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SEPTEMBER 28, 2009 6:32PM

Didn't You Used To Be A Skin Head Neo-Nazi?

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I’m not your New Age type, but I must admit to believing that things happen for a reason. 

 

For instance, about ten days ago I discovered that my boxing gloves are missing. These gloves are BIG and RED and usually live in the trunk of my car. I have no idea where they disappeared to.

 

I tore apart my car searching for them---which is easy to do since it is a very small car---and searched my condo, which is almost as small as my car. No gloves. I had my husband retrace my efforts; still, no gloves. Ditto, my housekeeper.

 

So, the next day I went to the sporting goods store, but still, no gloves---at least not in my size. Finally, I gave up and ordered a pair from the inter-nets. I await their arrival...

 

which is why I didn’t have any boxing gloves in my car when I went to the market last Monday morning.  

 

Good thing.

 

It had been a great morning. Still riding high from my NY Giant’s sweet win over the Dallas Cowboys the prior evening, I had had a terrific workout: one hour of intense cardio, another of core training, and thirty minutes of weight training. The endorphins were flowing when I pulled into the Gelson’s parking lot. 

 

Then I saw it: the small square table set up at the entrance to the store, the posters of Obama sporting a Hitler mustache hanging off all four sides, the two morons standing behind the table trying to engage shoppers in “discussion.”

 

Let us put aside for a moment that I DO NOT GET THE ANALOGY. Instead, let’s concentrate on those flowing endorphins and the fact that this was the third of these political installations I had stumbled upon in as many days. Over the prior  weekend, I had encountered two in Malibu, both in front of local grocery stores. 

 

You might think that Malibu is an extremely liberal, even progressive, enclave. You would be wrong. Things to keep in mind about Malibu: (1) it is the home of the overtly religious and conservative Pepperdine University, whose dean of law is none other than Ken Starr; (2) not all the money in this town belongs to the entertainment types; and (3) even among the entertainment types, you find gun-waving, heehawing conservatives.

 

Still, I was shocked to see the number of people approaching the tables and engaging the protesters in friendly chit-chat, nodding in agreement. It was the day before Rosh Hoshona, and I wondered where was the anger and push back from Malibu’s large Jewish population at this trivializing of the Holocaust’s architect.

 

In both instances, I determined not to continue with my planned grocery shopping (which made for some pretty creative dinners, but that’s another story). Instead, I drove a few slow loops past the poster tables, my arm extended out the open sunroof, my middle finger doing the talking.

 

Childish, I know. Maybe even dangerous. 

 

Both incidents --- including my reactions---haunted me all weekend.

 

So, on Monday morning, when I encountered my third “Obama as Hitler” protest, it hit an already frazzled nerve.

 

Let me explain a little about the market I was shopping at that day.

 

Gelson’s is a fairly high-end chain which I have shopped at from the day I arrived in California. Back in the late 1970’s the chain went under the name Mayfair, and I shopped at its location in Los Feliz. Then we moved to Newport Beach, and I shopped the Gelson’s there. Then we moved to Studio City, and I shopped the Gelson’s there. Then Encino. Then Pacific Palisades. Then Calabasas. Now, living in Malibu, I shop the   Westlake store. 

 

Almost every day.

 

Get the picture? I’m a really, really good customer, and I consider it my market in that irrational way I sometimes get.

 

So, seeing the poster/protesters in Gelson’s parking lot was akin to seeing them in my own driveway. As my temper shot from zero to sixty in under five seconds, I thought of aiming my car straight at their flimsy folding table and accidently knocking it and the morons manning it to the ground. 

 

Instead, I screeched my car into a parking space, jumped out, grabbed my environmentally friendly tote bags and marched towards the table. 

 

“Despicable,” I shouted, still several feet away from the table. “Absolutely despicable.”

 

The morons behind the table stared at me, a look of surprise on their otherwise dumb faces.

 

“I don’t imagine you understand the meaning of the word despicable,” I continued, “but trust me, it isn’t a compliment.”

 

More surprised dumb looks in response.

