Alan Nothnagle

Alan Nothnagle
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I am a freelance writer, YA author, and interpreter based in Berlin.

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MAY 10, 2012 9:49AM

Has Obama tipped the scales towards gay marriage in Europe?

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 Gay Marriage

PRESIDENT BARACK OBAMA’S RECENT statement of support for gay marriage in the United States is touching off an avalanche of advocacy for equal marriage rights throughout Europe as well. No, nobody died and made him emperor. But his high-level announcement might just expedite a continent-wide trend towards full marriage rights for gays and straights alike.

Obama has retained a great deal of his personal - if not political - appeal in Europe, and when he talks, people start talking. While his support may not make gay marriage more appealing per se to its opponents, it seems to be making public opposition to it less plausible. In Berlin today, Green politician Volker Beck challenged Chancellor Angela Merkel, whose Christian Democratic Union and her Free Democrat coalition partners have long been dragging their feet on gay marriage, to quit stallling and finally announce that “It’s okay to marry gay.” The current German law, which the Social Democrat/Green coalition pushed through in 2000, only allows for a “registered partnership” (a.k.a. “homo marriage”) without full marriage status and which still withholds tax privileges and adoption rights - although largely for practical rather than "moral" reasons.

Responding to Mr. Obama's comments, Green party boss Claudia Roth said it was "a scandal" that the CDU/FDP coalition had failed to legalize full gay marriage nearly twelve years after the passage of the partnership law. The Left Party, not normally a fan of the President, announced that Mr. Obama “has sent an internationally heard signal that the German Bundestag should also pay attention to.” The party’s spokesperson for gay and lesbian issues, Barbara Höll, said that “all deputies should vote in the Bundestag, independently of their party and coalition affiliations” so that homosexuals may “quickly” move towards full marriage. “Discrimination,” she added, “is no longer in keeping with our times.”

Ines Pohl, the lesbian editor of the left wing Tageszeitungeditorialized this morning: "Make no mistake: This is an historic day. With his commitment to gay marriage, Obama has made history once again."

But it isn't just the left that is cheering Obama's move.  Despite his government’s hesitation in the matter, Foreign Minister Guido Westerwelle of the coalition Free Democrats, who sealed his own “homo marriage” with boyfriend Michael Mronz back in 2010, announced that Obama’s statement was a “a brave step” in the spirit of the German government’s policies and, yes, “it’s okay to marry gay.” Today, encouraged by Obama and her party colleague Westerwelle, Justice Minister Sabine Leutheusser-Schnarrenberger called for full equal marriage rights in Germany. "Every life model deserves respect," she said.

Westerwelle Mronz

Foreign minister Guido Westerwelle and sports manager Michael Mronz 

Obama’s gay marriage "coming out" captured the headlines in every major European newspaper and has set an unignorable precedent. In France, it may further tip the balance towards a rapid introduction of equal marriage rights. President Nicolas Sarkozy (something of an expert on the topic, with three straight marriages and two divorces under his belt) regularly nixed the idea, stating that “to my knowledge and the current state of scientific knowledge, it requires a man and a woman to have a child.”

Tone-deaf comments like this may have helped cost him the election. According to the newspaper La Libération, speaking out in favor of gay marriage could have "made his image a bit more human," but ultimately he feared "alienating part of the traditional right-wing electorate." He needn't have bothered. His socialist successor François Hollande took a different tack, promising during his campaign to “open the right to marriage and adoption to homosexual couples” by 2013. Hollande defeated Sarkozy in a runoff election on May 6. It appears that French voters had other issues on their minds besides the threat of gay marriage. Who could have imagined it?

Already in February, the communist mayor of Villejuif "married" a gay couple in deliberate violation of French law, which still defines marriage as being between a man and a woman. Alexis Cortijos, one of the grooms, told reporters that "it's a militant act. We wanted to show certain people from the Right that people want to start moving things forward." They now seem to be moving forward very quickly indeed.

