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Lunchlady 2

Lunchlady 2
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I have been here, oh my, 2 or 3 years and in that time I have seen my youngest daughter wed and have my first beautiful granddaughter. I have seen a son join the Navy and fly away and I have buried my oldest son. This makes two sons I have lost and right now the world seems unfair and harsh but someday I will smile again and remember the good times more than the bad. Did I mention the alcoholic husband who has been in the hospital three times near death...it makes me wonder much about why some live, yet don't, and some die who are just starting to live. Out of 6 children I still have 4 and they are the light of my life....

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SEPTEMBER 20, 2011 9:04AM

16 Years with an Alcoholic

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My 16th AnniversaryMe and Turtle 001

Sixteen years ago tonight I met my husband to be at our local bar. I was working two jobs at the time just recently removing my verbally abusive first husband completely from my life and working 7 1/2 hours a day at one job and 6 to 8 hours a night at the other. The school hours were 6 to 2 and the Take n Bake pizza place 2 to 8 or 10 seasonally and I would always work either Friday night or Sunday or all day Saturday for $4.75 an hour too. It bought gas and groceries, I worked there with my daughter, she was in college and we pooled our money for insurance.

I had a night off and went out with my girlfriend for a night of drinks and dancing. I was sitting next to a man who asked if I knew him, and I didn't, and he introduced himself as Turtle. Lots of different versions of how he got his nickname over the years but the one I believe is the one with him being part of the original biker, cowboy "gang" The Rude Dogs out of Texas and his Hard Tail was always the last bike to pull into the bars, thus his nickname Turtle for his slowness...

He seemed more interested in my girlfriend at first, until her nasty attitude (we are no longer friends) chased him to me. I thought it funny why he would ask someone he had just met how much money she made but with my answer he said we could make ends meet. Later in time I realized he was looking for someone to take care of his children and him so he could do as he pleased. He freely admitted he was an alcoholic, almost proud of it, but said it was not a real problem.

I decided I was not that impressed and didn't return his calls. His friend (who later moved into my home with him) talked me into seeing him again and he came all dolled up in this funny shirt, smelling pretty, all dressed up and fancy (his daughter loves this part of our life story, seeing her dad in this light) and he was kind and we danced and talked some more. He played in many bands so we had seen each other through the years and one night I agreed to go to the place, him and the kids were staying, to listen to him play his guitar.

It was the night I met his children and knew what I was going to end up doing. The Next Family 001

Right before Thanksgiving I moved them all in and we slept on mattresses on the floor the first night and I woke with my first and last, so far, ever migraine, I believe from knowing the immensity of what I had just committed to, another whole family to raise that didn't know me from Adam and had serious issues already. My 18 year old daughter already angry with me was moved into my bigger room with her own bathroom but I knew it would put a further wedge in our relationship. But what else could I do?

There have been good years and bad years, the day we were driving to Tahoe to marry so I would have my children’s last name, he was drunk before I got up and I cancelled but a good friend came by, got him up, babysat the children and I drove us to marry, his only saving grace that was the last minute K.D. Lang concert we went to. With an alcoholic it seems they are always making up for something, trying to stay just inside the line of your good graces so you stay confused, wondering are they changing? We had a Justice of the Peace in a small chapel with a built in witnesses and  the husband kept winking at me, he said to calm me down but I think it was to keep me from bolting, always stuck in my mind as a memory...

He worked when a very good friend came and got him but most jobs he lost to drinking on the job or having the shakes so bad and dry heaves that he was sent home but none of this was ever his fault . he would always be sick or the boss was as asshole or every other excuse a person can use to be able to not be responsible for their own actions.

That he loved his children was obvious that he had no idea how to raise children sadly obvious too. He was an abused child who instead of breaking free from the mold chooses to embrace it and use it to fuel his alcoholism.

So many fights, slammed doors, mother bear blocks, he was not getting through me to hurt these children, no matter what it took. I had made the commitment and they were mine.

I realized that my drinking caused us to fight and tired of fighting back when I had too much to drink, of coming home to sip a glass of wine or a brandy seven at the end of a long day to find he had drank it all or had tore my room apart searching for it took any joy I had from drinking away and I gave up...happy for having done so. Not to say I still wouldn't love to sip a glass of wine after a long day but at this time I choose not too.

Now as he is slowly dying my memory is strong, I find one minute I hate him and the next I cry for who he could have been if he had just let us in. His children and I would have guided him to a world of laughter and joy and fun he had no idea existed back in my bedroom, the world we lived in to be real, to speak our minds, say what we needed to say and offer each other comfort.