 

“Too bad it’s not true.” I spit the words out between clenched teeth, wanting to scream, THE ANALOGY DOESN’T EVEN MAKE SENSE, but I held little hope for their knowing the definition of the word “analogy.” Then I let fly the worst invective...

 

”Too bad it isn’t true, because if it were, maybe first trains would take away the likes of you.”

 

With that admittedly hideous remark, I stormed into the store in a blind rage, grabbed the three items I needed (a package of chicken breasts, blueberries, and 3 grapefruit) and made my way to the cashiers. 

 

Truly, I am in this store almost daily. (It is a problem that my entire family suffers: a congenital inability to plan more than one meal at a time.) Therefore, I know these checkers in a how are you? how’s the family? how’s the dog? how’s your mom’s hip replacement? sort of way. So, the woman scanning my groceries knew exactly where I was headed with my rather pointed inquiry: “Isn’t this private property?”  

 

She looked at me, nodded her head towards the main entrance and said, “Isn’t that disgusting?”

 

Well, that certainly is one word for it.

 

We were off and running from there. Soon a chorus  of “disgusting,” “reprehensible,” “should be ashamed” (and, my favorite) “it doesn’t even make sense” was being sung up and down the check out stations. 

 

The manager rushed over, offering apologies and thrusting a letter from the president of the chain into my hands, which stated that Gelson’s personnel would make these demonstrators go away if they could, but they can’t. Not even the police, should they be so inclined, can make these morons disburse. In a split decision in 2007 the California Supreme Court upheld the rights of demonstrators (regardless of how weak their analogies) to gather in any area open to the general public, even if that area is private property and the owners object. 

 

I know. I know. Constitutional rights, first amendment, right to gather, blah, blah, blah. 

 

Let’s face it: I’d be lying if I didn’t say that I’d be all for that dither if I agreed with the protesters. 

 

OR, if the protests made some sense, offered up a legitimate argument, did more than just spew hate.

 

Still furious, I gathered my meager---but way too costly---purchases, and headed towards the exit---the same door I had recently entered. Stepping outside, I glared at the two nitwits at the poster table.

 

As one of the guys started to sarcastically offer up “have a nice day” (the use of said phrase being reason enough to wish him ill) I raised my hand to cut him off.

 

“Don’t I know you?” I asked. “Didn’t I see you before, when you used to be a skin head, neo-Nazi? That was you, wasn’t it? Or maybe I’m confused and it was somebody just like you.”

 

Based on the blank look on his face (think soft, doughy, senseless) I couldn’t count on his understanding my insult (let alone grasp the implied hypocrisy). So to be sure he didn’t think I was trying for polite conversation, I tossed an “eat shit and die” over my shoulder as I walked away.

 

Which brings me back to the boxing gloves. As I loaded the groceries into my trunk, I found myself wishing for my gloves. In a vision worthy of a canonization, I saw myself strapping on my gloves, walking back to the table, getting on my tippy toes, and socking the dumbshit right in the nose.

 

Such is the conflagration cause by the fanning of pure hatred.
 
 
 
 
  
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One week later, my blood still boils.
Oh yeah, I can just picture you in those red gloves. I also can picture you with the hand thrust through your sunroof...in a one-fingered salute...I'm tempted myself these days when I come upom such lunacy, no matter what side of the fence they are on.

I'm with you...and if they think this appeals to women, who are the biggest majority ...they are in for a big surprise.

Well done my dear...and frankly we DO give a....
I love it when you get all feisty and New Jersey on us. But I have one question. You lost your boxing gloves AND your housekeeper in the same week? ;)
I love you. (I'm glad you like me too--I can guarantee that you would be able to kick my ass in a nanosecond--though that's not saying much really since I'm, you know, a bit sedentary.)

Seriously, I wonder what these self lobotomized individuals hoped to accomplish?
I would have been cheering you on. Actually, I would have been wearing one glove and letting you wear the other. At least in my cartoon fantasy of teaching a rightwing Dumb**** some history at the end of a boxing glove.

Either that, or going to stage a counter demonstration in front of their little table with all the people in that checking line. At least, all of the people in that line going to rant at them at once and convince them, however unconstitutionally, that setting up their little hate booth in front of that store was a seriously bad idea.
Hear, hear!!!

