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JULY 29, 2009 8:29PM

Health Care: Living Wills or Govt-Mandated Death Squads?

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If you listen to the Republicans (OR Chris Matthews, for that matter), you’d think that Obama is using Health Care Reform to develop a not-so-stealth government program that dictates when, how, and how long we should all live and die.  The Obama Bill is just another cover for the liberals’ social engineering goals and objectives.

One of the most scary provisions in “Obamacare” is the one that suggests that health insurance cover patients who wish to have an “end-of-life consultation” with their physician. GOP Representative Virgina Foxx (R-NC) on the Floor of the House of Representatives, states that the current Bill would "put seniors in a position of being put to death by their government."

 

See also, the SEIU.org page for more on the Foxx nonsense.



I’ll keep this short. Foxx is a wing-nut and this is TOTAL FABRICATION.  It has been debunked, not only by the facts, but by several reputable news organizations.

Media Matters Fact Check

The Democratic Legislation Actually Provides Professional Guidance For Seniors' Difficult Decisions - NOT To Encourage Euthanasia

Like other Republicans before her, Rep. Foxx is basing her statement on a clause in the House bill guaranteeing seniors free counseling to help them with complex decisions.

"Advance Care Planning Consultation" Would Provide Seniors With Professional Advice On Will Preparation, Power Of Attorney, And Other Complicated Issues.  PolitiFact.com reported: "Indeed, Sec. 1233 of the bill, labeled 'Advance Care Planning Consultation' details how the bill would, for the first time, require Medicare to cover the cost of end-of-life counseling sessions. According to the bill, 'such consultation shall include the following: An explanation by the practitioner of advance care planning, including key questions and considerations, important steps, and suggested people to talk to; an explanation by the practitioner of advance directives, including living wills and durable powers of attorney, and their uses; an explanation by the practitioner of the role and responsibilities of a health care proxy.'" [PolitiFact.com, 7/16/09]


It is no accident that the Right Wing is using Scare Tactics to try to kill Health Care Reform.

In Religion Dispatches, Ann Neuman writes,

For the past several months, as I have worked on writing a book about death, dying, and grief, I have kept my ear to the Aid in Dying movement in the United States, listening in on both advocates and their “pro-life” opponents. I’d come to suspect that end-of-life issues would be a major hurdle to health care reform.

Although the leap from aid in dying to "euthanasia" or even "assisted suicide" is patently false, and entirely misleading, everyone from Fox News to the New York Post, are scaring the elderly with threats of denied service and coerced assisted suicide. As they muster their forces against health care reform, Republicans culture warriors and conservative media outlets stir fear of “deadly doctors” and "government-encouraged euthanasia".

http://www.religiondispatches.org/archive/politics/1707/how_end_of_life_issues_are_being_used_to_thwart_health_care_reform

Forbes also takes on this argument in specific terms and outlines the history and context of these provisions as well as what the bill really says.

The end-of-life language originates from a different bill, called the Advance Planning and Compassionate Care Act, introduced earlier this year by Sens. Jay Rockefeller, D-W.Va., and Susan Collins, R-Maine. In addition to the consultation, which Medicare will pay for every five years, the bill also says that patients will be informed about the benefits of hospice and palliative care. Hospices are facility or home-based services for terminally ill patients to receive pain medicine and other comforts before they die.

The proposed legislation says that patients should be instructed on how to write an advanced health care directive. It defines standard categories of care that can be included in such a document as nutrition, hydration, antibiotics and resuscitation in the event of a lack of pulse. It also would create a tracking system to see if doctors are promoting advanced care directives and following them. Sen. Rockefeller's office released a statement Friday saying the measure has bipartisan support as well as the backing of groups like the AARP.

Forbes Magazine, 07/24/2009

So, rational discussion and facts, or scare tactics and sound-bites? Take your pick.

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It must suck to be a republican- having an entire ideology based on lies, wishful thinking and fabrications.
Thank you for posting this. I just got angry at someone for once again posting more rovian propaganda in an "that Obama!" thread. They ticked me off so bad I had to go to a political message board and purge myself by shooting down dozens of threads by the conservative element. I wish I cold rate this more than once.
WOOT! Rachel Maddow nailed it a secret plot to kill old people

egads, they are now running ads supporting this nonsense.
there's nothing wrong with government operated euthanasia. the 'soylent green' program would have ameliorated stress on resources, reduced medical expenses, and done a lot for protein deficient diets.

if seniors had to negotiate an obstacle course annually after 65, it would be visibly fair, efficient, and save the nation big bucks. not surprising the republicans are leading the discussion, although you seem to imply they are against it...?
Euthanasia might be a damn sight better alternative than for many to grow old in America without health insurance.
This is the party that thinks of abortion as murdering babies; it's no stretch, I guess, to think of death with dignity as murdering old people.
A study published in Archives of Internal Medicine compared patients with terminal cancer who had end-of-life discussions with their physicians with those who did not. The patients who did not have such discussions endured more invasiave and costly "treatments," suffered more, and, in the opinion of their caregivers, had a poorer quality of death than those who had such discussions. And here's the punchline:

THEY DIDN'T EVEN LIVE ANY LONGER!!!

In fact they died a little bit sooner, even though they were not a sick to begin with.

This proposed legislation will inject a modicum of sanity into an insane situation.

See my post, "Should doctors kill? Part 3."
Patrick,

thanks - that is useful data. It infuriates me how reality gets so twisted into talking points, which obscure or ignore the facts.

rob - no, I'm not surprised at this leap, but that folks like Chris Matthews are starting to buy into the rhetoric makes me nuts.

Everyone should have a living will, in my opinion, and talk about what choices they would want for their health care and end of life alternatives. It would not be fair for my husband and family to have to make those decisions without ever having discussed options.
[No, I'm not sick or dying, but you do know that I live in constant fear of being hit by the proverbial bus - j/k but still, one never knows what can happen - so this is not just for OLD people.]

Emma - I detect a bit of snark, no?
I'm happy to see someone else covering this story. The irony is that conservatives are only substantiating the argument for a public option. If seniors are so deathly afraid of losing Medicare due to rationing, which is the perceived threat, then clearly Medicare and "socialized medicine" are both popular & effective. Please read my latest blog on this very subject.
-Unabashed supporter of "Death Care!"
This scare tactic really bothers me. In my medical practice I have enough problems with patients and families who can't come to terms with the fact that death is near and insist that "everything be done" when it is clear that nothing will work and further treatment will only prolong the dying process.

By scaring people like this, they put doctors and patients on opposite sides of the fence and inject a new layer of mistrust. Not only does this serve health care reform poorly, it increases the potential for human suffering.

A living will is not a set of instructions on how to kill a person. It is a guideline explaining how the patient wants to go. It is sad that anyone would be so immoral as to subvert such an important process.