Each morning I check to see if he is breathing, he is weak, he is having trouble controlling his bodily functions and I offer him nothing.

I do buy his alcohol for him it keeps him off the road, I no longer care if he drinks, haven't for a very long time. Too many nights of picking him up off the floor, of sitting up waiting for the sound of the car in the driveway, calling the local sheriff to see if anyone had been arrested for a DUI. Too many fights, name calling ( him, not me much) the same words when he is mad "fat ass, heifer, ignorant" so many that used to bother me and now I just brush them off knowing they are a small child throwing a tantrum.

Pity I don’t know if pity is the right word, I don’t pity him I hate him for what he has done to our family b u t I know somewhere inside is a man who somehow knew who he was, how he was and went out and found the best mother for his children that he possibly could and in that way gave them more than my dad ever gave his children.

I have to respect that….

I ask myself if he dies in a hospital will I wipe his brow, hold his hand and lie to him telling him what a great dad he was and that I know he tried, not hard enough but that he tried. I wonder will I cry for him, miss him, be able to be there for our children in a way that will help them deal with his death.

 I wonder is it better he dies in his sleep at home, or the big drawn out hospital mess. Will I wipe his ass or the drool from his face I know I won’t, well I don’t think I would. I don’t owe him that, I owe him nothing but the joy of his giving me his children to raise to love, to learn from.

Today is  my 16th year of the day I met the man who became my husband and whose children I have raised as mine, who are mine and I guess I wouldn’t have changed very much about any of it as in life, I guess, you must take the bad to get to the good and the good I have received back is wonderful.   family 4

I have given them all I had to give and I know children rasied by wonderful parents who don't turn out right so I guess life is kind of a crap shoot but I have done all I could do for all 5 of my children and I need to believe it has been enough.

To add to the end of my story and blessings, if not for this man and his children I would not have this beauty, my only grandchild right now who is the love of my life and I her Nanny...

Zena bear and baby 

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I am kind of awash with grief for you after reading this. Looking at those beautiful grown children makes it worthwhile. What would have happened had you not taken them all in? I wish you peace in all this.
This is raw and filled with emotions so deep that reading these words hurts and yet the beauty that is sprinkled throughout this account is a balm to the soul. Darling lady you are an angel for taking in those children and making them your own and by giving them a chance at a mother's love and at life.
All good things to you, and peace and many rewarding years ahead.
Who knows, there may be something to salvage there. I don't understand what blocks people from getting the help they need. The man bought in to a creed that is unable to bend for the humanity in each other. They must ALWAYS be the tough guy who takes no shit and rules his home and family like a king. They are blind on the outside to the misery they bring and still inside them somewhere is a glimmer of that person that could have been. Doubling that sadness is the fact that reason again says run but, you look at them and you love them and just can't do it. Sometimes we get a little lucky and they figure it out before all is destroyed.

This deserves recognition for its sheer emotional power, for its raw strength.
I wish you peace and joy, Lunchlady, and honor you for what you have done. I couldn't have done it. You have a big heart, and you're willing to follow your heart with selflessness.

Sounds kind of odd, but I wish him a quick and painless death. It's all he has left. Your situation reminds me in a strange way of our last year with our dog with cancer--that strange waiting to die world we lived in for a time. It made me understand, truly, that death isn't always a bad thing, and is sometimes a relief.
If you had to do it all again would you do it or pass - knowing if you passed you don't get the kids?

Answer truthfully and then be a t peace.