You tell 'em. The assholes.

Thanks for giving voice to your disgust.
Unbelievable. I would have the same reaction as you.
I need to go get some boxing gloves...
Good for you for the response, mah. I usually just seethe silently. Oh, the things I wish I could say, but I'm a reporter in a small town. I don't get to have political opinions outside the safety of my newsroom or my own home.
Maybe the morons are like the fundamentalist crew-- they think that if they recite John 4:16 at you, you'll be floored and "saved" immediately. Maybe they think their very presence will have an effect on passers-by. Obviously it did for you, m. ah-- you became enraged at their ignorance!
Thank you all for stopping by. You should know---or, maybe that is *I hope* you know---I'm not proud of my reaction. That is part of what has me still ruminating on this, one week later. (That, and the fact that I'm a Capricorn, and can't let go of anything---but I digress.)

Hatred fuels hatred---and irrational action. That's the excuse the assassin is going to hide behind.
Oh, we wouldn't kill them. In the words of Nichole Hollander's Sylvia, "we'd just bend 'em real bad."
I am not sure if nobody cares where I am or if I never get out but here is the only place I see this. It has to be my area. Maybe it is just the tweakers outnumber the lunatics here. I think you did a great thing and shouldn't be bothered by it. Now if you had punched one of them....It would have felt good but it would have been wrong. RIGHT but wrong.
I'm surprised these morons don't have him wearing a pointy white hat.
Way to go, m.a.h. Although you're not proud of your reaction, it could have been worse, and if we're not aware of how something provokes us, we're more likely to snap without thinking. This way, you can plan for the next confrontation . . .
I ran into one of these morons outside the post office in La Canada today. I wanted to deck him when he asked me if I could spare a few minutes. I told him to go fuck himself and left. It seems to me it should be a federal offense to put up any kind of booth outside of a post office.
And, I should say, that my disgust was compounded by the fact that the idiot manning the desk was African American. It just seemed to blatantly wrong to see an African American man promoting the image of Obama as Hitler.
Malibu? I don't think Ken Starr lives in Malibu. He's a Westlake (otherwise known as Republican cesspool) man for sure. I'm just down the road in SM and I never see or hear about that kind of stuff. And I drive down PCH a lot. I can't imagine someone hasn't beaten these guys up with a surfboard yet.
Okay. Just so I have this straight. Freedom of speech is only allowed if said speaker agrees with YOU. But free speech is fine when it comes to YOU flipping the bird at will, yelling your sweet, harmless invectives at what YOU label as morons who are to, and I quote, "Eat shit and die." How does one argue with THAT logic?
Good for you. This was such an entertaining post, I wish I had been there. You and I are in total agreement: Weak analogy means no kiosk for you in the parking lot.
Well, its hard to argue with the logic of smashing the bjeezus out of these ignorant people, but the part of this I just dont get is the California Supremes giving them rights to the private property of others??? Thats something significant to get worked up about.
rated-for your oh-so-gentle approach to the subject of the lunatic fringe.
wind in my wings,

Bingo! You captured my stand perfectly. Of course, as I stated in the original essay, I'm all for freedom of speech if it makes sense, makes a point, and is something beyond hate spewing--even if it doesn't agree with me.

But allusions to Hitler. Yeah, that is "eat shit and die" material.

So glad you quoted accurately, by the way.
Reading this is making my blood boil, I understand your rage, and your secret desire to run them over with your car.

I don't understand how they can legally do this on the market's property? Maybe the store could "relocate" their recycling bins to where they've set up camp? It's just so wrong.
"Such is the conflagration cause by the fanning of pure hatred." Even when you are furious, your writing is excellent and the message, a clear one (well, not for the protesters at the car-park....) I know exactly what you mean, I´ve found myself addressing some local skin-heads in the same way...
Rated and congrats.
Kisses,
Marcela
You scared me for a minute, I shop at Gelson's as well. I though as I started reading that Gelson's supported this. FEW! I can only imagine your rage, I wish that I saw you in the parking lot that day, with my kick boxing and your boxing we could have taken them down. I am not a violent person by no means I am about peace. Im sorry that you had that encounter. I think that you were spot on with the skin head/nazi comment. It is sad that their ignorance would prohibit them from comprehending. Peace.
Is it illegal to spit on someone? Or maybe toss dirty diapers at them?
hey angry one. sympathize, but somehow in all that, you forgot to explain why you disagree & what your POV on the political issue at hand is....
vzn,

I'd love nothing more than to explain my counter point to the "Obama as Hitler" position---except I have no freaking idea what it is these people are trying to say.

