SEPTEMBER 10, 2008 3:09PM

I don't want to die.

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Let me cut to the chase: my law firm is in a building connected to Rockefeller Center, here in midtown Manhattan.

Often, when I navigate the subterranean caverns of this sprawling complex, I think to myself that this is a really perfect terrorist target.
Many people would die from a bomb, a nerve agent attack, or even just the ensuing stampede.

We have short memories, but here's a fun throwback: Dubya had no foreign policy experience in 2000 when he ran for president. And then in 2001, we had 9/11. If you read the first 25 pages of Jane Mayer's The Dark Side, it becomes very clear that the Bush administration knew very well that the system was "blinking red," but no one cared enough to do something about it.

I don't want to die in a terrorist attack, y'all. I don't want to be one of the names on a memorial for victims of a bombing because McCain/Palin have no idea or interest as to what is happening on the national security front.

This very real possibility of death makes this election extremely personal.  And the complete lack of national issue experience from Sarah Palin is tremendously frightening to me, on a gut level.

I trust Barack Obama to care about people like me, who are not fearing a terrorist attack at a shopping mall in Kansas City, but work in midtown Manhattan. I trust he will take this job very seriously, because I trust that beyond the requisite personal ambition, he has no other interest in this job but to be a great president. 

What a contrast this is from George W. Bush. It is now apparent to anyone paying attention that Dubya's only interest was to serve his energy masters. I'm dead-serious. Everything else is a sideshow, or indirectly motivated by this overraching goal. Consessions to the Christian right? Merely a way to win their votes to put the Energy Party in power.

Dubya never cared about protecting America, or my life, or the lives of the American soldiers in Iraq, or really anyone else, except the oil industry. 

And McCain/Palin are heirs to this legacy, and this legacy only, make no mistake. "Country First"? Try again. "Oil first, always" is more like it.

Whatever their other credentials, no one becomes nominated for president by the Energy Party if they are not in Big Oil's pocket. The rest is just strategery to get elected to fulfill the Energy Party's platform.

McCain and Palin don't care about protecting me. If McCain cared, he wouldn't be hankering to attack Iran, he would know the difference between Sunni and Shia, and he wouldn't have picked zero-experience Sarah Palin as trustee for my life in case he dies. And if Sarah Palin really cared about this country, she would have said "No" to McCain's crazy offer, just like I would say "No" to an offer to become a law firm partner, since I have no experience in that field. 

So, in short, if you want your dear old Madame Bitch to live through the next 4 years, vote Obama.

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The same thing. One doesn't take away from the other. The bottom line is: we need Obama to win.
While I heartily agree with the concerns you've eloquently raised in your post, especially as a resident of Midtown Manhattan, the anxiety that has sprung up has prevented me from getting past the fourth paragraph. I'm now heading over to Youtube to find videos of cuddling puppies to reverse the damage.
The most depressing thing about Open Salon and other liberal echo chambers is that I find myself agreeing with just about everything written, but it doesn't mean a damn thing. Most Americans haven't thought any more deeply about foreign policy than Bush did or Palin has ... but they sure do love her glasses. And that cute Alaska accent. And the way she stood up to that Bridge to Nowhere ... la la la, I don't hear you talking about how she really supported it, la la la, I loooove Sarah Palin, she's got problems just like me. And did you see her in US Magazine? Luuuv, it. The liberal media need to leave that woman alone. And Barack Obama needs to apologize for calling her a pig. She's not a pig, she's a pit bull. And so what if pit bulls are uglier than pigs and probably dirtier too. And any candidate that Heart likes must be good ... lalala ... I don't hear you saying that Heart doesn't like her playing Barracuda at rallies ... lalala. We need a real Christian in the White House, not a Muslim follower of Rev. Wright ... and how dare you bring up what her pastor said. He's a good Christian man who hates foreigners and Jews, not Americans, like that Rev. Wrong, who Obama still probably prays to Allah with every day. La la la ... I can't wait for election day.
Stellaa, As per your suggestion, I've added cats to my queue in symbolic protest to a candidate that scares the shit out of me. On a side note, despite my allergies, I like cats, but would need the barrier of a full body condom in order to show my adoration without developing a rash or hives. On a further side note, I shudder at how the previous sentence could be terribly misunderstood.
I've been to NYC a bunch of times since 9/11. Every time I'm there, I'm impressed by the bravery and courage of New Yorkers. You guys are a tough bunch. I don't want you to die either.