Alongside Germany and France, Denmark, Luxembourg, and Finland are considering going beyond their existing registered partnership laws and allowing full gay civil marriage. As far as Britain is concerned, Obama is behind the times. In Edinburgh, the Scottish National Party has announced that it is “inclined” to permit gay marriage in the near future. In London, party leaders David Cameron, Nick Clegg, and Ed Milliband are actively seeking action on the issue. This spring, Prime Minister Cameron famously announced: "I don't support gay marriage despite being a conservative. I support gay marriage because I am a conservative." No, Cameron hasn't turned into a blushing liberal, but he does know that it's not good politics for the Conservatives to be permanently branded "the nasty party."

The Netherlands became the first country to legalize gay marriage in 2001. So far, Belgium, Iceland, Norway, Sweden, Spain, and Portugal have legalized civil ceremonies. Several Central European countries, including Switzerland, the Czech Republic, Austria, Hungary, and Slovenia, permit certain kinds of registered partnerships.

Further east, countries such as Poland, Lithuania, Belorus, Bulgaria and Ukraine have constitutions defining marriage as existing solely between a man and a woman. While it will likely take more than a few words from Obama to change their way of doing business, it’s hard to imagine the social revolution the Dutch tipped off in 2001 halting forever at mere national borders. And regardless of what Republicans might think, it would take a lot more than the election of Mitt Romney, the likely candidate of America's own "nasty party," to stop the movement for universal human rights in the United States as well.

 

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This is just the tip of the iceberg. Unfortunately, it will lead to some people not voting for him. We all know that here in the States, that it's all about taxes and tax breaks, not personal morals. This would throw a monkey wrench into the plans of the Republicans to get more tax breaks for the rich, by giving a whole lot more to the middle class.
@Kenny
Yes, it's largely the tax aspects that are slowing the movement down in Germany as well. I imagine that gay marriage will lead to a certain amount of financial and immigration shenanigans, but gay couples will have a tough act to follow when it comes to that sort of thing!

In this little article I deliberately take a civil rights standpoint, leaving the messy details aside for the moment. All progress is messy, of course, but if given the choice, I'll go for greater freedom every time.
My favorite solution to this issue has been for all governments at every level to revise all "marriage" law, extract that word and replace it with something like "civil union or spousal partnership" to define legal rights and responsibilities. This leaves the word "marriage" to churches, synagogues, temples and mosques allowing the people who want to "sanctify" a legal union with the option to discriminate according to their personal religious beliefs. This allows everyone equal rights under the law and strengthens the wall between religion and state.
@jmac
My feelings exactly.
By the way, in case anyone gets hot under the collar about the OS front page headline "Did Obama push Europe towards gay marriage?" (which I didn't write), let me just say: No, he didn't, although his very public advocacy is tipping the scales in Germany and, I suspect, in other countries where the votes are close. As I frequently suggest on my blog, actions in one place have consequences in others. No more, no less.
I attended the wedding of two male German friends in Mitte in 1991. Of course it wasn't legal, but I found the acceptance there very different than here in the states. Prejudice looks very different in a place where American fundamentalist Christians are absent. There's a lot more curiosity and a lot less violence.
@SpiritMan
Indeed, fundamentalists are completely absent here - I know some exist in the shadows, desperately homeschooling their kids about creationism etc. - but they aren't part of the public dialogue. Believe me, they are not missed.

While I'm hardly the expert, I'm also intrigued at how little interest most gays here have in the marriage issue relative to the situation in America, now that traditional marriage has become just one option in this society. I suspect the greater interest in the US has to do with that culture's demand for middle class respectability. When living in the US, I was always struck at how important it was to show up at social functions with your "spouse" or girlfriend. Here in Germany nobody really cares who you show up with, and I appreciate that.
Interesting article here, thanks.

Things are moving fast, but in the right direction. I remember clearly Ségolène Royal of the Parti Socialiste in France being against gay marriage in the 2007 election, with a sort of sophistry that made a curious conjuncture between American religious moralists and French leftist bureaucrats.

Now, maybe we've turned the page? Hollande is very much an opportunist. But, even if he's just jumping on the bandwagon, better late than never. Because the issue obviously has serious merits, whatever the political maneuvering.
@Mary
"Religion was a freedom granted to the people to have or not have."
Well stated!
I grew up in Hungary and lived in France and the UK before I moved to the US. I think Obama's stand - together with the recent left-shift in France will open up a new line of communication on not only the subject of gay marriage and the definition of marriage itself but on other subjects that might require redefinition.