Is it that the Nazi party originated as a "Socialist" party? That's a bit thin.

Is it that the Nazi party aggressively invaded sovereign countries? Well, if so, we are late on that by one administration.

Is it that Nazi party built concentration camps and annihilated 6,000,000 people? Well, yeah, I guess I can see the connection there. WTF?

Like I said in the essay, I do not get the analogy---so I can't dispute it---because I try not to deal in "the crazy."

This is what I think. I think it is FINE, more than fine--- in fact, I think it positively American to disagree with the president. I think comparing any US President to Hitler is nothing more than fanning a flame that will burn out of control.

I think that Wanted Posters calling JFK a socialist---stating he was wanted for "treason" ----"dead or alive" appearing in Dallas the week he visited contributed to that sick fuck's (Oswald's) actions.

I think that what happened in Dallas snuck up on us.

I think what is happening now is blatant --- a call to arms---a call to murder. And how I feel about this administration, its policies, its plans, have little baring on my disgust, anger, and fear at seeing this sort of hate mongering.
Remind me never to get on your bad side. (Nice post!)
You don't get the connection? How's your history? Which other country used false flag tactics to occupy another country, which other country had "camps", 800 at last count, which other country stripped the rights of the people, under the guise of "security". Which other country locked up it's citizens that didn't agree with it's policy's, which other country's leaders gave themselves powers, that they never should have had, which other country tortured prisoners. Which other country mobilized it's army against protesters, which other country showed no remorse for the millions of innocent civilian death's, which other country invaded another, while occupying yet another, which other country had aspirations to rule the world, which other country's people didn't do anything to stop the government from mounting an all out assault on innocent civilians ? Beginning to see a pattern?
You Da Man! er, I mean You Da Woman! Good for you.
What you need are the services of a schlemiel. A big, fat, clumsy, can't quite keep his balance and walk three steps, oaf. Or someone who could pull that off, convincingly. "oops, I'm so sorry about your table, must have caught the table leg under my foot or something, here, let me put it upright again... then falls into it. Or the oaf is carrying a couple of fresh boston cream pies... Or something else.
Yes, m.a.h. I love the honesty here. And this, “Hatred fuels hatred---and irrational action. That's the excuse the assassin is going to hide behind.”

It’s feeling so incredibly challenging to find some other positive or constructive way to meet crap like this. Sometimes I think it’s a good thing all this creepy stuff is coming out into the light of day… that somehow we’re seeing a process much like a psychological process of facing our shadow demons, putting light on them, so a transformation can occur. But jeeeezus, it’s hard to be with on such a large scale and be patient, isn’t it?

@joebanana – No, I don’t get the connection either. The connection these people are making is personal, to President Obama. Why this personalized blame on him? How's YOUR history? Do you really think those things you listed only just started occurring in America this year, and that Obama is responsible for them? Granted, those things happened and are still active, but if you think this is the connection, your lines are extremely defective.
"Not even the police, should they be so inclined, can make these morons disburse. In a split decision in 2007 the California Supreme Court upheld the rights of demonstrators (regardless of how weak their analogies) to gather in any area open to the general public, even if that area is private property and the owners object. "

You know, I'm all for this law, but it should require a permit. At least they couldn't protest without a fee.

I'm surprised there isn't more violence about this sort of thing. I live in a very RED area and I haven't seen anything like this around here. Haven't even seen anything in the paper about anything like this. At least not locally. It's a good thing, too. I would likely need a bail bonds man.