Isn't it ironic that so many Americans feel that voting for McCain will be safer for YOU...when, IMHO, the opposite will be true.
Dear Madame,

I sensed actual fear, not just anger in your post.

I think you might be expressing some PTSS from living in NY since 9/11.

Make sure you talk to someone who cares for you about it. Out loud. It helps.

I almost wish they would just stop with the memorials because I think it freaks people out.

I always fear that the memorials draw more interest to do it again on the same day.

There, I said it out loud. (the best way to defeat anxiety is to say it out loud and notice that the world is still turning) But it won't happen.

It is like waiting for a hurricane, though. You know intellectually that it is going to come and go, you've been through 43 or so of them, but you still freak out if you watch the weather channel.

Take the day off as a personal day. Don't go to the place that makes you anxious. Work extra hard from home or anywhere else. Nothing wrong with being kind to yourself when things are freaking you out. Anybody that doesn't underrstand, f' 'em.

Feel better and take care of yourself.

sincerely,
Elizabeth
I hesitate to point this out but planning for the 9/11 attacks started under Clinton. Plus, the Clinton administration had a chance to nab bin Laden in Sudan and didn't do it. The deck was partially stacked before Bush even got in office.

But, in the spirit of we are all Americans, why don't blame the terrorists for the terror instead of blaming ourselves.
McGarrett50, although the planning did start under clinton, if you would bother to inform yourself of the situation, you'd see that the system was very much blinking red and no one cared. I don't want to be a casualty of Big Oil's plans.
Well, I'm sure the people blown up in the embassies in Africa on Clinton's watch feel better knowing that his ignoring of the risk wasn't for big oil.
I don't know if he ignored the risk -- do you? i've pointed to my source for my conclusions, what's yours?
Look, I've never heard of Jane Mayer and I am not going to spend money just so I can read 25 pages of it to check your source which in the end would require me to check her source, etc. etc.

I think I've gotten the point of your post. It's not about fear of terrorism; it's about hating Bush. You communicated. I understood. Transaction successful.
You're not in much danger of dying from a terrorist attack. 9/11 was seven years ago, killed a tiny percentage of our population and we haven't had an attack since. I think we need to worry more about what we are doing to other people caught in the collateral damage of our collective terror.
Look, I've never heard of Jane Mayer

That's unfortunate. She's a pretty famous investigative writer for the New Yorker. Here's the book, the Fresh Air interview.

and I am not going to spend money just so I can read 25 pages of it to check your source which in the end would require me to check her source, etc. etc.

I think I've gotten the point of your post. It's not about fear of terrorism; it's about hating Bush. You communicated. I understood. Transaction successful.

How dare you, you fuckface. You live in New York? You work in Manhattan? Chimpy here failed to protect my fellow financial industry employees that keep this whole fucking boat afloat for the rest of you, and I'll be damned if I don't do everything in my power to prevent the same happening to me.

I didn't choose this career so i can die in an inferno in my office or choke to death in the subway from some biological agent. It's clear to any thinking mofo that Dubya couldn't give two shits about me and my safety, and 9/11 is a case in point.

Now, if you'll excuse me, I have my very hide to protect, whereas all you have is abstract bullshit ideas that will never hit home to where you live and your family. People like you, you don't mind fucking up our whole national security apparatus, and having folks like me die, because your life will never be at stake. It's really quite immoral, what you're doing. Maybe you should listen to us, those in the line of fire.
"Chimpy here failed to protect my fellow financial industry employees that keep this whole fucking boat afloat for the rest of you, and I'll be damned if I don't do everything in my power to prevent the same happening to me." M Bitch

Not to defend Chimpy are you talking about the same financial guys who have created the financial crisis we are now facing in our markets? The ones encouraged by the Republican deregulation of the banking and financial industries?
Not to defend Chimpy are you talking about the same financial guys who have created the financial crisis we are now facing in our markets? The ones encouraged by the Republican deregulation of the banking and financial industries?