As Obama pointed out, the definition or marriage has been shifting, just like everything else over time. Recognizing these shifts are very important, and stating them out loud by politicians who can influence people's thinking is very powerful.

I think we can expect a shift in Europe pretty soon. It has already started in France, and I believe it will continue, not only due to people's dissatisfaction with the current economic crisis but also because bold political statements (such as Obama's endorsement of gay marriage) are likely to encourage people who share these views to speak up.

Yes, there's always an opposition, and sure, Obama's statement won't be popular with everyone. It will, however, make people think and potentially open up those who have been quiet about the issue.

Some day we might even get to a point where "gay marriage" is just called "marriage". Obama's statement might be the first important step in that direction.
@judith
Thanks, that's my hope too!
Interesting take on things that we don't often get here, thanks for broadening our horizons. And I think you're right about the inter-connectedness of politics.
Please. Obama was for gay marriage in 1996, against it in 2004, and for it again in 2012. All he's done is change his position more than someone playing musical chairs.

And Dick Cheney announced his support of gay marriage in 2009 maybe he set off the "tidal wave" in Europe?

Both suggestions are laughable.
Seems to me it was the other way around. Europe (France and Spain in particular) was ears ahead of the US in this regard.

But evolve he did. I’m sure it was only coincidence he did it the day after I published my own analysis but it seems to enforce my argument that Biden was just sending up a weather balloon with the bosses consent.

But the ‘evolution is still not complete.  Obama did not endorse marriage equality as a federal matter and never came out and said same-sex marriage is ‘fundamental’ right guaranteed by the Constitution. Arguably he just adopted the same position as Vice President Dick Cheney in 2004 when said he believed marriage equality was a 'states rights' matter (this is the classic segregationist argument btw).

Yes, it’s marriage equality when both Cheney and Obama agree that same-sex couples should be able to legally marry even if they feel the issue is one the states decide democratically. However that does not mean Obama believes there is no Constitutional right to do so. While it’s fair to infer he thinks so Obama is still tap-dancing a bit and continues to speak Ketman.
@Francois
Yes, Europe has been out in front on the national level, but don't forget the developments in a number of American states.

@Harrison
No tidal wave, obviously, but a tipping of the scales, as in Berlin yesterday. Obama's statement puts a lot of pressure on Chancellor Merkel, and it puts just that much more wind in Hollande's sails.
I was a little surprised to read this article because, living in Denmark it has always been my impression that America is far behind Europe when it comes to gay rights, not the other way round. But maybe I am wrong. I did however check up on my own country's rules on marriage. Basically, there's two ways to get married in Denmark: there's a traditional marriage which takes place under the auspices of the Danish State Church, and where the ritual is performed by a priest. Then there's something called a civil marriage where the ceremony is performed by a civil servant. In terms of rights there's no difference between these two options, and my impression is that just as many heterosexual couples opt for the latter as the first way of marriage. In any case, the civil marriage is open to gay couples. There's a debate as to whether they should be able to get married in church as well, and everything suggests that a law soon will be passed removing this last barrier.
@Rikkesanb
Oh yes, several western European countries have been out ahead on this, although the farther east you go, the less enthusiasm you'll find, cf. Poland etc. I don't know about Denmark, but I was aware that in Sweden there is also some deliberation about forcing the Protestant Church to perform gay weddings if requested. This will be an interesting test of Scandinavian tolerance, since it's not just a question of Protestants accepting it, but also blessing it.

In Germany, only registry office marriages are legal, the religious kind (performed afterwards) is optional. Persons of a religious bent thus marry twice, but only the first one counts. At issue here is gay civil marriage. I can imagine that many Protestant clerics, and pretty much the entire Catholic Church, would have a thing or two to say about enforcing gay church weddings. But social norms are changing so quickly here that even that debate may go much more smoothly than we can imagine today.
Did you add that last part in after realizing that 1/2 of Europe already has some sort of legalized gay union that it recognizes already, and the rest, sans Germany are so much farther ahead in the debate that they will most certainly beat us to enacting laws legitimizing these arrangements?

The US isn't even the leader on this issue in N. America. Canada and Mexico both beat us there.