These lowlifes think they are do some great American duty when if fact they are really the Un-American Americans. Fuck 'em.
joe banana said:
You don't get the connection? How's your history? Which other country used false flag tactics to occupy another country, which other country had "camps", 800 at last count, which other country stripped the rights of the people, under the guise of "security". Which other country locked up it's citizens that didn't agree with it's policy's, which other country's leaders gave themselves powers, that they never should have had, which other country tortured prisoners. Which other country mobilized it's army against protesters, which other country showed no remorse for the millions of innocent civilian death's, which other country invaded another, while occupying yet another, which other country had aspirations to rule the world, which other country's people didn't do anything to stop the government from mounting an all out assault on innocent civilians ? Beginning to see a pattern?


Uh, yeah. Actually, I do.


You just described 8 long years under the Bush/Cheney administration.

Care to try again?
Thanks all for the great comments---especially those who responded to Joe Banana. I read his comment late last night, and I didn't know how to answer, except by saying: "Well, we voted the people responsible for most of that mess out of the White House."

As much as I disliked Bush---and I really, really did (and Cheney scared me almost beyond reason) I would never have compared them to Hitler.

It is true that I once said that Bush was Caligula without the sex and Nero without the fiddle---but see how that analogy is different? It is witty (if I must say so myself) and pointed, but how many people become "unhinged" over reference to Caligula and Nero?

Hitler comparisons should be off limit. Period.
I say fuck the "hatred breeds hatred" bullshit...because I fucking despise these fucking scumbags with every ounce of hatred I can muster.

Wow...that felt good!

Keep on truckin', Sis. I already know about keeping on your good side...or at least, not accidentally moving onto the "bad" side.

As you know, I work in the most conservative environment on the planet...and I put up with versions of this mindset all the time. My co-workers are learning to just avoid me with their remarks for the time being.
Excellent post. After seeing three of these in three days anyone who actually thinks would react the same as you did. I believe these people do not think for themselves they are just repeating what they hear from Rush and Fox news.

Joebanana is not the first person I've heard who tries to blame the Obama administration for things that clearly were the responsibility of the Bush/Cheney administration.
It's funny. One of the things that strike me about the comments is that many are saying that they haven't seen this in their towns/cities/etc. Yet here, in So. CA, I saw it three times in as many days.

These are very Jewish communities---and this was at the start of the Jewish holidays. Is the analogy to Hitler supposed to endear the Jews to anti-Obama sentiment? Really?

If any one is falling for that, they are just dumb. I mean it when I say that I suspect this group is the same swastika painting crowd when the philosophy of the Nazis works in their white supremacy favor.
Streamfortyseven wrote Or the oaf is carrying a couple of fresh boston cream pies... Or something else.

I think you're onto something with the pie idea, here. (Even if I'm thinking more along the lines of mud than Boston Cream). Maybe we need a brigade of clowns armed with pies. Clumsy clowns armed with pies, no less. "Gosh your table is a mess, as is your Obama poster! And both of your suits. We're SO sorry we all tripped at the same moment!"

Gotta admit, it would be fun while it lasted, and not even the nut jobs would take permanent harm from it. =o)
m.a.h.: I will go to sleep laughing tonight visualizing you in your card speeding around the parking lot with your middle finger sticking out of the sunroof. Stop with the guilt! I'm glad you yelled at them. Probably didn't change a thing for them, but you never know. And it sounds like it helped you to get that out of your system. Oh, I would have loved to be in that car with you...but that would have been big time trouble. Another great post...your writing is so wonderful, descriptive and clear.
I don't know what I would do if I continued to encounter such ignorance and hatred. I think you are wonderful for not decking each and every one of them. It's so shocking the stupidity and evil we have to put up with. Our country is indeed in a deep deep crisis.
What I meant was, the ball is in Obama's court now. His campaign promise keeping record, isn't the "change", many were expecting. Secretly sending more than double the requested troops to Afghanistan, isn't my idea of "a transparent government". Giving his wall street buddies hundreds of billions of inflation pact bailout money, sure did "something" to the economy, now the oil producing countries we buy oil from, won't deal in "dollars", China, and Russia are working on plans to eliminate the dollar as the world currency. He really hasn't done anything to positively effect anything in the US, but sure has done a fine job of continuing the previous administration's policies, and lack of truth.