Well, my dear, I'm one of them, and I vote Dem, and I am not a Republican deregulating jerk. And many of them are not like that.

However, even if I were a Republican deregulating jerk, I don't think that means I deserve to die in a terrorist-created inferno, and I don't see why you would think that either.
"However, even if I were a Republican deregulating jerk, I don't think that means I deserve to die in a terrorist-created inferno, and I don't see why you would think that either. " Mbitch

Putting words in my mouth Miss Bitch? Like pigs wearing lipstick?
Get over your fear, whether Republican or Democrat its very unlikely you will get killed by terrorists in any statistical sense. Or, we could build a big police state to protect you. You could sacrifice freedom for security. That would be nice.
Get over your fear, whether Republican or Democrat its very unlikely you will get killed by terrorists in any statistical sense.

You don't have to give a fuck, moron, do you? No one's gonna come get you in Cheyenne. You have no idea what you're talking about, so maybe you should listen to people who do know what they're talking about, like me. Statistically speaking, I have a much higher chance of dying of terrorism than me, so maybe you should stfu.

And what other purpose was there to your response except to imply that Chimpy failed to protect from terrorism the same financial geniuses that engineered our current crisis, and somehow that crisis-mongering justified or mitigated their untimely grisly deaths? Pretty barbaric, if you ask me.
"Statistically speaking, I have a much higher chance of dying of terrorism than me." Bitch

What? You're ranting. Not making any sense. BTW, I don't live in Cheyenne as if that matters. Poor scared little bitch. The world's a scary place isn't it?
"Statistically speaking, I have a much higher chance of dying of terrorism than me." Bitch

What? You're ranting. Not making any sense.


You know what i meant, but since you're such a stickler, i'll amend: statistically speaking, I have a much higher chance of dying of terrorism than you do.

BTW, I don't live in Cheyenne as if that matters.

i've been to your state, incidentally, to that yuppie playground. If you don't live in Cheyenne, then your chances of dying from terrorism are EVEN SMALLER.

Poor scared little bitch. The world's a scary place isn't it?

What a nasty fuck you are.
I'm not as nasty as you you old harridan. My point was we haven't had much terrorism and it doesn't justify so much fear that we need a war on it. You're whacked, aren't you. Also, I live on the east coast in a big city with a big naval base so I am as exposed as you are. Little bitchy prima donna.
Note to self: Don't challenge or dismiss Madam B's sources. She's more than willing to lay all down for you until you're completely immersed and drowning.

Damned lawyers...
Oh please, I'm half your age, if you're lucky, probably less. You live in a big east coast city? How many terror attacks has your city had? Cuz we've had more than one, you know. It happens, and if McCain wins, it's gonna happen even more. What's so hard to understand, son? If you really do live in a big east coast city, then it's in your interest to vote Obama, too. Very simple.
I am voting for Obama for different reasons than you. Fear of the unknown is not one of them. Your weakness and lack of coherent argument make me sick.

And no, the financial service industry is not doing a good job of keeping the boat afloat for the rest of us. Maybe our next president can reach in a jerk a knot in its tail.
More on Madam B's point, it continuously amazes me how irrationally freaked out small town and suburbanites in middle America are of terrorism.

I lived in DC on 9/11 and had a little fear of terrorism afterwards. I would like to think that was a rational fear.

Then I moved to Minnesota. Some people here worried about going to the Mall of America because the terrorists might strike it. I guess... maybe... but probably not during the two hours on the particular Saturday you're going. Then I heard about other "targets" nearby: the commuter rail line from the airport to downtown Minneapolis, the suburban Rosedale Mall, the stadium during a Vikings game. Nevermind if terrorists were really going to target an NFL game that they would probably find more attractive targets than a regular season Minnesota Vikings game.

While what Black Bart says about the statistical chances of being killed by terrorists is true, it's a damn easy thing for someone not in Manhattan to say and is of little comfort to those near bona fide terrorist targets.
Your weakness and lack of coherent argument make me sick.

Weakness? Do you mean admitting the fear of dying? Or weakness in argument? I don't see a weakness in argument.