On top of it all, Obama promised to do absolutely nothing when it comes to gay marriage (in fact, he vowed to do nothing), instead leaving it up to the states to decide.

Wow...what a bold leader. Can I offer you some more Kool-Aid?
I was speaking of Western Europe, of course. The Eastern side is still under the shadow of their former Communist Block affiliation. Once the last of that generation dies, things will come around there as well.
@Malcolm
I'm not sure what you were reading, or were you taken in by the header on the OS homepage? I know very well that many western European countries are way ahead on this, I live here after all. If you read my article, I clearly state that the Netherlands introduced full gay marriage in 2001 (!!) and even Germany pushed through registered partnerships around the same time. I also highlighted Cameron's recent statement. At issue is full marriage recognition, which has a ways to go in the countries where it is still up for a vote, and is still far off in the east, along with Italy and Greece - all still part of Europe, the last time I checked a map.

Having said that, the US has achieved a great deal on the state level - my own native state legalized gay marriage some years ago, and that didn't happen by itself. While I deplore the North Carolina vote, for example, I'd be amazed if they had voted any other way, knowing that region as I do. Gay marriage is much like other major reforms: the smaller, more homogeneous, and better educated the country, the easier it is to push them through.
PRESIDENT BARACK OBAMA’S RECENT statement of support for gay marriage in the United States is touching off an avalanche of advocacy for equal marriage rights throughout Europe as well.


That's still the opening to your post, right?

Then, as a footnote, you list out all the countries in Europe that are already recognizing same-gender marriage (and, a footnote we'll call a "paraphrased" version of wikipedia's article on the subject...Pro-Tip - when copying and pasting, mix up the order of lists you copy from elsewhere...no one will know that way)

That's why I asked, did you tack that bit on the end when you realized that your entire premise was ridiculous?

Problem is, I did read what you wrote. (and, I agree with you about small, homogenious cultures. It's easy for people to care about others who are like them, and even easier for people to hate others who are not.)
oh yeah...there is also no mention of these countries, already ahead of us until we reach that footnote.
I hadn't thought of the international consequences of Obama's announcement but it even more credit-worthy if it spurs other governments to act.
@Malcolm
If you consult a map, you'll see that Europe is a very big place. Denmark and Sweden aren't exactly the norm as long as you've still got Poland and Bulgaria.
And, are poland and bulgaria any closer to enacting gay marriage since the president came out in favor of it?

His statement may have had a modicum of effect in Germany. Other than that, the countries in Europe already had laws in place, had laws in the works already, or just aren't ready for something like this (eastern block).

So, the entire premise of what you wrote is either copied from an encyclopedia, or completely specious bullshit...

And, it's an editor's pick.

Did Forrest Fucking Gump get hired as the editor in chief of this joint when I wasn't looking?
@Malcolm
I'll ignore the terms "specious bullshit" and "Forrest Gump." My piece is not specious but speculative, hence the title "Has Obama tipped the scales towards gay marriage?" Obviously, neither I nor anyone else could know the answer to that, and I don't provide it. These things take time, and I may return to the issue later on.

Somehow, seeing that you just posted a blog entry on "10 reasons not to vote for Obama," I suspect you think I've written one of those "Obama as superman" articles. Not so, I'm extremely critical and skeptical of the man, particularly in regard to foreign intervention and detention, where his record is appalling, and the farther you move away from American shores, the worse he appears. But on this issue he has certainly made headlines, even if it is just political manoeuvering. We'll see if he's also made history (as the German editor I quote in the article claims).
I must admit that Obama has embarrassed many Europeans (not only leaders) by his "libertine" move. Excellent piece, Alan; thank you. R
Outpost Lowlands checking in:

A non-issue since 2001, when the law allowing same sex marriages went into effect.
it may well prove to be a move that will have great effect culturally and internationally for which he will pay the greatest price.
The reasoning for gay marriage not often seen is that it protects the majority from a minorities proclivities given that they have been ostracised and their unions not recognized. It is in the entire societies interests to provide gays the same rights and sanctions as those who prefer the opposite sex. The institution is not threatened by same sex marriage, it is confirmed.
@Ben Sen
Yes, this attitude mystifies me too. I think one would really have to be uncertain about one's own straight marriage, and straight orientation, to start getting worried about how other people arrange their own private relationships. Or would you agree that this sort of zero-sum thinking is typical of the authoritarian mindset?
I think it's typical of an ignorant electorate led on by parties and institutions that prey upon their fears and insecurites. Or: par for the course in democracy. But I hardly think the extravagant progress made by "gay rights" is typical. I think in fact it is a wonder, second only to women's emancipation in my lifetime.

