of grief to themselves through what the call multiculturalism when what they really have is defacto segregation. They insists that each should do their own thing instead of allowing immigrants to be part of the community.

People come to Switzerland to escape whatever, and find community, but instead find that they are segregated and so are forced to make their own community, usually among peoples like themselves.

Another thing also occurrs. Some immigrants want to have their cake and eat it too. They were bullies where they came from and want to remain so in their new homes. If they cannot live without a masque on every corner, then they will have to live in an Islamic country. This may be harsh, but reality seems never pretty.

You cannot always blame the host for accepting bad guest. While at the same time, you cannot be a good guest unless you feel you are welcome.
I lived in Switzerland and trust me, you don't mess with the Swiss. It is a police state and they do not take kindly to outsiders. It may look all Disney, but trust me.... I think people have disappeared off the face of the earth in that country.
I say just bring Osama Bin Ladn (I bin' ladin' some pork rinds 'n gravy oer my beer soaked falafa) an' Co. to Swisserlan' an' put 'em all in lederhosen an' give 'em Steins..Gloria STEINem robot feminist Anti-Stepford Wives to take skiin', down the slopes of Dubai's artificial slopes...you'll have to pony up the majic carpet flyin' fare...an' let's have Global Amity...woops...there's a movie called Amityville Horror...oops...
I can understand the fear the Swiss have. After all, it is a tiny country and their fear of being overrun by a religions that on the surface doesn't seem so accepting of others may transform the landscape in every way possible.

Islam has taken a bum rap for many years now first within the Middle East and then on 9/11, but then you don't see other religions highjack planes, vow to wipe Israel off the map, or blow up buildings, buses, trams, and railways.

Islam screams for rights, but doesn't allow their own Islamic women basic rights. Does that not sound hypocritical??

So we'll see how Switzerland will vote, but I do understand where the country is coming from and I won't be surprised if they want to preserve their way of life even if it means limiting Islamic influence in their small country.

Maybe it's time someone should stand up to the bullying tactics of Islam, and other dictatorial religions, governments or viewpoints.
I absolutely agree with the SVP on the issue of moslems amd minarets. I also agree that being a small country with a population of only about 7 million, they have a right to be worried about being over run by immigrants. Having said that, I have a son in switzerland, he was born in Zurich and his mother is 100% swiss. I am african-american so my son is "black" and I wonder and worry very much about how he is going to be treated in his mother's country and the country of his birth if the SVP continues to be successful with their anti-immigrant agenda. One solution is to get him here, but the mother won't even hear of it. If only they could confine their xenophobia to moslems, it will be justified in my opinion.
@slytot
Thanks for your intriguing comment. It wonderfully illustrates just how complex this issue is.