As for coherence, i think it's a relatively simple argument. where's the coherence gap?
Living in New York isn't the only unsafe place.

On one side of me is the NC State Port and fuel repository. We have a phosphorus plant and a deep sea cargo unloading 5 miles from my house.

On the other side of the port is the troop load out staging area for Fort brag and Cherry Point Naval Air Base.

I think the people at the mall maybe should settle down.

But for a year after 9/11, whenever the base would send those black hawks over my house on the way to the carrier loading, I freaked out.

And I don't even have that much to fear. Bart seems to be expressing some social disorder indicated by his lack of compassion for actual fear and is dismissing real concerns in his efforts to justify his stance that the war is unnecessary.

Which is a weird thing to argue, since I don't hear anyone hear FOR the war.

I think your argument that warmongers are not what we need now is a very good one. It is always a good argument. McCain is ashamed of being in a lost war. he wants to be in charge of one where we win and he can make his daddy the admiral proud, because his war hero status is because of self-flaggellation for giving a statement when he was first captured. He said he would stay and be the last to go home because he was ashamed of breaking. He didn't have to be there for all those years. I am not sure that I admire that neurotic behavior.

I admire self-preservation and self-reliance, which New Yorkers have in spades.
Wow, whoa, please chill, everyone. I think everyone commenting here is essentially on the same side, no? Bart, I don't believe that rejection of a fear-and-war-mongering mode of government and fear of terrorism are mutually exclusive. The Bush Administration has bolloxed everything up so thoroughly that they have simultaneously created a bullshit police-state and fostered an unprecedented groundswell of anti-American sentiment in the world; they are solidifying their control by pretending to care about our security.
WOW...I agree with Marco, we need to chill...We shoul all be scared for various reasons just now, and I think overall most of us are. We still have to function, however. I think most minds are already made up, so what else can be done? We need to try to appeal to those that are not sure what to do with their vote. No die-hards on either side are likely to shift this late in the game...
The Bush Administration is blocking these upgrades on behalf of its cronies. But the one review board can stop the sellout.

The ICC is set to vote on these recommendations next Thursday, September 18th. The recommendations were drawn from a comprehensive post-9/11 report by the National Institute of Standards and Technology. The purpose of the report was to improve our safety code to protect buildings and save lives in case of another attack. Sounds like a no-brainer, right?

Not for the Bush administration. On September 8th, the New York Times reported that the General Services Administration — a federal agency that manages property for the government — is opposing the new safety standards. That's right: an agency of the Bush administration is using your tax dollars to fight against the very standards that could have saved lives on 9/11. Why? To help line the pockets of super-rich landlords and appease the real estate lobby.

This far exceeds unreasonable. The group of building owners is even refusing to put glow-in-the-dark markings in stairwells to help people evacuate safely. Why save lives when you can cut corners instead?
I don't live in NYC and I would never judge anyone's fear, rational or irrational. Every time I visit the City, I'm impressed with the resolve and reserve of so many of the city dwellers. My daughter is going to college in Boston. I worry for her. My daughter who goes to college in Santa Barbara, I don't. Call me irrational...but this is how I feel.
I believe what I was saying, since I said it, was that the only thing to fear is fear itself. The analogy to warmongering based on fear is threat of terrorism is not worthy of much fear at this time. As Skeptic Turtle said they aren't likely to target a Vikings game or Manhatten. At least not the same way.

I am just tired of fear talk. The world is a dangerous place and if living in NYC scares you, then move to Cheyenne. Don't buy into the fear that is constantly used by this administration to justify everything.
It amazes me that the point expressed in this really clear, well written piece---can be argued.

I do "get" the concept of the echo chamber. But I wonder if we shouldn't look beyond that and see the value in clear expression of a great, real story. What does that mean? It means that maybe if we learn how to tell a compelling story--- the strength of that story will bust out the sides of the echo chamber and land where they can do some good.

Of course if anybody reads this little addendum to this string---there's always a chance they will argue it. So here's a thought: go tell your story. It's harder than it looks!

Nice job Madame.
I worked there in 2004. Doesn't Fox actually tape a morning show on the ground floor of one of those buildings? I remember seeing it when I smoked.