Obama didn't have to turn this into so blatant a culture war. You know damn well it will galvanize his opposition, but will it mean "faux" liberals will relent from their disappiontments and go to bat for him? I personally doubt it. I think his candidacy is in grave jeopardy and he didn't have to do this and would still have won the vast majority of the gay vote.
This article's headline implies that Obama and the US are in some way leading the way on the issue of gay marriage. That's simply not the case. US activists and politicians might have gained something (including extensive and substantial legal recognitions) if they'd looked to the example of various jurisdictions in Europe some time ago.

My partner and I have enjoyed a civil partnership under UK law since 2006. We have access (I believe) to the widest range of legal rights and benefits available to any same-sex couple in the world, even though our partnership is not (yet) called 'marriage' in law (though that's how it is, in fact, commonly described).

There are some countries that recognise gay marriage yet do not allow those couples to adopt; civil partners can adopt in the UK. Likewise, same-sex couples in states such as New York or Connecticut might be married, but they are a long way away from enjoying the full protection of the law, namely the 1,138 federal rights and benefits affecting married couples (e.g., immigration, tax, social security, and military). When is the US federal government going to show leadership on those matters, as many European states do for civil partnerships/domestic unions (as well as same-sex marriages).

Civil partnerships came about in the UK because activists and politicians very sensibly took a gradualist view that civil partnership would be more easily passed into law and generally accepted. Marriage could/should follow, mostly as a renaming of what civil partnership already grants us. Give or take a complaining archbishop, and the negotiation of certain religious groups, one day equality will come in name too (sooner rather than later, it's hoped). It should also be noted that gay marriage is something that David Cameron's Conservative Party was advocating long before President Obama publicly made his mind up on the subject.

Meanwhile, my partner and I might 'only' have a civil partnership, but we prefer that to a marriage that means little or nothing in the eyes of the law.
I do not "forget the developments in a number of American states." No, your chronology is totally messed up. State your facts. Where do you get them?

The U.S. has always followed both Europe and Canada. The Netherlands led the way with civil unions in 1979, (33 years ago!) Denmark followed in 1989 (23 years ago). The first U.S. state to offer civil unions was Vermont 2000 and that was 21 years after the Netherlands.

Hawaii was the first state to recognize marriage it in judicial precedent in Baehr v. Miike (originally Baehr v. Lewin) in 1993 but that was quickly struck down by legislation. Never happened.

The first same-sex marriages took place in the Netherlands on April 1, 2001. The countries that followed were Belgium (2003), Spain (2005), Canada (2005), South Africa!! (2006), Norway (2009), Sweden (2009, Portugal (2010), Iceland (2010) and Argentina (2010).

The first U.S. state to recognize same sex marriage was Massachusetts in 2004. State only.

On July 20, 2005, Canada became the FOURTH country in the world and the FIRST country in the Americas to legalize same-sex marriage. Europe has always been way out ahead by DECADES and these are FACTS not opinions.
@Francois
Let me try and help you out with a recap of the above:

NO, the US is hardly a leader when it comes to gay rights, or any other kind of rights these days, more's the pity. It has been consistently missing the train when it comes to legalizing gay marriage.

HOWEVER, there has been huge movement on the state and local level. Just because Washington isn't doing anything, this doesn't mean that countless activists, legislators and lawyers aren't extremely busy in their own regions. I believe this counts for a lot, and is an inspiration to activists elsewhere.

I PERSONALLY believe that Obama's announcement - as limited and overdue as it is - will have an impact abroad, which is the point of my article. I don't know this for sure (although it's certainly happening in Germany), I doubt it can be measured, but it is my impression.

While I'm hardly an Obama man myself, I think he should be credited for getting things right. I think he was right in this case, not in others.