All the best. / R
I am not on here a lot but I wanted to congratulate you for the EP..
Much love to you Lunchlady and hugs always.
all this reminds me of serial fabricators. its a hideous addiction that spirals out of control until the addict has destroyed themselves and all around them. gitmo is one cure
all this reminds me of serial fabricators. its a hideous addiction that spirals out of control until the addict has destroyed themselves and all around them. gitmo is one cure
what lea said. i hope that someday you find peace.
And congrats on the EP!
You gave us the whole full-course meal here, Terri. The good, the bad, the ugly, the sad, the love, the wisdom. The dessert will be yours, too, when the time is right. You deserve it.
Well done!! You know I know and my heart is with you. What a long road. Most people don't know what it is like to live with an alcoholic and you really opened a window here. Because there is joy too amid the sorrow. Im so glad to read all the details. Well deserved EP!!
I've been reading you for a long time and admiring your spirit and stamina through this personal journey. I believe it's often the journey itself towards our destination we need to be happy, but I see that we also need courage, determination, and belief in ourselves to remain positive. May your future be filled with many rewards to enjoy with your children and grandchildren.
♥R
Life is complicated and wandering. Your story exemplifies this. Not a simple "he done me wrong" tale.
Oh, LL2, I came on to OS today just to comment. This breaks my heart and I truly hope you find the life you are looking for. Congratulations on the cover and EP.
Oh, LL2, I came on to OS today just to comment. This breaks my heart and I truly hope you find the life you are looking for. Congratulations on the cover and EP.
Over the years I have watched family members literally drink themselves to death. It is a helpless feeling and hard to understand the fatalistic bent they have committed themselves to and it’s probably that feeling that makes us just numb and waiting for the inevitable end. In a moment of indifference and resignation one of my cousins spoke of her brother and his lifetime of alcoholism that the only thing she could do for him was plan and pay for his funeral. When he died not even his own children came to his funeral. The bittersweet thing of these last 16 years is the family you rescued and secured a sound emotional future for children that otherwise would not have the love and security you gave because of your unconditional commitment to them. Your journey continues with the next generation of grandchildren. Grands are grand, little thunderbolts of love. You are a good woman.
You know what. . . you have found your way to celebrate life as it's handed to you, and build a life for yourself and your kids, as well. A tough anniversary, but your words describe it as one of dignity and grace.
The honesty here is humbling and inspiring. You give us all a great gift by taking such an unflinching look at your life with your husband.
So sad yet so unselfish and beautifully written. You were obviously sent to this man as an angel for his children.

While I still drink and sometimes too much, I can't fathom how people can carry on drinking when they feel so rough. Such a shame it has spoiled a potentially happy life for you both.
I usually have time to read one post on my lunch break. I chose the right one. You are something special, Ll2. ~r
It has already come to pass. He left you, he left them. They chose you, you chose them. You made some good choices and stuck with it and worked hard to make it happen. Proud of you, LunchLady.
Oh how I understand the pain of wistfully wishing for what could have been, of longing for the person that was there but not there. So much wasted time, so much wasted potential.

But you've written about it so beautifully, so honestly. Stay true to yourself.

This is such raw writing, and just so deserving of an EP. Congratulations. Rated.
This tragic. Your kids are lucky to have you. And your granddaugher is beautiful.
What a life. You really did go through hell to get to the other side!
Congrats on the EP but mostly congrats to you and your generous soul. You are an angel on this earth.
[r] I relate having grown up in an alcoholic family. Everyone suffers! Robin Norwood in Women Who Love Too Much wrote that living with an alcoholic is like being in a car accident EVERY DAY. It is that kind of merciless and insane chronic trauma. It becomes a family "disease". An interventionist once told me it is a roller-coaster that never stops until you do detach, if you choose or are able to. Growing up as a child you can't get off the roller coaster until you are older but by then you are so acclimated to it and confused (fused with) that reality it is the only one that seems familiar and you lose perspective on what is safe in life and often re-enter the "opera mode" and as they say confuse love with pity, and minimize your own fear and anger and your own rightful needs and appreciation of your own inner reality. Dependent or codependent, neither role is a picnic but growing up around alcoholism seems to cast one in one or the other role or maybe both in a lifetime. Recovery can be a roller coaster, too. But the only alternative ride to the destructive one set up by the alcoholism. Best to you and yours. libby
You are an Old Soul LL2 :).

When you can express these sixteen years in such a manner, I believe I'll think that your peace has already begun..

And I'm going to say happy anniversary as well, there are six very good reasons to do so - and the one that was trial by fire and burnished to steel the woman we're reading today.

I wouldn't have missed her story, painful as it was and still is for awhile yet, for .. anything .. in .. the .. world.

You are the near-perfection image of just what 'woman' and 'mother' can mean.

Rated for worthy of the love she has given and has returned.
I finally had some time to get back here and was totally surprised to find I had an EP it is only my second ever and to pick this one I think I like that. I wish I had time to answer back to everyone but time is not my friend right now. I felt this so strong I had to write it and looking back at I see some small mistakes and spelling errors but I guess I will leave it as it stands for my husband and my children.
I thank you all for your so kind words and encouragement and for reading my thoughts on this deep down inside look at my life.
Congrats on the EP. Like I've said before, it will be over soon.
You deserve so much better, LL.

Congrats on the EP.
I think you went into this with your eyes open as best as you could and you were a life saver to those children. I wish you much peace and happiness in the years ahead.
Oh, I forgot, CONGRATULATIONS on your well deserved EP!
I pictured you and your husband almost exactly. Wild. You have an adorable face and your kids and grandchilden(and dog) look excellent.
This was raw and real and beautiful, Lunchlady. Thank you for sharing your life,and providing this sort of beauty.
I hate the destruction alcoholism can wreak.
I'm sorry you lived with it so long, but I also understand the love of children, a man underneath a disease, can take us on strange journeys sometimes...
You are truly amazing, Ll2. This is a post well worth reading.
The little mistakes actually intensify the impact of your writing; make it obvious that it was all poured out in a great gush.
So, so sad...
May the next 16 years be MUCH better!
Wow.....I don't have time to read much on OS anymore, but yours caught my attention. Like the others have commented, such a raw, heartfelt, truthful story. You are an amazing woman and your children are lucky to have you. Congrats on the well deserved EP and cover story.
Your writing is getting really good.
Your kids are really lucky to have you. I am developing great admiration for you. You are such a strong person and come across to me as totally practical, which I like. You see what needs done and you do it. I wish you joy.
As I read all the comments and look closely at my own pictures I think to myself what was I thinking! Not that I am sorry I have done it because I am not but what guided me to jump into such deep water?
I read your kind comments and I think they don't really know me I am not this kind, caring woman everyone sees yet look what I have done day by day by day WE have made it 16 years...
I try to see myself through the eyes of you folks and I like the woman you see me as and I must be her or how could I write these posts?
Thank you everyone for your patience as I repeat myself, with my finding myself and for your support in helping me to get this far in the last two years.
"I guess, you must take the bad to get to the good and the good I have received back is wonderful."

~nodding~ Exactly right!! There was a reason and that reason was the children and a beautiful grand daughter.

Life is an amazing thing, a crapper sometimes, but heck, ya got some good too, so....RATED!!!

(Still, you know, pillow, to his face....what? :D ~hug~)
I love this and what it shows about the reality of love. It isn't always pretty and neat and beautiful. But it has its moments and ultimate rewards. Insightful, thoughtful piece. Quite worthy of the EP. (I rated this earlier but couldn't comment)
Lunchlady 2,

Hoping for all good things for you and your children now and in the future. This is so beautifully written. Congratulations on the EP.
Poignant writing. You've opened a big window to your heart.
Those children won the lottery when their father found you for them. Your all-too-familiar account of life with an alcoholic nails the truth of it. My heart is heavy knowing what you have endured in order to save those kids. There has never been a more deserving EP.

Lezlie
I looked in the dictionary at the words loving, charitable, giving, heart, soul, saint. Everywhere I looked, there was your picture.

"I have done all I could do for all 5 of my children and I need to believe it has been enough." No village could have done more.
What a hard life and yet where would those kids be without you! Great post and congrats on the EP! Woohoo!
A few tears here. I was there once. I'm hoping that there's karma and you get your third act. Soon.
You are a strong, insightful woman and those children are blessed to have you in their lives. I don't hear any self-pity in your voice--you are an inspiration and I admire your bravery and kindness.
I want to add my salute to all the rest here. May we all be so stalwart in carrying the gifts we're given.
Hey! Congrats on the EP!!!
This is a wonderful story of how we all could end up just like you, regretful and yet confirmed in the belief we had done everything possible.
Your brave words are stirring and wholesome, and they say much of what is alcoholic marriage. It's not enough to say you knew what you had gotten into before it was too late. You did what you had to do, and you went all out for those children.
I'm proud of you.
Well done, sistah.
Rated
Thank you all for reading and your comments I peek in when I can during my day and your words give me courage and hope to keep on moving forward. I am very thankful for you all!
Beautiful story of real life, LunchLady. You are a gifted storyteller and I feel your heart in these stories. I wish you nothing but love and strength. You are a wonderful mother. Rated.
You have a beautiful heart.

Much love to you.
"(He) went out and found the best mother for his children that he possibly could and in that way gave them more than my dad ever gave his children." This is very telling. Is it possible somewhere deep inside you were trying to re-write history? What I sincerely hope is that you had the greater influence on your children so that old patterns aren't repeated. Your granddaughter is beautiful and so is your smile.
LL2, You and I have so much in common it is unnerving, actually. I'm a few years ahead of you, but not too many. I can say that in my case, my life got so much better it's a comparative fairy tale. And that, my dear, can happen for you, too. I do believe that if one is a fundamentally decent person who holds the course that good things, at least better things come with that.
Your piece is written in an accessible, folksy sort of way that makes it easy to read. That's a great skill because most of us have had so much therapy and advising by the clueless but well intended that our ability to tell our stories is squashed. You've kept it. Nice work. And lots of love from here to there, to you.
Rated with RRR
I admire your strength and your gratitude, but I can't help but feel angry that you sacrificed so much. Here's hoping you will be able to come fully into your own soon. Godspeed.
This brought tears to me eyes. It is a well-deserved EP. Hang tough, your freedom and new life can't be far off now.